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Sidney Crosby 路 2016-07-23 23:16:00 路 #8177
Was just at a wedding, left early. Every girl there there that was open to getting dicked was either fat,had a ton of shitty tattoos,unnatural hair that looked awful or all of the above.
The only half decent chicks there were with guys, maybe the unattended cattle should jot down some notes.
The only half decent chicks there were with guys, maybe the unattended cattle should jot down some notes.
storm 路 2016-07-24 01:46:00 路 #8178
Learning dance game in Brazil.
Could not pull... But I am getting closer. some notes. danced with an old girl, she showed me what she liked... some sort of Brazilian dance grinding.
Tried that with a few girls and bingo. I think you need to come at 2-3am because earlier everyone is posing.
The girls got very hot, and I was able to pull off the dance floor. But I can't get them out of the club... I even dropped my standards pretty low and wasn't able to which is just the worst feeling.
Game plan was... Get them on the floor, warm them up, pull off the floor, pull into the entrance corridor, then pull out of the club. Twice I got to the penultimate step but ultimately I went home alone.
Worth pointing out that I was talking with these girls for 20-30 min each. So I think I can call myself conversational in Portuguese... I sound like Tarzan but 17 days is pretty good.
Could not pull... But I am getting closer. some notes. danced with an old girl, she showed me what she liked... some sort of Brazilian dance grinding.
Tried that with a few girls and bingo. I think you need to come at 2-3am because earlier everyone is posing.
The girls got very hot, and I was able to pull off the dance floor. But I can't get them out of the club... I even dropped my standards pretty low and wasn't able to which is just the worst feeling.
Game plan was... Get them on the floor, warm them up, pull off the floor, pull into the entrance corridor, then pull out of the club. Twice I got to the penultimate step but ultimately I went home alone.
Worth pointing out that I was talking with these girls for 20-30 min each. So I think I can call myself conversational in Portuguese... I sound like Tarzan but 17 days is pretty good.
YoungArt 路 2016-07-24 08:31:00 路 #8179
On the train back home as I type this. I met up with our forum member Lucky. We met last year at the RooshV world tour. Decided to do a little reunion meet-up this weekend. It was fun, Lucky was high energy. Fucker ran around Alexanderplatz approaching every cutie he saw. He was collecting numbers like crazy.
Later we met with some of the girls he actually approached. I was impressed by him, he had so many numbers he had to save them by their ages instead of their names. I'm sure he'll share his experience on this.
Later on Friday and Saturday we went out clubbing. Met many girls. Lot's of hugs and kisses but we just couldn't close. I mean we've been approaching soo many chicks, so many sets. Especially on Saturday, we've been crazy approaching all night long.
Usually we encountered the same problem though:
-Approach some cuties, start talking, establishing a great vibe, escalating with kino. Girls seem to be into it and then suddenly out of nowhere their female friends appear and they start cockblocking and pulling them away from us.
-Second biggest problem was escalating into kissing and getting them back to our hostel.
Often we would talk to girls and the vibe would be great and then they would just use the same old line on us:
-we have to go to the water closet
- we have to go back to our friends
-we have to go back inside (we approached them mostly outside, where the music wasn't noisy)
I mean even though we didn't get the bang this weekend, we still had some moments where it was going really great with different sets of girls.
At one point we had those 2 French chicks and we've been going full kino and kiss closing them. Lucky was all over his chick and apparently he got a hard on in his pants and one old British fat women saw that shit happening as she fucking grabbed his dick out of nowhere. It was hilarious but also fucked up at the same time.
I mean we had a lot of fun with all the different girls. British, Spanish, American, German, Italian, we just approached them all. Though it seemed like most of them were there merely for the attention and not for a one night stand with a stranger. We also met 2 German (trashy) girls that seemed "easy" but again they were trashy! I mean the whole night we've been approaching mostly 7's and 8's, actually we just approached them all (except fatties). There was no approach anxiety what so ever. Just two guys having fun.
Now after this experience we wonder if our game was bad or if night game is actually 80-90% luck. It seemed like only some "trashy" girls were DTF. I mean if this is what an average player picks up at night then really it's nothing impressive. I'm sure even an AFC without any game could pull those trashy chicks. Nothing impressive here. I wanna know if anybody is pulling 7's and 8's not 6's and below.
Moreover, what actually did work well for us were the girls that Lucky approached earlier while day gaming. We met with some of them for drinks before going to the club later. Saturday we had a double date and it was going great. We went to a club with them but one of them didn't have her ID so she couldn't get in.
It seems like the best method is to day approach girls and later meet up with them for drinks.
Really though is night game even worth it? I really want to know if any top players pull "decent" girls while night gaming. I'm talking about 7's and 8's (18 - 23 years old)
Maybe it's difficult because we were in Berlin. We might go to East Europe next year.
Later we met with some of the girls he actually approached. I was impressed by him, he had so many numbers he had to save them by their ages instead of their names. I'm sure he'll share his experience on this.
Later on Friday and Saturday we went out clubbing. Met many girls. Lot's of hugs and kisses but we just couldn't close. I mean we've been approaching soo many chicks, so many sets. Especially on Saturday, we've been crazy approaching all night long.
Usually we encountered the same problem though:
-Approach some cuties, start talking, establishing a great vibe, escalating with kino. Girls seem to be into it and then suddenly out of nowhere their female friends appear and they start cockblocking and pulling them away from us.
-Second biggest problem was escalating into kissing and getting them back to our hostel.
Often we would talk to girls and the vibe would be great and then they would just use the same old line on us:
-we have to go to the water closet
- we have to go back to our friends
-we have to go back inside (we approached them mostly outside, where the music wasn't noisy)
I mean even though we didn't get the bang this weekend, we still had some moments where it was going really great with different sets of girls.
At one point we had those 2 French chicks and we've been going full kino and kiss closing them. Lucky was all over his chick and apparently he got a hard on in his pants and one old British fat women saw that shit happening as she fucking grabbed his dick out of nowhere. It was hilarious but also fucked up at the same time.
I mean we had a lot of fun with all the different girls. British, Spanish, American, German, Italian, we just approached them all. Though it seemed like most of them were there merely for the attention and not for a one night stand with a stranger. We also met 2 German (trashy) girls that seemed "easy" but again they were trashy! I mean the whole night we've been approaching mostly 7's and 8's, actually we just approached them all (except fatties). There was no approach anxiety what so ever. Just two guys having fun.
Now after this experience we wonder if our game was bad or if night game is actually 80-90% luck. It seemed like only some "trashy" girls were DTF. I mean if this is what an average player picks up at night then really it's nothing impressive. I'm sure even an AFC without any game could pull those trashy chicks. Nothing impressive here. I wanna know if anybody is pulling 7's and 8's not 6's and below.
Moreover, what actually did work well for us were the girls that Lucky approached earlier while day gaming. We met with some of them for drinks before going to the club later. Saturday we had a double date and it was going great. We went to a club with them but one of them didn't have her ID so she couldn't get in.
It seems like the best method is to day approach girls and later meet up with them for drinks.
Really though is night game even worth it? I really want to know if any top players pull "decent" girls while night gaming. I'm talking about 7's and 8's (18 - 23 years old)
Maybe it's difficult because we were in Berlin. We might go to East Europe next year.
DonnyGately 路 2016-07-24 16:37:00 路 #8180
(07-20-2016 07:01 PM)redbeard Wrote:(07-20-2016 06:21 PM)kaotic Wrote: My favorite is saying outrageous things about the date to my date.
"Last date I had was 15 minutes long"
"You don't seem that crazy"
"Hey you can always leave"
"You're alright.....I mean there's some things to work on"
Always with a grin.
The shock value makes them laugh, stories start coming out, you get more in depth, deeper into her mind.
Sometimes I mildly but intentionally say stuff like that to interrupt the flow of a date.
I've never had a girl ever get pissed at me or walk out on me from that, it's all about how you frame it and sell it.
I love this shit.
"Well this date is going well..."
"Hold on...let me text my friend to come pick me up..."
Classic PUA. "That's it we're breaking up."
I use this one all the time, girls love it. Maybe I'll write a simple post on push-pull as it seems 90% of guys here don't do it or even know about it.
toejam 路 2016-07-24 20:45:00 路 #8181
@DonnyGately
Do it dude. This thread or new thread?
Do it dude. This thread or new thread?
Eddie Winslow 路 2016-07-24 22:25:00 路 #8182
Stayed in the pocket for my most brutal rejection in a very long time. It felt pretty shitty for 5 seconds, but I'm feeling confident and proud of myself now.
Soon after walking in, I approached 3 drunk white girls playing ping-pong at a mostly empty bar, while completely sober. In a cliquey, touristy area like the Jersey Shore, its a massive DLV to be a lone wolf in a dive bar. I also waited a little too long. Not good odds.
After a rough initial 30 seconds, I got the girls to open up a bit. I knew 2 of the 3 girls didn't like me, but I kept up a convo for >10 minutes, and the girl who liked me was pretty cute. I reapproached 2 times because they kept running away. At this point I was just looking for some window to get my girl alone for 15 seconds, get her number, and GTFO, even though my likelihood of success was diminishing at an incredible pace.
When I reapproached the second time, one of the girls called me out loudly and said "WHY ARE YOU FOLLOWING US? WE'RE DOING OUR OWN THING AND WE DON'T WANT TO HANG OUT WITH YOU ANYMORE. CHEERS."
I kept it cool, cheers'd the girl who bitched me out and told them all to have a good night, and walked right out the door.
Its feels good to know I pushed the interaction to the absolute limit, and that an almost worst-case outcome was basically painless
I should probably just cut the shit and start doing direct Krauser-style daygame in the street
Soon after walking in, I approached 3 drunk white girls playing ping-pong at a mostly empty bar, while completely sober. In a cliquey, touristy area like the Jersey Shore, its a massive DLV to be a lone wolf in a dive bar. I also waited a little too long. Not good odds.
After a rough initial 30 seconds, I got the girls to open up a bit. I knew 2 of the 3 girls didn't like me, but I kept up a convo for >10 minutes, and the girl who liked me was pretty cute. I reapproached 2 times because they kept running away. At this point I was just looking for some window to get my girl alone for 15 seconds, get her number, and GTFO, even though my likelihood of success was diminishing at an incredible pace.
When I reapproached the second time, one of the girls called me out loudly and said "WHY ARE YOU FOLLOWING US? WE'RE DOING OUR OWN THING AND WE DON'T WANT TO HANG OUT WITH YOU ANYMORE. CHEERS."
I kept it cool, cheers'd the girl who bitched me out and told them all to have a good night, and walked right out the door.
Its feels good to know I pushed the interaction to the absolute limit, and that an almost worst-case outcome was basically painless
I should probably just cut the shit and start doing direct Krauser-style daygame in the street
Gorgiass 路 2016-07-25 11:32:00 路 #8183
(07-24-2016 04:37 PM)DonnyGately Wrote:(07-20-2016 07:01 PM)redbeard Wrote:(07-20-2016 06:21 PM)kaotic Wrote: My favorite is saying outrageous things about the date to my date.
"Last date I had was 15 minutes long"
"You don't seem that crazy"
"Hey you can always leave"
"You're alright.....I mean there's some things to work on"
Always with a grin.
The shock value makes them laugh, stories start coming out, you get more in depth, deeper into her mind.
Sometimes I mildly but intentionally say stuff like that to interrupt the flow of a date.
I've never had a girl ever get pissed at me or walk out on me from that, it's all about how you frame it and sell it.
I love this shit.
"Well this date is going well..."
"Hold on...let me text my friend to come pick me up..."
Classic PUA. "That's it we're breaking up."
I use this one all the time, girls love it. Maybe I'll write a simple post on push-pull as it seems 90% of guys here don't do it or even know about it.
Any guy who's getting laid is using push/pull to some extent. Swinggcat did it best in the beginning - page 43 at http://buffman.net/ebooks/Swinggcat.pdf
Love Systems interview series episode dealing with it is two hours of absolute gold with dozens of solid lines, routines, and theory. Would be $37 well spent for anyone interested in the topic although they do run package deal specials for the interviews once in a while. At least did until the recent company sale, who knows what future marketing will be. https://www.lovesystems.com/products/int...-push-pull
I like that bolded line and have never heard it before, will definitely put to use.
Gorgiass 路 2016-07-25 11:44:00 路 #8184
Just getting home from a new girl - 10 years younger than I Spanish chick with an amazing body and hair like I haven't even seen outside a Pantene commercial before. One week after initial approach, never heard back from first text but lobbed a well-thought out hail mary and got a response.
![[Image: 20160725_122506_zps7vv4lrnq.jpg]](http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b542/Gorgiass/rvf/20160725_122506_zps7vv4lrnq.jpg)
Decided on this version as it had the non-needy clause, but specifically because it ended with "you alone" which imparts a negative final emotion - she finishes reading that and it elicits thoughts of her and an empty apartment watching TV again, etc - followed by smiley, ie me as an alternative, and separating me from "alone". At least that was the amateur hour psych intention, and it worked very well this time. Further research forthcoming!
![[Image: 20160725_122506_zps7vv4lrnq.jpg]](http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/Gorgiass/media/rvf/20160725_122506_zps7vv4lrnq.jpg.html)
Decided on this version as it had the non-needy clause, but specifically because it ended with "you alone" which imparts a negative final emotion - she finishes reading that and it elicits thoughts of her and an empty apartment watching TV again, etc - followed by smiley, ie me as an alternative, and separating me from "alone". At least that was the amateur hour psych intention, and it worked very well this time. Further research forthcoming!
RunsWithScissors 路 2016-07-25 13:21:00 路 #8185
Looking for some advice on how I could have handled this situation better, not trying to fix anything because I know she's too much drama so just want learning experience.
I was hanging out with a girl from the coffee shop who is 11 years younger than me for a couple months, she was way into me though has some red flags. She had some life drama come up and kinda ghosted me so I let it go and cut way back on communication. She still sent me an occasional tease snapchat but said no when I would invite her to do something with me, saying she was too busy figuring out a move and applying for new jobs and she wanted to see me as soon as she got her life situation figured out. A couple weeks ago she sent a mass snapchat to me saying her phone died and lost all her contacts and that people should text her. I didn't reply to that one because I had a plate visiting for the weekend and (here's the first part of where I think I fucked up) I wanted the barista chick to invest more to get my attention.
Last week I go on vacation to the beach with my kids and send her a pic of me in the ocean with no shirt and a gorgeous sunset behind me. 3 days later she replies.
Her: Nice pic, but about those weeks of silence...
Me: Yeah, where ya been? Kept waiting to hear you had time for me
Her: You saw my messages and didn't respond.
Me: I haven't gotten a message from you in a couple weeks other than your blast about losing your contacts
Her: Yeah. That blast was me telling you I had no way to contact you. So it was in your hands for that contact to happen
<Here's where I really fuck up, forgot there's no point in rationalizing with women>
Me: I've asked to do stuff with you and got either No or silence. You had time for beer festivals and drive in movies but not for lunch with me. If you want to see me a little personal effort is needed, not a mass message to everyone you know
No reply from her, saw her at the coffee shop after I got back, she was cold, I asked if she didn't want to talk to me and she said she didn't, so I said ok and left.
I know the last thing I wrote her was way wrong, in fact my entire response to her was probably wrong. I think her replying after 3 days was an opening that I fucked up. Suggestions on how I should have handled it?
I was hanging out with a girl from the coffee shop who is 11 years younger than me for a couple months, she was way into me though has some red flags. She had some life drama come up and kinda ghosted me so I let it go and cut way back on communication. She still sent me an occasional tease snapchat but said no when I would invite her to do something with me, saying she was too busy figuring out a move and applying for new jobs and she wanted to see me as soon as she got her life situation figured out. A couple weeks ago she sent a mass snapchat to me saying her phone died and lost all her contacts and that people should text her. I didn't reply to that one because I had a plate visiting for the weekend and (here's the first part of where I think I fucked up) I wanted the barista chick to invest more to get my attention.
Last week I go on vacation to the beach with my kids and send her a pic of me in the ocean with no shirt and a gorgeous sunset behind me. 3 days later she replies.
Her: Nice pic, but about those weeks of silence...
Me: Yeah, where ya been? Kept waiting to hear you had time for me
Her: You saw my messages and didn't respond.
Me: I haven't gotten a message from you in a couple weeks other than your blast about losing your contacts
Her: Yeah. That blast was me telling you I had no way to contact you. So it was in your hands for that contact to happen
<Here's where I really fuck up, forgot there's no point in rationalizing with women>
Me: I've asked to do stuff with you and got either No or silence. You had time for beer festivals and drive in movies but not for lunch with me. If you want to see me a little personal effort is needed, not a mass message to everyone you know
No reply from her, saw her at the coffee shop after I got back, she was cold, I asked if she didn't want to talk to me and she said she didn't, so I said ok and left.
I know the last thing I wrote her was way wrong, in fact my entire response to her was probably wrong. I think her replying after 3 days was an opening that I fucked up. Suggestions on how I should have handled it?
Dantes 路 2016-07-25 13:34:00 路 #8186
(07-25-2016 01:21 PM)RunsWithScissors Wrote: Looking for some advice on how I could have handled this situation better, not trying to fix anything because I know she's too much drama so just want learning experience.
I was hanging out with a girl from the coffee shop who is 11 years younger than me for a couple months, she was way into me though has some red flags. She had some life drama come up and kinda ghosted me so I let it go and cut way back on communication. She still sent me an occasional tease snapchat but said no when I would invite her to do something with me, saying she was too busy figuring out a move and applying for new jobs and she wanted to see me as soon as she got her life situation figured out. A couple weeks ago she sent a mass snapchat to me saying her phone died and lost all her contacts and that people should text her. I didn't reply to that one because I had a plate visiting for the weekend and (here's the first part of where I think I fucked up) I wanted the barista chick to invest more to get my attention.
Last week I go on vacation to the beach with my kids and send her a pic of me in the ocean with no shirt and a gorgeous sunset behind me. 3 days later she replies.
Her: Nice pic, but about those weeks of silence...
Me: Yeah, where ya been? Kept waiting to hear you had time for me
Her: You saw my messages and didn't respond.
Me: I haven't gotten a message from you in a couple weeks other than your blast about losing your contacts
Her: Yeah. That blast was me telling you I had no way to contact you. So it was in your hands for that contact to happen
<Here's where I really fuck up, forgot there's no point in rationalizing with women>
Me: I've asked to do stuff with you and got either No or silence. You had time for beer festivals and drive in movies but not for lunch with me. If you want to see me a little personal effort is needed, not a mass message to everyone you know
No reply from her, saw her at the coffee shop after I got back, she was cold, I asked if she didn't want to talk to me and she said she didn't, so I said ok and left.
I know the last thing I wrote her was way wrong, in fact my entire response to her was probably wrong. I think her replying after 3 days was an opening that I fucked up. Suggestions on how I should have handled it?
Good post
You didn't need to justify your actions to her. Restart texts are just that...restart the conversation. Keep it new.
The back and forth about whose fault is was never gets you anywhere.
"Hey I have been away on vacation. My bad on not getting back to you. I will be back in town next week...let's meet up."
Jagnum 路 2016-07-26 11:28:00 路 #8187
(07-23-2016 05:55 PM)redbeard Wrote: I've only done between 5 and 10 approaches but already I am happy with the progress. Openers I've used:
Day Bang Indirect: "Hey where did you get those shoes/foam roller/whatever?"
GLL Direct: "Hi I know this is random but I thought you were cute and had to say hey"
Natural: "Killing it!"
After that I just talk about random shit. How's your session going, what are you hitting, you from around here...whatever.
I like these. Which do you find has worked best for you? Guys will say the opener doesn't matter, but I disagree. It sets the frame for the entire interaction.
I've also used the Day Bang elderly opener:
"Excuse me, is that a good exercise?"
My results have been mixed. I think it's because it doesn't telegraph interest.
Last week, opened a girl like this doing a cable leg exercise, who had been checking me out previous times at the gym. Was totally calm, chill, made good eye contact. But she bowed out of the conversation after a minute or two.
At my gym, the hot girls are either in the extremely quiet "yoga" room where people stretch, or they are on a treadmill/bike with their headphones on. How to tackle logistics on this?
Usually, I don't want to take precious time away from my workout to go "fake run next to her for a few minutes", before opening like a Day Bang coffee shop suggestion of sitting next to the hot girl.
I also go to a small gym, so hot girls there are few and far between. I stick to my workout, and if the rare hot girl makes her way into the weight area, I'll open her.
P.S. @WIA has an epic takedown of my gym approach and subsequent texting from last year, it's one of the best posts I've ever read on this forum. I learn something new, every time I read it. Here's the thread:
https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-49393.html
"How to get better at texting (with attachment)"
WestIndianArchie 路 2016-07-26 12:17:00 路 #8188
Lol. Glad it helped.
WIA
WIA
DonnyGately 路 2016-07-26 18:02:00 路 #8189
A very hot ex-plate of mine is hosting a party with her new bf. She's fine with me inviting as many girls with me as I want. What should my target be? 2, 3, 5, as many as say 'yes?' All prospects and no plates?
It's a large apt with a roof deck in the middle of the city.
It's a large apt with a roof deck in the middle of the city.
redbeard 路 2016-07-26 19:23:00 路 #8190
(07-26-2016 11:28 AM)Jagnum Wrote:(07-23-2016 05:55 PM)redbeard Wrote: I've only done between 5 and 10 approaches but already I am happy with the progress. Openers I've used:
Day Bang Indirect: "Hey where did you get those shoes/foam roller/whatever?"
GLL Direct: "Hi I know this is random but I thought you were cute and had to say hey"
Natural: "Killing it!"
After that I just talk about random shit. How's your session going, what are you hitting, you from around here...whatever.
I like these. Which do you find has worked best for you? Guys will say the opener doesn't matter, but I disagree. It sets the frame for the entire interaction.
I've also used the Day Bang elderly opener:
"Excuse me, is that a good exercise?"
My results have been mixed. I think it's because it doesn't telegraph interest.
Last week, opened a girl like this doing a cable leg exercise, who had been checking me out previous times at the gym. Was totally calm, chill, made good eye contact. But she bowed out of the conversation after a minute or two.
At my gym, the hot girls are either in the extremely quiet "yoga" room where people stretch, or they are on a treadmill/bike with their headphones on. How to tackle logistics on this?
Usually, I don't want to take precious time away from my workout to go "fake run next to her for a few minutes", before opening like a Day Bang coffee shop suggestion of sitting next to the hot girl.
I also go to a small gym, so hot girls there are few and far between. I stick to my workout, and if the rare hot girl makes her way into the weight area, I'll open her.
P.S. @WIA has an epic takedown of my gym approach and subsequent texting from last year, it's one of the best posts I've ever read on this forum. I learn something new, every time I read it. Here's the thread:
https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-49393.html
"How to get better at texting (with attachment)"
Great WIA post....
A while ago, someone posted about who should do direct vs. indirect game. I can't remember where it was, but if someone could find it, that'd be great. The post was saying what kind of game would Brad Pitt use? If Brad Pitt was in a grocery store, he wouldn't walk up to a girl and say "hi is this cabbage any good?" then talk about cooking for 15 minutes. Attraction is 100% implied. Brad would walk up and say "hi, I think you're really cute, what's up?"
This is what moved me away from indirect game...even though I didn't practice it much, I did not enjoy talking to girls about their breakfast cereal for 10 minutes before moving into the juicy stuff. I started to realize that yes...I am a tall attractive man with a great beard, there is no reason I should beat around the bush, I should let the girl know why I'm talking to her right away as to not waste time.
Where I'm going with this is that you have to match your opener and game style with who you are. Roosh's Day Bang indirect style works for him because he is a naturally stoic, analytical, intelligent man, who can feign genuine interest in mundane topics. It bored me, and I got sick of looking for what's in a girl's grocery bag to comment on.
Same concept with Tinder...I stay loyal to the "u look like trouble" opener. I use it so much I've had multiple girls say "you said that to my friend." Guess what? Doesn't matter, it's a great opener for me. Quick, straightforward, and to the point. Girls who like "u look like trouble" are fun, playful, adventurous, and already attracted to me. If they respond back and forth with quips, I'm going to have a good time. If they are taken aback by the opener, they don't know how to take a joke and will not be an enjoyable date.
Back to the question, the best gym sets seem to be when I say a natural joke to start. A situational opener. The other day this cute girl did curls right behind me, I moved to a machine, and she moved next to me. I used the headphone move, and said "Alright, now I know that you're stalking me" with a smirk. She could tell it was a joke and laughed, we went back and forth, and it was a good set.
My indirect sets get boring, I don't care about the girl's "epic shoulder routine" or what kind of preworkout wired her up that day. I know that afterward you're supposed to dive into personal details, or move into other topics, but when I've only got a few minutes in the gym, a "MICROWAVE" setting would be more optimal.
robreke 路 2016-07-26 19:48:00 路 #8191
toejam 路 2016-07-26 20:26:00 路 #8192
^^^^^^^^ hilarious
(07-26-2016 11:28 AM)Jagnum Wrote: I've also used the Day Bang elderly opener:
"Excuse me, is that a good exercise?"
My results have been mixed. I think it's because it doesn't telegraph interest.
Not only does it not telegraph interest, it telegraphs that you don't know what you're doing in the gym. I've never met a girl that knows as much about lifting as I do. How many girls do you actually see in the gym doing legitimate exercises? Not many.
I'm not going to walk up to a girl doing the hip adductor machine and ask her if it's a good exercise.
Honestly, I rarely open girls at the gym. Only if they give a very strong IOI. Nearly every girl I've talked to has told me they hate getting hit on at the gym and it's their one sanctuary where they can just put their headphones in and work out.
General Stalin 路 2016-07-27 13:40:00 路 #8194
(07-25-2016 01:21 PM)RunsWithScissors Wrote: ...
I know the last thing I wrote her was way wrong, in fact my entire response to her was probably wrong. I think her replying after 3 days was an opening that I fucked up. Suggestions on how I should have handled it?
Dantes gave you the perfect answer - I'm just posting to reinforce it. She re-opened you. The "Lost all my contacts blah blah blah" is just the cover she used. The words don't matter - you were right in thinking that she just wanted to re-open and all you had to do say was basically "Been busy my bad whats up"
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So as I've said mentioned a few times here, one of my latinas I've been banging doesn't use birth control and I don't use condoms so I've just been pulling out. She came over the other night and as we were getting nekked she asked if I still had that condom. I told her it was in my drawer and asked her why (seeing as how we've banged have a dozen times without one so far) - told me in her somewhat broke English that she hasn't had her period.
Freaked me out a bit but also doesn't make sense (this is me rationalizing that she is not actually pregnant just really wants me to use condoms). If she thought she was pregnant then it wouldn't matter at that point if we used a condom, also if she missed her period I'm pretty sure she would have brought that up earlier rather than when we are naked and about to fuck.
I've had a handful of pointless pregnancy scares with girls in the past and they always end up being nothing. Girls have wacky periods sometimes, and some girls just bullshit about stuff. All's I know is, I do NOT want to be knocking up this girl or anyone else right now. I suppose I'll be wrapping it up with her form now on, unfortunately.
kaotic 路 2016-07-27 13:45:00 路 #8195
(07-27-2016 01:40 PM)General Stalin Wrote: I've had a handful of pointless pregnancy scares with girls in the past and they always end up being nothing. Girls have wacky periods sometimes, and some girls just bullshit about stuff. All's I know is, I do NOT want to be knocking up this girl or anyone else right now. I suppose I'll be wrapping it up with her form now on, unfortunately.
About goddamn time Stalin, a Latina not on BC is a scary thing dude.
On the topic of girls in the gym.
I've been opened twice by just working out near a girl - the other times are if they could split sets with me.
The one that introduced herself to me was nice and dropped that she noticed me working out all the time at that gym.
I'm polite, but I'm there to workout, it's a busy gym, and mother fuckers are scavengers for weights and equipment.
I also have a resting asshole face - so apparently I look like an asshole/angry/not approachable. Unless I smile or laugh.
General Stalin 路 2016-07-27 18:49:00 路 #8196
Not sure if thread worthy, but just I just though about how often I am the dumper vs. the dumpee.
9/10 I'm the guy who gets dropped/ghosted/flaked on/etc. I can count on 2 hands the number of girls I've willingly let go in my life, and a couple of those were girlfriends that cheated on me so they already decided the relationship was over - I was just the one to say it. The vast majority of the time I would have liked to keep dating/seeing/hooking up with the girl but they always initiate the break away. I may be a jaded and cynical misanthrope but deep down I'm always going to be a lover.
How about you guys?
9/10 I'm the guy who gets dropped/ghosted/flaked on/etc. I can count on 2 hands the number of girls I've willingly let go in my life, and a couple of those were girlfriends that cheated on me so they already decided the relationship was over - I was just the one to say it. The vast majority of the time I would have liked to keep dating/seeing/hooking up with the girl but they always initiate the break away. I may be a jaded and cynical misanthrope but deep down I'm always going to be a lover.
How about you guys?
redbeard 路 2016-07-27 19:09:00 路 #8197
(07-27-2016 06:49 PM)General Stalin Wrote: Not sure if thread worthy, but just I just though about how often I am the dumper vs. the dumpee.
9/10 I'm the guy who gets dropped/ghosted/flaked on/etc. I can count on 2 hands the number of girls I've willingly let go in my life, and a couple of those were girlfriends that cheated on me so they already decided the relationship was over - I was just the one to say it. The vast majority of the time I would have liked to keep dating/seeing/hooking up with the girl but they always initiate the break away. I may be a jaded and cynical misanthrope but deep down I'm always going to be a lover.
How about you guys?
High five for saying dumper/dumpee, great slang.
I'm the opposite - I've only been dumped once in my life, last July. This angel I was seeing had some traumatic life situation that led her to become a strong follower of Jesus. She had to let me go because I led her to sin (seriously).
It also has to do with how you define dumper/dumpee. Most of the time, I make a conscious decision that a girl is not worth girlfriend material. At this point, I continue to bang her as long as I can, keeping a fuck buddy relationship going, but as long as it's on my terms and I'm chasing other tail. The girl will eventually get sick of being treated like a sex toy and, in her mind, she'll dump me. Traditional thinking will have you believe she's the dumper, because she officially said "I'm not seeing you anymore." I say that I'm the dumper because I'm one step ahead of her and have already checked out.
Travesty 路 2016-07-27 19:10:00 路 #8198
Exact opposite. I have had it officially ended once by a girl. She has tried getting in contact with me a few times after. I ignored her.
There have been a handful of first dates where after I either got the bang or didn't and got flaked on after where I wanted to see them again. A whole lot the other way where I banged them once or twice and never wanted their company again.
There have been a handful of first dates where after I either got the bang or didn't and got flaked on after where I wanted to see them again. A whole lot the other way where I banged them once or twice and never wanted their company again.
Rhyme or Reason 路 2016-07-27 19:52:00 路 #8199
After going to see eagles of death metal and BRMC the other day, and walking past the main stage (amphitheater, some country band) and seeing how fucking hot country music chicks are, I realized I picked the wrong genre to play in.
Rock groupies are downright nasty by comparison. Tatted, frequently ugly, frequently fat.
All the hot bitches like either EDM, country, or hip hop these days.
Yes, I know many rock stars have hot wives, but when you compare the average groupie to them there's a huge gap in attractiveness.
Rock groupies are downright nasty by comparison. Tatted, frequently ugly, frequently fat.
All the hot bitches like either EDM, country, or hip hop these days.
Yes, I know many rock stars have hot wives, but when you compare the average groupie to them there's a huge gap in attractiveness.
storm 路 2016-07-27 20:57:00 路 #8200
I'm not being nasty enough with these tinder girls.
Don't want to post the details here because of reasons but I need even nastier ideas.
Don't want to post the details here because of reasons but I need even nastier ideas.
RunsWithScissors 路 2016-07-27 22:42:00 路 #8201
Thank you Dantes and General Stalin for your feedback. I still struggle with not taking women's behavior personally, it's something I'm working on and abundance really helps.
For General Stalin's question, I've historically always been the dumpee but that had a lot to do with me being really bad at ending things. As I learn and grow I've been able to say "no thank you" to mediocre women that just aren't worth spending time with. Again, abundance is the differentiator.
I admit that I'm more of a relationship person; casual sex is fun but I get way more out of sex when there's an emotional connection, playing with her mind and her body, though as I write this I think of someone like WIA and many others here who seem like they can achieve this within moments of meeting a woman. It takes me a while to figure her out. (Good) Sex is probably as much mental as physical for me. I used to think the connection required monogamy and would settle with the first person who showed interest. Fortunately I've learned that doesn't have to be the case and I don't invest so quickly anymore. These women have to prove their value if they want to be part of my life.
For General Stalin's question, I've historically always been the dumpee but that had a lot to do with me being really bad at ending things. As I learn and grow I've been able to say "no thank you" to mediocre women that just aren't worth spending time with. Again, abundance is the differentiator.
I admit that I'm more of a relationship person; casual sex is fun but I get way more out of sex when there's an emotional connection, playing with her mind and her body, though as I write this I think of someone like WIA and many others here who seem like they can achieve this within moments of meeting a woman. It takes me a while to figure her out. (Good) Sex is probably as much mental as physical for me. I used to think the connection required monogamy and would settle with the first person who showed interest. Fortunately I've learned that doesn't have to be the case and I don't invest so quickly anymore. These women have to prove their value if they want to be part of my life.