Post: #1

With me starting the MDA Primal Challenge 2011 and Roosh's recent thread on it.. I thought we could combine ideas here.

I am mainly looking for advice on how to cross over from the massive carb intake with out losing tons of energy.

Post: #2

The Primal Blueprint has some.

Post: #3

You don't have to be low carb on the Paleo diet. The Kitavan tribe certainly isn't, nor were the Hawaiians, Tokalauans, or Maori originally. Go ahead and eat a lot of sweet potato, yam, and other tubers like taro.

My usual strategy with habit change is to do one thing at a time, so you don't try to tackle a huge amount of changes that might tempt you to quit. If you are attempting to massively reduce your carb intake at the same time you're attempting to eat Paleo foods, I might call that two things. So you could try first switching over to Paleo foods for 30 days with a more moderate carbohydrate intake. In another 30 days, if you want to reduce carbohydrate for some reason, go ahead and tackle that.

If you're looking for recipes, there's a blog by this girl Nell Stephenson who posts a lot of recipes.

Post: #4

If you're interested in hitting up the desserts:

cinnamon cookies: http://comfybelly.com/2009/06/cinnamon-c...lutenfree/
peanut butter cookies: http://www.livestrong.com/recipes/almond...cookies-4/
basic biscotti: http://comfybelly.com/2009/03/biscotti-w...ond-flour/
chocolate biscotti: http://comfybelly.com/2009/03/chocolate-...ond-flour/
pecan shortbread cookies: http://www.elanaspantry.com/pecan-shortbread-cookies/

Depending on your goals, the recipes above might not fit your diet. They are made with almond flour and typically use honey as a sweetener.

The first recipe above is fantastic. When I was true paleo (I've since eased due to needing more carbs for intense workouts) I used to eat those cinnamon cookies all the time. It's a little difficult to play with the texture once the ingredients are mixed because it's sticky, but just roll them around in your hand and make a little ball (half a golf ball), put it on the tray with parchment paper (to prevent sticking), then rub some canola oil on your fork so it doesn't stick and press the fork on the ball of dough criss-crossed to flatten it. Guaranteed to please and absolutely no wheat or white sugar.

Post: #5

I'd like to bump this thread if I can.

I follow a primal/paleo lifestyle in terms of my food and exercises choices which works really well for me, however sometimes I'm a little stuck and find that my food choices are limited.

If any of you are also eating in the same style, perhaps you could post your favourite go-to meal and how to prepare it.

Personally, I don't like to eat anything that takes longer to prepare than it takes to cook so I'm a big fan of chopped on the vine tomatoes, campagna di buffla mozarella and avocado. Add olive oil and pepper and you're good to go.

I'd be interested in other people's paleo/primal staples.

Thanks! SP

Post: #6

(05-28-2016 11:00 AM)Ski pro Wrote:  I'd be interested in other people's paleo/primal staples.

Hey Ski Pro, for breakfast this morning i cooked a pork chop until almost done, then cut into a square shape where I dropped a couple of eggs, in the middle of the square, so it would hold the eggs. Put a lid on for about five or six more minutes and then ate it when the eggs were done but the yellow still a little runny. I also had a slice of avocado. I cut the avocado into slices and put them in a container with some lime or lemon juice so they don't brown and I can have small amounts with meals.

G

Post: #7

Most of what I eat would fall into paleo, but I don't really have a choice. I live way out there, and if I want to go to a restaurant I have to jump on a plane. There's a little store that sells the basics, but it is mostly junk food and the prices are insane. You can't afford to buy your food at the village stores!! You have to get it yourself.

I have a croc pot, a little pot for boiling water, and a cast iron Dutch oven. That's it for cooking. I have to make every single meal, otherwise I don't eat. It gets really tiring after a while, and when I go to town I go crazy and run up $60 lunch tabs eating out, sometimes 2 or 3 times a day. Or I'll go to a grocery store and just walk around for hours, looking at all the food and buying way too much. When you are deprived of a resource, it's crazy how you react to it when it's in abundance. It's a sensory overload.

The food changes with the seasons. Summer it's salmon (king and silvers) and bear, fall it's moose and duck, winter it's rabbit, spring is duck, goose, beaver, and caribou. Depending where you live, there will be different seasons / food available. I get tired of the same food over and over. Isn't there something in paleo about changing your diet with the seasons vs eating the same food over and over?? And if you were to ask me what tastes the best, it changes. I love the king salmon. I also love moose. Rabbit has the strongest taste (in a good way). And beaver is actually really good...so my favorite food changes all the time. I've had farm raised rabbit before and I didn't like it as much, and it tastes nothing like the wild rabbits I eat now. I attribute that to the type of food the wild rabbits eat in the winter- bark on willows and shrubs. Beaver in the spring tastes better than beaver in late fall. And black bear tastes best when there are lots of berries around. I've never had brown bear, and I hear it tastes like rotten meat (which is exactly what it eats). You lose that natural seasonal variance and taste variance when you eat farm raised food.

I like do two things- grind the meat and store it in small, easy to prepare meal-sized packages. I have a process where I've always got something thawing out in the fridge, and I can make a meal in 5 minutes. Nothing worse than wanting to have a quick meal and having to deal with a huge chunk of frozen meat. It's a bitch grinding all your meat, and it's and extra step in the whole process, but believe me it's worth it. Ground meat is easiest for me to thaw and cook, and I like mixing in the animal's fat (especially the thin lining from the stomach) so it tastes really good. The last moose I got I ground about a quarter of the meat with some fat...I should have ground the whole thing, it was so good! A quality grinder is heavy (maybe 50lbs or more) and will run you around $500+. I also have a light weight grinder off amazon, and I'm just waiting for that motor to burn out. It might be good for grinding a chicken once a year, but it can't take anything more than that.

I also use a pressure cooker for jars. You put the salmon or moose in the jars and cook it, and it's a great tasting, instant meal no matter where you are or where you go. I don't like to let the jars go over 1 year, but that stuff can last for years if done right. A pressure cooker for jars will run you about $300.

I don't use many spices. I use the fat. I like to taste the animal.

Depending on where you live and what is available, I would try and find bulk meat that you can get at wholesale prices. Are there farms nearby?? Goats, cows, sheep, pigs, chickens...see what you can get your hands on. Do you ever eat the organs and head meat? I like moose tongue, cheek, and nose. You could probably find beef tongue at a store, and if lucky you might be able to find pork jowl. If you can try and find heart, kidney, and liver. Moose kidney is my favorite of all the organs. Another thing to try is bone marrow. Here we cut the moose bones in 3 inch chunks, and you boil those in a soup or broth and it tastes amazing. You will have to look around, but you might be able to find soup bones at a store. If not, find a farmer and have them cut you some.

Time breakdown-
Getting food (days, up to two weeks)
Preparing, cutting, and storing food (days, up to a week)
Cooking and eating food (as fast as 5 minutes if ground, up to all day if using croc pot)

Last night I ate swan neck and swan gizzard cooked in the Dutch oven, and tonight I'm eating ground caribou. It's quick, just heat and eat!

Post: #8

Frozen ace, your post really sparked my interest. I looked at your other posts and you seem to live a very different lifestyle than probably 99% of the board.

Have you considered starting you own thread about why you decided to live in such a remote location and how to do it, how you support yourself, what your day looks like, and so on? I find this topic fascinating and would love to read more.

Post: #9

(05-28-2016 06:12 PM)Ringo Wrote:  Frozen ace, your post really sparked my interest. I looked at your other posts and you seem to live a very different lifestyle than probably 99% of the board.

Have you considered starting you own thread about why you decided to live in such a remote location and how to do it, how you support yourself, what your day looks like, and so on? I find this topic fascinating and would love to read more.

I just randomly stopped by this thread. I'd be interested in this too. Also, what do you do about women?

Post: #10

In 2-3 weeks I'll be back in town with good internet connection, I'll bring my computer and get something up.

Post: #11

I just ate soft boiled eggs with cream cheese basil and jalapeno sardines.

Post: #12

Bacon and egg breakfast chili

If I make a pot of this I have breakfast for the week. I add some green pepper too. The rest of the site Health-Bent has some really good recipes. Just ignore the mommy blogger bullshit.

Post: #13

(05-31-2016 07:10 AM)J. Spice Wrote:  Bacon and egg breakfast chili

If I make a pot of this I have breakfast for the week.

Fuck yes. That's what I'm talking about. Thanks for sharing.

Post: #14

I thought the whole point of paleo was to not cook anything. Interesting.

Post: #15

(05-31-2016 07:10 AM)J. Spice Wrote:  Bacon and egg breakfast chili

If I make a pot of this I have breakfast for the week. I add some green pepper too. The rest of the site Health-Bent has some really good recipes. Just ignore the mommy blogger bullshit.

That's a good one. Thanks for sharing.

Post: #16

My main paleo tip is to have plenty of non processed carbs on hand when cooking so you don't need bread or pasta. Some of my favorites are rice-all kinds (basmati, brown short/long, white sushi rice), potatoes-usually red or sweet, both are under a dollar a pound, egg noodles, plantains are a huge favorite-fried, baked, steamed-also <$1 per #. Go to meats are usually Ahi tuna steaks, Mahi-Mahi, wild sock-eyed salmon (Pacific, all Atlantic Salmon is farmed), Lamb, Chicken quarters @ 50 cents a lb., grass fed steak or ground, and other wild seafood like Octopus, Red-Snapper, Shrimp and Calamari.

As far as recipes go I enjoy watching cooking shows on PBS and just adjusting the recipes to my taste and available ingredients. Once you learn to cook well you don't really need recipes you just whip whatever you have in the pantry and fridge into a balanced meal. Also look to vegetables and legumes that have protein in them as opposed to using carbs as side dishes. Once you eliminate most of the processed carbs and sugars out of your diet, your gut flora will adjust accordingly and you will crave it less and also be able to enjoy it responsibly in small to moderate amounts.

I believe most grains nowadays, in the US at least, are quite unhealthy and not similar to the "wild" grains humans evolved eating. Substituting other flours like Garbanzo bean, Coconut, Almond, and others, allow you to still enjoy the pleasure of bread without the unhealthy additives ingested by using Monsanto Franken-Wheat. Nothing like home made flatbreads.

Post: #17

I have a bit of an on again off again affair with paleo. On the one hand I feel like a machine when I eat this way, but I can not sustain my current levels of exercise without spending north of $500/mo on groceries so I supplement with dairy based protein powders and whole milk. I don't really have any recipes, as I just buy a shitload of fresh fruit/veg and meats and grill or roast them. Part of paleo is not eating BS so I don't buy into using the various nut flours as a replacement for shit I shouldn't be eating anyway.

Chowstalker is a recipe aggregator that you can filter by type of diet (GF, paleo, etc) if I get bored I check it out for some inspiration.

Post: #18

can i do a paleo diet on $50 of groceries a week? I wanna start Muay Thai and drop my baby fat.

Post: #19

(05-31-2016 05:16 PM)WalkingMan Wrote:  can i do a paleo diet on $50 of groceries a week? I wanna start Muay Thai and drop my baby fat.

For me it would be tough with my daily intake but I would start by:

A. Determining your daily caloric intake

B. What your macros will need to be (protein/carb/fat)

$50/week is going to limit you in your food selection depending on how much you need, but if you buy cheaper proteins in bulk on sale you might be able to swing it.

Post: #20

There is no doubt that eating in this way is more expensive. You go into any supermarket and there are aisles of processed food that is cheap but terrible for you to eat.

Unfortunately there is a premium to pay to eat well but there are ways to counter it such as buying meat in bulk. Personally I would rather spend more on good quality food and feel good than eat processed stuff the can live for years at a time in a box.