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Moma 路 2016-05-06 16:40:00 路 #1976
(05-06-2016 02:55 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  Have y'all had any issues renting Airbnb in different countries?

WIA

No, I just had my first experience recently in another country and I have nothing but praises. Why do you ask?
DimeBait 路 2016-05-06 16:50:00 路 #1977
(05-06-2016 04:40 PM)Moma Wrote:  
(05-06-2016 02:55 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  Have y'all had any issues renting Airbnb in different countries?

WIA

No, I just had my first experience recently in another country and I have nothing but praises. Why do you ask?

They just released a study yesterday where I believe 30% of black AirBnB'ers experienced racism getting places to stay.

I haven't tried it yet, but I can see this happening. On another note, I'm thinking of simply renting apartments in highly desired areas and just rent it out the majority of time through AirBnB to supplement my income and give me a place to chill when out of town on business or pleasure.
DMario 路 2016-05-06 17:08:00 路 #1978
I've used AirBNB all over Europe, Asia, and Australia. The only time I've ever been denied was trying to find a place on New Years Eve.
azulsombra 路 2016-05-06 17:40:00 路 #1979
(05-06-2016 04:50 PM)DimeBait Wrote:  
(05-06-2016 04:40 PM)Moma Wrote:  
(05-06-2016 02:55 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  Have y'all had any issues renting Airbnb in different countries?

WIA

No, I just had my first experience recently in another country and I have nothing but praises. Why do you ask?

They just released a study yesterday where I believe 30% of black AirBnB'ers experienced racism getting places to stay.

I haven't tried it yet, but I can see this happening. On another note, I'm thinking of simply renting apartments in highly desired areas and just rent it out the majority of time through AirBnB to supplement my income and give me a place to chill when out of town on business or pleasure.

30%?

If that's in the States it wouldn't surprise me. Unofficial racial discrimination in rentals and home purchases is nothing new. I don't see why people would think AirBnB would be any different and people's biases would just disappear.
Iso 路 2016-05-06 19:33:00 路 #1980
(05-06-2016 02:55 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  Have y'all had any issues renting Airbnb in different countries?

WIA

That's interesting that you asked. I had an experience like that within the last year. I traveled to Europe and attempted to rent out a place on AirBnb. Did you know that Airbnb makes you put up a photo of your facebook profile so that the host can see it? When I did that, the host replied that the place was not available anymore. Hmmm interesting coincidence.
rudebwoy 路 2016-05-06 19:35:00 路 #1981
Let's not get into another race debate.

This is a game forum about self improvement and finding options for men.
Iso 路 2016-05-06 19:44:00 路 #1982
Regarding the Carlton conversation,

What kind of clothing/accessories do you think a black man who is lame like Carlton can wear to give themselves more of an edge, without having to dress thugged out.
rudebwoy 路 2016-05-06 20:03:00 路 #1983
The Carlton look is simply a preppy look, there is nothing wrong with that look. The problem is Carlton came across goofy and liked singing to Tom Jones.

If you have the lifestyle that reflects a preppy look, then I say go for it.

Any look you choose must be congruent with who you are, dressing like a thug and working in I.T seems out of place. You wouldn't get a neck tattoo and work in a law office.

As for accessories, I would say a nice quality watch would be nice and maybe a nice bracelet or necklace.

For me I like to wear dickies pants and converse shoes (Purcells) on the weekend. As for accessories, I have a leather bracelet and have been contemplating those bead bracelets that are popular now. I am still in the market for a nice timepiece, I had a vintage Heuer that I stupidly sold a few years back. They have gone up in price.
262 路 2016-05-07 02:38:00 路 #1984
(05-06-2016 02:55 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  Have y'all had any issues renting Airbnb in different countries?

WIA

No issues in Gdansk, Paris, or Warsaw as a Mexican-looking guy.

Like Fury said, most folks care more about the color of your money than the color of your skin.
kirdiesel 路 2016-05-07 06:13:00 路 #1985
(05-06-2016 07:49 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  Not today

Do you keep things at your place specifically for "guests" that you entertain? Stuff that you'll never use?

Katt Williams said he kept a bottle of hypnotic just for broads.

After that, I started keeping contact solution at the spot.

WIA

(05-06-2016 07:44 PM)Iso Wrote:  Regarding the Carlton conversation,

What kind of clothing/accessories do you think a black man who is lame like Carlton can wear to give themselves more of an edge, without having to dress thugged out.

There was nothing wrong with his style actually... I prefer something more fashionable though. I will really have to start posting stuff from Instagram here.
frenchcorporation 路 2016-05-07 07:32:00 路 #1986
(05-06-2016 02:55 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  Have y'all had any issues renting Airbnb in different countries?

WIA

No problems in hungary, spain, denmark. If anyone is having trouble getting places for whatever reason I'd reccomend picking a more expensive airbnb place, they seem to get less booked than the cheaper places.

Also, guys should filter airbnb accomodation by the "instant book" option. Worst case scenario, the host cancels the booking, and airbnb give you some extra store credit/money for your next successful booking. So in this case, getting rejected will effectively make you money.

If anyone does come accross racist airbnb hosts, post them here, some free money from airbnb would be nice
Rang off the Pipe 路 2016-05-07 07:33:00 路 #1987
I'm a big believer in the power of hats and scarves and accessories like pocket squares. They can really add some flair to an otherwise normal outfit depending on the kind of attire (and as long as the colors match). Don't be afraid to use them to give off a certain image.
kirdiesel 路 2016-05-07 09:32:00 路 #1988
Do you any of you have women in your social circle that don't find black men attractive?

Does it offend you at all? I've had a German chick recently confide in me telling me that she just doesn't find black guys appealing at all.

I'm not sure how I feel about it. On one side I feel its racist but on one side I feel like people have the right to their preferences.
BassPlayaYo 路 2016-05-07 09:36:00 路 #1989
(05-07-2016 09:32 AM)kirdiesel Wrote:  Do you any of you have women in your social circle that don't find black men attractive?

Does it offend you at all? I've had a German chick recently confide in me telling me that she just doesn't find black guys appealing at all.

I'm not sure how I feel about it. On one side I feel its racist but on one side I feel like people have the right to their preferences.

I would say this chick is lying to you.
Moma 路 2016-05-07 09:39:00 路 #1990
(05-07-2016 09:32 AM)kirdiesel Wrote:  Do you any of you have women in your social circle that don't find black men attractive?

Does it offend you at all? I've had a German chick recently confide in me telling me that she just doesn't find black guys appealing at all.

I'm not sure how I feel about it. On one side I feel its racist but on one side I feel like people have the right to their preferences.

Black men is such a wide scope. Is she not attracted to the skin tone? Because that is really the only thing globally that unifies black men. Behaviour is not universal. I would ask questions to find out. Often when I convey my preference, I find the lizards tone eventually changes because most lizards want to be desired to some degree.
WestIndianArchie 路 2016-05-07 09:57:00 路 #1991
(05-07-2016 07:33 AM)Rang off the Pipe Wrote:  I'm a big believer in the power of hats and scarves and accessories like pocket squares. They can really add some flair to an otherwise normal outfit depending on the kind of attire (and as long as the colors match). Don't be afraid to use them to give off a certain image.

HATS
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Lapel Flower (with complementary square and tie)
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Sunglasses as accessory
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Pocket Squares
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When you give no fucks
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WestIndianArchie 路 2016-05-07 10:14:00 路 #1992
(05-06-2016 07:44 PM)Iso Wrote:  Regarding the Carlton conversation,

What kind of clothing/accessories do you think a black man who is lame like Carlton can wear to give themselves more of an edge, without having to dress thugged out.

Every guy has about four options when it comes to style

1) GQ/Classic/Suited Up Style

2) Designer - Dressing to the trends and designers of the day.

3) Casual/Athletic - aka the default - it's hard to look great in this without a lot of money, or time spent looking for the perfect shoes. Most of the time you end up looking like a drab version of the stars.

4) Tribal Membership - If you are a rapper, biker, skater, soccer player (soccer players have looks with those indoor Adidas and generally a sleek, fitting European look). ETC. When someone looks at you, they describe you as the thing that you're into. "He's a surfer. He's a rockabilly..."

What's interesting is that brothers can adopt looks and make them their own.

For instance, TI and a lot of the Atlanta guys of his era are really into the Ralph Lauren Polo look. Young Dro comes to mind. That's plaid shirts, polo jeans, polo boots....

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Even if you don't know who they are, the juxtaposition of a physically fit black man in white prep school wear is an aesthetic.

Contrast that with the Black models that Ralph Lauren actually uses

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I reiterate, you can think of the look as the intro, the trailer to your movie. But the Simpsons typically starts with an opening bit that leads to an entirely different story.

Ultimately the story that you tell is the most important part. Your look can be consistent with the story, or just the beginning of the tale.

For me, I go for this aesthetic most of the time

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WIA
Fortis 路 2016-05-07 10:37:00 路 #1993
(05-07-2016 09:39 AM)Moma Wrote:  
(05-07-2016 09:32 AM)kirdiesel Wrote:  Do you any of you have women in your social circle that don't find black men attractive?

Does it offend you at all? I've had a German chick recently confide in me telling me that she just doesn't find black guys appealing at all.

I'm not sure how I feel about it. On one side I feel its racist but on one side I feel like people have the right to their preferences.

Black men is such a wide scope. Is she not attracted to the skin tone? Because that is really the only thing globally that unifies black men. Behaviour is not universal. I would ask questions to find out. Often when I convey my preference, I find the lizards tone eventually changes because most lizards want to be desired to some degree.

Guys have already attacked the "she doesn't like black people" thing to death. A lot of girls will talk that game in front of their white/indian/asian/martian friends but when you get her in front of a black man with a modicum of game she'll fuck him if she thinks she can get away with it. lol

There is a black player on this forum who banged a white chick whose father was the leader of the local Nazi group in whatever city it was. So I'm really not that phased when I hear some chick tell me or someone they don't like black men. It just seems like a huge shit test to me.

That might be delusional on my part, but I don't buy it. Remember the basic game rule: watch what they do, not what they say.
Anabasis to Desta 路 2016-05-07 10:47:00 路 #1994
^ Agree completely but the chick is German.

German girls don't lie. They are extremely honest to both themselves and other people. So I'm pretty sure she meant it when she mentioned she does not like black men.

Either way i don't know why it bothers guys so much. It's her right to fuck who she likes. The fact that some random chicks comment bothers guys so much is testament to white girl pedestalization we've talked about. Would it bother you as much if an Eskimo chick said the same? This white girl approval seeking behavior of most black men disgusts me. Asian and Indian Americans are worse actually.
Fortis 路 2016-05-07 10:51:00 路 #1995
^ I wouldn't know anything about german chicks, but if she's being real then there's nothing you can do about it. Still sticking to my guns and saying that it's most likely a shit test.
DjembaDjemba 路 2016-05-07 11:35:00 路 #1996
Don't sweat it guys, I've hooked up with a girl who's dad spent time in a Florida prison where he became an ardent militant white nationalist. Didn't stop her succumbing to game, or dick, or curiosity, or all those things.

Been in an LTR with a girl for years who's dad refers to blacks as 'the negros'. Doesn't stop her from wanting to get pregnant by certain half negro.

It goes back to basics...what do you have to bring to the table?
DimeBait 路 2016-05-07 11:57:00 路 #1997
I agree with the overall sentiment, who fucking cares. Honestly, I don't like YT girls, but I will fuck the shit outta one. Better put, I'm not socially attracted to YT women, but I'm physically attracted to anything with a vagina.
rudebwoy 路 2016-05-07 12:17:00 路 #1998
AirBnB - used in Croatia, great experience.

Girl doesn't like Black guys - her loss not mine. I don't like every white girl, far from it.

When was the last time you guys did a cold approach?

Are all your dates from Internet? (Tinder)

When was the last time you booked a trip and went solo? (without consulting anyone)

How about hitting a club solo!
Moma 路 2016-05-07 13:20:00 路 #1999
(05-07-2016 12:17 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  AirBnB - used in Croatia, great experience.

Girl doesn't like Black guys - her loss not mine. I don't like every white girl, far from it.

When was the last time you guys did a cold approach?

Are all your dates from Internet? (Tinder)

When was the last time you booked a trip and went solo? (without consulting anyone)

How about hitting a club solo!

Amen, my brother! This is it! 100%
SuS 路 2016-05-07 13:42:00 路 #2000
(05-07-2016 10:37 AM)Fortis Wrote:  Guys have already attacked the "she doesn't like black people" thing to death. A lot of girls will talk that game in front of their white/indian/asian/martian friends but when you get her in front of a black man with a modicum of game she'll fuck him if she thinks she can get away with it. lol
Not to disagree, but if this was a gospel truth, Tinder would be a haven for non-black females sneaking in black dick in the middle of night. But as we all know, it's anything but. Not to say it's impossible, but it doesn't help when you're getting 1 lay per 250 swipes.

(05-07-2016 12:17 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  Girl doesn't like Black guys - her loss not mine. I don't like every white girl, far from it.
That's fine when the hate comes from the minority like in Canada, Australia, Japan, or Europe. But when you're battling an image of being poor, violent, and crude from the outside while being a cornball, square, and a lame from your own side, then it starts to matter.

Quote:When was the last time you guys did a cold approach?
Whereas everyone else of every ethnic group can use social circle game, IOIs, or even getting approached. Teach me how to effectively game while I can enjoy my life without spending thousands of hours "putting myself out there". How can a person like myself gain a social circle, get IOIs out of the ass, and getting approached to the point where I can focus on things I actually like and love doing knowing that pussy will always be on deck? That IMO is real "Game" instead of chasing after hos like a desperate salesman or begging dog.

Quote:Are all your dates from Internet? (Tinder)
When you can't build a social circle because you were raised in an quasi-hood suburb and refused to be a deadhead failure, along with being forced to spend the majority of college and post-college in one of the most anti non-stereotypical black region in America, you really don't have a lot of options.

Quote:When was the last time you booked a trip and went solo? (without consulting anyone)
Traveling does wonders for one's mental state, but that does take money. But in that case, I'll admit that unlike other things, you can control how much money you can make. So I'll just have to step it up on that.

Quote:How about hitting a club solo!
Honestly, I feel like shit in nightclubs as is with dealing with the worse of society like popped-collar douches and stuck-up cunts. I also don't like dancing - which apparently every black man is SUPPOSED to do by instinct - and much less approaching a bitch to dance with just to either get off on shooting me down or feeding her ego. And going to a club solo when everyone else has is arriving with a clique just gives me grief like nothing else. And with white American chodes subtly checking their (and all other ethnic) women, I get very discouraged with pulling anything, hence seeing that as a complete waste of time.

Not to tear you down personally, but I just want people to see a different perspective. A lot of what I've heard from you and others have been on-point. But whereas I hear other races can get away with passive game (old school Roissy, Tom Leykis, etc), black men always have to go out of their way and waste hours to do the "holla at a ho", "swag it out", and the "up in da club" game to stand a chance. But I just simply can't do the "dance/club/swag game" shit like every other black man is apparently supposed to do via genetics; it's just mentally draining for me! I went to a nightclub last night and tried to game, but it was a waste of time and is just making me feel like shit today. While every other race can dance like shit and still get girls (especially whites worshipping Asian cunts - they really make my blood boil and heart palpitate), I have to have "yo yo swag dance" game to get noticed, which I don't feel comfortable with as I see it as the epitome of "cooning".

You can call this a cry for help, but I just need to really know how to game in a way I feel comfortable with. And while the podcast have been useful, what I'm hearing seems more applicable on an international scale.
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