(04-26-2016 02:46 AM)Travesty Wrote:  Thanks for the well thought replies.

I am guessing I don't get to the point of we're not having sex is because I tend to blitz escalation early and sometimes it can take me very far so no LMR, it seems "we're not having sex" comes from slower cook teasing physical escalation.

I think I get "you move so fast" because my escalation often outright surprises girls usually well because I have since reading Bang try to hone my skill in when is the earliest I can possibly escalate with her being receptive and it upping the sexuality of the date. Historically this has served me well.

Yup that's the Team Blitzkrieg effect.

I'm all about that, it basically goes around LMR very fast.

Escalation, being in control, and the amount of raw emotion and sexual passion comes out.

I can't tell you the last time I heard a girl say "we're not having sex".

I've maybe read it twice in early stages of my game.

Using venue changes, ramble game, and plausible deniability to go to my pad.

Girls already know the score, or they wouldn't be coming, I have a pretty high closing rate once I get a girls to my pad.

Being able to control the Blitzkrieg is important, not super fast, but not super slow either.

A constant strong escalation of sexual tension being released while clothes come off.

Fast is smooth, smooth is fast.

I'm putting some effort to get my gabonese flag .
I took her out for a ride , bought some ice cream and we chilled in a parking lot facing the sea . We makeout in the car , and she told me about the crazy things she would do to me in bed .
I will meet her later on this week for a couple drinks and probably bounce to my pad .
She's a 7 and taking good care of her body . We'll see how this one goes .

Quest for Fire is good for Netflix and chill. All the fucking without permission and violence gets the panties wet.

Just got home. Went out and hit a bar, made 4 approaches but didn't end up hooking a single set. Got blown out by a bitchy short chick to start and laughed in her face.

Something was preventing me from committing fully when I was opening tonight. Perhaps I should look into a better pre-outing routine to get my head in the game beforehand. It's frustrating to know how "on" I can be, but not yet be able to tap into it at will.

At the very least tonight I was social and friendly with the bartenders and a few randoms, and that's a lot better than me sitting at home.


In other news, I switched out the first image on my Tinder profile for a recently taken one. Decent lighting, suited, looking aloof and squinty, staring away from the camera, also feat. a girl... and damn the difference in match rate is crazy. The online photos thread here has some truly solid advice, thanks fellas.

When I think about advanced game,

https://medium.com/fluxx-studio-notes/th....9hia05qs2

“Glimma 100 pack $3.99,” only one human response is possible. “Ooh, that’s a lot of tea lights. We probably need some tea lights, don’t we? I’ll just put those in my yellow bag.”

*It’s not a conscious decision, but an animal response to a pricing signal"*

WIA

(04-27-2016 12:24 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  When I think about advanced game,

https://medium.com/fluxx-studio-notes/th....9hia05qs2

“Glimma 100 pack $3.99,” only one human response is possible. “Ooh, that’s a lot of tea lights. We probably need some tea lights, don’t we? I’ll just put those in my yellow bag.”

*It’s not a conscious decision, but an animal response to a pricing signal"*

WIA

This is fantastic, I just forwarded this to other work colleagues.

An example of this is bumping services for customers, we're raising our standard service pricing

Example:

Current Pricing: $1000
Changed Pricing: $2000

Strategy:

We're discounting the changed pricing by $800 so it looks better on paper.

Basically we're only bumping the service $200, obviously we're reviewing each account first to see if they took advantage of the original service first.

Initially when we send a quote with the new service, we don't mention pricing unless it's being brought up by them.

If they did, they were more receptive and purchase the annual service at the higher price.

We're of course in the initial stages of increasing our services, but this is a perfect read for what we're doing,

The article touches on having prices that they don't imagine anyone will pay, but making other things look affordable.

The part about the wine list...

That's where I think good game should be going.
But game keeps devolving to mouth breather status.

How is she making decisions real time, what is she basing them on.

At basic levels we've already incorporated
- yes ladders
- Friday night or Saturday night

There is more though.

WIA

Interesting link WIA. Can you draw the line back to game more clearly?

What's being sold? What's the currency? How is the price communicated? Who's the buyer and who's the seller?

(04-27-2016 12:58 PM)Ensam Wrote:  Interesting link WIA. Can you draw the line back to game more clearly?

What's being sold? What's the currency? How is the price communicated? Who's the buyer and who's the seller?

When you take off your shirt and she sees muscles and then gasps - that's an example of an animal response, like the tea lights being four for a dollar. The key here is the gasp, the unconscious and unthinking reaction, when her breeding and socialization fail. It's not the omg I need muscles response or I can't compete with guys on performance enhancing drugs..

So on the one hand getting deep into looking for those things, then backwards engineering what you think is happening, and then setting up those situations proactively.

The other hand is thinking of new shit and testing it out.

The requires out of the box thinking.

WIA

Just like pricing and business, you want to be profiting. What are your profit margins in game? Are banging 6's "profitable" to you, or is that just breaking even? 7's? 8's? Would an LTR with a 7/10 be your sign of business success?

While the article has some great insight, it's misleading to say pricing is all just "experimenting and guesswork" because the bottom line is profit. If you aren't at least making enough money off of your sales to maintain your business and go home with some extra cash to live comfortably then what's the point? So really, the idea is how to maximize profit. First your profit goals need to be defined.

You need to be pricing your goods a margin above your costs.

IKEA Tea lights are cheap. Someone who is not looking for tea lights can be convinced to buy them simply because the advertised price makes it difficult for them to mentally resist buying them. They think "Oh I can't ignore this awesome price! I can totally find a use for these." There is also the pressure to "buy now" which tricks consumers into spending money on stuff they don't need just because it "might not be on sale later." So how does one transfer this strategy to game?

How do you sell yourself to your target customers? To equate selling something useful for cheap - that would be like you tapping into the hypergamous nature of women i.e., going for girls who are a couple points below yourself so you seem like a "bargain" this increasing your odds of being sold.

To sell to higher-end market, (8+) you need to appear of high-value and well-worth the cost (sex). Rich people don't want to be cheap shit because they are above it. They want to be seen with high quality merchandise - so you need to be (or at least appear) to be high quality merchandise. Range Rovers cost $80k, but they are the most unreliable cars on the market. The profit margin on those SUVs is probbaly enormous. They are a status symbol regardless of the fact they are mechanically and electronically shit.

I think it's dangerous to think about the cost as being sex - women love sex. The cost is reputation, missed opportunities and future hassle.

(04-27-2016 03:16 PM)Ensam Wrote:  I think it's dangerous to think about the cost as being sex - women love sex. The cost is reputation, missed opportunities and future hassle.

Think of it how you like, but that's what it is. That is why women are selective on who they have sex with - much like consumers are selective on what they spend their money on. True women do love sex with certain men.

Men on the other hand will have sex with most any female - just like a business will happily take most anyone's money. Both are much less selective. The goal is to get the most money.

No doubt that women use sex as currency and many men offer their time/attention/resources in exchange.

I'd rather be the guy who they just love having sex with. To me, game is becoming that guy and learning what the real costs of having sex (i.e. reasons chicks don't bang guys they're otherwise attracted to) are and lowering them.

You guys are putting game in the same box it's always been with the dumb business analogies. Thinking like that leads to stupid demand curves and SMV numbers. That's a dead end.

Lemme repeat , signal then unconscious reaction.

When they talk about the wine spreadsheet, it's not about the price of the wine, but not trying to be taken by the restaurateur.

Resist the urge to think the same way.

WIA

I lied to a girl that I didn't think was quite attractive enough (just too plain Jane) about my background though not completely off. Daytime direct number crunch.

I went on a lunch day date because her logistics are terrible otherwise.

She chases me hard in text. I spill the beans of truth saying my real background and that I made up my other background because I got out of a complicated relationship and I just wanted to talk with someone. This was a way to self sabotage myself from getting too serious.

She replied:

"I don't know whether to laugh or be pissed off"

I think I should do this more often. It was working great with her feeding up on the drama until she picked up on the part where I said
"I just want to see where things go" ( I just want to fuck you ). And she demanded all or nothing dating. Lesson learned never ever even glean your true intentions whatever they may be. Women love to be in the dark wandering around.

Goodbye dear.

(04-27-2016 03:23 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  Men on the other hand will have sex with most any female - just like a business will happily take most anyone's money. Both are much less selective. The goal is to get the most money.

I think the term "best bang for your buck" is a very appropriate term here.

General Stalin in on point.

Use the phrase "bang for your buck" around 8s and 9s and watch what happens.

That shit dries up pussy faster than being in the middle of Death Valley.

Even if you believe in it, it's better not to say it.

(04-27-2016 10:55 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  General Stalin in on point.

Use the phrase "bang for your buck" around 8s and 9s and watch what happens.

That shit dries up pussy faster than being in the middle of Death Valley.

Even if you believe in it, it's better not to say it.

Obviously, I'm saying it as a joke, in no way shape or form do I view 5 and 6's and 8's and 9's as the same or using the strategy.

There is at least a subtle monetary difference when dealing a higher tier of women. At least it's expected.

God I just plowed a 7 22yo 5'9" and trying to become a fitness model and she is 75% of the way there, happa college chick from campus daygame.

Only problem is, I'm so high I keep getting angry at myself for not having came before she left. Left high me remembers I pulled out and blew all over her ass and needed 6 Kleenexes to wipe up and I smile inside. Then high me forgets that and gets anxiety that I didn't get a chance to cum before she left.

Whut?

She asked me "so will I be expecting a call from you or not?"

I squinted at her and said confusedly "why wouldn't I?" like maybe there is something wrong with her I should watch out for.

I think she is drama entwined.

Mission accomplished. Flying to Mars now.

Actual footage of Travesty:

Just had a Tinder match pull monster flake on me last night saying that she's off to Japan for almost a fortnight on Friday, has loads of work stuff to tidy up, and that she will definitely call me when she's back.

We'd been flaking on each other back and forth over the past couple of weeks, either because we have work whenever the other is free, she had a gathering or visitors come up, and that she has ridiculously early morning starts — as she's a doctor, I didn't doubt her.

At least each time she'd flaked, she'd suggested another time. Initially she appeared cold on text and on the phone, but warmed up heaps when we found out we live practically around the corner from each other — my suburb is a small one mostly taken up by the university, 3 hospitals and 2 huge parks so anyone living there is almost a neighbour.

She also added that her new position will have later starts. Our initial Tinder chat went well, she's slimmer and better looking than my past 3 bangs from the app, and we have 4 mutual friends on Facebook, so for want of sounding too naive, I hope she's true to her word.

(04-28-2016 01:48 AM)Travesty Wrote:  Mission accomplished. Flying to Mars now.

How in the world did you go on a date with this chick while obviously that fucked up and have it work out?

What a riot. I'm so glad I'm up prepping for this camping trip and read this.

kaotic's gif got me like:

I think come over as a happy touchy cross fader so it can help me unlike other guys where they may get sloppy. I have been told I am cute acting drunk/high. I actually pay close attention to the girl and it usually happens at a time where attraction has been built and some comfort can break LMR before it happens. I probably advocate drinking semi-heavily and smoking because for me it just works out so well.

Others without warrior blood may suffer.

I met her on campus, I saw her from behind.

She had on a loose tank top and yoga work out pants. Very fit. Taut. Bottom half of her hair blonde from growing out. She is like the hot tomboy thing. She is most likely bi I am guessing.

Did standard text game, kept to logistics and no cutesy bullshit because she seemed like she needs a guy that can way out masculinize her tomboy side.

Was purposely late to the bar to meet her. She waited outside in the cool windy weather instead of inside like most girls would. Knew that was a good sign because I think it is respectful, some chicks go into the bar get a drink and start getting hit on by the bartender or other guys and you have to come break that up.

I was 2 strong vodka clubs deep at this point from pregaming. I threw my back out shadowboxing the other day so I could only do some jabroni body squats as a physical warm up before fuck off.

The bar is kinda crowded for being so small. We sit at the bar and we go through 2 rounds of drinks. Conversation was easy because this chick is actually smart and interesting. Though I am sure a hoe by some slut tells. That's why it's great.

I talk about my new medical weed card said I bought some Blue Dream lately. Would she like to go smoke. Of course. Weed girls are the best. We walk 3 blocks back to my place.

Give her a short drumming lesson on my electric drum set. Girls love that whole lean over their shoulder and hold their wrists and you play beats for them and treat them like sexy puppet. Smoke Blue Dream out of the 1 foot smoking lamp. Have another round playing the drinking card game High-Low. I pop half a Cialis because I am starting to lose my mental against the war clouds of Blue Dream.

By this point I have to go for the KO before I KO myself. I go to makeout everything is like a beautiful tree panther gliding out of a branch aiming for Bambi's jugular. I hear the spirit of Bruce Lee tell me some mystical shit.

Well I get her straddling me and almost pass out of consciousness because I am so high in a physical way, blood rushes from head. Mentally I still have it together. Like Leo in Wolf of Wall Street when he gets drugged out of mind and has roll down the front steps and sideways into the lambo.

I summon the Dark Force at the bottom my heart to use my perfect body squat form and lift this 115lbs angel up from her ass and wrap her legs around my waist from the couch.

We mosey back to my Dark Room of Lost Innocence.

I won't lie to you, I forget to dance twirl her first to gain just enough comfort.

In bed I go Stalin Gulag on her pussy. I didn't have much more time before the Space Gnomes in my head took over.

I am becoming like a Mortal Kombat Finishing Move at fucking a girl with justice then dragging her at the right angle and making squirt like a fountain with my hand while I choke her with the other for good measure and knee her in the abdomen to pin her down like a misbehaved farm animal.

It was everywhere. Everywhere. She said right after she didn't know she could even do that. Yeah I hit it with a condom at first at the end I had to hit it doggy raw, that's just the universe. Busted on her ass 6 kleenexes die needlessly.

By this point I am half way to the moon. She says "well you seem tired". Hah.

As my gramps said "half Japanese makes the box tight".

I have had sex 3 different girls (2 plates) in the last week. All 22yo all 7s all college girls from campus day game.

1 foreign Asian
1 happa (half blonde from dye job)
1 blonde white

Perfect little spectrum. Must say I am proud to think of that because being in SB I have definitely set out what I wanted to accomplish and more.

On the serious side my body posture from watching it so much and doing yoga and shadow boxing has become amazingly better, I must have been called "boss" from over 5 different guys in the last month or two that work at restaurants, retail, wherever. That happened to me before, though pretty infrequent. People give me way more physical space than they ever have it is almost funny sometimes.

My voice and tone has gotten better from practicing singing. I try to always have a controlled lower voice. A girl I instadated recently said I almost had a Southern tone to my vibe which I think is a good relaxed thing.

Hit a hip hop festival in Johannesburg.
25000 strong in attendees.

Struck out mightly.

Then a lucky break. A cute bae, pulls up on me whilst I'm sparking a J.
"May I please smoke with you, when you're good?" she asks coyly.
"You know that saying about girls thinking they gone hit the blunt cos' their cute?" I reply with smirk.
She never stopped smiling after.

Game on.

I always appreciate the catch you reel in from fresh from the ocean, as opposed to 'plenty of fish'.

A 22 year old black chick just flaked on me after I flaked on her earlier this week. I never set up a different date so does that even count?

She writes me a long message saying she won't be able to see me most of the summer so she didn't want to lead me on.

nice try.