Post: #101

Can we stop calling a Panamera a supercar please

Thanks

Post: #102

(05-30-2016 09:05 PM)RawGod Wrote:  

(05-30-2016 08:41 PM)Dusty Wrote:  I don't get guys who like hairy bushes. I like my bitches how I like my coffee, free of pubic hair.

That's your preference, fine. As someone with long-term experience in Asia I will say generally you're getting a different kind of girl if she shaves. She may not be a huge slut, but it's like having tattoos, 4000 Facebook friends, Instagram photos in fancy hotel rooms when she's a cashier. It's a heads-up.

I see your point, but Thais in Bangkok are definitely more into pussy grooming. Most trim at a minimum. I have only encountered one full bush here and the chick was Thai Chinese and absolutely loaded.

My last Japanese LTR was a virgin, had never dated a foreigner, and completely waxed her pussy for the first time we banged. It was fucking glorious. Just leaving it there for comparison.

Post: #103

I've spent a grand total of half a year in Thailand so I don't know shit... but I feel Rawmeo's datasheet is spot on. I have several Thai friends, think Assumption University graduates and Thai Airways pilots. I learned that social status is everything in the Kingdom. +1 from me.

Post: #104

(05-30-2016 04:24 PM)Enigma Wrote:  Care to point out what's inaccurate?

All I saw was nitpicking about visas and whether it's possible to learn Thai without a language school -- neither of which were particularly important to the thread's theme.

You've been here almost two years and haven't started a single thread. Aren't you married to a Thai girl? Feel free to drop your own datasheet.

Yes, I am married to a Thai and that is why, after a great deal of hesitation, pointed out a few of the errors (there are more) in the data sheet which Rawmeo acknowledged. You may consider this 'nitpicking', but with so much of life in Thailand being subjective, I felt it was necessary to point out some of the errors in the areas that we can more or less pin down. You may be surprised to hear this, but 'wife hunting' sometimes leads to marriage. Also thoughts of starting a family and gaining as much permanence in the country as possible; yearly visas or extensions, these become very important. That said, I have no interest in beating up on the OP, who I have never met, anymore than I reluctantly already have.

Post: #105

(05-31-2016 02:11 AM)Kamaki4 Wrote:  Yes, I am married to a Thai and that is why, after a great deal of hesitation, pointed out a few of the errors (there are more) in the data sheet which Rawmeo acknowledged. You may consider this 'nitpicking', but with so much of life in Thailand being subjective, I felt it was necessary to point out some of the errors in the areas that we can more or less pin down. You may be surprised to hear this, but 'wife hunting' sometimes leads to marriage. Also thoughts of starting a family and gaining as much permanence in the country as possible; yearly visas or extensions, these become very important. That said, I have no interest in beating up on the OP, who I have never met, anymore than I reluctantly already have.

Come on, man.

You posted the information about visas on the first page.

You then brought it up again on the fourth page, well after the subject had been dropped, in response to a joke that I made.

Of course visas are important.

But he made an inaccurate statement; you corrected it. To continue to beat that dead horse for pages or pretend it makes the entire datasheet inaccurate is very much nitpicking.

Especially when the bank account/tourist visa debate seems to depend on the branch, which would mean that there is obviously some sort of grey area there.

Again, if you want to be the expert on marriage in Thailand, drop a datasheet. That is not a sarcastic comment. I would legitimately love to read what you have to say and would definitely give you a +1.

But the OP has provide lengthy data, in-depth explanation into his personal life, pics, video, and even offered to take a language proficiency test.

Meanwhile -- other than the visa info -- all of the criticisms seem to be a difference in opinion rather than actual "inaccuracies". And a lot of people seem to share his same opinions.

I understand that people had some bad experiences with him, though I've never met or talked to the guy personally. But many of us here were awkward, broke, made mistakes with women, etc. in our past.

If this guy really did turn his life around, that's to be applauded, in my opinion. Especially when he's trying to give value back. That's what we're all here for in the first place.

Post: #106

(05-30-2016 09:33 PM)BlackHat Wrote:  

(05-28-2016 05:35 PM)jimukr104 Wrote:  I have no experience or interest in SEA but it sounds kind of beta to have to own a home, a good car, etc, etc just to get a girl t date or marry. You can do better in the west with less headaches. But the real kicker is isn't it a bit overboard?

Considering there are plenty of guys dating and married to girls there without having such worldly goods. Also, why would a foreigner care about the class structure of the gal he is dating?

Living like a baller is definitely not beta. A girls class is very important, low class girls come with bigger baggage, anyone who has been in SEA can confirm that.


BTW Rawmeo amazing datasheet, as someone who lived in Thailand for 2 years I can confirm the accuracy especially regarding the classification of the girls in terms of their social strata.

I'm sad to say I've never managed to bed an upper class girl in Bangkok. All of them were either middle or lower class. I had the baller pad, but unfortunately no Thai skills.
In Thailand you need to have a fancy title next to your name in order for those higher class girls to give you the time of the day, location independent income doesn't cut it.
They'll want to boast to their friends/family how they are dating a Diplomat/CEO/Businessman Etc.

I've only witnessed one farang who has managed to date an upper class thai girl , he was a diplomat with a fancy embassy plate and diplomatic immunity, figure.

Nothing wrong with living like a "baller", as you say, but he seems to say that all that stuff is needed. The proof is all the thousands of farangs who live there and date attractive women who don't need that stuff.

More appropriate would to mention that being a baller helps. But in most countries being rich, famous, etc helps.

I will write the difference in opinion to be due to cultural differences though.

Post: #107

(05-30-2016 11:00 PM)192 Wrote:  Just wondering if anyone can explain what the obsession is with some guys on this forum with dating a 'hi so' girl?

Correct me if I'm wrong but in my mind hi so in thailand would be the equivalent of a girl with let's say relations to a landed member of the UK gentry or something similar.

This obsession seems particular to the Thai threads?

I'm sure everyone here has dated nice middle class thai girls with access to cash, their own property and car etc is this what most guys actually mean? True hi so is surely less than 5% of the Thai population?

HiSo girls as a type by itself does not mean much, but in the context of Thailand, it matters quite a bit. All of my Thai friends are HiSo people. I have friends from many countries, but I think Thai people just might be the only ones like that in my circles with the exception of my Saudi friends. Like Saudis it is too easy to find yourself friendly with the high social class groups, if you are in the same spaces as them. Everyone else I know from other countries, can range from flat broke to upper-middle-class.

Light skinned Thais are disproportionately richer in Thailand and are in the upper crust government wise too. This is much more so than countries like China, Vietnam, etc. around them.

Hardly anyone games India, but if India was as popular as Thailand for women, you would be seeing lots of posts related to HiSo and Class discussions easily, without question. Why? Because it fucking matters alot there too despite no longer officially having caste system.

Post: #108

Yeah on guys desiring Hi-So chicks:

-Thais themselves are super-obsessed with status, and that tends to rub off when you live there. Foreign guys who buy into the society end up taking on this "Hi-So is best" mentality either consciously or unconsciously. You have to understand Thailand - it's either you buy into the hierarchy, or you're perceived as being a vulgar outsider in the same box as loser farang sexpats/backpackers, so. Many westerners living there who want to be accepted end up buying the hierarchy more than they would at home. Thus they end up overvaluing "Hi-So" in and of itself.

-There's not really such a thing as a "nice educated middle class girl with a car and her own apartment"... that would be upper class. Thailand isn't first-world developed country, the wealth distribution is not the same. Median wage in thailand = 14kbaht/month = $400USD. (bkk will be higher, but still)

If you meet an educated chick with decent car and apartment, it means she got a premium education and a job way above median wage, or bankrolled by family. Likely daddy has done very well. successful business owner, well-ranked official or successful lawyer etc. Not "Hi-So" necessarily, but upper-class.

So if you want a girl who is at least "on your level" in terms of education and general worldliness (which is notoriously low across the board in Thailand), it usually means going upper-class or beyond.

Post: #109

I'm curious as to why one would specifically pick or look for a Thai wife as opposed to the other types of Asians, both SEA (Viet Nam, Philippines, Cambodia, etc.) and East Asian (China, Korea, Japan). Does it come down to choosing the country first and thereby necessarily marrying those women, or do you pick the woman first and then the country?

Post: #110

(05-31-2016 12:40 PM)Menace Wrote:  I'm curious as to why one would specifically pick or look for a Thai wife as opposed to the other types of Asians, both SEA (Viet Nam, Philippines, Cambodia, etc.) and East Asian (China, Korea, Japan). Does it come down to choosing the country first and thereby necessarily marrying those women, or do you pick the woman first and then the country?

If you want to wife hunt, you first have to add the below into your decision making process (in no order):

1. The logistics
2. The culture (you marry the woman, you marry her culture)
3. Finances
4. Her family members (you marry the woman, you marry her family)
5. What features (looks) you enjoy the most on a woman.
6. General safety. Volatile towards foreigners? Pickpockets or AK-47 toting terrorists?
7. Ownership of private property or living quarters (see number 1)
8. Religious issues if applicable.

It's pretty standard and straightforward stuff. Failure to consider things like this, and you could easily have a mess on your hands trying to figure out stuff when they are trying to plan a wedding. Most people tend not to do that, but it can happen to the best of us, especially if you catch lightning in a bottle super quick and unexpectedly.

eg. (Take a two week trip somewhere, meet an 8-10 reading a book in a park, she passes all the tests, but you had no plans for meeting a person like this) A situation like that is rough because you go back home and then do all the digging necessary to see how things could work out (playing catchup), but had you bothered to check into stuff like that happening for x,y,z countries before going, you would not be too caught off guard.

You cannot plan for everything in life like a typical min/max asshole strives for, but anything you can plan somewhat, you should.

Post: #111

(05-30-2016 11:57 PM)Sidney Crosby Wrote:  Can we stop calling a Panamera a supercar please

Thanks

A car that costs 300k in a country where the gdp per capita is 5k is a supercar whether you like or not..
Its the equivalent of owning a car thats worth 2.4 million $ in the States.

So basically its like driving in a Bugatti Veyron or Mclaren F1 in the states.

Quite a big accomplishment I'd say.

Post: #112

(05-31-2016 02:43 PM)BlackHat Wrote:  

(05-30-2016 11:57 PM)Sidney Crosby Wrote:  Can we stop calling a Panamera a supercar please

Thanks

A car that costs 300k in a country where the gdp per capita is 5k is a supercar whether you like or not..
Its the equivalent of owning a car thats worth 2.4 million $ in the States.

So basically its like driving in a Bugatti Veyron or Mclaren F1 in the states.

Quite a big accomplishment I'd say.

Eh ... actually it is not a supercar. A super expensive car, yes but technically it is not a supercar. If cost determined what a supercar was, the S500 Benz in China would qualify as well, they are about the same price there. It's a very nice car don't get me wrong, but a supercar is something very exotic, very rare, very fast, and a limited production collectible.

Is an S500 AMG Benz a supercar? No. What about a SL63 AMG? Nah. What about an SLS AMG? Absolutely.

It's a pretty fine line, but calling regular production cars supercars is not right at all. You cannot even compare a Zonda or a MacLaren to a Panamera. They are just not in the same automobile class period. That's just not even up for a debate. A 918 Porsche is a Porsche supercar and there are a few more I cannot think of right now. All cars that can hit 200 MPH, aren't supercars either (eg. a Ford Shelby Cobra but a Ford GT or a Viper is). It's a combination of very high speed, extreme racetrack suspension/aerodynamics/performance, high-end exotic design, and very limited production (often mostly hand made) with a buyers list you might have to get on. You could make a good debate that some Ferraris are not supercars either.

I'm sure there are tons of car/racing nuts on here, but the OPs point was that he could just simply park in the supercar parking spots because his car is high end enough to get away with it. It's just a nice lifehack that he thought could help us should we get something nice enough to exploit it, that's all.

Post: #113

So is Rawmeo just another in a long line of "big baller" trolls ???

I agree, the Panamera is a luxury performance saloon, it is not supercar. Troll suspect Red flag right there.

If Rawmeo was any good in Thailand, why isn't he driving a koenigsegge or a Hennessey Venom??

Post: #114

Probably because the front bumper would be gone to shit with all the potholes and whatnot.

So a SUV or crossover might be just a bit better in this case.

Post: #115

Not just that, but one often encounters dangerous objects on the road. Two weeks ago I almost ran over a cement block that had probably fallen off a truck on a major freeway and last weekend I hit a guy who was drunk and stumbled onto a main road and into oncoming traffic. Luckily I swerved in time and only caught him with my side view mirror. Add narrow sois and yearly flooding to the mix and it's no surprise that you see small hatchbacks/sedans, trucks and SUV's driven here.

The excise tax formula which was changed earlier this year to reflect emissions rather than engine displacement is too convoluted to explain here. That said if you stick with Thai built automobiles (huge auto manufacturing industry) the premium over what you would pay in the U.S is nothing like what you would pay for a Porsche, BMW or Mercedes.

One month ago I bought a new Japanese hatchback manufactured in Thailand and the price is very close to what you would pay in the U.S for a similar model. The Japanese SUV (auto) my wife drives is two years old now, but this years model is 20% premium over the U.S price.

Getting back to marriage material Thai girls. My wife's first cousin (they grew up as sisters) is in the final 34 for the Miss Thailand 2016 that is underway now; link to Miss Thailand FB below. She would also probably score very well in Rawmeo's positives, negatives test (I never ran the numbers). Don't think one is allowed to say anything bad about wife's relations, so I will just say that I wouldn't go out of my way to introduce any of my friends to her.

https://www.facebook.com/missthailandofficial

Post: #116

(05-31-2016 12:40 PM)Menace Wrote:  I'm curious as to why one would specifically pick or look for a Thai wife as opposed to the other types of Asians, both SEA (Viet Nam, Philippines, Cambodia, etc.) and East Asian (China, Korea, Japan). Does it come down to choosing the country first and thereby necessarily marrying those women, or do you pick the woman first and then the country?

I think that most guys choose the country first. As we all know, Thailand is very accessible visa-wise, safe, tourist-friendly and low cost. Guys swoop in for a holiday, meet a bar girl or some chick off the internet and go home "in love".

Post: #117

I don't think thai girls are marriage material. Eastern European girls are much better. I would definitely want my son or daughter to carry those slav genes. Thailand is a great place to increase your notch count but that's pretty much it. I don't think its a good country for a LTR. Thai girls lack a lot in the intellectual department. Didn't come across one girl that was able to carry out an intellectual conversation, they are materially obsessed. Sure Eastern European girls place huge importance on material posessions too but It's not hard to find one which isn't.

Post: #118

Thailand for me is binary.

True quality Thais are AWESOME, smart playful and carefree yet still polite and classy. But they're so rare. My sweet spot is the international school types who've studied abroad and retain the best of both cultures.

But most girls there from all levels of society have one or more major dealbreakers in terms of personality for me.

I definitely wouldn't chase a Hi-So girl who needed guy to have a flash car. Totally the wrong frame for an LTR.

Post: #119

A supercar, a house, a fat check. It all seems anti game...

Post: #120

(06-01-2016 08:48 AM)worldtraveler3 Wrote:  A supercar, a house, a fat check. It all seems anti game...

Perhaps I'm biased because I do pretty well for myself financially, but I don't understand this line of reasoning. It sounds suspiciously like a case of sour grapes.

Why is leveraging your material assets into getting a better quality/quantity of girls "anti-game"? Lots of girls see nice car, nice clothes, big house like guys see big tits, tight ass, pretty face. Sure, there are guys that will depend entirely on their wealth to try and get girls, but it's not "anti-game" at all to use the trappings of money to get more and better women.

Post: #121

^leveraging what you have is one thing... "believing the hype" that you need to accrue X amount before getting a quality girl, is a limiting belief. OP is kinda pushing that here, let's be real.

Like Leighton says, he's on 50k baht a month and has a quality upper-class girl in BKK by leveraging other factors. IMO Men have more than enough limiting beliefs around money, so it's cool to emphasize the opposite and encourage people to focus on the higher ROI levers like game, style, social circle etc. Personally I think it's very cool to find these hacks and not toil away for years just to go the conventional unimaginative route of "stack millions then finally get a high quality girl". Especially in Thailand, that's insane.

Post: #122

(06-01-2016 01:22 PM)booshala Wrote:  

(06-01-2016 08:48 AM)worldtraveler3 Wrote:  A supercar, a house, a fat check. It all seems anti game...

Perhaps I'm biased because I do pretty well for myself financially, but I don't understand this line of reasoning. It sounds suspiciously like a case of sour grapes.

Why is leveraging your material assets into getting a better quality/quantity of girls "anti-game"? Lots of girls see nice car, nice clothes, big house like guys see big tits, tight ass, pretty face. Sure, there are guys that will depend entirely on their wealth to try and get girls, but it's not "anti-game" at all to use the trappings of money to get more and better women.

Agreed, a Lamborghini parked outside the street will attract girls in every country. Not anti game at all. What happens after is game.

Post: #123

I come from the top 1% in my country. I've never seen an instance where upper class girls had a LTR with a middle class guy. I'm sure they probably had drunk one night stands but thats about it. People usually date/marry within their social strata, having all the game in the world won't change that. When you're talking to the girls dad her dad is gonna open up topics about venture capital investing etc and you will have nothing to add to that conversation. You will be talking about getting the best deals for spare parts of your corolla while he'll be talking about if his brand new hybrid Mercedes is eligible for a tax break.

However I've seen plenty of instances where guys have dated below their social strata. This is actually very interesting. One of my friend who came from a very well off family dated a girl whos dad was a civil servant. Maybe its because of the culture in my country. Eastern culture differs from the west.

I myself have had mini relationships with middle class girls but I have never brought them home to introduce them to my parents. My mother would not like it if I dated a girl much below my social strata. It all comes down to eastern values. India,Turkey,Thailand, Korea,China in these countries social class is very important.

I've lived in Thailand, the norms are very similar to the ones in my country. I just don't see your middle class farang guy date an upper class girl unless he has huge things going for him. Imagine the girls dad owns Pizza store Chains in Bangkok, the girl introduces the guy to his father. The father will ask what is your job? What will you say? I'm an English Teacher?

90% that girl will be in for a huge scolding from her father. People love bragging in Eastern cultures. They love gossip. Like "ohh my girl is dating some wall street exec, my son is dating the heiress of xxx"

Post: #124

(06-01-2016 02:37 PM)RichieP Wrote:  ^leveraging what you have is one thing... "believing the hype" that you need to accrue X amount before getting a quality girl, is a limiting belief. OP is kinda pushing that here, let's be real.

Like Leighton says, he's on 50k baht a month and has a quality upper-class girl in BKK by leveraging other factors. IMO Men have more than enough limiting beliefs around money, so it's cool to emphasize the opposite and encourage people to focus on the higher ROI levers like game, style, social circle etc. Personally I think it's very cool to find these hacks and not toil away for years just to go the conventional unimaginative route of "stack millions then finally get a high quality girl". Especially in Thailand, that's insane.

Totally agree with you on the benefits of using game to life-hack your way ahead of the regular mating grind - I've done this for the past five years and have my friends and family wondering how I've consistently punched above my weight with girls. Buying myself a nice car, threads and upgrading the housing has only improved this trend, especially in conjunction with SA.

Personally, I didn't get the vibe from Rawmeo's original post that he was advocating a strict "stack cash and then you can get the girl" mentality. After all, the thread's title includes the phrase "wife-hunting". That leads me to believe that this data sheet is ostensibly geared towards finding a wife, not the equally worthy pursuit of going out and banging as many sluts as possible. Being a man of resources and prestige is a huge advantage to your viability as a suitable candidate for women and their families in any country on earth. I think that is a stance that few would argue against.

My general uneasiness about the whole "anti-game" comment extends to what I see as a witch-hunt mentality that's started to arise after the NTP debacle. People called out Rawmeo for lying about cash and then he came through by sending pics of cash and his Porsche along with an explanation of how he made that money. That's real talk and to the credit of some, they reneged their accusations and/or apologized... but even after all that, some are wondering if the pics are doctored, or if his business is legit, etc. To me, that's just being a hater and is most likely confirmation bias that "Rawmeo must not have any game because he's got money and he's using it to get girls".

Post: #125

I spoke with Rawmeo last year and he seemed like a helpful and knowledgable guy to me. The topic of his money came up, and at first I was legitimately surprised, but then I had a good laugh over it.

I'm not sure where all the hate comes from. Some visa stuff was wrong, talks about needing a class/teacher to learn Thai fluently, soccer mom Porsches labeled supercars. Who cares. Game trumps money, hands down. Luckily everyone on this forum can improve their game one way or another.

What I was most amazed of, however, was his harem cabinet/rape dungeon Josef Fritzl style. He's got cubbies for his harems' toiletries, cosmetics, etc. I think some of them sleep there too. I'm waiting for him to bust out the datasheet on that. That's next level.