(06-29-2016 06:23 AM)Burn Wrote:  

(06-28-2016 11:41 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  Girl 1 was a waste of time and gas. Brought her to my place at 2 am and all she wanted to do was "cuddle and sleep." Took that bitch right back home. Barely a 6/10. No thanks.

Could you explain how that happened? At which point did you take her home? What did you say?

Got her into my bed, was making moves on her, got her pants off was eating her out and everything, but she laid there like a dead fish and stared at me with blank bug eyes while I was chowing and and sucking on her titties. It was awkward as fuck and about 0% enjoyable. So I called her out and was like "are you always like this in bed?" then she's all "I'm just tiirrreeedddd and drunk lets just cuddle."

I tell her "No lets fuck then cuddle. Thats how it works." The she says lets cuddle then fuck then cuddle again (wtf). So I lay down with her for a minute or two and she is starting to fall asleep right away (I figured). I'll be fucked if I'm going to drive an hour out of my way at 2am just to have some bitch pass out in my bed, so I get up and I tell her I'm not sharing my bed with a girl who I'm not having sex with, so she gets a little emotional and asks if I can bring here home - I tell her to get an uber but her debit card was compromised earlier in the night and she didn't have access to money so I drove her home. Nice quiet awkward 35 drive back to her house.

She kept saying how sorry she was that she didn't realize I 'just wanted sex.' You hit up a guy at 2am that you met once for 20 minutes and jump in his bed and you don't think it's about fucking?

(06-29-2016 06:23 AM)Burn Wrote:  

(06-28-2016 11:41 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  Was actually making plans with the hot 8/10 to hang this week, but she kept on with the crazy shittest questions over text and when I dismissed one of them to get back to her later, she told me "I'm not interested in pursuing this any further. Wish you well." Adios.

What was the shit test question?

Nonstop asking about my promiscuity.

"Do you always go down on girls right after you meet them?"

"Are you just looking for sex?"

"I'm freaking because we had oral sex and I don't know where you've been"

"How often do you fuck?"

"When's the last time you got tested?"

I tried soothing some of the questions but bitch is a paranoid headcase. Non-stop freaking out about it and I didn't know how to get her to stop so I told her I had to mow my lawn and we'd pick it back up later (truth). Check my texts after I'm done my yard work and she sent me two messages:

"Great !"

"I'm not interested in pursuing further. Hope you well"

I ask her why - no response. So after about 30 minutes I text "Ok then bye" she responds immediately "Bye"

^ I think you may have bailed too soon, but I would be pissed off too. I had a girl pull that here in china and I booted her ass. Who has time for that bullshit?

That said, you can turn a "we're not having sex tonight" girl into a "fuck me please" girl with patience.

Had a Bumble date last night with a girl who just moved to town. She was cute in her pictures but had a couple obvious large moles on her face, no clear full body shot but hints at looking quite nice. When I first see her at the bar it's from behind and I'm quite pleased, she's about 5'4" and slender, long dark hair. When she turns to me all I can see is moles, 3 big ones on her face. We move to the patio and order drinks and talk, she's quite pleasant and fun to talk to. As the hour or so goes on the moles get smaller and smaller to me and she's becoming much more attractive, she'd definitely be a 7.5-8 without those moles. No, it wasn't the alcohol, I only had one beer. I was able to flirt and tease her a little and get in a few touches, no escalation though since logistics weren't great and she had to be up early for work. I can't help but wonder why she hasn't had them removed?

She's 36, during the conversation she brought up still wanting to have kids of her own but acknowledged she's running out of time. I told her I got fixed after my second kid, she asked why I did that instead of "other methods", I just said it was the right choice for my situation and that two was enough for me. Had a nice warm hug goodbye in the parking lot then bounced, I plan to hit her up in a day or two to invite her to go on a night hike near my place, much better logistics.

" I told her I got fixed after my second kid, she asked why I did that instead of "other methods"

You mean like anal?
Jajajaja

WIA

(06-29-2016 10:03 AM)General Stalin Wrote:  Nonstop asking about my promiscuity.

If this was in text, she sound very neurotic, paranoid, and guilty. If this was in person this is how I would've handled it.

Quote:"Do you always go down on girls right after you meet them?"

No usually only when I marry them, consider yourself lucky. -smirk-

Do you usually go down on guys after you meet them ? (throw some shade back at her)

The above shade needs to skillfully relayed, unless you just don't give a fuck.

Quote:"Are you just looking for sex?"

No, I'm looking for my next ex wife and babies momma.

The above question she's hitting you up about is standard, once again treat her like your little sister.

Quote:"I'm freaking because we had oral sex and I don't know where you've been"

What are you trying to say ? That I'm dirty and not capable of good decision making ? I have no idea where you've been but I thought you're capable of good judgment, now I'm second guessing if you're questioning me.

Always flip the script.

Quote:"How often do you fuck?"

That's none of your business and doesn't matter, I don't ask you your sexual history and details. I only discuss ours.

The fact you keep questioning if I'm dirty or not is kind of insulting now.

I flat out said this on my last date, she backed right down and said you're right.

Quote:"When's the last time you got tested?"

Seriously ? After all those questions you're STILL worried about me ?

Something tells me I need to be worried about you since you keep focusing and coming back about this.

I'm clean, I have no reason to be worried, I've never had anything. I decided to do things with you because you had good intentions and it seemed natural, you seemed like a decent girl, I just want you to be comfortable around me.

Quote:I tried soothing some of the questions but bitch is a paranoid headcase. Non-stop freaking out about it and I didn't know how to get her to stop so I told her I had to mow my lawn and we'd pick it back up later (truth). Check my texts after I'm done my yard work and she sent me two messages:

"Great !"

"I'm not interested in pursuing further. Hope you well"

Honestly when shit like that comes up, I call, I don't text. Alot of shit gets misconstrued via text, and it's easier to read her when she's on the phone.

This is why I hate texting, it will never replace talking on the phone.

(06-29-2016 10:33 AM)RunsWithScissors Wrote:  She's 36, during the conversation she brought up still wanting to have kids of her own but acknowledged she's running out of time. I told her I got fixed after my second kid, she asked why I did that instead of "other methods", I just said it was the right choice for my situation and that two was enough for me. Had a nice warm hug goodbye in the parking lot then bounced, I plan to hit her up in a day or two to invite her to go on a night hike near my place, much better logistics.

I wouldn't count on date 2, odds are she will flake.

She directly asked you why did get snipped - aka, "Why would you do that, when I potentially would want to fuck you and have kids with you"

Obviously there are ways to possibly reverse it and to also get her pregnant. Her asking that question directly raised my eyebrows.

Why didn't you go for the kiss ? Why did you just hug close her ?

(06-29-2016 11:03 AM)kaotic Wrote:  

(06-29-2016 10:03 AM)General Stalin Wrote:  Nonstop asking about my promiscuity.

If this was in text, she sound very neurotic, paranoid, and guilty. If this was in person this is how I would've handled it.

Quote:"Do you always go down on girls right after you meet them?"

No usually only when I marry them, consider yourself lucky. -smirk-

Do you usually go down on guys after you meet them ? (throw some shade back at her)

The above shade needs to skillfully relayed, unless you just don't give a fuck.

Quote:"Are you just looking for sex?"

No, I'm looking for my next ex wife and babies momma.

The above question she's hitting you up about is standard, once again treat her like your little sister.

Quote:"I'm freaking because we had oral sex and I don't know where you've been"

What are you trying to say ? That I'm dirty and not capable of good decision making ? I have no idea where you've been but I thought you're capable of good judgment, now I'm second guessing if you're questioning me.

Always flip the script.

Quote:"How often do you fuck?"

That's none of your business and doesn't matter, I don't ask you your sexual history and details. I only discuss ours.

The fact you keep questioning if I'm dirty or not is kind of insulting now.

I flat out said this on my last date, she backed right down and said you're right.

Quote:"When's the last time you got tested?"

Seriously ? After all those questions you're STILL worried about me ?

Something tells me I need to be worried about you since you keep focusing and coming back about this.

I'm clean, I have no reason to be worried, I've never had anything. I decided to do things with you because you had good intentions and it seemed natural, you seemed like a decent girl, I just want you to be comfortable around me.

Quote:I tried soothing some of the questions but bitch is a paranoid headcase. Non-stop freaking out about it and I didn't know how to get her to stop so I told her I had to mow my lawn and we'd pick it back up later (truth). Check my texts after I'm done my yard work and she sent me two messages:

"Great !"

"I'm not interested in pursuing further. Hope you well"

Honestly when shit like that comes up, I call, I don't text. Alot of shit gets misconstrued via text, and it's easier to read her when she's on the phone.

This is why I hate texting, it will never replace talking on the phone.

Looking back, calling her would have been a decent idea before I went to do my yard work, but I honestly didn't really want to deal with the headache. She was hot, but I've fucked plenty of hot and hotter girls who were less trouble.

A lot of those shittest questions were the other night when we were in person, and a lot of them were over text the next day. The thing is since she kept asking them, I couldn't just keep giving joke/agree-amplify answers. She wanted "adult talk."

kaotic Wrote:I wouldn't count on date 2, odds are she will flake.

She directly asked you why did get snipped - aka, "Why would you do that, when I potentially would want to fuck you and have kids with you"

Obviously there are ways to possibly reverse it and to also get her pregnant. Her asking that question directly raised my eyebrows.

Why didn't you go for the kiss ? Why did you just hug close her ?

You may very well be right about date 2. I'm inclined to think she found me interesting enough to see again since she's new to town and doesn't know anybody, at least until she finds someone more interesting. She had good body language with me, legs turned towards me and bumping my legs with hers a couple times under the table.

At the end of the snipped conversation there was a long period (like 20 seconds) of silent locked eye contact, the impression I got was she was assessing how committed I was to my decision on no more kids, I just shut my mouth, smirked and kept the eye contact locked. I don't intend to lead anyone on with false ideas that I'll have more kids, that's simply not going to happen. She made multiple comments through the night about being single, while she's obviously seeking that long-term provider to give her babies she acknowledged taking the time to "find herself" and "mature" (party and fuck lots of guys) until her late 20's when she felt like she could settle down, so she's been looking for that provider for nearly a decade. I didn't get the impression that she's only looking to find that person. I guess we'll find out when I ask her out again.

I actually think she was receptive to a kiss, she turned into me when we reached our cars, I purposefully didn't kiss her because I don't know that kissing her would have given me any more info on whether I'd see her again. Also, I've read others advocate NOT going for the kiss on the first date if there wasn't opportunity to escalate for more, and I knew that wasn't going to happen. If she agrees to meet up again, I'll be pushing to do something near my house and physically escalating heavily, I don't want to be her buddy tour guide.

I've said it before but I'm pretty new to this, I've been a serial monogamist my whole life until the past 9 months or so. Something WIA said in another thread a week or two ago has been really resonating with me, he was talking about the difference between dating and gaming and that many of us (especially newbs) are just dating. I'm definitely in that place but working on learning.

(06-29-2016 11:27 AM)General Stalin Wrote:  Looking back, calling her would have been a decent idea before I went to do my yard work, but I honestly didn't really want to deal with the headache. She was hot, but I've fucked plenty of hot and hotter girls who were less trouble.

A lot of those shittest questions were the other night when we were in person, and a lot of them were over text the next day. The thing is since she kept asking them, I couldn't just keep giving joke/agree-amplify answers. She wanted "adult talk."

That's fair enough, you don't want to deal with it then don't. Especially since you got abundance mentality grow - seems like you're maturing fast and the proof is the quality of girls you're pulling in. That's good shit man.

In person I would've been teasing her and calling her out at the same time. She wanted adult talk, then you have to crush her on it.

Becoming an intelligent speaking and matter of factly, even being condescending when she's trying to slight you for thinking you fuck around.

I would've specifically said, "Why do you keep asking me these questions ?"

"You know I don't bullshit, and I'm an open book." "What's up with you ? This seems of great concern, you can speak openly about it with me"

This can lead to a greater more in depth conversation (aka getting into her mind). Here you see her inner hamster and are able to leverage that to your benefit.

I find out very useful information when woman asks questions like that, I flip it on them and they come out about their issues, worries, etc. It's seeing the hamster in action without scaring it, it's a great tool to use.

I'm very non chalant from the get go with women, they know I have no filter between my brain and mouth. I straight always tell them you either love me or hate for what comes out of my mouth, but it's the truth.

I notice women become more comfortable with me, are more keen to opening up, and that is where the game starts.

(06-29-2016 11:28 AM)RunsWithScissors Wrote:  

kaotic Wrote:I wouldn't count on date 2, odds are she will flake.

She directly asked you why did get snipped - aka, "Why would you do that, when I potentially would want to fuck you and have kids with you"

Obviously there are ways to possibly reverse it and to also get her pregnant. Her asking that question directly raised my eyebrows.

Why didn't you go for the kiss ? Why did you just hug close her ?

You may very well be right about date 2. I'm inclined to think she found me interesting enough to see again since she's new to town and doesn't know anybody, at least until she finds someone more interesting.

-snip-

She made multiple comments through the night about being single, while she's obviously seeking that long-term provider to give her babies she acknowledged taking the time to "find herself" and "mature" (party and fuck lots of guys) until her late 20's when she felt like she could settle down, so she's been looking for that provider for nearly a decade. I didn't get the impression that she's only looking to find that person. I guess we'll find out when I ask her out again.

I actually think she was receptive to a kiss, she turned into me when we reached our cars, I purposefully didn't kiss her because I don't know that kissing her would have given me any more info on whether I'd see her again. Also, I've read others advocate NOT going for the kiss on the first date if there wasn't opportunity to escalate for more, and I knew that wasn't going to happen. If she agrees to meet up again, I'll be pushing to do something near my house and physically escalating heavily, I don't want to be her buddy tour guide.

I've said it before but I'm pretty new to this, I've been a serial monogamist my whole life until the past 9 months or so. Something WIA said in another thread a week or two ago has been really resonating with me, he was talking about the difference between dating and gaming and that many of us (especially newbs) are just dating. I'm definitely in that place but working on learning.

Here's the thing, women who have been looking for a "Decade" usually don't have time for BS.

Sounds like you might of missed her cock carousel and she's looking for that bet bucks ticket out of slut town.

How old are you ? Sounds like you said, she sure did do the young wild and free (read: slut it up) way before you came into the picture.

She's what ? 36 ? You could do way better and way younger than her.

I wouldn't invest much into getting her out again.

If I know I don't have the logistics or don't have time to pull her, I'm absolutely making out with her, and at the heigh of passin in our kiss, abruptly break off, walk away, and tell her to text me when she gets home.

If I have logistics set and she took my bait about going back to my pad, I'm not making out with her or giving her any hint of my motives until she's in my bed and I'm making out with her.

The next time you see her, you better get her to your house and ravage her. Otherwise this girl is a bust.

Next step, setup the next date.

Basic "you must be a player" or "fuck a lot of girls" tests.

Not enough comfort and too much sexual attraction. She is trying to defuse the situation, probably unconsciously.

Part of it is her ego, "I don't just want to be one of your whores. "

(I want to be your *special* whore!) - lulz

By playing it hard and refusing to give her physical affection first, you kick in her lmr/asd.

Reminds me of the post from early in the Tinder days where the guy picks the chick up and expects her to be ready to fuck and can't figure out why she isn't ready even though she swiped him.

The game never ends, and it starts and continues from when you scoop her up.

Come up with your sequence, your ritual for a new chick.

More than just kiss, French, neck, cop a feel, 2nd base, 3rd base, homerun.

It could just be that, but you could pause and savor the moment. Or drop back a step, then step forward.

Better still is to do more subtle sexual things from the second you pick her up.

Building the sexual comfort will usually stop the heavy lmr. Further, the more sensual you make it at the front end, the easier it will be to be her "pleasure guy. "

WIA

Thanks General Stalin for explaining and creds for actually saying it and doing it. I'm way to nice in situations like that.

Opened a black girl today with huge boobs, held her hand extra long when we introduced ourself and kept deep eye contact, managed to sexualize atleast a little bit. I have a big problem with my approaches turns into friendly chats.

Ran into two!! different old leads, one of them seemed very into me now and said something like "Where did you go before?" implying i dissed her last summer, which is not how i remember it, dunno, will wait 1-3 days then contact her.

Finally some leads and stuff.

kaotic Wrote:Here's the thing, women who have been looking for a "Decade" usually don't have time for BS.

Sounds like you might of missed her cock carousel and she's looking for that bet bucks ticket out of slut town.

How old are you ? Sounds like you said, she sure did do the young wild and free (read: slut it up) way before you came into the picture.

She's what ? 36 ? You could do way better and way younger than her.

I wouldn't invest much into getting her out again.

If I know I don't have the logistics or don't have time to pull her, I'm absolutely making out with her, and at the heigh of passin in our kiss, abruptly break off, walk away, and tell her to text me when she gets home.

If I have logistics set and she took my bait about going back to my pad, I'm not making out with her or giving her any hint of my motives until she's in my bed and I'm making out with her.

The next time you see her, you better get her to your house and ravage her. Otherwise this girl is a bust.

Next step, setup the next date.

I'm 41, divorced going on 5 years, was in a 3+ year LTR until October. I've got a 30 year old I've been fucking and spending time with, that's the youngest I've had, she didn't know my age and thought I was mid-30's. I have 2 young kids with me 50% time which makes this all more complicated.

I'm not invested in getting the moles girl out again, but do plan to invite her out and do my best to fuck her. I appreciate your input and will let you know what happens.

(06-29-2016 12:46 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  Basic "you must be a player" or "fuck a lot of girls" tests.

Not enough comfort and too much sexual attraction. She is trying to defuse the situation, probably unconsciously.

Part of it is her ego, "I don't just want to be one of your whores. "

(I want to be your *special* whore!) - lulz

By playing it hard and refusing to give her physical affection first, you kick in her lmr/asd.

Reminds me of the post from early in the Tinder days where the guy picks the chick up and expects her to be ready to fuck and can't figure out why she isn't ready even though she swiped him.

The game never ends, and it starts and continues from when you scoop her up.

Come up with your sequence, your ritual for a new chick.

More than just kiss, French, neck, cop a feel, 2nd base, 3rd base, homerun.

It could just be that, but you could pause and savor the moment. Or drop back a step, then step forward.

Better still is to do more subtle sexual things from the second you pick her up.

Building the sexual comfort will usually stop the heavy lmr. Further, the more sensual you make it at the front end, the easier it will be to be her "pleasure guy. "

WIA

Forgive the chump question, but given her dismissive messages in our last text, would you recommend bothering to send a restart text next week?

I'd like to experiment more on this girl with comfort game if I can keep the door open - though the way she is I read her more as an asshole-worshiper than then type that needs comfort and reassurance.

If all is already lost, you aren't hurt by shooting another text her way. Just don't pin your hopes on it.

WIA

(06-29-2016 12:46 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  It could just be that, but you could pause and savor the moment. Or drop back a step, then step forward.

Better still is to do more subtle sexual things from the second you pick her up.

Building the sexual comfort will usually stop the heavy lmr. Further, the more sensual you make it at the front end, the easier it will be to be her "pleasure guy. "

WIA

Let's talk about this a second, I always dig your insight WIA.

Granted most know the real game barely has started until she walks in the door.

By subtle sexual things, are you talking about conversations, kino, a combination of both ? Or other things as well ?

Comfort game is important, but we're talking now, sexual comfort game.

In my mind I'm thinking open ended conversation about sex positivity or something of that nature. Especially if it isn't a zero date bang come right over scenario.

How would you make things more sensual/sexual than your average run of the mill first conversation date ?

(06-29-2016 01:56 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

(06-29-2016 12:46 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  It could just be that, but you could pause and savor the moment. Or drop back a step, then step forward.

Better still is to do more subtle sexual things from the second you pick her up.

Building the sexual comfort will usually stop the heavy lmr. Further, the more sensual you make it at the front end, the easier it will be to be her "pleasure guy. "

WIA

Let's talk about this a second, I always dig your insight WIA.

Granted most know the real game barely has started until she walks in the door.

By subtle sexual things, are you talking about conversations, kino, a combination of both ? Or other things as well ?

Comfort game is important, but we're talking now, sexual comfort game.

In my mind I'm thinking open ended conversation about sex positivity or something of that nature. Especially if it isn't a zero date bang come right over scenario.

How would you make things more sensual/sexual than your average run of the mill first conversation date ?

I'll just think of a typical scenario

- Meet a girl, make a good impression
- You're probably going to send texts to each other because that's how people communicate.
- when you send a "haha" text or a funny image - that's more for the day when she's at work
- when you send a "sexy" text, that's like 10 pm on a tuesday when she's slowing down, getting in bed.

- eventually you're going to meet her out for drinks or bocce ball.

- If you go play darts/pool - based on the overall structure of the pull - you already have attraction, now you need to work on her being physically comfortable

- Break the touch barrier. Bold or inadvertent, whatever your styles is.

- You're going to continue to flirt during the activity/drinks. G, to PG, to PG-13, To R....Let her be the one to take to XXX. (well this is what I do)...but make sure you cool it back down. You want sexual tension, but you don't want her to overheat and realize (OMG he's gonna fuck me soon...panic)

- So you're moving her around by the small of her back, helping her aim her shot, getting whipped cream on her nose while eating sundays - all that Hollywood shit. Future projection. Accusing her of being a horn dog by ordering the banana split, then a crazy cause she took a knife to the banana... All that sort of on the edge/flirting/sexual tension.

- You don't want to kiss her passionately in public.

That releases all the tension and gives a "natural" end point to the date. I used to kiss her after we left the bar, in my car, at my car, at my door, at her door. If everything else was going great, usually that would lead to the bang. But I noticed that if I could hold out longer and push her longer - kissing her behind CLOSED doors, let loose the torrent.

You can be a little more dramatic and do the "hair pull" in the car say. (assuming she's not a black woman, lol. If you want a lecture about black hair..."doesnt your mama" - I might be speaking from too much experience though..)

Primal move. Soup does it. YaReally had a good gif for it which I can't seem to find. But the idea is to imply this



Do it on the low, but it's a big signal that cuts out the bullshit.

- get her behind closed doors - She might jump on you. Well then let it happen.

You can do the wall slam, but I don't particularly advise it.

But if you do a wall kiss, work your hand up to her collarbone and place it there. Move it up slowly. If she hints for you to stop, then stop immediately like it's not big deal.

The thing about the sex is that you want it to happen, but you don't want her to intellectualize it, to verbalize it.

And you can always take a break. You can always pull off first if you don't see her do that "audible gasp" thing that girls do when they're really ready to fuck.

But I want a the girl to be grabbing for my dick, pulling my zipper down.

I want to bang her, blow her mind.

I want to debrief at the end.

And I want to be able to send a text to her the next night about how she's jilling off to what we did the previous night. Have her rename her vibrator to Archie.

There are probably really good texts on this kinda stuff. I"m sure i've hobbled over my end game from reading a lot.

WIA

(06-27-2016 12:13 PM)kaotic Wrote:  So this lizard's hamster ended up going into overdrive and ended up blocking me.

I didn't respond to a late text from her then she sends me a screenshot saying, "I'm so mean" and a picture of what I assume is a guy asking, "do u like my body" - with her about to text back "I mean....it's alright"

I never respond to her, the next day I send her a video of the bike accident and she says "oh baby -emoji- heart"

I tell her, "Oh baby ? Look closer one of our friends got hit by a car on his bike" - "OMG I didn't even notice"

I text her the next day - at this point I notice my iMessage never went through and resent it as green.

This is usually an indicator that you've been blocked on an iPhone.

Whatever, not my problem, already got new leads.

Turns out she "lost her phone for 2 days" and it died "underneath her bed"

Either way she apologized profusely and said she'd make it up when she gets back from Colorado. Next week.

She's definitely still locked onto me, but I'm not holding my breath.



In other news, an old 19 year old plate from over a year ago called while I was on my first date with the 18 year old.

I ended up texting her asking who it was, we started a convo.

She's 21 now, moved to the beach. We met up tonight.


My my, I wasn't surprised.

She looked like she was older than 21, her face wasn't as youthful, her body still tight, but not as tight as I remembered it.

2 years of alcohol and drugs definitely did takes it toll.

She also was definitely a bit more spaced out, probably from the drugs.

The sex was great, we banged twice before she left.


She did admit she was mad at me for months, but got over it. She decided to come over because she thought she saw me at a rave last weekend and it reminded her of me.


I went to the bathroom and she was at my desk, not sure what she was looking at but I was a bit paranoid she was trying to jack something.

I thought she was looking at a 5.56 casing that sitting on my desk, which I showed her, she wanted to keep, I told her fuck no, she wouldn't let go for a bit.


I'm not sure if I'll keep her as a plate, she seems a bit more unstable, regardless of the sex. The more I think about it, she'd be a once a month or less thing.

She's moving back to the beach for school mid august - less skin off my back.

(06-29-2016 07:31 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  I'll just think of a typical scenario

- Meet a girl, make a good impression
- You're probably going to send texts to each other because that's how people communicate.
- when you send a "haha" text or a funny image - that's more for the day when she's at work
- when you send a "sexy" text, that's like 10 pm on a tuesday when she's slowing down, getting in bed.

You know honestly I keep texts short, once in awhile I'll send a funny text or pic. If we've fucked, it might get sexual, none of these girls are on my snapchat, only 1 of them sends me ass shots.

I guess I don't amp up sexuality via text.

Quote:- eventually you're going to meet her out for drinks or bocce ball.

- If you go play darts/pool - based on the overall structure of the pull - you already have attraction, now you need to work on her being physically comfortable

- Break the touch barrier. Bold or inadvertent, whatever your styles is.

My MO usually is drink 1 chat, drink 2 shoot pool, drink 3 chat while standing, and shoot pool, maybe bounce to venue 2. My rapport is usually on point and I have her attention the entire time.

Shooting pool is amazing at being able to get into her personal bubble, get touchy feely with her holding a stick. So much sexual innuendo can be used and so many jokes can be made.

Quote:- You're going to continue to flirt during the activity/drinks. G, to PG, to PG-13, To R....Let her be the one to take to XXX. (well this is what I do)...but make sure you cool it back down. You want sexual tension, but you don't want her to overheat and realize (OMG he's gonna fuck me soon...panic)

- So you're moving her around by the small of her back, helping her aim her shot, getting whipped cream on her nose while eating sundays - all that Hollywood shit. Future projection. Accusing her of being a horn dog by ordering the banana split, then a crazy cause she took a knife to the banana... All that sort of on the edge/flirting/sexual tension.

I've had girls make sexual jokes without me even provoking them, some girls will roll with your flirting, these girls are usually more open. There are some prudes or have such ASD that they can't take a sexual joke (which is a whole different story).

I drop some of my sarcastic asshole game, have them say "fuck you !" -with a smile on my face- which I reply to, "but I barely know you ! I'm not just some hot piece of man" or something of that nature, with a smirk of course. The banter shooting pool with her is always the best of our date, it brings out alot her qualities you wouldn't see sitting next to her at the bar.

Quote:- You don't want to kiss her passionately in public.

That releases all the tension and gives a "natural" end point to the date. I used to kiss her after we left the bar, in my car, at my car, at my door, at her door. If everything else was going great, usually that would lead to the bang. But I noticed that if I could hold out longer and push her longer - kissing her behind CLOSED doors, let loose the torrent.

I don't kiss at all in public, I like keeping her guessing. I've never made out with a girl at the bar, always outside or in my car at the most, typically i'm not kissing her until she's laying in my bed and a movies on. (Perhaps it's me viewing as a plausible deniability for her LMR and ASD). After that it's Blitzkreig Escalation.

Quote:You can be a little more dramatic and do the "hair pull" in the car say. (assuming she's not a black woman, lol. If you want a lecture about black hair..."doesnt your mama" - I might be speaking from too much experience though..)

Primal move. Soup does it. YaReally had a good gif for it which I can't seem to find. But the idea is to imply this

-hair pull snip-

Do it on the low, but it's a big signal that cuts out the bullshit.

HAH that 18 year old black virgin got irritated in a cute way that I made her extensions loose.

What's funny is if I get real drunk and I'm around girls that I'm fucking with I start pulling hair from the base of their skull. Wanna know what I found out ?

NONE of them got pissed, they either immediately loved it, or said stop it because they like that. Not a single girl tried slapping me or got angry.

A few times before I even kiss a girl I'll employ this tactic.

Quote:- get her behind closed doors - She might jump on you. Well then let it happen.

You can do the wall slam, but I don't particularly advise it.

But if you do a wall kiss, work your hand up to her collarbone and place it there. Move it up slowly. If she hints for you to stop, then stop immediately like it's not big deal.

The thing about the sex is that you want it to happen, but you don't want her to intellectualize it, to verbalize it.

And you can always take a break. You can always pull off first if you don't see her do that "audible gasp" thing that girls do when they're really ready to fuck.

WIA

Great minds think alike WIA.

The hair pulling and light choking are just for starters in bed, I always test, like you said from the collar bone up.

The gasp means it's absolutely over, and you take her. Love that shit.

Every girl likes having her neck grabbed and her hair pulled - the only difference is how hard she likes you to squeeze and tug. You know she's a freak when she pushes your hand tighter into her neck motioning you to squeeze tighter.

Women love being dominated sexually - to feel your masculine power. Some women are so jaded and desensitized to getting fucked they need you to be even more aggressive to even bother fucking with you. They won't take you seriously unless you really grab on them and show some power.

(06-30-2016 04:01 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  Every girl likes having her neck grabbed and her hair pulled - the only difference is how hard she likes you to squeeze and tug. You know she's a freak when she pushes your hand tighter into her neck motioning you to squeeze tighter.

Women love being dominated sexually - to feel your masculine power. Some women are so jaded and desensitized to getting fucked they need you to be even more aggressive to even bother fucking with you. They won't take you seriously unless you really grab on them and show some power.

Not for freshman players!

It's a tight rope to walk. You want to introduce dominance themes lightly and early, in my opinion.

Otherwise you'll get that Jian Ghomeshi scenario where the girl who might be down for the bang gets clocked in the head.

WIA

Agreed you certainly shouldn't be choke-slamming a girl once you go for the first kiss.



But like you said - place your hand on her collar bone. I like to just lightly hold their neck when making out and gage their response.

I usually pull hair teasingly, slap asses, and subtly suggest she probably likes more. Gauge, then up the ante, more hair pulling, bit harder, slap harder, with light rubbing of the neck slowly grasp harder and harder.

If this is nothing for her, once again subtly suggest she likes other shit like whips and cuffs.

I push as far as I can go every time.

1. On Texting - I think the forum trend is to keep it light and logistical, but these girls live on their phones. If you ain't sending her something, 50 other guys are. But to add this to your skillset, you're going to have to break a few eggs.

2. +1 on shooting pool.
3. On sexual jokes - guys have different styles. My "sex jokes" are all plausible deniability jokes. But if you meet the chick and from jump you're talking about getting a blowie in an In and Out bathroom - that's gonna turn some chicks off, but turn a fair amount of chicks on. Sex is really no big deal, and it's often very comical.

I'm sure I've dropped this one before,

WIA - "well you know what they say about a guy with big hands"
*she says something dirty or says nothing at all*
WIA - "he has to buy big gloves...omg did you think I was gonna..where's your mind"...

Another variation is from Archer, "Phrasing"

She said she wanted 5 Guys.....

Et cetera. Banter is a very enjoyable part of the game. Too enjoyable sometimes, cause a chick will get carried away.

3. Kissing - it can go either way. You basically have to get sexual without getting sexual before you get to the sex location. I'm not trying to SURPRISE GIRL I GOTTA DICK any of these bitches.

That's why the hair pull is a good one for me.

4. Hair Pull - lol @ loose extensions. If you would have made a joke about going natural, that would have been hilarious.

5. You can get a way with a lot more than you think you can. That whole brouhaha with that RSD dude. I've seen worse and the chicks are just eating it up because it's so funny.

6. BDSM stuff isn't part of my main game, but lots of chicks have those impulses. Not all. My last ex wanted face slaps. The ex before that was into choking. The girl I like fucking the most, is like "No sir, none of that for me"

WIA

How do you guys tell a chick you haven't banged that you'd rather meet at her place than a bar?
Ive been on a hot streak but I just can't afford hotels anymore.

Met a chick, went for drinks, made out day 1. Logistics was off, mistake on my part.
This was months ago she's been trying to connect but I've been away for work. She travels too.

She just messaged me asking if I want to go to a show and I'm in a lazy mood I really want to sit on a couch and finger bang her rather than go to a loud show. she's 15 years younger than me.

Ive read some of the reports and it seems like a good idea to choose venue close to her house so we can bounce there. .. but im a bit too tired for that too. Any general text script for just inserting yourself into the chicks crib before the first bang?

I've never been so tired and all I wanna do is be indoors, not out. Not looking forward to 40

(06-30-2016 08:31 PM)toejam Wrote:  How do you guys tell a chick you haven't banged that you'd rather meet at her place than a bar?
Ive been on a hot streak but I just can't afford hotels anymore.

Met a chick, went for drinks, made out day 1. Logistics was off, mistake on my part.
This was months ago she's been trying to connect but I've been away for work. She travels too.

She just messaged me asking if I want to go to a show and I'm in a lazy mood I really want to sit on a couch and finger bang her rather than go to a loud show. she's 15 years younger than me.

Ive read some of the reports and it seems like a good idea to choose venue close to her house so we can bounce there. .. but im a bit too tired for that too. Any general text script for just inserting yourself into the chicks crib before the first bang?

I've never been so tired and all I wanna do is be indoors, not out. Not looking forward to 40

How old are you now?

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