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RE: Kobe Goes to the Cleaners
(12-20-2011 01:29 PM)joehoya Wrote: It is funny finding out what happens to these chicks AFTER they leave their rich husbands.
Remember Eddie Murphy's fine ass wife Nicole? When she divorced Eddie, she took him for $15 million. The end result? The dumb bitch SPENT ALL OF IT in just 4 fucking years. Not only that. The bitch actually owed the IRS over $800K and her lawyers another $600K.
So what does a chick with no skills other than being fine do? She hooks up with another famous dude. Now that she is older, and other guys have seen how she will take them to the cleaners, she can't pull a guy of Eddie Murphy's caliber. She has to settle for Michael Strahan.
Yeah...Michael Strahan, whose wife famously took HIM to the cleaners! He's still doing okay for himself, but point taken - he's not Eddie Murphy at his peak level. However, he is reasonably famous. Chicks like that notoriously hunt actors or athletes. And she still looks good, so if they modify their expectations, they'll still get a reasonably famous, good looking dude to sport and fuck them even at her age.
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RE: Kobe Goes to the Cleaners
(12-17-2011 12:06 AM)Timoteo Wrote: If you remember way back when, Kobe met Vanessa at a music video shoot when she was still in high school. His parents weren't even at the wedding because he basically told them to fuck off (they had the audacity to want to meet the girl he was marrying). He wouldn't listen to anyone when they told him to at least get a pre-nup. Kobe's the ultimate lone wolf. I knew she wasn't going to leave him after the Colorado mess, because she wasn't vested enough. It also put her in the power position in the marriage. Him buying her the purple diamond "I'm sorry" ring, and getting the "my queen" tattoo were super beta moves for a supposedly super alpha man. But she had him over a barrel. The 10 year mark is a major milestone for chicks married to high-earning men when there's a pre-nup, so without one, she's golden. Supposedly Kobe STILL didn't keep his dick in his pants, and she's in a position where she doesn't have to swallow hard a second time.
If he was smart with what he earned to this point, the divorce won't kill him. The fucked up part is he's at the end of his career - he doesn't have another long-term, max money contract coming. This is generally what athlete's wives do - they hang in throughout the career when the checks are coming in strong. When the end is near, or shortly after he retires, they cash out and take at least half of whatever is left. If he's not in a position to walk into a high-paying media gig or have a business set up, he ends up dead broke in a few years because there's still child support and his own living expenses (which will still be high, because it's hard to give up that lifestyle). My guess is this won't happen to Kobe, but he NEVER should have married her, or at least not at the age he did.
You hit the nail absolutely on the head! Why on earth would he marry a aspiring video hoe anyway?? I mean, wasn't she auditioning for a Snoop video when he met her?? Any girl at that shoot should've been considered slut material just for being there! His arrogance is is why he's in this mess. Not listening to his parents, and believing that his dick and fame would be enough to keep her forever in love with her! The only excuse I give him was that he was quite young when he met her. We've all made our mistakes during our youth.
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(12-17-2011 04:16 AM)PseudoExpert Wrote: Guys,you should calm down.Do you think Kobe gives a fuck whether he has 100 or 200 mil ?How would that make any difference in his life?If you ask a woman for a pre-nup,that's a huge offense and I think every woman that has some dignity,will leave at this point.That's pretty much saying "I want to make sure you're not a gold digger".
There's no magic formula for success and happiness.You take some decisions,they lead you somewhere,take more decisions...
If you fuck around until your forties and then settle,when your son/daughter is finishing high school,you'll be 60.How cool is that?Different people have different views of life and different goals so you can just respect them or say "Oh,no,idiot,he should've ..."-it's his life,man :/
Actually, he should've just lied and told her that there were clauses in his salary or endorsement contracts that made it mandatory for him to sign a pre-nupt. At 18, She wouldn't have known the difference, and neither would her parents. There are all kinds of clauses that go along with these multi-million dollar agreements.
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RE: Kobe Goes to the Cleaners
(12-20-2011 05:56 PM)houston Wrote: (12-19-2011 07:42 PM)Timoteo Wrote: http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/kobe-...ter-121811
A chick sportswriter's take on Kobe/Vanessa....typical of how a female would see things.
Wow. She said Vanessa earned this money.
It's funny. She acknowledged that Vanessa probably had all the help money could buy, but in the next breath says she, and other women EARN that money, and that it isn't HIS money, it's THEIR money, though Vanessa hasn't earned a cent in her life. Just for being with a man and "enduring" his infidelities, she's earned millions. PLEASE. She's lived the life of a royal, with anything and everything provided for her. If things were so bad, she'd have cashed out after the humiliation of Colorado. But she made the decision to stay in until the 10 year mark for a reason.
Donald Trump was even smarter in his second marriage. He had in the pre-nup certain escalators. If they divorced after the 5 year mark, she'd get a certain amount. If she made it to 10 years, another amount, etc. He left himself outs. They were married in '93, and he filed for divorce in '97, short of the 5 year mark. Once he knew it wasn't working for him, he got out, and she got LESS than $5 million. Of course, she tried to challenge the pre-nup, but she got squashed. She gets child support for their daughter, and considering his worth, it's substantial. But all things considered, she got pennies. But don't tell me she "earned" it by spending a rich guy's money for a few years and having a baby that she gets help taking care of.
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(12-20-2011 06:44 PM)Timoteo Wrote: Donald Trump was even smarter in his second marriage. He had in the pre-nup certain escalators. If they divorced after the 5 year mark, she'd get a certain amount. If she made it to 10 years, another amount, etc. He left himself outs. They were married in '93, and he filed for divorce in '97, short of the 5 year mark. Once he knew it wasn't working for him, he got out, and she got LESS than $5 million. Of course, she tried to challenge the pre-nup, but she got squashed.
This retired partner at a major (top 5) American law firm successfully applied a very similar strategy.
Long story short: He retired from the firm with a net worth in the tens of millions and annual retirement income of $1.8 million. He married a Brazilian model and jumped ship when things weren't working out. She left with only $50,000 thanks to a strong pre-nup with dated escalators. All of her challenges failed as well.
Like I said in another thread, guys: marry late and get a strong, ironclad pre-nup in a state that respects them. That's as safe as you'll get in the USA. Don't get shamed into "marrying for love" and going into a legal marital union unprotected, unless of course you would like to end up like Kobe.
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RE: Kobe Goes to the Cleaners
(12-21-2011 08:32 PM)UrbanNerd Wrote: (12-20-2011 01:29 PM)joehoya Wrote: It is funny finding out what happens to these chicks AFTER they leave their rich husbands.
Remember Eddie Murphy's fine ass wife Nicole? When she divorced Eddie, she took him for $15 million. The end result? The dumb bitch SPENT ALL OF IT in just 4 fucking years. Not only that. The bitch actually owed the IRS over $800K and her lawyers another $600K.
So what does a chick with no skills other than being fine do? She hooks up with another famous dude. Now that she is older, and other guys have seen how she will take them to the cleaners, she can't pull a guy of Eddie Murphy's caliber. She has to settle for Michael Strahan.
Don't quote me on this but I thought I remembered Nicole saying something about Eddie's pre-nup being "iron clad" (her exact words). Yes, she got 15 mil, but she was definitely complaining about his pre-nup.
...or maybe it was another ex-wife of a celeb in the magazine.
One of Eddie's funniest stage routines was about when Johnny Carson had to cough up several hundred million in his divorce. He was engaged at that time to a fine Puerto Rican chick, but when he saw what that divorce cost (half of Carson's worth), he called it off. He talked about going to Africa to find a "buck-naked zebra bitch with a bone in her nose and a plate in her lip" who didn't know who he was, so he could bring her back and marry her. He also joked about how American bitches would get in her ear while he was at work, and next tihng you know she'd be complaining about how bad she was being treated, and demand half...HA HA! He was joking then, but he was dead serious. Nicole dropped 4 kids for him, but he still wasn't trying to give her half. If she couldn't manage the $15 million, fuck her. She deserves to be broke. His kids will always be taken care of, but mommy should be on her own.
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RE: Kobe Goes to the Cleaners
(12-17-2011 12:42 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote: (12-17-2011 01:04 AM)Timoteo Wrote: (12-17-2011 12:50 AM)NumberTen Wrote: IMO Kobe's mistake wasn't in foregoing the pre-nup, it was his getting married in the first place - see Derek Jeter for a stellar example of how to do it right
Yes. Magic did it the next best way - wait until you're at the end of your career (hopefully HIV free...HA HA!). A lot of these guys marry the high school/college sweetheart because they were there "when I had nothing." That might be true for the high school sweetheart, but not the ones that latch on in college. Everyone knows who's got the chance to go pro. I live in NY, so I've watched Derek his whole career. He's done it perfectly. He's dated/banged top notch singers, actresses, beauty queens, you name it. No dirt has gotten out, and he's generally moved on to the next honey. He's building a MASSIVE mansion just off the coast of Tampa, and at some point he'll probably marry and fill it with kids. And the bulk of his earnings and assets will have been acquired before marriage.
Couldn't agree more about Jeter; he's the paragon of pro athlete behavior with respect to women. It's crazy when you think about how long his run has been. I remember waaay back in the day when he was dating Jordana Brewster. He's had all kinds of talent since, publicly and privately.
Kobe met his wife AFTER he was already well-known as a Laker. I don't really see what she brought to the table honestly. She didn't seem like she had a whole lot going on for herself, aside from her looks (which isn't the best Kobe could do anyway).
If I know at 21 what I know now...I would have done many many things differently. I'm sure it's the same for most.
I think we can cut Kobe some slack, he was very young when he made that decision. Besides, Kobe is the ultimate alpha...nobody is going to talk any sense into him when he's hellbent on something. I definitely respect that about him.
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(12-17-2011 04:15 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote: (12-17-2011 01:09 PM)MiXX Wrote: Superstar athletes/celebrities have always been alpha men in their respective field, but EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM HAS BEEN A BETA BITCH IN THE PRESENCE OF A WOMAN!!:
JORDAN, TYSON, BRYANT, HUMPHRIES, IRVING, DIDDY, NAZ......I CAN GO ON ALL DAY DROPPING NAMES!!
Mixx
Jay-Z is the exception. He's the ultimate alpha male rapper. Ended up marrying a chick who brought just as much, if not more, to the table.
Jay-Z married a hardcore feminist who has been defaming men for over a decade. Not to mention she's a fat ass...
He couldn't do better?
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