Post: #201

Current reports make it seem as if the military coup is failing. Lots of civilians have taken to the streets and are protesting/fighting military.

Post: #202

Given NATO has remained silent and Erdogan was supposedly rejected asylum in Germany, of all places, what are the odds that this is the West's and possibly Russia's way of cleaning house in Turkey?

Post: #203

   

Hijab lady claims the coup will easily be put down. Her shaky voice says otherwise.

Post: #204

Some sources say the army is backing down.

Post: #205

The longer this goes in, the more likely the coup will fail, which I believe it will.

Post: #206

Russia Today - RT - 24 hour english language news channel, financed by the Kremlin in Moscow, has also got a live video stream of this situation.

https://www​.rt.com/on-air

Worth watching online now if you want a Russian analysis and perspective on the situation, spoken in english.

Post: #207

Shooting: https://twitter.com/yavuzselimgunes/stat...8082975744
Military tank runs over cars: https://twitter.com/moezbhar/status/754082828082671616
Civilians took back the Atatürk airport.

Post: #208

(07-15-2016 05:46 PM)Mercenary Wrote:  Russia Today - RT english language channel, financed by the Kremlin in Moscow, has also got a live video stream of this situation.

https://www​.rt.com/on-air

Worth watching online now if you want a russian analysis and perspective on the situation.

Says overloaded. The Youtube one seems ok:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxcfhDnD1Q0

Post: #209

What a year this has turned into. Hopefully our boys over there stay safe.

Post: #210

(07-15-2016 05:50 PM)Adonis Wrote:  What a year this has turned into. Hopefully our boys over there stay safe.

'The base is one of six NATO sites in Europe which hold tactical nuclear weapons.'

Post: #211

(07-15-2016 05:43 PM)Marcus Aurelius Wrote:  Lots of civilians have taken to the streets and are protesting/fighting military.

In Istanbul. But, there is more to Turkey than Istanbul! I wonder where the grey wolves are roaming, by the way...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey_Wolve...anization)

Post: #212

Come on people provide sources if you claim things like the army is backing down.

Remember Istanbul is a large city, a few thousand people will look like a lot, but a very small fraction. I can't believe that Erdogan has a majority in Istanbul.

Post: #213

Based on the Reddit livestream, it seems like the coup is falling apart? Anyone have any better info? It might just be what people are pushing onto the stream.

Post: #214

(07-15-2016 05:52 PM)Going strong Wrote:  

(07-15-2016 05:43 PM)Marcus Aurelius Wrote:  Lots of civilians have taken to the streets and are protesting/fighting military.

In Istanbul. But, there is more to Turkey than Istanbul! I wonder where the grey wolves are roaming, by the way...

Is Istanbul pro Erdogan? I thought it was very divided. Grey wolves are extreme conservatives, they would side more with Erdogan I assume.

Post: #215

What about his son? Has Erdogan's son been arrested?
That's important....he has information.

Post: #216

(07-15-2016 05:26 PM)Brodiaga Wrote:  Time to buy Turkey stock market ETFs? Invest when there's blood in the streets.

I had the same thought, made money on the Thai ETF after the coup there.

In this case, could be an extended conflict/civil war.

It's Friday, we will see where we are on Monday 0930.

Post: #217

There is no way Erdogan would be attempting to seek asylum, or desperately trying to FaceTime his supporters, if this coup were about to fail. This is nowhere near done.

Post: #218

(07-15-2016 05:54 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  Come on people provide sources if you claim things like the army is backing down.

Remember Istanbul is a large city, a few thousand people will look like a lot, but a very small fraction. I can't believe that Erdogan has a majority in Istanbul.

You should follow what the Turks are saying in this thread, they are not optimistic about the situation: http://boards.4chan.org/int/thread/62148...#p62149420

One said 'There is a very good chance rest of the army will join the coup tomorrow. and erdogan's demise will come true'
Others say it's a possible false flag to secure his presidency
Only a couple of generals and a small percentage of the army is in on it at this very moment, could change tomorrow though.

Post: #219

Reports that some coup leaders been arrested. What do they have to lose? If not successful, Erdogan will have them all executed next week. This should be all or nothing for them. They can't just abandon it midway, they are finished either way if it fails.

Post: #220

(07-15-2016 05:57 PM)RaccoonFace Wrote:  

(07-15-2016 05:54 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  Come on people provide sources if you claim things like the army is backing down.

Remember Istanbul is a large city, a few thousand people will look like a lot, but a very small fraction. I can't believe that Erdogan has a majority in Istanbul.

You should follow what the Turks are saying in this thread, they are not optimistic about the situation: http://boards.4chan.org/int/thread/62148...#p62149420

It's turks outside Turkey and they are Anatolian peasents who love Erdogan.

Post: #221

(07-15-2016 05:59 PM)AManLikePutin Wrote:  Reports that some coup leaders been arrested. What do they have to lose? If not successful, Erdogan will have them all executed next week. This should be all or nothing for them. They can't just abandon it midway, they are finished either way if it fails.

Enough with these 'reports' post your sources now or it's getting to be trolling.

Post: #222

(07-15-2016 05:55 PM)rottenapple Wrote:  

(07-15-2016 05:52 PM)Going strong Wrote:  

(07-15-2016 05:43 PM)Marcus Aurelius Wrote:  Lots of civilians have taken to the streets and are protesting/fighting military.

In Istanbul. But, there is more to Turkey than Istanbul! I wonder where the grey wolves are roaming, by the way...

Is Istanbul pro Erdogan? I thought it was very divided. Grey wolves are extreme conservatives, they would side more with Erdogan I assume.

"Beyond images, there are a couple of other factors that will strengthen the MHP not only in municipal but also in general elections. First, since Gezi, the AKP has lost quite a bit of steam. Erdogan’s constant presence in the media and AKP members’ rather aggressive stance, with repeated angry outbursts, is not helping. The Gezi protests, graft probes and intensified fighting with the Gulen movement are expected to have consequences in the elections. Conservative Turks and Islamists do not have another option but to vote for the MHP. There is no Salafi movement in mainstream Turkish politics yet. Many of the pious Muslims are now skeptical about the AKP’s methods of acquiring wealth. Also, the AKP has failed utterly in foreign policy. The pride of neo-Ottomans has been quite shaken, especially in regard to Syria. The MHP provides an alternative for that as well. Last, despite all calls from the AKP, the Gulen movement has declined to form a political party; instead, it is expected to support the strongest possible candidate against AKP.

Thus, many of the undecided voters from the right-wing ideology may swing toward a MHP that has broken out of its 1970s image of ultranationalism. Last summer, when an 18-year-old Istanbul cab driver told me, “The MHP is the only answer to the AKP, which refers to our martyred conscripts as 'a few bodies.'” I had not taken him seriously. Now, however, there are too many signs to ignore his statement.

Read more: http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/original...urkey.html
"

note: AKP=Erdogan, MHP includes young Grey Wolves

Post: #223

(07-15-2016 05:54 PM)Mike5055 Wrote:  It might just be what people are pushing onto the stream.

It's the information war. First casualty is truth. The defenders have interest in presenting things as "failing" so they can extinguish the morale of the insurgents. Take the wind off their sails.

Either way, this certainly can't be over in a day, not even if he hangs from a lamppost.

Post: #224

(07-15-2016 06:00 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

(07-15-2016 05:57 PM)RaccoonFace Wrote:  

(07-15-2016 05:54 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  Come on people provide sources if you claim things like the army is backing down.

Remember Istanbul is a large city, a few thousand people will look like a lot, but a very small fraction. I can't believe that Erdogan has a majority in Istanbul.

You should follow what the Turks are saying in this thread, they are not optimistic about the situation: http://boards.4chan.org/int/thread/62148...#p62149420

It's turks outside Turkey and they are Anatolian peasents who love Erdogan.

What are you talking about? You're confusing Facebook with 4chan. Literally all Turks in that thread hate Erdogan. The Anatolian peasants are indeed overrepresented in the Turkish immigrants in Europe but they post their bullshit on Facebook, not 4chan. By the way, don't be confused by the high amount of foreign posters in there, they are not Turkish immigrants, besides the German flags maybe.

Post: #225

(07-15-2016 06:02 PM)72 and sunny Wrote:  

(07-15-2016 05:54 PM)Mike5055 Wrote:  It might just be what people are pushing onto the stream.

It's the information war. First casualty is truth. The defenders have interest in presenting things as "falling" so they can extinguish the morale of the insurgents. Take the wind off their sails.

Either way, this certainly can't be over in a day, not even if he hangs from a lamppost.

If the insurgents are on the internet right now, they already lost.