Post: #2851

(06-22-2016 09:35 PM)redbeard Wrote:  I was at the gym, doing some pullups, when a sexy, curly-haired, hispanic girl with a fat ass comes up to use the cables beside me. She was working hard, and after finishing her set she dropped the weights and seemed to fall asleep on the station.

I don't usually run gym game, but just said "yeahhh! gettin it!" to see if she would respond...she pulled her headphones off and started talking to me. The approach went well, she asked for my name within 2 minutes, we chat about gym bullshit and are having a good time. Towards the end she was talking about how she usually puts up a "bitch shield" to keep guys from spitting game at her, and that all the guys were probably pissed at me for talking to her. Then I went for it:

RB: how pissed would they be if I asked to get a drink with you sometime
HB: ooooh I would like to...but I'm kind of talking to somebody right now
RB: not a boyfriend? just talking?
HB: well you know haha I would go with you but I believe in karma and don't want to mess up
RB: so you believe in karma, you know it'll be a good time.
HB: I don't know...
RB: OK how about this. I need to go do some dips. I don't have my phone on me. You take my number, text me if you want, if not, it's cool.
HB: OK

I actually didn't have my phone on me, and I wanted to get to my workout, so this was kind of a last ditch. Anything else I could have done differently? We were really vibing, she was probably nervous getting hit on in front of all these people.

Looks like a pretty solid intereaction.
I haven't gamed in America in over 2 years so maybe I'm not the best to speak on gaming American girls but I feel like this
"RB: how pissed would they be if I asked to get a drink with you sometime" would have had better results if you said something like this:
"I usually keep my bitch shields up in the gym to, luckily I lowered it for you though: inserts smirk: How pissed off do you think they are going to be when they see us exchange numbers?"
I remember having to be more dominate and less passive when gaming American broads.... The whole interaction should be playful and like you could care less either way what happens.
You know its easy for someone to sit her an look at what someone says an then pick it apart but different guys and personalities run different game. You had a good interaction, you just have to do whatever you feel the most comfortable doing. What works for some might not work for others.

Game on player

Post: #2852

Fuck I'm an idiot sometimes. I was leaving the grocery store and dropping off my cart as I exited the building, this attractive blonde HB8 in yoga pants walks in behind the employee returning the carts and is waiting to get one for herself. I drop mine off right behind her, she turns and says "Oh I can take yours". I give her a smile and pick my bags up out of the cart and say "Sure but it doesn't roll very well." She says "I guess I should wait for another one then." She's smiling at me, body turned fully towards me and away from the carts, very available to interact with. What do I do? Smile and walk out the door.

Honestly I was so surprised she was interested and receptive, plus I was in a bit of a hurry to get home, I just didn't know what to do. Similar things have been happening to me recently, I think I'm more aware of it and I'm garnering more attention from working out regularly and dressing well. I take it as a learning lesson and try to remember to always be available for the approach even when I'm not expecting it.

Post: #2853

Was on reserve duty this week.
Walked out of the compound and notice a 20 years old 5'11 HB8 doing guard duty (access control).
She was reading a book.
Opened with the elderly opener:"What book are you reading?"
It was a popular science book about evolution.
Picked up the thread, planted my feet ant talked with her.
She was happy to talk to me, and was surprised at how much I knew about the topic.
Told her:"Keep up the complements. I'm good with it"

Then 2 of her friends came.
I had to entertain them all - teased, asked questions and kept it light. Could not isolate, as she was on duty there.
Finally one of the friends left.

Ignored the target and engaged the potential cockblock. Teased, asked questions and even gave some compliments.
This while light touching my target every now and then (and keeping her in the conversation, but 30% of it).

It was almost 45 minutes before I played the "Man of the world" card.
Me: "Do you do interesting things?"
HB8: "Hardly. It is a problem"
Me: "Do you go to meetups?"
HB8: "What's that?"
I explain about the concept, showed her a few interesting ones and then made my move.
Me: "Put your number in my phone (looking directly at her). I'll take you out to a meetup, otherwise you won't do it"
HB8 (blushing): "OK". inserts digits.
I call her on the spot.
once her phone rings:
Me: "Register the number. You need it for interesting times. You don't have enough of it in your life"
HB8 (blushing again).

My concern - the potential cockblock was staring at her, and trying to hint her not to.
Engaged the cockblock: "I'll send her some interesting meetups from your area" (she leaves in a different part of the country.

Time will tell.

Post: #2854

University campus, I walk alongside a sexy latina..

me: I like your sky blue shoes
her: oh thank you
me: they look comfy
her: oh they're super comfy
me: ya that's a good brand of shoes
her: i walk alot so i need good shoes
me: well you were smart for getting those
her: aw thanks
me: what do u study?
her: psychology?
me: oh shit, mind games. fascinating!
her: haha

We walk and talk for a minute. I tell her about some of the world class museums in the city.

me: ya go to their website and see when the "student days" are.. dont forget your student body card
her: thats awesome thank you
me: you're welcome, nice meeting you
her: ya you too
me: ummm what are u doing right now? wanna hang out?
her: im actually engaged

Next!

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University campus, I see a sexy and stylish white girl.

me: I love your jacket, is that from Zara?
her: lol no its from anthropoligie
me: ooh ya i knew it was somewhere cool
her: hehe
me: are u a fashion design major?
her: lol no marketing
me: marketing is fascinating
her: i agree
me: i once cancel my cable television but do u know what i missed?
her: what?
me: the commercials
her: really?
me: ya commercials are fascinating to me cause they show me how big business is trying to influence my mind.
her: interesting?
me: i learn a lot about business and culture just by watching commercial.. every football game is filled with viagra commercials so i know that guys are masturbating too much, for example
her: omg thats hilarious
me: i love commercials lol

We chat for a minute.

me: we should hang out sometime
her: oh thats funny but unfortunately im with someone right now
me: unfortunately?
her: or fortunately for me


Next!

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University Campus, I see a sexy, young, white girl walking.. I catch up to her at a red light..

Her backpack says something in German..

me: is that swedish?
her: oh i think its german
me: thats a cool bag, did u get it in europe
her: no they sell them everywhere, i got this at target
me: oh lol

We cross the street together.

me: how are your finals going?
her: oh im finished thank god
me: congratulations, time to celebrate
her: time for a nap
me: lol ya napping is a good way to start
her: yes it is
me: well you enjoy that nap
her: thanks i will
me: what are you doing this weekend?
her: just chillin
me: wanna get a drink or something?
her: oh ummmmm
me: only if your single and trying to mingle
her: um ya sure

Took her number.

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At the mall food court, I see a beautiful, slim, young latina with a round ass... She just ordered her food.... I walk up and pretend to be looking at the menu...

me: what did u get?
her: oh I got the okra curry
me: thats sounds amazing, no meat right
her: ya its vegetarian
me: I might try that, I'm looking for something new
her: its really good
me: cool thanks

She walked off. I ordered my food.

She went and sat down with a friend. I ate my food quickly.

I walked overt o her table...

me: the okra curry was great, thanks for the recommendation
her: sure
me: wow you guys got some good stuff
her: ya this is our spot

We chatted about food for a minute.

me: hey do u hang out sometime
her: oh I'm in high school

Next!

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At the gym, I see a beautiful, filapina girl with a banging body.. She is looking at drinks in the snack bar... I walk by..

me: you don't know what you want
her: haha ya I can't decide
me: what is that stuff
her: oh its like a caffeine drink
me: why don't u just get coffee
her: ya I used to do that
me: does that stuff work?
her: It does but I think its just a placebo effect
me: ha well placebo is real if it works
her: haha

We chatted for a minute.

me: hey when do u wanna flirt again?
her: haha I don't know
me: lets go out for coffee sometime
her: maybe if I see you around
me: can I text you?
her: I don't give my number out the first time but I'll see you

Next!

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At the mall, I see a sexy, little, blond with with a beautiful face and a flawless, young, body...

She is wearing yoga gear..

me: how was your workout?
her: oh pretty good
me: did u do pilates or something?
her; no just like some cardio
me: oh you have an awesome body
her: hehe
me: u from around here?
her: yes
me: me too, im gio
her: hi, nice to meet you but i kinda gotta run

Next!

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At the mall, I see a sexy, black girl walking.. Her shoe is partly untied...

me: hey your shoe is untied
her: oh thx
me: ur welcome

me: hey can i ask you something?
her: sure
me: would u ever date a guy like me?
her: lol what do u mean?
me: u know, would u date a white guy?
her: umm i mean ya maybe
me: my name is gio
her: hi
me: whats yours
her: nicole

We chatted for a minute.

me: lets hang out sometime
her: maybe

Got her number.

Post: #2855

I get my ass out for yoga this morning. Head in, there's 2 very cute blonde girls, classic Eastern European descent type looks. Decide I have to approach one of them after class. One is next to me, slightly tall but nice and thin with a nice butt. Minor tattoo on ankle and minor tattoo on slender arm. The other shorter one has more baggyish pants but what looks to be an even better ass, and very slim waste/arms/frame. As class goes on I notice her practice is also better than the other girl.

It's a tough class. The teacher is a cool dude who knows me, and often calls me out when I pull off something challenging that he incorporates. This happens towards the end.

After class I'm putting my blocks away and I look up and the target is right in front of me with a warm smile. She has beautiful green/grey eyes, and hold eye contact with me for a couple seconds. I have to open this girl.

I take time my getting out of there so that I'm in the hall pretending to look for something in my bag when she comes out. She does, and then OPENS ME:

her: that was really cool you were able to do that thing
me: thanks. I think I may have suggested that move a while back and he showed us how to do it, but i couldn't do it then. Never really done it before today

She's pleasant and engaged with the conversation so I start to slowly walk out down the hall and lead her while turning around to maintain eye contact while she follows.
We go out and down the block while having pleasant conversation and I walk in the opposite direction of my car (its not a city where a lot of people drive) in order to get in a little more time talking.
I know my time is limited so I steer the conversation away from yoga. We exchange names and shake. She's been in the neighborhood a few years, and started going to this studio just a few months ago. Lives a few blocks away. We joke around a little and she tells me a bit about what she does.

We hit a corner where I know she has to turn and I tell her I have to head up the other way. I pull out my phone.

Me: we should continue this some other time. Why don't you give me your number?

She takes the phone but I can already feel it coming.

Her: Just to be totally clear, I have a partner (lesbian? politically correct? IDFK!!!)
Me: that's cool.

Then I spew some shit about how it's good to know people in the neighborhood and blah blah.

Her: how do i save the number in here?

She figures it out and I say something about her area code. She's from a state where people are very nice. We exchange pleasantries again and go our separate ways.

Post: #2856

I walked down the street to the park on my lunch break today to read and get some sun. There's a cute, thin, young blonde sitting in the grass maybe 50 feet away, she's reading and on her phone and occasionally getting up to go interact with an active 3-year old boy playing in the park then sitting back down in the grass. I walk near her as I'm leaving:

Me: He keeps you busy I see.
Her: Yeah
Me: Yeah I saw him pulling up the lawn flags and playing with those other kids.
Her: Yeah, uh huh
Me: Little brother?
Her: I'm his babysitter
Me: Oh cool, do you watch him all the time?
Her: Some, I was watching him during the school year and it's carried over into the summer.
Me: I see. I work nearby and come here a lot on my lunch break.
Her: Ok
Me: Alright, well have a good day.
Her: Yeah you too.

I should have asked her about school to try to keep the conversation going. She was looking up at me but also looking off at the kid a lot after she'd answer me, was polite but didn't seem interested. She was probably 20 years younger than me. I need to get better at pushing for rejection rather than just giving up.

Post: #2857

I went to festival at a nearby farm. At lunch time I passed a bench with two girls sitting, one a 9 and another 7-8. I opened by asking if they were coming from the same town as me which turned out to be the case. I joined them without asking for permission. We talked quite a bit but about every day stuff. They asked me quite a number of questions. As I was finishing my lunch and they seemed to wanted to leave I went for "You guys seem cool we should meet for a drink sometime". They said yeah and then the 9 mentioned she wanted to take her food for her BF. I didn't know what to do, without sounding desperate. the other girl said something like "we may see you on campus sometime". Could I have closed?

Post: #2858

Summer time, I'm single, I'm is shape, I'm going hard!

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At the store, I spot a sexy young asian girl in yoga pants...

She is looking at rice...

I walk over and pretend to look at rice....

me: I just bought a fancy rice cooker, its amazing, cooks white or brown rice perfect everytime
her: really?
me: yes, it was like 75 bucks, its like a restaurant level rice cooker, so freeking easy, just push a button, I just wanted to tell u cause I see your getting rice
her: no, thank for telling me, I have a little like 20 dollar rice cooker and it works fine but hearing about yours is interesting. I'm asian so we make rice alot lol
me: lol I used to make it in an old fashioned pot, I never made it right, im seriously so happy that I got this fancy rice cooker. What nationality are you?
her: filapina and hawaiian
me: cool mix, ur really pretty, just being honest
her: hehe thanks
me: u live around here?
her: ya over by the beach
me: cool

We chatted for a minute.

me: hey wanna talk again sometime, maybe get coffee or something?
her: omg Im flattered but I have a

Next!

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Driving in my car, I see a cute, young asian girl walking down the street..

I park my car and follow her into a store...

I find her in the paper and pen section... I walk up, pretending to be looking at paper..

me: hey i like your sweater, very futuristic
her: oh thank you
me: are you a fashion student
her: oh hehe no i just graduated high school
me: oh what school
her: west san francisco high
me: thats a good school, how is ur summer going?
her: so far, so good

We chatted for a minute.

me: I like ur style.. wanna exchange numbers and hang out sometime?
her: oh no sorry

Next!

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At the mall, I see a hot, young blond in yogas..

She is walking right towards me..

me: do u ever eat at this mall? whats good here?
her: umm ya, jeez let me think, i don't know actually
me: oh are you new in town
her: well im just here for summer
me: oh hows it going so far
her: a little cold over here but i like it
me: where d u live?
her: i go to school in sacramento
me: oh ya its hot up there
her: yes
me: welcome to san francisco, do u have any questions
her: oh i mean not really

We chat for a minute.

me: wanna go out for coffee sometime
her: um no but thanks for asking

Next!

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At the store, I see a sexy, young asian girl with a hot body

She is looking at rice..

I walk over and grab a bag of rice..

me: I just bought an amazing rice cooker
her: really

I told her all about my new rice cooker

her: cool thanks

I walked away.

After a few minutes, I see her again in another part of the store.

me: hey I know this is like kind of forward but you look great
her: oh thanks
me: r u from around here?
her: no i live in Seattle, im just here for summer
me: oh cool, how u like it?

blah, blah, blah..

me: wanna hang out sometime?
her: oh jeez im only 19
me: how old am I?
her: umm I don't know
me: take a guess
her: no i hate guessing
me: im 31
her: ohh
me: do u wanna maybe go out sometime, I can show you the places around here
her: no thanks

Next!

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At the mall, I spot a stunning white girl, flawless skin, beautiful face, hot body..

She enters a yoga store...

I wait for her outside...

She comes out..

me: hey oh my gosh im so embarrassed but i wanted to come say hello, u look great
her: thank you

She started walking away.

I let her go.

Next!

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At a major park filled with tourists and office workers on their lunch break, I see 2 hot, young latinas..

I have my shirt off and I'm smoking a joint..

They look at me..

I wave my hand and motion for them to come over..

They stop and look at me but they don't come over...

I wave my hand again and motion for them to come sit with me..

They laugh and giggle flirtatiously but they don't come over..

I wait like 5 minutes and smoke my joint while sitting in the sun with my shirt off...

They look over at me, I look over at them...

I walk over, shirt off, not giving a fuck...

me: how are you girls today?
her: good
me: dont worry, im not a creeper, i just wanted to come say hi,
her: oh ok
me: u look great and if i didnt say hi and at least try, u know, i would feel like a pussy
her: lol i respect ur effort
me: ha thanks, i think we night have some chemistry
her: lol i dont know

We talk for a minute.

me: do u wanna exchange numbers
her: i don't think so but I really respect your confidence for trying

Next!

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At the mall, I see a stunning mixed black girl, easily a 9, amazing body, perfect skin, gorgueos face..

me: youre soo pretty
her: thank you
me: where are u from?
her: germany
me: deushland
her: ha yeah
me: what r u doing in san francisco?
her: vacation
me: wow how do u like it?
her: i like it
me: do u have any questions
her: umm i don't know

Her friend came over to take her away.

me: lets exchange emails
her: no thank you

Next!

Post: #2859

Great approaches Gio! I like that you are approaching all high quality chicks, that is good for the soul.

I have a story from yesterday.

I was walking down a sidewalk sunglasses on working on my posture and gracefulness of my walk in general, a student girl walks by. She looks about 23. She glances up and checks me out. I have slowed down on approaches lately, could not pass up being check out.

I turn and chase her down with a "hello".

I guess why she is around here. I keep rambling. She seems somewhat anxious. Finally she blurts out she is in high school visiting for an intern program and she didn't want to scare me. She is 16!

I let out an "Oh Shit!" and immediately say, you look 23 or 24! I start walking away in a flash as she says "have a good summer!".

Post: #2860

(06-30-2016 02:51 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  me: wanna hang out sometime?
her: oh jeez im only 19
me: how old am I?
her: umm I don't know
me: take a guess
her: no i hate guessing
me: im 31
her: ohh
me: do u wanna maybe go out sometime, I can show you the places around here
her: no thanks

I think it was Tom Torero who had a great response to this I saw once
"I'm only 18"
"That's ok. I'm only 19. I've had some surgery." Smiled and steered the convo elsewhere and allegedly got the bang.

I'm feeling bittersweet at the moment, just got a number from gorgeous young Carribean (I think) girl, and then got cockblocked at the last minute. DC area for work, getting a smoothie after work with an occasional coworker, sweaty, in dirty construction clothes and saw a cutie at the counter from the corner of my eye. Was bantering playfully with the counter girl throughout - paid by card she started to ask name for order then looked at card and said, "Gorgiass". "Oh my god, how did you know that?" etc. Guy I was with took a table, I washed hands and sat at counter around corner/next to her, she was facing away slightly - thin, caramel skin, dressed up.

"Late lunch or early dinner?"
She turns and smiles "I guess late lunch, how about you?"
Pretty thick accent, little tough to understand her "Oh I don't know, early dinner maybe? But I'm probably going to have a real dinner later too. What do you call the meal between lunch and dinner?"
Chatted for a few minutes, she didn't work, was in college, visiting a friend in the city, told my story, here for work, live in xxx, etc. All smiles, good body language, asked how long she was in town for
"I live here, like 20 mins away"
"Oh cool. Can I buy you a smoothie sometime?"
Reaches in her purse "I can give you my number"
"Sure, what's your name btw." xxx "I'll let you enter that I'd mess up the spelling"
She does, and then calls herself from my phone, good sign.

5-10 people standing there pretending not to watch like "is this grungy construction worker really going to get this hottie's digits?" Kid who brought my sandwich over was grinning ear to ear. Great feeling.

Occasional coworker I came in with is standing there with his smoothie so I'm like "Nice to meet you" You too, shake hands smiling "I'll talk to you later" And as I'm walking away this moron leans back and goes "Don't call him!" like he thought it would be funny. So now either I'm getting a smoothie with a social retard who thinks cockblocking is funny, or he knows something she doesn't and that's echoing around in her head as I walk away.

No response yet, we'll see. Good times either way, and next time I'm picking my crew...he ain't gonna be on it.

Post: #2861

^ What a bitch of a supposed man, that guy.

Good fucking riddance. Someone that is going to down you at the moment of success.

Post: #2862

Just reading that sentence it can seem playful, depending on how he said it.

Often me or a friend would hit on a girl and wed say stuff like that in a teasing manner, it makes a fun playful vibe. Or was he a total stiff retard about it?

I do think he shouldnt be involved before you choose to introduce him though


Gio youre a trooper, good job on putting yourself out there, but doesnt seem like the conversations have anything to pull the girl? It all seems to just be stagnant without much substance

Post: #2863

Know what you're saying, although I'm not sure that particular phrase could ever be useful in advancing attraction and I would never end on a negative note like that. Yea, he walked over and stood sort of by me looking away without saying anything up until this point, said it in his usual gruff tone and walked off. Setting a playful frame and smiling would be a different matter.

Actually, related bro-humor semi-approach - about an hour beforehand we were riding the freight elevator and a pretty cute Mexican chica from the drywall crew (only trade I've ever seen have any bangable girls on a job site other than administrative) got on the elevator and to his credit this dude made a lame attempt at hitting on her, asking her which floor "Lobby again?" and then her name before an awkward pause. I jumped in with some banter about our work keeping them cooler then,"Drywall crews get all the cute coworkers, I'm stuck with this guy" said with a smile and chinup nod, obvious joshing. She laughed and blushed and then we were at her floor. Afterwards I said "Not a bad looking girl" and he goes "Yea, I've been working on her" and I kinda laughed and said "Oh yeah?" because it was obvious he would never get the pussy at the rate he was going.

Might've been an incredibly awkward attempt at humor or just a "misery loves company". Either way, going to have a talk and tell him to watch with his mouth closed if I have to be out with him again, stuck with him for a month or so here.

Post: #2864

(07-01-2016 05:07 AM)Beirut Wrote:  Gio youre a trooper, good job on putting yourself out there, but doesn't seem like the conversations have anything to pull the girl?

It all seems to just be stagnant without much substance

I agree!

Thank you for being honest with me.

What can I do to improve???

**********

Some recent approaches...

At the store, I see a cute Portugese looking girl, she is looking at fruit..

I walk by...

me: I wouldn't buy fruit from here
her: no? why?
me: its low quality and way over priced
her: ya i was thinking the same thing
me: u can go to the whole foods around the corner and get much better quality
her: really?
me: yes
her: thank you
me: ur welcome

Blah, blah..

me: where u from?
her: spain
me: bienvenidos
her: gracias
me: do u wanna hang out?
her: hehe thanks but im with someone

Next!

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I saw a sexy black girl, decent face but hot body..

me: hey u look nice
her: thank u

Blah, blah..

me: can I text u sometime and try to flirt with u
her: haha ok

Got her number.

She never responded.

Next!

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At the mall, I see a young, beautiful "Victoria's Secret" looking white blond, spectacular face and body, easily a 9!


me: excuse me, you look great, I had to say hello
her: oh hehe hi

She started walking away..

me: hey ummmm

She walked away.

Next!

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Walking down the street, I saw a hot, little, white girl in yoga pants and a little tank top! Wow, what a hard, young, body!

She is holding a shopping bag..

I walk alongside as we arrive at a red light!

me: where is that store?
her: oh its just over there
me: ok thanks, I love that store, the style is so interesting
her: yes it is

We talked about interior design, aesthetics, ambience, etc. for a few minutes.

her: I'm from new zealand
me: wow a kiwi
her: hehe yes
me: well, do u need a tour guide to show u around ?
her: oh my goodness, well, im only 18
me: really? i though u were like 22
her: hehe
me: im just a little older than you but maybe it would fun to try and hang out sometime
her: im really flattered but im sorry
me: u seem like you are thinking about it? anything you wanna ask me?
her: no its okay

She started walking away.

She looked back.

me: hey are you sure? lets try
her: no its okay.

I think her pussy got a little wet but it scared her cause I'm much older than her.

Next!

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At the mall, I see a sexy, young asian girl looking at clothes, she gives me some good eye contact and we hold it for a second or two.. A few minutes later, I walk back over towards her and find her talking on the phone... I wait another minute but she is still talking on the phone...

I talk out my phone and compose a text..

my text: "hi my name is gio, you look great, wanna go out for coffee ?"

I walk over, smile, and show her my phone.

her: hehe sorry I have a bf

Next!

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4 minutes later, in the same store (H&M), I see another sexy, young asian girl in tight clothes with a hot body..

I walk by..

me: how how are you?
her: hi, im good
me: we sort of made eye contact over there and I hate to be so forward but you look great, can I flirt with you for a minute?
her: oh hehe I'm really flattered but I'm engaged

Next!

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Driving in my car with my shirt off, I see a sexy latina looking at me..

Stuck in traffic, with my window down, I smile and motion for her to roll her window down.. She does..

I hold up my phone and say in my strong, outside voice..

me: hey, whats ur number, lets chat and see how the chemistry is
her: oh hehe I have a man
me: you can keep him, I just wanna be your side dish
her: hahaha thats funny
me: lets try it
her: I don't know, sorry


The light turned green.

Next!

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At a big park filled with party people, I see 2 slim black girls walking together..

I walk alongside..

me: ooh hello, I wanna make an oreo cookie with you guys
her: what hehe
me: I would never disrespect you but I'm just saying, I would totally try it with you two
her: ha thats ok

Next!

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5 minutes later, at the same park, I see a beautiful, fit, white, blond doing yoga with a chinese guy filming her.. I walk over..

me: hey whats going on here, some sort of a fitness video
him: oh hi yes she does classes and stuff
me: cool

me: I am expert in this stuff haha
her: oh really

me: what kind of classes do you do?
her: well I offer a free class in the mornings and if you want to join my email list I can let you know of the various classes and events that I work with..
me: oh okay where are you from?
her: dallas, texas originally but Ive been out here for a few years
me: you like it?
her: I love it

We chat and health and vitality for a minute..

me: well, to be honest, I'm curious about your spiritual, fitness vibe and maybe we can talk more about it sometime
her: oh
me: ya do you have like a personal phone were I can maybe text you later or something?
her: um i'm not really looking for anything like that right now

Next!

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(06-30-2016 06:37 PM)Gorgiass Wrote:  "I'm only 18"

"That's ok. I'm only 19. I've had some surgery."

I will add that to my verbal toolbox.

Post: #2865

Gio, how long do your interactions usually go?

Day Bang, if I recall correctly, suggests getting some solid 15 minute banter. Some of your approaches look like you talk about the opener (fitness, classes, finals, groceries) and then dive into going for the phone #. No segway into personal topics, no waiting till she asks a question about you, no bait-dropping, etc. In your case, this could be getting lost in the "yada yada."

I'd be curious to see how much relationship there is between interaction length and sex. My daygame experience is *tiny* compared to yours, but for me whenever I can talk to a girl for a long time (10-15 minutes) the chances of phone number, date, and bang are much higher. We naturally connect, enjoy eachother's company. If we're laughing and enjoying the talk, it's super natural for me to go "hey I have to get going, I somewhere to be, let's get a drink sometime and keep this going."

Post: #2866

(07-04-2016 01:38 PM)redbeard Wrote:  Gio, how long do your interactions usually go?

Anywhere from 2 minutes to 10 minutes depending on the flow of the conversation.

(07-04-2016 01:38 PM)redbeard Wrote:  Some of your approaches look like you talk about the opener (fitness, classes, finals, groceries) and then dive into going for the phone #.

No segway into personal topics, no waiting till she asks a question about you, no bait-dropping, etc.

I think you are right!

Your senses are correct!

I need to do a bit more "bait dropping", segway-ing into personal topics, waiting for her to ask a personal question, etc.

I need to be a little more patient maybe...

(07-04-2016 01:38 PM)redbeard Wrote:  whenever I can talk to a girl for a long time (10-15 minutes) the chances of phone number, date, and bang are much higher. We naturally connect, enjoy eachother's company. If we're laughing and enjoying the talk, it's super natural for me to go "hey I have to get going, I somewhere to be, let's get a drink sometime and keep this going."

I love it!

Thanks for the solid advice!

Post: #2867

My daygame interactions tend to be 5-20 minutes depending on how well they're going -- after 10 mins you're obviously looking for an instadate or later that night.

Love your energy Gio!

Post: #2868

Watching American Gangster and the scene in the club where Frank meets Eva is a classic demonstration of DHV. Watch the whole scene but this interchange is great:

Eva: You're Frank and this is your place?

Frank Lucas: That's right. I'm Frank and this is my place.

Eva: Why is it called Small's? Why don't you call it Frank's?

Frank Lucas: When you own something, you can call it what you want. "

No bragging, no listen to how great I am, how rich, how hip, not wearing a flashy suit, doesn't get angry at her questions, gives her *his* answer so she knows the score.

Watch the whole scene.

Post: #2869

In Poland, I approach a biological freak..a girl super tall, towering over me and my 6 3" friend. She's wearing heals but even without them she must have been 6 6" or taller. On top of that she's super lean and aerobicized, wearing tight workout clothes at the club. (Hey it's Poland).

Everyone in the club is afraid of her. I come over and say something like "You don't look like you're from around here either".

"Fuck you, leave me alone" She responded.

Oh well, I still enjoyed myself.

Post: #2870

(07-05-2016 02:45 AM)Pokerbaby Wrote:  In Poland, I approach a biological freak..a girl super tall, towering over me and my 6 3" friend. She's wearing heals but even without them she must have been 6 6" or taller. On top of that she's super lean and aerobicized, wearing tight workout clothes at the club. (Hey it's Poland).

Everyone in the club is afraid of her. I come over and say something like "You don't look like you're from around here either".

"Fuck you, leave me alone" She responded.

Oh well, I still enjoyed myself.

Good for you, she could have punched you.

Post: #2871

Quote:

(07-04-2016 01:19 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  [quote='Beirut' pid='1337689' dateline='1467367676']
Gio youre a trooper, good job on putting yourself out there, but doesn't seem like the conversations have anything to pull the girl?

It all seems to just be stagnant without much substance

I agree!

Thank you for being honest with me.

What can I do to improve???

**********

Some recent approaches...

At the store, I see a cute Portugese looking girl, she is looking at fruit..

I walk by...

me: I wouldn't buy fruit from here
her: no? why?
me: its low quality and way over priced
her: ya i was thinking the same thing
me: u can go to the whole foods around the corner and get much better quality
her: really?
me: yes
her: thank you
me: ur welcome

Blah, blah..

me: where u from?
her: spain
me: bienvenidos
her: gracias
me: do u wanna hang out?
her: hehe thanks but im with someone

Next!

--

I saw a sexy black girl, decent face but hot body..

me: hey u look nice
her: thank u

Blah, blah..

me: can I text u sometime and try to flirt with u
her: haha ok

Got her number.

She never responded.

Next!

--

At the mall, I see a young, beautiful "Victoria's Secret" looking white blond, spectacular face and body, easily a 9!


me: excuse me, you look great, I had to say hello
her: oh hehe hi

She started walking away..

me: hey ummmm

She walked away.

Next!

--

Walking down the street, I saw a hot, little, white girl in yoga pants and a little tank top! Wow, what a hard, young, body!

She is holding a shopping bag..

I walk alongside as we arrive at a red light!

me: where is that store?
her: oh its just over there
me: ok thanks, I love that store, the style is so interesting
her: yes it is

We talked about interior design, aesthetics, ambience, etc. for a few minutes.

her: I'm from new zealand
me: wow a kiwi
her: hehe yes
me: well, do u need a tour guide to show u around ?
her: oh my goodness, well, im only 18
me: really? i though u were like 22
her: hehe
me: im just a little older than you but maybe it would fun to try and hang out sometime
her: im really flattered but im sorry
me: u seem like you are thinking about it? anything you wanna ask me?
her: no its okay

She started walking away.

She looked back.

me: hey are you sure? lets try
her: no its okay.

I think her pussy got a little wet but it scared her cause I'm much older than her.

Next!

--

At the mall, I see a sexy, young asian girl looking at clothes, she gives me some good eye contact and we hold it for a second or two.. A few minutes later, I walk back over towards her and find her talking on the phone... I wait another minute but she is still talking on the phone...

I talk out my phone and compose a text..

my text: "hi my name is gio, you look great, wanna go out for coffee ?"

I walk over, smile, and show her my phone.

her: hehe sorry I have a bf

Next!

--

4 minutes later, in the same store (H&M), I see another sexy, young asian girl in tight clothes with a hot body..

I walk by..

me: how how are you?
her: hi, im good
me: we sort of made eye contact over there and I hate to be so forward but you look great, can I flirt with you for a minute?
her: oh hehe I'm really flattered but I'm engaged

Next!

--

Driving in my car with my shirt off, I see a sexy latina looking at me..

Stuck in traffic, with my window down, I smile and motion for her to roll her window down.. She does..

I hold up my phone and say in my strong, outside voice..

me: hey, whats ur number, lets chat and see how the chemistry is
her: oh hehe I have a man
me: you can keep him, I just wanna be your side dish
her: hahaha thats funny
me: lets try it
her: I don't know, sorry


The light turned green.

Next!

--

At a big park filled with party people, I see 2 slim black girls walking together..

I walk alongside..

me: ooh hello, I wanna make an oreo cookie with you guys
her: what hehe
me: I would never disrespect you but I'm just saying, I would totally try it with you two
her: ha thats ok

Next!

--

5 minutes later, at the same park, I see a beautiful, fit, white, blond doing yoga with a chinese guy filming her.. I walk over..

me: hey whats going on here, some sort of a fitness video
him: oh hi yes she does classes and stuff
me: cool

me: I am expert in this stuff haha
her: oh really

me: what kind of classes do you do?
her: well I offer a free class in the mornings and if you want to join my email list I can let you know of the various classes and events that I work with..
me: oh okay where are you from?
her: dallas, texas originally but Ive been out here for a few years
me: you like it?
her: I love it

We chat and health and vitality for a minute..

me: well, to be honest, I'm curious about your spiritual, fitness vibe and maybe we can talk more about it sometime
her: oh
me: ya do you have like a personal phone were I can maybe text you later or something?
her: um i'm not really looking for anything like that right now

Next!

**********

Gio you are a day game legend and I respect you very much. However I have compared your approches logs from 2012 and recent ones and it seems your success rate dropped significantly. While you were able to get 1 # in 3-4 approches now it takes you much much more.

What i think is you should revised your strategy. While back then you were able to attract girls basicly with your looks and confidence now as you got older you need to bring some diffrent kind of value.

The first thing that hits me in your conversation is that you validate girl for everything she says. Eg.

me: I like your sky blue shoes
her: oh thank you
me: they look comfy
her: oh they're super comfy
me: ya that's a good brand of shoes
her: i walk alot so i need good shoes
me: well you were smart for getting those
her: aw thanks
me: what do u study?
her: psychology?
me: oh shit, mind games. fascinating!
her: haha

I think this is low value behavior. High value men are more sceptical. I cannot see you ever qualify a girl. Qualification is powerful value buidling tool.

Ho can you improve?
- qualify
- more teasing
- DHV stories

Post: #2872

(07-05-2016 10:48 AM)starmaze Wrote:  your success rate dropped

Yes, my last 100 approaches have not produced great results.

Statistically, when compared to my approaches from 2010-2015, they are below average.

This is because:

- I did not approach for nearly 4 months (I had a steady 19yo gf)

- I am just getting warmed up and back into flow

- I am approaching hotter women

- I am approaching wealthier women (approaching above my demographic)

- I look older

Those are the main reasons for my recent dip in productivity.

(07-05-2016 10:48 AM)starmaze Wrote:  While you were able to get 1 # in 3-4 approaches now it takes you much much more.

Yes, to continue my point from above...

4 or 5 years ago, I could still pass for "29", I approached mostly working class college girls, mostly 6s, 7s and an occasional 8..

Now, I look older (early-mid 30s) and I approach the hottest college girls, lots of 8s and 9s..

So, it's been a bit of a struggle.

There is a big learning curve.

But, it's been so much fun! I love the process!

It's fascinating.

(07-05-2016 10:48 AM)starmaze Wrote:  What I think is you should revise your strategy.

Fuck yes!

You are so right!

I've been thinking the same thing!

I'm due for a strategy upgrade!

I always tell other people to upgrade their strategy but its been years since I upgraded mine!

(07-05-2016 10:48 AM)starmaze Wrote:  While back then you were able to attract girls basically with your looks and confidence now as you got older you need to bring some different kind of value.

Well said. Great point!

(07-05-2016 10:48 AM)starmaze Wrote:  The first thing that hits me in your conversation is that you validate girl for everything she says. Eg.

me: I like your sky blue shoes
her: oh thank you
me: they look comfy
her: oh they're super comfy
me: ya that's a good brand of shoes
her: i walk alot so i need good shoes
me: well you were smart for getting those
her: aw thanks
me: what do u study?
her: psychology?
me: oh shit, mind games. fascinating!
her: haha

I think this is low value behavior.

Yup, you are right.

(07-05-2016 10:48 AM)starmaze Wrote:  I cannot see you ever qualify a girl. Qualification is powerful value building tool.

Okay, I'm going to study "qualification" and try to incorporate it into my methodology.

(07-05-2016 10:48 AM)starmaze Wrote:  How can you improve?
- qualify
- more teasing
- DHV stories

This is awesome!

Great stuff Starmaze!

Thanks so much for your honest feedback and advice! You nailed it! You know me as well as anyone! In this case, you know me better than I know myself.. I appreciate your help.

--

Once again, let me remind you guys that my sexual success does not come from having strong game, you can see that my game is average at best. My success comes from approaching in high volume and "playing the numbers game". "My Game Sucks"

Post: #2873

Went out with a new friend from the forum and did 5 approaches.

1. Super cute blond girl, opened direct and she got really happy, turned out to be 15..

2. Just complimented a girl on her style, she looked really young when i got close also.

3. Short girl with big breasts, i liked her and she touched me a lot which was nice. She is getting married on Saturday though.

4. Maybe a 6, she was looking at either me or my friend, i opened didnt go very well, i felt off.

5. Really cute girl, she was looking the other way when i approached and even though i really tried to not scare her, i did. Short talk then she said "nice to meet you" and left.

Wasnt really happy with my performance in any of the approaches, but im glad i opened and its a long time since i opened 5 on the same day. We will go out again on Thursday.

Post: #2874

Warm day, street festival, I was walking down the street..

I took my shirt off because Ive been working out hard..

I see 2 slim, sexy white girls in short shorts walking on the other side of the street.. (early 20's)

The girls look over at me, I motion with my hand and instruct them to come over to my side of the street... They sort of smile but they keep walking..

I turn and follow them one block to a store.. I catch them outside the store...

me: don't worry, Im not a creeper, I just wanna see if me and your friend have some chemistry
her: she has a bf

me: oh u have a bf, is he treating u good?
her: I don't owe u an explanation
me: no you don't but I just thought u looked nice and I wanted to see if maybe you wanted to try to, you know, hang out or something..
her: no thank you

Next!

--

5 minutes later, shirt off, I'm at my car getting some rest and drinking coconut water.. A pretty, white girl with a fit body is walking towards me.. (early 20's)

I stand at a good angle and take a swig off my drink to show my abs..

She gets close..

me: hey would u mind taking a picture for me, I know its random but the light right here is perfect and I need a few good ones for Instagram, I wanna take some before I eat so my stomach looks good, you know?
her: oh haha sure

I hand her my phone.

She takes a few pictures.

me: I really appreciate your help
her: no problem
me: what are u to today?
her: I just got off a plane from new york, been a long day of traveling
me: oh gosh, well I hope u get some good rest
her: Im just going for a walk right now to relax
me: oh good for you, this is a nice place to walk
her: ya I'm just going down to the park and back
me: beautiful, hey I have a joint and bottle of wine here if any of that interests you, you know for the festival and stuff
her: hehe ummm not right now but thank you

We chatted for a minute about travel and photography.

me: hey what are you doing later, wanna hang out of something?
her: oh Im flattered but I have a bf
me: he is treating u well?
her: haha ya he is in new york so its a long distance thing
me: oh well, I don't wanna be the guy makes u cheat on your man but I wont say anything if u dont
her: hehe u know maybe I'll see u around sometime
me: probably not, u should take my number
her: oh gosh, ur funny but I better pass right now, see u next time

Next!

--

Shirt back on, I'm walking down a busy street, I see a beautiful, slim, young, Israeli girl, light eyes and features.. (21 years old)

She crosses the street, I cross at an angle that puts me right in front of her about 3 steps.. I walk in front of her and let her observe me for a minute or two..

A group of people nearly walk into me and I use that as an opportunity to side step, turn my head, and pretend to notice her for the first time..

me: hi how is your shopping going today?
her: hey pretty good
me: this is a cool neighborhood
her: yes it is
me: are u from around here
her: no actually I live out by the bay, you?
me: I live here
her: oh cool
me: I'm just about to go try that place called tastes
her: I hear its really good
me: where do u like t eat around here?

We talked about out favorite restaurants in the neighborhood. We waked like 3 blocks together. Great chat.

Finally, we go our separate ways..

me: do wanna talk again sometime
her: im sorry I have a bf
me: what?
her: great talking to u tho

Next!

--

Shirt off, warm day, I drive into a gas station, I see a sexy, young, asian girl with a nice, toned body, flawless skin and a pretty face.. (20 years old)

She is holding a bag of food.. I stop my car and roll down my window..

me: hey whats for lunch
her: oh its chinese food lol
me: from where?
her: ummm I dont know the name
me: that place right over there?
her: oh yes that one
me: where are u from?
her: im from china

I speak to her in Chinese.

me: ni hao
her: hehe
me: ni hao ma
her: I'm good, u speak chinese?
me: yes
her: hehe
me: wah hung how
her: thats good
me: xie xie
her: haha

me: how long have u been here in America?
her: 1 year
me; you're a student?
her: yes an english student
me: your english is very good
her: thank you

We talk for a minute about her experience in America.

her: I'm going home in 1 month
me: wow maybe we should hang out for like one month until u go home
her: hehe I don't know
me; nothng too serious, we'll just have fun until u go home
her: ha no thank you

Next!

--

2 minutes later, shirt off, I see another sexy, young asian girl pumping gas at the gas station.. I take my shirt off and move my car right next to hers... She looks at me because I have my shirt off and asian girls can't help but to look.. (19/20)

me: hey how are you?
her: hi good
me: so nice out here today
her: yes

Her boyfriend was sitting in the car listening! I never saw him!

She moved away from me.

Next!

--

Shirt on, Driving in my car, I see a 9! Stunning, slim, beautiful, white girl in tight white jeans and a little top, 19 or 20, could be a Victoria's Secret model!

I park my car and jog back towards her..

Every guy on the street is looking at her..

She is walking fast.. I follow behind...

Another guy is also following her, I can tell he wants to approach her also..

I get closer to her, I'm behind her, the other guy is close by..

I wonder how I will open her... She knows she is getting lots of attention...

At the moment of truth, I just say "fuck it' and take my shirt off..

I walk right past with pace and as I'm passing her I say:

me: you're getting a workout today
her: yes, especially in these shoes
me: I dont know how u walk uphill in those heels
her: its not easy trust me
me: are you headed to the park?
her: not exactly, just next to the park
me: oh ok, I thought the park was closed but people keep sneaking in
her: I know, these tourists are so weird
me: haha its a litte creepy.

We chatted for another quick minute.

We got to a fork in the road..

me: hey when can I flirt with you again and take you out for a drink?
her: oh gosh, I gotta run but it was great seeing you.

Next!

--

Shirt on, Leaving the market, I see a beautiful half white/half asian girl in a tight, little dress great body, great face.. (Late 20's)

I'm exiting as she's entering

I wait for her outside as I eat my food.

She exits, I don't look at her, I take a bite of my food..

As soon as she passes me, I say:

me: excuse me
her: yes
me: I love your dress
her: thank you
me: you have a great physique
her: hehe thanks
me: I really hate to flirt with you so aggressively but umm are you available get a drink sometime?
her: oh gosh I have a boyfriend
her: he's treating you well?
me: ya mostly
me: maybe i could be your, ya know, umm
her: #2 option?
me: yes
her: Thanks for asking but I'll have to pass right now

Next!


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I recently banged a new 20 year old!

20 year old, sexy, slim, mixed black girl

Post: #2875

Always glad to see Gio hard at work.

I am having a semi-breakthrough with 18 yr olds. Instadated one last night, was prom queen, she was very excited when I asked her for the Idate. Tomorrow night a slim, busty blonde - meeting in the park. A third one wants to skype with me tonight.

All 3 made it abundantly clear they were into older guys. Well, here I am....

I don't think I'm doing anything different except being confident and showing my interest in any hot girl over 18. I am definitely going out a little more this year than last, so part of it is ultimately a numbers game.