Post: #1

The purpose of this topic is to explore specific sub-category of type of game that are more favorable to meet women and less know to the common public.

Background
I'm speaking for someone who live in Paris (for now) and really think french girls are way overrated. You should check my post about them : /thread-20754...pid1362408

They are so entitled and so average, that it's starting to be a challenge to find a decent location to sarge. During the night, it's usually an average girl surrounded by 3-4 guys and very few really hot in total. Cold approaches are doable, but you get insane shit test.
Yes I'm a bit picky but not so much as :

• My wing agrees
• I was in Finland and it was a whole different stories : there was pack of hot girls, I flirted with almost each of them and at the end I had real good choice of who to commit to
• A ukrainian girl my wing banged told him that in ukraine, girl had to take care and look pretty because of the competition. Here she has such a large choice of decent guys that it's Dick paradise for her
  

I'm more sick of that each day and way diminish my motivation to go out. Even yesterday, we saw this magazine cover :

(it says "pleasure to give - 5 crazy stories to spice your summer". Yes, by all means, it seems the dog sumissive suit is wore by a guy. Outrageous!)

So my question for you guys is what kind of events/places should I go sarging to find better odds? I know it's stupid to expect to find a place here with both hot and receptive girls, so let's settle for at least receptive girls.
So far the only events I found to have such a thing here are couchsurfing events : everyone is cool and girls are normally receptive. The quality is quite medium, but for here it's a good start and no matter what we have fun. Other specific ideas? Keep in mind that due to my job, it's mostly for game during end of afternoon and evening.
I thought about daygame, but it's like a job for me, I don't really have fun and online has bad quality girls.

Post: #2

(08-21-2016 03:06 PM)James Bond Next level Wrote:  I thought about daygame, but it's like a job for me, I don't really have fun

"Daygame" is normal life, where you will find and interact with most people. Refusing to approach and talk to girls you encounter throughout a normal day is throwing away the biggest pool of possible girls- and usually better girls.

Only wanting to pursue girls at special events and entertainment venues is severely limiting.

Post: #3

I know but daygame feel like work : 100% focus on pulling, nothing else. If it is spontaneous okay, but going out especially for it, well. Other ideas?

Post: #4

DMing female drivers on Waze?

You asked for "outside the box"...

Post: #5

(08-22-2016 01:29 PM)James Bond Next level Wrote:  I know but daygame feel like work : 100% focus on pulling, nothing else. If it is spontaneous okay, but going out especially for it, well. Other ideas?

If the girls in your country are that bad, it sounds like theres no real alternative other than leaving your country, or to game foreigners.

When you go out in the day, take the train etc, pay attention to what language the girls are texting in.

You didn't mention french-asian girls. Surely they cant be that bad?

What about tourists? Which place in your city is crawling with tourists? Do that.
You speak English obviously, and from your other thread, I take it that you're learning Russian too? Practice your Russian on Russian tourists.

My city offers me a very low return on investment in terms of women. I've accepted this and don't go out of my way to talk to women. If I see a cute foreign girl, I'll talk to her. Other than that, I'm working hard so I can leave this shit hole.

Post: #6

(08-23-2016 12:31 AM)Agreddor Wrote:  If the girls in your country are that bad, it sounds like theres no real alternative other than leaving your country, or to game foreigners.

I'm already planning to leave : /thread-57085.html

(08-23-2016 12:31 AM)Agreddor Wrote:  When you go out in the day, take the train etc, pay attention to what language the girls are texting in.

You didn't mention french-asian girls. Surely they cant be that bad?

What about tourists? Which place in your city is crawling with tourists? Do that.
You speak English obviously, and from your other thread, I take it that you're learning Russian too? Practice your Russian on Russian tourists.

You're right, I should focus more on tourist. As for asian, it's just not my style. I don't learn russian, but spanish & will start estonian soon (it's not russian).

(08-23-2016 12:31 AM)Agreddor Wrote:  My city offers me a very low return on investment in terms of women. I've accepted this and don't go out of my way to talk to women. If I see a cute foreign girl, I'll talk to her. Other than that, I'm working hard so I can leave this shit hole.

So obvious yet so true in my case too!!

Post: #7

So you're in one of the most international cities in world, that has over 2 million people that is a world fashion hotspot, girls travel there everyday to get French romance(dick) and you can't find hot girls.



More about yourself.

Do you speak French?
What type of girls do you like?

Post: #8

I'm visiting Paris quite often/regular and my experience is totaly different from what OP is describing.

Post: #9

(08-21-2016 03:06 PM)James Bond Next level Wrote:  During the night, it's usually an average girl surrounded by 3-4 guys and very few really hot in total.

Your statement holds true for mainstream places during mainstream hours, where you have mainstream people...

Reference: I live in Paris

Post: #10

(08-23-2016 06:24 AM)realologist Wrote:  So you're in one of the most international cities in world, that has over 2 million people that is a world fashion hotspot, girls travel there everyday to get French romance(dick) and you can't find hot girls.



More about yourself.

Do you speak French?
What type of girls do you like?

Yep, I am french. I like great body (face-boobs-general harmony) and some degree of connection. My game as evolved and I'm starting to get picky : I want above average. I don't hang out much in international spot, but I will.
Honestly Paris is way overrated, it had its past glory but no more. Why so much parisian want to move out if it wasnt the case?

(08-23-2016 08:40 AM)philosophe Wrote:  

(08-21-2016 03:06 PM)James Bond Next level Wrote:  During the night, it's usually an average girl surrounded by 3-4 guys and very few really hot in total.

Your statement holds true for mainstream places during mainstream hours, where you have mainstream people...

Reference: I live in Paris

In France perhaps. Go travel a bit and you may be surprised...

Post: #11

Maybe you just cannot be picky in France, you do not attract hot French women? And your reaction of demolishing the French females is as high as your incapacity of getting closer to belles parisiennes?

It is easier to travel to countries such as Finland where sex rapports are seen as a natural and positive thing. And therefore women are more promiscuous and tend to dominate their timid men in certain aspects of life.

If you like it easy go there, it is your choice, but do not complain about the French women. What you are saying is not credible.

And I am returning your advice: go travel to the US to make a real perspective.

Reference: I lived six months in NYC.

Post: #12

^ I always trust the guy pointing out a country's or their women's flaws over one that defends without specifics.

And also adds the obligatory statement which may be the weakest for any city or country:

"Did you go to the exact right venues on the exact right nights at the exact right time during the exact time of year?"

Post: #13

(08-22-2016 01:29 PM)James Bond Next level Wrote:  I know but daygame feel like work : 100% focus on pulling, nothing else. If it is spontaneous okay, but going out especially for it, well. Other ideas?

You need to adapt to your environment instead of trying to force conditions that don't exist.

You live in arguably one of the best places in the world for day game. Paris is walkable, condense, an international world stop for everyone, a lot of the women dress very well, most are thin, many of the women have a feminine vibe about them (by western standards at least), and there are a billion spots both big and small to hit and do approaches. I get that you don't want to day game for the sake of day game but Paris is a VERY pleasant city to walk around and to just take the vibe in.

For many non-French women, the city alone is a panty dropper and does half the work for you. I had chicks back in the US damn near ready to take vacation time abruptly to come visit me. Other European cities? Whatever. Paris? "Oh my gawd...I want to come visit you right now! Let me see if I can take work off next week." They meant it. Paris, deserving or not, simply makes many non-French women cream themselves. You should be able to fuck tourists alone for the rest of your life; especially since you have decent english skills from the sounds of it. That's a niche on its own you could get lost in since a lot french men have no english skills.

But you talk like you live in some crappy small town in the US. I have lived in these small towns. You have ZERO idea how good you have it.

I have been to Paris only briefly and with ZERO French speaking ability was getting numbers from French residents and non-English speaking tourists/foreigners. IF ONLY I spoke french fluently, it would have been a murder scene.

I'm not saying Paris is perfect. It has some quirks and issues. However, you are sitting on a goldmine in many respects; especially by western standards. To NOT day game in Paris... what a waste...

Post: #14

(08-23-2016 05:05 PM)Travesty Wrote:  ^ I always trust the guy pointing out a country's or their women's flaws over one that defends without specifics.

And also adds the obligatory statement which may be the weakest for any city or country:

"Did you go to the exact right venues on the exact right nights at the exact right time during the exact time of year?"

If you would have said: "I always trust the one with specifics to the one with none" I would have answered BRAVO ! This guy thinks logically. (thinking logically does not necessarily mean smart)
Instead, he had to add women's flaws as a deep argument to win against my purposely no direct specifics. I will not comment about the women's flaws argument, I will just defend myself.

Now, when a topic is so evident, there is no need to add specifics, it would be just intellectually clumsy. Do you need to prove that your laptop exists to use it or to talk about it? No you just use it without giving specifics about its existence. Do I need to prove that hot French parisienne exists? I do not think so, it is almost a truism.

And about the weakest bla bla bla: I did not wrote what you quote.
I will not give a long comment, as it is so obvious, once more. Hot girls do not go where beauf guys go. That is common sense.

Patently, you've never put a foot in Paris.

Peace

Post: #15

Okay I'm gonna close this since this thread seems to go into pointless debate rather than meaningful information.
Thank you for some of the good advices anyway, I'll def reconsider daygame and for sure hang out more in tourists/expats spot.

I'll just agree that for those who speak about paris without having at least been there to go and make your own opinion. Don't trust what I wrote, be like a scientist and go there to make a semi-objective analysis. But TBH, it takes some time to get a better idea of what Paris really is. Anyway in the end, there is not ONE truth. I know some players here who fuck like crazy (several hundreds notch) but are not really picky. And there are some other guys a bit more picky like me, I have my reasons that's all. So of course not everyone agree on the level of hotness.

Post: #16

Mr. Bond, why learn Estonian?

I hope it is not for game purposes, since almost all of the girls there speak English, and possibly the few ones who do not speak are from Russian extraction. Also it must be possibly one of the hardest European languages to learn, and it is spoken only by a mere one million people.

Learn Russian. Thank me later.

Post: #17

(08-25-2016 06:36 PM)Rocha Wrote:  Mr. Bond, why learn Estonian?

I hope it is not for game purposes, since almost all of the girls there speak English, and possibly the few ones who do not speak are from Russian extraction. Also it must be possibly one of the hardest European languages to learn, and it is spoken only by a mere one million people.

Learn Russian. Thank me later.

Wrong thread, but I'll answer here.
No, it's for work, I know they speak english quite well. But even if we remove work, I would never move in a country without knowing some of the native language. As for russian, it has crossed my mind. Maybe when my estonian is on point? We'll see

Post: #18

James bond..... I am sort of on your side... I am from NYC and I moved to Germany and the numbers and quality has improved since I moved here.

I am not bigger, stronger or better looking than when I left NYC... location does matter and even though Paris might be a fantastic city for most, maybe its just not compatible for you.

I think you should target tourists and girls who have freshly immigrated to the country.... I survived on European Aupairs in NYC for many years because American girls were just not working for me.

Post: #19

(08-25-2016 08:03 PM)kirdiesel Wrote:  James bond..... I am sort of on your side... I am from NYC and I moved to Germany and the numbers and quality has improved since I moved here.

I am not bigger, stronger or better looking than when I left NYC... location does matter and even though Paris might be a fantastic city for most, maybe its just not compatible for you.

I think you should target tourists and girls who have freshly immigrated to the country.... I survived on European Aupairs in NYC for many years because American girls were just not working for me.

Thanks for the support man. I actually was in germany several times and did find some really hot groups of students. A buddy of mine moved there too. The only problem is the numbers of migrants there, but that's another story. Enjoy the beer and boobies

Post: #20

Please stop hating on Germany.

Paris has more migrants than any other place in Europe.

Post: #21

(08-26-2016 02:25 PM)CameraXL Wrote:  Please stop hating on Germany.

Paris has more migrants than any other place in Europe.

I was about to post that... the migrant thing is completely overblown by the media.

Believe me I'm not infatuated with Germany and im not even 1% German but the migrant thing is BS.

I was in Cologne and out during the night of the "rapes" and nothing was going on in the area i was in.

Post: #22

Mmmmm, the euro/brazil au pairs in Manhattan. One night a week off to go crazy. So much fun. If you're willing to spend on drinks you can literally have 6-8 hot EE/Swedish nannies on your arm the whole night competing for your attention.

Post: #23

(08-26-2016 02:29 PM)kirdiesel Wrote:  

(08-26-2016 02:25 PM)CameraXL Wrote:  Please stop hating on Germany.

Paris has more migrants than any other place in Europe.

I was about to post that... the migrant thing is completely overblown by the media.

Believe me I'm not infatuated with Germany and im not even 1% German but the migrant thing is BS.

I was in Cologne and out during the night of the "rapes" and nothing was going on in the area i was in.

Sorry if I didn't conveyed the right message, but I don't hate germany at all! I just told I did find some girls cute (actually in a proportion higher than France). As for refugees, Germany is planning to receive 2,5 M in 5 years. So that's a lot IMO.
As for Paris we do (sigh) have lots of migrants, I would be a fool to say that it's overall better here. But the real problems are 2nd of 3rd generation of immigrants : they are born in France and live almost all their life in France but are the worst! It was for example the case of a lot of the terrorists of the Bataclan attack.

Post: #24

(08-26-2016 03:10 PM)DonnyGately Wrote:  Mmmmm, the euro/brazil au pairs in Manhattan. One night a week off to go crazy. So much fun. If you're willing to spend on drinks you can literally have 6-8 hot EE/Swedish nannies on your arm the whole night competing for your attention.

is there au pair evening/gathering? If so, how did you find it? (I checked in Paris, nothing so far)

Post: #25

(08-26-2016 03:54 PM)James Bond Next level Wrote:  

(08-26-2016 03:10 PM)DonnyGately Wrote:  Mmmmm, the euro/brazil au pairs in Manhattan. One night a week off to go crazy. So much fun. If you're willing to spend on drinks you can literally have 6-8 hot EE/Swedish nannies on your arm the whole night competing for your attention.

is there au pair evening/gathering? If so, how did you find it? (I checked in Paris, nothing so far)

Some years back, I met a group of au-pair girls in Madrid. Asked how they met, they said over a Facebook group "au-pair in Madrid". I have just checked, there are groups like that for Paris, too. Might be weird to join as a guy and message chicks, but hey that's out of the box!

Last year I spent one night solo in Paris, joined a Pub Crawl (google it). Got my Brazilian flag with a student.