http://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/a...lenkt.html

Quote:Majority of Germans holding media for steered
Six out of ten Germans believe that politics and business to influence the media. The "fourth power" is perceived according to a survey as part of the establishment.

"As an actor in the background  apply particular policies (government and parties) and economy (lobbying and pressure from advertisers)," it says. More than half of respondents (55 percent) also stated from their view controlled the "powerful" in the country - so state, government, business, influential people and stakeholders - the news media.

The study, published by the BR on the Internet, says in the conclusion of a general "discomfort with politics, economics and other social elites, which now manifests itself offensively in the wake of crises in recent years."

This discomfort also covers the media, because they are perceived as "part of the system". "The impression that the media support the establishment or be steered even by him, give this dilemma more rise."

So was not even half of respondents (49 percent), that media reproduced issues as they really are.

Among the biggest deficits of the news media counting that from the perspective of respondents too much is reported about problems and too little about solutions - 76 percent chose the answer "totally / rather". In addition, simplified media matters too much and so widespread prejudice (66 percent).

And they went to little on consequences of the decisions of politicians and business leaders for the people, a (61 percent). Moreover is a majority (60 percent) of respondents believe that media ausblendeten legitimate opinions, which they considered undesirable.

The discomfort with the system rise.

(05-01-2016 08:52 AM)Khan Wrote:  

(04-30-2016 06:54 PM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  

Look at that substantial drop in fertility rate in the late 1960s and early 1970s. Is it because of the Baby boomer generation of women entering adulthood, or is there something else involved in this?

Modern feminism, cultural engineering and active disruption of the family/traditional lifestyle.

(04-28-2016 06:20 AM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  I think there is a big difference of cheering them on and wanting to date them. Western men not only tend to look better, they also have more resources and higher intellect.

Back in my hometown, there's a large number of young couples consisting of Sudanese Immigrant Man / Skinny White Girl. They've always got multiple young children.

Women love both Danger and Drama. They also adore movies about Medicore White Chicks experiencing about Racial Discrimination via a Proxy whose goodness and earthy wisdom is savagely-ignored due to them possessing different skin pigmentation. They also love feeling Hard Done By and Oppressed, even when their life is one of Elevation and Privilige.

I can see the attraction for them.

Interestingly, a mate back home told me there was a drive-by down the road from his house the other day. I've been checking the local paper online: it's all feel-good stories about painting murals and kittens. I only found reportage of the event from a paper on the other side of the country, which means, it made the news wire services. It's certainly-unusual it wasn't mentioned locally, similar to how a man who didn't fire gunshots that everyone must have mistakenly-heard and who didn't possess a weapon was charged with firearm offences.

Doublethink Days...

double post

(05-01-2016 10:41 AM)redpillage Wrote:  

(05-01-2016 08:52 AM)Khan Wrote:  

(04-30-2016 06:54 PM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  

Look at that substantial drop in fertility rate in the late 1960s and early 1970s. Is it because of the Baby boomer generation of women entering adulthood, or is there something else involved in this?

Great - more ammunition for the globalists.

Housing: The problem is that housing in Germany is sinfully expensive and always has been - nobody ever gave a shit. I remember standing in line to be shown a little shit apartment in Munich back in the late 1980s. You had to pay one month to the agent and three months deposit to the owner and then of course the first month's rent. So if you wanted to move into a DM500 apartment you were out of at least DM2500. And the agent fee you never got back of course. And most of the time the f...ing owner found some scratch on the wall and used that as an excuse to withhold a big amount of your deposit if not all of it. I myself am a very clean person but have never once gotten any of my deposits back - it was (and probably still is) just an extra bonus for the owner. May I add that this was during an economic recession where we had folks with PhDs drive taxis or work as waiters in order to survive. Back then a popular joke was that you needed a PhD in order to drive a taxi in Munich :-)

Children: Even back then real estate agents and owners were openly hostile to children - they just wanted to rent to couples without children or single people. So even if you had excellent referrals and enough in your bank account to cover the ridiculous fees involved then finding an apartment was still a super stressful ordeal. A person in the United States is expected to move 11.4 times in his lifetime on average. I don't have any pertinent statistics but I would bet good money that it's around half of that for the average German. It has always been a very densely populated country and that affects birthrates of course. Germany is geographically smaller than France but has a larger population - about 80 Million. And the migration crisis has not helped matters any bit.

So why would people want to have more than 1 or 2 children - if any at all? Most Germans are not rich and actually live paycheck to paycheck. They used to be savers but that's all ancient history now. They spend their money on vacations, nice cars, and perhaps on their dog or cat. Raising a large family would require two very significant incomes these days. And taxation is high, a lot of which now is being funneled into migration and not into local infrastructure or supporting German families. And that's absolutely fine * because there isn't any fucking space left! *

All this talk about how Germany won't exist anymore in a few generation has been complete horse-wash as demographic trends are not linear. Think about what happened after the 2nd world war when workers were needed and so many German men had died in battle? All of a sudden we had an explosion in population growth - the baby boomers. I actually wonder how many of those kids were the result of GIs raping or just having fun - otherwise there were some very busy alphas in post-war Germany ;-)

German natives would have big families again if housing was super affordable and there were was an incentive. But they don't because on top of the financial dimension popular culture teaches women to emulate men (many even look like men) and men to be anything but. Not exactly the recipe for population growth ;-)

But as I hinted already above. It's all bullshit anyway because there is no problem at all with a reduction in population. Did anyone worry about Germans dying out in 1960? No fucking way - but back then there were only 73 Million of them. The same amount to be projected in about 2045 - almost thirty years from now. A LOT can happen until then and it only takes one fertile generation to change those projections completely.

OR an artificial repopulation via immigration. As intelligent as the average German may be, somehow the country has fallen for the long con of the globalists which is to completely destroy German culture by breeding it out of existence. Germany would be just fine with less children for a few generations. Once you can get a large apartment in Munich for €500 or less you'll see Kindergartens fill up in a jiffy again.

Of course that won't ever happen - unless those kids are called Ahmed or Mohammed.

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Housing is DEFINITELY NOT the issue. Housing in France is actually much more expensive than in Germany (well over 2x), and the housing market is just as rigid as in Germany (lots of red tape!).

http://www.globalpropertyguide.com/Europ...ter-prices

Yet France still has a much higher birthrate than Germany, despite the fact that the unemployment rate in France has been around double that of Germany, for a long time now, as France has had a structural unemployment issue due to its rigid labor regulations.

The problem is cultural. France has preserved its culture better in the post-war era. I've spent a lot of time there, and some time in Germany too. Germany is much more Americanized, especially in its k-12 education system. In Germany, school lets out early in the afternoon, and kids don't respect their teachers, it feels like an American HS. In France, kids go to class Saturday mornings (till not too long ago), and they stand up when the principal walks in into the classroom.

Men and women want to start families and have kids, especially outside of Paris. There was a huge popular uprising against gay marriage, which ended up being shoved down people's throats by the current Socialist regime, though most leaders from the center-right cuck for it too.

Germany was brutally repressed in the postwar era, hundreds of thousands of Germans died after WW2 in Allied concentration camps set up under the Morgenthau Plan (see James Bacque's work, https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-55460...pid1290157 ). Morgenthau, who was very influential in Roosevelt's administration, wanted initially to completely de-industrialize and depopulate Germany, he only got part of his wishes granted. Germany was under occupation, and that slate was wiped clean, with a lot of work going into social engineering. You see that in the 60s with the emergence of radical groups and the world's leading Green party.

France in contrast was a tougher nut to crack culturally, and Charles de Gaule, who led the country for decades post-war, standing guard and limiting the influences of both superpowers on his country. Until the events of Mai 68, that was one of the original color revolutions in Europe. Soros' playbook has been around for a long time...

They destabilized de Gaule's government, and opened the door for a more Atlantist regime and constitution, and eventually by the 1970s, a Fed-style semi-private opaque fractional reserve system was set up by president Pompidou, who came in from the Rothschild Bank. the globalists got a major foothold. Incidentally the current finance minister, Macron, is also a Rothschild minion man.

You now have a bunch of token minority socialist cabinet members pushing gender studies, a gay lobby taking over venerable newspapers like Le Monde and shit social engineering humming along all over the media system, but it's not getting nearly as much traction as in the UK or northern Europe. Marine le Pen is fighting the good fight, an uphill battle for sure, by comparison Trump has been getting kid glove treatment.

While the trend is not very good, the French are still clinging to their tried and true values: good food, great wines, stylish feminine women, and family. Even though fewer people are attending church and couples are shaking up more and more, French women still want to raise families, especially in the "province" (outside of Paris). France still has a healthy birth rate.

As to the Arabs, the main group is the 2nd-gen north Africans whose parents were brought in in the 50s and 60s by big business in order to dilute the labor pool. Those that managed to get by economically are integrating, with nearly half marrying native spouses, while those stuck in the ghettos are clustering and contributing to the problem. Relative to its population size though, France hasn't been taking a lot of new immigrants, most migrants are heading north to the UK. It's the 2nd gen Arabs that are the problem, or at least the ones still stuck in the "banlieue" ghettos.

@911: good recap, though I'm very skeptical of French "healthy birth rate".

Since the socialist tyrants outlaws any type of race-related data, there's no way of calculating how much of the birth rate is from local ethnic women, or at least from well-integrated ethnic group (poles, italiens, portuguese, asians to a lesser degree) and how much the rate is inflated by African/Arab popping out 3 kids.

About the "provinces": unlike America, France is not a fly-over country. I agree that the real "provinces" people are much more traditional, but they are shrinking. According to INSEE (French national authority on all things statistic/demo), 95% French live "under city's influence" and 79% actually live in a city.
http://www.insee.fr/fr/themes/document.a..._id=ip1374

And if those cities are becoming more and more liberal hellholes (Paris/Lyon/Marseille) the demographics table are rapidly turning against the French. Not to mention France makes it EXTREMELY hard for middle class, tax-paying foreigners to live and work here, while making it EXTREMELY easy for the "hors la loi" to leech off of society. Tales of cute French girls dating chronically-deported africans are becoming a common now.

Agree that Le Pen is fighting Normandy landing while Trump is fighting a skirmish. Always has to leave it to a woman to fight for France's future in this country.....

http://www.oe24.at/oesterreich/chronik/O.../233876512

http://www.oe24.at/oesterreich/chronik/T.../232386260

Quote:Although the strongly suspects in the case of choking in January in Vienna-Wieden au pair girl Lauren M. (25) extricates, the murder charge against him seems watertight. The evidence against the Gambier Abdou I. (24) is overwhelming. In June he face trial.

The prosecution is based on jealousy as a motive. The Gambier has almost caught his on-off relationship in the act with another. It was a young Afghan refugee, only 15 years old. He was invited with his brother at Lauren and stayed overnight.

Quote:The man who is suspected of having killed in January in Vienna an American au pair girl, was not confessed in an interrogation at the police station. He denies having anything to do with the death of the young woman. However, a DNA trace charged the suspect.

Like this American girl in Italy that got her skull crushed by an immigrant when she did cheat on her boyfriend.

But actually, more like 20% - 35% of the "refugees" are actually islamist muslim soldiers

And the majority of them are Muslims, which is a much bigger problem than terrorism. They may not chop your head off, but they still want Sharia law and will demographically conquer you.

(05-03-2016 06:31 AM)pharao Wrote:  


But actually, more like 20% - 35% of the "refugees" are actually islamist muslim soldiers

Actually feminists used that example against men, but in reality the comparison is not identical since potentially any woman could turn out to be a child-killing psycho who kills you in bed. The likelihood is extremely low and neither sex can live without each other.

Rapefugees however - the West can live BETTER WITHOUT THEM. Even former Muslims or Muslim critics of Islam admit that you would have to screen everyone like crazy from the Middle East or Africa. Also in contrast Islam is a highly negative ideology that most Muslims are not aware of.

And yes - most Muslims do live a better more ethical life than Mohammed and what is actually demanded of them if they knew their teachings. That is why many immigrants are suddenly amazed that their son joins ISIS and becomes a sympathizer just because he became MORE RELIGIOUS:





(Also listen to how the young guy describes ISIS like Grand Theft Auto, killing of infidels and getting sex-slaves. In addition your place in paradise is secure - of course ISIS is a solid option for a true believer. )

They don't realize that they were at best lukewarm Muslims and their son just read the Quran and the Hadiths and returned to the original meaning of Islam. It is simply a religion designed for conquest and control in the Middle Ages. And it was very good at that. Mohammed was likely better than most medieval conquerors and warlords of his time. But the difference is that most of those buggers have not left believers in their ideology behind.

The prograssives are now in a pickle since they adhere to the notion that Islam is like all other religions and radicals are just an aberration. Instead I say that most Muslims are an aberration and are far better folk than their religion would dictate them to be. And they would be even better beings if the countries became secular and started to take the teachings less literal, focused on the good things and let the past be the past.

But that won't happen since the big powers have different plans and use them all to their advantage in order to attain the big goals.

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As for the girl above who cucked an African migrant with an Afghani one, she just got an important lesson in multiculturalism:



She will be more careful and be voting for Trump jr. in her next life, if there is a next life.

Yoko just gives me more and more reasons to fly to Japan and bang the living rice out of her!

I think you meant this for the other thread.

This is a realistical description of 2025 or even earlier,
of Germany under the muslim regime
based on "vibrant diversity and multiculturalism":

The caliphate of Germany will not rise without resistance!

   

(09-04-2015 09:50 AM)rhino Wrote:  I don't think that our American members fully realize the gravity of the migrant crisis unfolding in Europe in 2015.

Here is brief recap:

1. So-called "migrants" from third world countries are storming Europe in historically unprecedented numbers. The number is in thousands daily. Most of them are from Syria, Iraq, Iran, Libya, Afghanistan, Albania/Kosovo (all Islamic countries). Then there are those from sub-Saharan Africa (Congo, Mali, Nigeria, etc. etc.)

2. The original entry points were via Mediterranean sea towards Italy and Spain, but in the last few months there was a notable shift towards the quickest overland route: Turkey > Greece > Macedonia > Serbia > Hungary > EU countries deemed rich/with open multiculturalist policies/with good welfare... so vast majorities eventually end up in Austria, Germany, Scandinavia, Netherlands/Belgium, France/Italy/Spain, and the UK.

3. In typical EU fashion governments are unable to do much except to watch things unfold while they give conflicting statements. After some thought, Germany, as the EU leader, claimed that it will receive over 800,000 asylum claimants in this year alone. A few days after that statement, Germany issued a jarring new policy saying that all claimants from Syria will now be processed as legit... basically inviting the entire country of Syria to move into Germany. Angela Merkel followed that with the statement that "Islam belongs in Germany".

Schenghen rules (Lisboa rules) out of window, free for all.

Gates of Vienna, apparently, are now wide open with a stroke of vassal pen.

4. One notable characteristic of this crisis is that most migrants are able-bodied men 18-50. And they are arrogant (and at times very hostile) bunch with immediate entitlement issues as soon as they step on the European soil. Again, this is not a typical refugee fleeing the war... this is smart-phone enabled migrant looking for the biggest tite to suck.



Another characteristic is that none are moving into Turkey and other Islamic countries. All are *gunning* (ahem) for Western Europe.

5. Because images of hordes of unwashed masses ending up in your neighborhoods overnight is a tough pill to swallow for many current Europeans (even if subconsciously), the Cathedral is busy crafting comical PR campaigns.

Here are three basic examples:

a) The image of drowned Syrian boy (false flag?) who washed ashore the Turkish beach is overused as a symbol of migrants struggle. Even if that event was not manufactured purposefully, we are manipulated to cry for one lost boy (this coming largely from pro-choice liberals) while ignoring a million (millions) of adults finding their way.

b) Recent NPR (PR?) report featured a story of a middle-aged (being middle aged is deemed safe/non-aggressive, at par with teddy bears) Syrian (read: legit) dude who worked in high tech in Dubai (notice the 'white collar work in another Islamic country' angle) but who couldn't have his family join him there (bring on the violins) because the UAE authorities wouldn't let them... so he went to Germany to re-unite with them (again, more strings). The report ends with a story of a Syrian woman (legit) and her babies (aww, lil darlings) struggling to get to EU after losing everything (oooh, poor things).

c) "At a Berlin church, Muslim refugees converting in droves"

Consequences of these events will be wide-reaching and all-encompassing for the future of Europe. As they gather strength through numbers and power, ideologically suspect and sexually frustrated imports will increasingly be resorting to terrorist acts to air their misplaced grievances. The Europe of future will resemble third world (low economic opportunities, crime-infested, corruption/bribery, daily violence...) Some things will change practically overnight. Some will change with time. Intermingling and intermarrying will become "new normal", what's left of pure will be diluted, and the new European will be a mongrel without roots and sense of singular history and tradition, just like the Zionists masters devised it.

And if you think this isn't a part of the bigger plan, I direct you to an Italian art piece unveiled in Sarajevo almost 20 years ago.

The statue curiously reads: "L'uomo multiculturale costruirà il mondo"

"Multicultural mankind will built the world"



And what doesn't become multicultural, will simply be overtaken, with foreign culture replacing host culture as the new sheriff in town.

When you write or create threads, think well before you do that and dont mention countries for no reason.

Albania has had free visa with EU since 2012 and in the refugee invasion of 2015 and 2016 there are no Albanians involved, but mostly gypsies or Roma communities from Serbia and Albania.

And Albania is hardly Islamic in anyway. I have been there endless times since my ex was Albanian.

Anyways Europe needs to stop this madness since it will sink it down.

USA starts wars whenever and wherever it wants and EU gets the refugees.

All the refugees come from countries dried up by the wars started by the USA.

(05-02-2016 07:46 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

(04-28-2016 06:20 AM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  I think there is a big difference of cheering them on and wanting to date them. Western men not only tend to look better, they also have more resources and higher intellect.

Back in my hometown, there's a large number of young couples consisting of Sudanese Immigrant Man / Skinny White Girl. They've always got multiple young children.

Women love both Danger and Drama. They also adore movies about Medicore White Chicks experiencing about Racial Discrimination via a Proxy whose goodness and earthy wisdom is savagely-ignored due to them possessing different skin pigmentation. They also love feeling Hard Done By and Oppressed, even when their life is one of Elevation and Privilige.

I can see the attraction for them.

Interestingly, a mate back home told me there was a drive-by down the road from his house the other day. I've been checking the local paper online: it's all feel-good stories about painting murals and kittens. I only found reportage of the event from a paper on the other side of the country, which means, it made the news wire services. It's certainly-unusual it wasn't mentioned locally, similar to how a man who didn't fire gunshots that everyone must have mistakenly-heard and who didn't possess a weapon was charged with firearm offences.

Doublethink Days...

Highest interracial rates during my trips in Europe are in England, France, Belgium and Netherlands.

There are 2 million mulattoes in England alone between white english women and black english guys or immigrants.

I have also noticed that polish females date a lot of blacks in England and USA.

(05-03-2016 03:25 PM)Roger Wrote:  When you write or create threads, think well before you do that and dont mention countries for no reason.

Albania has had free visa with EU since 2012 and in the refugee invasion of 2015 and 2016 there are no Albanians involved, but mostly gypsies or Roma communities from Serbia and Albania.

And Albania is hardly Islamic in anyway. I have been there endless times since my ex was Albanian.

Anyways Europe needs to stop this madness since it will sink it down.

USA starts wars whenever and wherever it wants and EU gets the refugees.

All the refugees come from countries dried up by the wars started by the USA.

What you say about Albanians having free visa with the EU is true.

However some of your post is erroneous.

Albanians were some of the first migrants in to Europe after the Yugoslav wars in the mid-90s. Technically some of them were genuine refugees, I will accept that.

In England there are many Albanian enclaves which are no-go areas for English. I live near(about 25 miles away) a town that is one of the most deprived towns or cities in the EU, it has a high Albanian population, and they do not get on with the natives/residents. They are very insular people and do not integrate. I have seen this myself. They are responsible for a lot of crime and anti-social behaviour.

Yes, there are good Albanians, my problem is not with them, but with the governments that have willfully destroyed the social fabric of my nation to further their own agendas. It started with Blair's Labour in 1997 when they allowed unrestricted immigration. It's been reported that they hoped the migrants would vote for them and keep them in power. The more likely theory is population increase to support a debt based economy.

It's honourable of you to put in a good word for them, but from my perspective it doesn't matter where the people are from, it is harmful for the nation they choose to reside in, and they are being used as pawns to further the agendas of banker,s politicians and corporations. And the Albanians are a part of it as much as the current influx.

(05-03-2016 03:57 PM)Lizard King Wrote:  

(05-03-2016 03:25 PM)Roger Wrote:  When you write or create threads, think well before you do that and dont mention countries for no reason.

Albania has had free visa with EU since 2012 and in the refugee invasion of 2015 and 2016 there are no Albanians involved, but mostly gypsies or Roma communities from Serbia and Albania.

And Albania is hardly Islamic in anyway. I have been there endless times since my ex was Albanian.

Anyways Europe needs to stop this madness since it will sink it down.

USA starts wars whenever and wherever it wants and EU gets the refugees.

All the refugees come from countries dried up by the wars started by the USA.

What you say about Albanians having free visa with the EU is true.

However some of your post is erroneous.

Albanians were some of the first migrants in to Europe after the Yugoslav wars in the mid-90s. Technically some of them were genuine refugees, I will accept that.

In England there are many Albanian enclaves which are no-go areas for English. I live near(about 25 miles away) a town that is one of the most deprived towns or cities in the EU, it has a high Albanian population, and they do not get on with the natives/residents. They are very insular people and do not integrate. I have seen this myself. They are responsible for a lot of crime and anti-social behaviour.

Yes, there are good Albanians, my problem is not with them, but with the governments that have willfully destroyed the social fabric of my nation to further their own agendas. It started with Blair's Labour in 1997 when they allowed unrestricted immigration. It's been reported that they hoped the migrants would vote for them and keep them in power. The more likely theory is population increase to support a debt based economy.

It's honourable of you to put in a good word for them, but from my perspective it doesn't matter where the people are from, it is harmful for the nation they choose to reside in, and they are being used as pawns to further the agendas of banker,s politicians and corporations. And the Albanians are a part of it as much as the current influx.

I'll second this about the Albanians. They are a very insular people, tribal to the core. Here in the United States, they tend to stick to their own and don't mix with non-Albanians. The women are often surprisingly feminine, but the men are often drunk, abusive assholes that think they are God's gift to the world. I have an Albanian friend who won't mix with other Albanians for this reason.

Albanians had be a big load of refugees in the last year. The drug and prostitution in Hamburg is also mainly in the hands of Albanians. I meet some and consider them as tricky.

(05-03-2016 03:57 PM)Lizard King Wrote:  In England there are many Albanian enclaves which are no-go areas for English. I live near(about 25 miles away) a town that is one of the most deprived towns or cities in the EU, it has a high Albanian population, and they do not get on with the natives/residents. They are very insular people and do not integrate. I have seen this myself. They are responsible for a lot of crime and anti-social behaviour.

I actually think albanians are the only europeans that british women seem to like.

(04-27-2016 08:10 PM)Rocha Wrote:  

(04-27-2016 07:38 PM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  Most portuguese africans are integrated. Do not use a bunch of drunk dindunuffins coming straight from a club as a widespread example. I don't know where you live but my zone is 50% black and it's also pretty safe. As are other mostly black zones around me. It's not a few Almada ghetto kids that will make me start suspecting about hundreds of thousands of people.

Twenty years ago you had some far right fuckers beating up and killing a black dude in Bairro Alto just for the sake of his colour, too. Did you generalize those as well? If you want to generalize portuguese blacks you should also be prepared to generalize portuguese whites when they do something horrible like that. So don't go down that slippery slope.

And if you know anything about Cais do Sodré you will know there is some violence there with relative frequency, with whites, with blacks, with anybody. Do not try to politicize this as some sort of magic discovery.

Good that your counter argument about something that happened 2 days ago is an event that occurred 20 years ago...it seems to me fair.
If you travel a little more in time you will say how we brutalized, enslaved and colonized these people in the previous 500 years and now we are paying for that...

I can travel 1 day in time and talk about the Portuguese couple murdered yesterday in Luanda, or the 12 Portuguese citizens murdered this year alone over there.

I know very well Cais do Sodré, unfortunately...its mostly blacks provoking and the targets are always white portuguese or foreigners.
Remember the 28 year old architect who died defending his girlfriend 2 years ago from 3 blacks who where groping her?

http://www.sol.pt/noticia/114005/morreu-...sodr%C3%A9

Political correctness on immigrants and descendants we have here for a long time, I dare to say we are pioneers in that, and probably Portugal was the experience field.

Keep with your Lalaland fables, but you are in the wrong side of history buddy.

Note: You probably do not remember this one, the famous "arrastão" in Carcavelos beach back in 2005, in wich 500 (!) "young people" in the 10th of June, Portugal day, swept the beach stealing and beating the unlucky fellows over there.

Lemon, I can tell from your posts that you have one foot in the real world and the other still in the "we are the world, we are the children/we can all get along" politically correct world, I take it it's because you're still young, but to say that the black population is well integrated is rather naive, Rocha is right, you're living in la la land. I grew up in a place half white, half black, close to Lisbon and I don't recognize this wonderful place where everyone just gets along that you're describing at all, I wish it were true though.

The black guy getting killed in Bairro Alto by those white skinheads was such an anomaly that everyone still hears about it even after 20 years have passed, it was the only time that anything like that has ever happened in Portugal, while the opposite, black gangs attacking whites, are so commonplace that people don't even mention it, so don't even try to equate these two events to make it sound those evil whites are just as bad, we already have the continuous anti white, anti Portuguese mainstream leftist culture in Portugal for that.

The reality is that the Portuguese are passive, very open and acceptant of everyone, politically correct and indoctrinated, to the point that someone like you, a regular in a forum like this where people have a much wider, less PC and more real perspective of the world, brings up something that happened once 20 years ago caused by a group of less than ten whites and tries to equate it with the countless, everyday attacks, robberies, destruction of property, drug traffic, etc, committed by blacks. I'm obviously not saying the whole black population behaves like that, of course there are tons of well adjusted, productive and great people, just like many whites commit crimes as well, but the numbers are nowhere close, so you're not being fair.

I have to give it to those Turks, they are absolutely shameless to the point of absurdity, now they're saying the EU hasn't done anything for the "migrants" and only Turkey has helped them, and the blackmail continues, if the EU doesn't allow for visa free travel for 75 million Turks then Turkey won't do anything to stop the flow of migrants.

Can anyone explain to me why, once given visas and the jizya paid, would Turkey have any incentive or reason to curb the flow, especially when it's in their interest to flood Europe with parasites, and how is giving free reigns to 75 million Turkish leeches is somehow better than being flooded by the other bloodsucking rapefugees? And how is the EU so astoundingly dumb to the point of not realizing Europe will be flooded by the rapefugees AND the Turks AND it will have wasted billions of Euros? Oh well, these are all rhetorical.

European Union bosses have done ‘NOTHING’ for the migrant crisis, furious Turkey claims

(05-03-2016 11:54 PM)Teutatis Wrote:  I have to give it to those Turks, they are absolutely shameless to the point of absurdity, now they're saying the EU hasn't done anything for the "migrants" and only Turkey has helped them, and the blackmail continues, if the EU doesn't allow for visa free travel for 75 million Turks then Turkey won't do anything to stop the flow of migrants.

Can anyone explain to me why, once given visas and the jizya paid, would Turkey have any incentive or reason to curb the flow, especially when it's in their interest to flood Europe with parasites, and how is giving free reigns to 75 million Turkish leeches is somehow better than being flooded by the other bloodsucking rapefugees? And how is the EU so astoundingly dumb to the point of not realizing Europe will be flooded by the rapefugees AND the Turks AND it will have wasted billions of Euros? Oh well, these are all rhetorical.

European Union bosses have done ‘NOTHING’ for the migrant crisis, furious Turkey claims

Well, you said it yourself, this is a rhetorical question. As we all know, the people running Europe are in fact its most vicious enemies and take great pleasure in destroying it on every level. The opportunity to take billions of euros stolen from their subjects and give it to the Turks "in exchange" for adding 75m Turks to the rapefugee flow must have given them great pleasure.

But fuck Europeans. I unavoidably run into some of them in China, in particular the young ones in their late teens and early twenties. Aside from a very, very few exceptions, they are a caricature of real human beings, completely guileless and naive to the point where I really do have trouble viewing them as fully human. They definitely are "eloi" at this point and frankly hearing about more weird shit happening in Europe gives me a macabre sense of satisfaction, because I see these Europeans as an aberration against nature that will either be forced to shape up by circumstances or rightly be eradicated by them.

@ Teutatis

I brought that subject up because in that case more or less the same happened to the kebab guy. The difference is that in one case it was a group of blacks and in the older case it was a group of whites. In the same way I won't blame all whites for killing that black guy 20 years ago I can't also blame ALL blacks for what that group did to the kebab guy. Does this make me so PC and living in La La land as you describe? Just a matter of coherence. And sure, blacks do commit more crimes and I have highlighted that.

If you think the generality of portuguese are so passive and so accepting of everyone you just need to go read the commentaries on certain newspaper articles concerning the refugee issue and the recent kebab house issue. I've read them, and they are absolutely NOT PC by a large majority. On several newspapers.