(04-10-2016 04:52 PM)Agastya Wrote:  ...she responds with "I'm busy, friend". Try again later, no response.

What's to salvage? Doesn't get much more clean cut than that. Next.

Stayed out in the cold all weekend doing motorcycle classes, then it rained today all day which sucked, still did classes.

Passed the written course test and physical tests. Next is passing the DMV written test and boom, I'll have my M1 License and buy a bike within a month.

Cooked my food for the weekend, that thick big titted gal flaked claiming a bday dinner....on a sunday, also gave options.

Called her on it, set for tommorow, we'll see.

Got my balls completely drained from the long term 19 year old plate. Even brought new lingerie, she's not the greatest looker, but she makes up in sex.

Knows what the score is and never asks for anything more, strictly bedroom only.

Shitty thing is she told me she might have cancer (she's been on and off sick since the holidays).

(04-06-2016 11:19 AM)kaotic Wrote:  Maybe I need to chill out for a week or two.

Is that even possible for you?
Also do you have any tips on being as energetic as you? How much sleep do you get, and your usual nutrition etc.

Thought I had my Finnish flag in the bag last night.
Pipelined a girl through Tinder and she was super keen. Gave me her number eagerly (something that is rare in Finland as your number is considered very personal and generally not given to someone you haven't met in person), actively contacted me and suggested meeting up before I could.
Met her at a bar 5 minutes walk from my hotel and she's taller than me (Finnish girls are much taller than Aussie girls) but she doesn't seem to care and never mentions it. She's keen from the get go and starts kinoing me heavily almost right from the outset as well as suggesting we move to a more private booth in the bar after we've had a drink. We chat a bit about Finnish guys and she complains about the ones who are players knowing they are good looking and can get any girl and I tease her for falling for it, which she ruefully acknowledges she has a few times (Alpha widow). I think this is in the bag and it's just don't fuck up game.

While we're sitting there she tells me that she likes me, which looking back now I can see as a red flag. I keep escalating with her and she's down for the makeout at the bar after which I finish my drink, grab her hand and say lets go to which she offers no objection.
We get to my hotel room and she remarks that I've got a good view. We sit down on my bed as there is nowhere else to sit and I start the makeout again with no resistance although she keeps commenting that she doesn't know where this is going and she doesn't usually do this but I'm just so much more forward than Finnish guys, blah blah. But then...

LMR!

As soon as I go for her boobs she starts objecting and moving my hands away. It's not very strong objections though so I think it's no big deal and push on. However she'es not having it, she will not let me into her bra or her pants. I start a bit of push pull, kissing her neck, pulling her hair and keep trying but no deal, she won't let me pass, keeps saying she doesn't want to give that impression on a first date. I try for over an hour but eventually I give up and kick her out. She texts me when she gets home how much she enjoyed the date.

I'm frustrated that I couldn't defeat the LMR because this girl was clearly down. She's into me and wants to bang me but unfortunately sees me as relationship material and so doesn't want to come off as a slut. I'm annoyed at myself for giving off that vibe.
If I'd met her out on a Friday or Saturday night and she'd had a bit more to drink it would have been in the bag and she practically said as much.
She's clearly an alpha widow who sees the wall coming and is desperately trying to change her ways and reform her image so she can jump off the carousel.
So unfortunately my Finnish flag will have to wait.

(04-11-2016 02:55 AM)Phoenix Wrote:  

(04-06-2016 11:19 AM)kaotic Wrote:  Maybe I need to chill out for a week or two.

Is that even possible for you?
Also do you have any tips on being as energetic as you? How much sleep do you get, and your usual nutrition etc.

I wrote a little about what I do when I need to recharge here. Oddly enough, Little Dark started that thread. I guess his social energy was drained after fighting off 50 WK's.

@ Roardog,

Are you in Helsinki or some other major city? If so, no sweat; you will get that Finnish flag real soon. I was in Helsinki this past summer and did some damage the week I was there. If it wasn't so boring, I would definitely go back as Finnish girls click with me.

(04-11-2016 07:21 AM)redbeard Wrote:  

(04-11-2016 02:55 AM)Phoenix Wrote:  

(04-06-2016 11:19 AM)kaotic Wrote:  Maybe I need to chill out for a week or two.

Is that even possible for you?
Also do you have any tips on being as energetic as you? How much sleep do you get, and your usual nutrition etc.

I wrote a little about what I do when I need to recharge here. Oddly enough, Little Dark started that thread. I guess his social energy was drained after fighting off 50 WK's.

It's not possible I guess, I feel like if I don't take advantage of an evening - I've wasted some of my life.

Don't get me wrong, I've called in sick, had days and woke up and said fuck it, but even when that happened I was working from home for a bit or getting shit done around the house.

Matter of fact even after I totaled my car and was put into a hazy state - I managed to check emails remotely for a bit.

Staying high energy and a positive attitude helps.

The last 11 days was a struggle because I was sick as fuck. I'm finally better but with a nagging cough which is annoying.

I sleep around 11pm or 12am and wake up around 6:45am-7am.

As far as nutrition well that's extremely important (since I'm trying to bulk).

A long time ago a vegetarian friend turned vegan opened my eyes to the poisons I was putting into my body. I'm not vegan, but I've adapted things from them and other nutrition lifestyles.

I don't eat fast food (if I do it's OG mexican style burritos or in and out lettuce wrapped burger with no spread). I of course have a cheat day or so.

I don't drink coffee or soda. I drink about a little under a gallon a day of water mixed with tea bags. Of course I have booze - I do stay away from beer unless I'm at a brewery (sorry Travesty).

I'll also admit I'm fond of doing good blow for special occasions when friends are around or a large music festival.

I meal prep on the weekends for my food all week.

I eat 4 meals before working out:

5 eggs with spinach 8:30am
Chicken Breast & Broccoli 10am
Chicken Breast & Broccoli 12 pm
Chicken Breast & Broccoli + Some sort of carbs for working out 3pm

Protein shake + ceating pre workout out 5pm
I drink preworkout and BCAA's during my workout
Post protein shake 7:30pm
Chipotle for dinner (rice, meat, salsa) aka "3-pointer" and cheaper 8:30pm
Protein shake before bed

I used to drink ACV in the morning but I stopped for now (I've been having on off and digestive issues, 1st issue was from anti-biotics, 2nd was from being sick this last week)

Now I do admit sometimes I'll catch myself nodding off at work, which I get up and walk around or chug some water.

On top of that I work a regular 9-5 job and work 11 or 9 hour weekends.

Having energy is definitely mental with nutrition a close second.

Having sex and gaming girls helps feed that energy. I love fucking women and I love the chase and hunt.

I always wake up thankful - it's in my subconscious now.

I'm alive - breathing - a roof over my head.

Holy shit, swung a 9 from daygame yesterday, and set up a date tonight. Planning to meet near my place, and get her back to the apartment asap. Is this a good gameplan, or is my head getting clouded? I know I'm supposed to game as usual, but I'm getting thrown off here.

It's the formula espoused by the group.

If this already works for you, don't change it.
If you've never done it.....

WIA

I've been banging the same chick for 5-6 weeks now and I'm getting lazy. Fuck

I haven't had money nor motivation to go out, either. Fuck

Haven't had funds as I'm moving and need to pay first and lasts, and security deposit...

I'm feeling that pinch of "I haven't approach a new chick in awhile. Fuck.

Strange how even though I'm banging daily my confidence feels lower than a month ago. The chase is really an integral part of the game...

Someone punch me.

Sitting at the airport, tons of young lizards going home from a local college visit. So young, so eager to fork over their cash for 4 years of partying, hoping that Sanders will pay for it. Wish I was 18 again...

(04-11-2016 10:24 AM)Fury Wrote:  @ Roardog,

Are you in Helsinki or some other major city? If so, no sweat; you will get that Finnish flag real soon. I was in Helsinki this past summer and did some damage the week I was there. If it wasn't so boring, I would definitely go back as Finnish girls click with me.

I'm in a pretty small city, only 60k people, but it makes the logistics awesome. My hotel is right in the centre of town and every bar and club in town is within 5 minutes walk.

I was a bit worried about the girls here because Finnish girls are quite tall and I'm a short guy but despite both girls I've met in my first 2 days here being taller than me, they haven't seemed to care at all.

I was on a date with another girl last night but jet leg was hitting me hard so I didn't even try to convert her, which I think she was disappointed about, as I was literally falling asleep at the table.
While on this date the LMR girl from the previous night was blowing up my phone wanting to know what I was doing.

Just got a sudden bout of approach anxiety this morning. I overslept and forgot to eat breakfast/lunch as I had to be somewhere in an hour after I woke up. Right after I got done I saw a girl I liked, but couldn't get myself to approach.

Any tips on just getting yourself to approach at all times even when you're not in the best mental state? Usually I'm otherwise good if I'm on a full stomach and had my morning coffee, but I've been having it pop up again when I'm in a less than optimal situation(pressed for time, having a shitty day, etc.).

(04-12-2016 06:13 PM)Comte De St. Germain Wrote:  Just got a sudden bout of approach anxiety this morning. I overslept and forgot to eat breakfast/lunch as I had to be somewhere in an hour after I woke up. Right after I got done I saw a girl I liked, but couldn't get myself to approach.

Any tips on just getting yourself to approach at all times even when you're not in the best mental state? Usually I'm otherwise good if I'm on a full stomach and had my morning coffee, but I've been having it pop up again when I'm in a less than optimal situation(pressed for time, having a shitty day, etc.).

Assuming it's physiological - sublingual B6 works like a charm.

(04-12-2016 07:42 PM)Ensam Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 06:13 PM)Comte De St. Germain Wrote:  Just got a sudden bout of approach anxiety this morning. I overslept and forgot to eat breakfast/lunch as I had to be somewhere in an hour after I woke up. Right after I got done I saw a girl I liked, but couldn't get myself to approach.

Any tips on just getting yourself to approach at all times even when you're not in the best mental state? Usually I'm otherwise good if I'm on a full stomach and had my morning coffee, but I've been having it pop up again when I'm in a less than optimal situation(pressed for time, having a shitty day, etc.).

Assuming it's physiological - sublingual B6 works like a charm.

I highly doubt I'll carry that around everywhere I go . Just in general for when you're not in the best state of mind. Perhaps a mantra or mental way to steel yourself is what I'm going at here.

(04-10-2016 05:13 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  

(04-10-2016 04:52 PM)Agastya Wrote:  ...she responds with "I'm busy, friend". Try again later, no response.

What's to salvage? Doesn't get much more clean cut than that. Next.

Would you guys say that the situation is completely impossible? I'd rather not completely let this girl go, since she was pretty hot. I'd be willing to give it one more try before nexting her. Any ideas?

(04-12-2016 09:24 PM)Agastya Wrote:  

(04-10-2016 05:13 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  

(04-10-2016 04:52 PM)Agastya Wrote:  ...she responds with "I'm busy, friend". Try again later, no response.

What's to salvage? Doesn't get much more clean cut than that. Next.

Would you guys say that the situation is completely impossible? I'd rather not completely let this girl go, since she was pretty hot. I'd be willing to give it one more try before nexting her. Any ideas?

Text her something that will attract hot thots, something of you doing something you.....,you don't have to be included. It could be a pic of a trendy place (food or drinks), doing some cool shit...you could get something off google, save the pic to your phone, and send it.

Hot bishes love attention whorey/shiny things.

(04-12-2016 08:35 PM)Comte De St. Germain Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 07:42 PM)Ensam Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 06:13 PM)Comte De St. Germain Wrote:  Just got a sudden bout of approach anxiety this morning. I overslept and forgot to eat breakfast/lunch as I had to be somewhere in an hour after I woke up. Right after I got done I saw a girl I liked, but couldn't get myself to approach.

Any tips on just getting yourself to approach at all times even when you're not in the best mental state? Usually I'm otherwise good if I'm on a full stomach and had my morning coffee, but I've been having it pop up again when I'm in a less than optimal situation(pressed for time, having a shitty day, etc.).

Assuming it's physiological - sublingual B6 works like a charm.

I highly doubt I'll carry that around everywhere I go . Just in general for when you're not in the best state of mind. Perhaps a mantra or mental way to steel yourself is what I'm going at here.

Just remember that every girl you've ever banged off of daygame has come from you taking initiative and talking to her, even if you didn't look good/feel like it at the time. If you hadn't chosen to make those approaches, you would never have fucked those women. This is in my opinion the best rationale for making an approach.

(04-12-2016 06:13 PM)Comte De St. Germain Wrote:  Any tips on just getting yourself to approach at all times even when you're not in the best mental state? Usually I'm otherwise good if I'm on a full stomach and had my morning coffee, but I've been having it pop up again when I'm in a less than optimal situation(pressed for time, having a shitty day, etc.).

TL DR
- open strangers about anything
- ask some good questions at first
- make observations and have them confirm or deny
- when this is easy, present harder/deeper questions/statements to strangers.

Do this everyday.

Talking to hot women becomes much easier - because you have all of these experiences in the back of your head.

If you only talk to cute girls, it will take forever to get good.
You won't get over your general social fear and anxiety.

And basic social skills are the foundation of game. (basic doesn't mean common. Internet has made people more atomized and less social)

WIA

(04-12-2016 09:24 PM)Agastya Wrote:  

(04-10-2016 05:13 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  

(04-10-2016 04:52 PM)Agastya Wrote:  ...she responds with "I'm busy, friend". Try again later, no response.

What's to salvage? Doesn't get much more clean cut than that. Next.

Would you guys say that the situation is completely impossible? I'd rather not completely let this girl go, since she was pretty hot. I'd be willing to give it one more try before nexting her. Any ideas?

So she's hot. Your point? There's no other hot girls on the planet? Is she the one? This girl who went up to your room to smoke pot and give you a quick beeje after soliciting her for directions on the street? Going to date for a while and maybe get married?

Her text to you is overtly dismissive. Is it 100% impossible for you to get this girl out again? No, in the sense that nothing is impossible. It's highly improbable, though, and your time and effort would be much better spent gaming other girls. Hotter girls.

I had a dream Roosh reformatted the forum and deleted all of the threads. I was so mad, but just laughed it off.

Got my Finnish flag however it was the most dud root ever. I've never banged a girl who was so quiet in my life, not to mention not moving either. It was like banging a corpse.
I haven't had sex that bad in a long time.

(04-14-2016 03:37 AM)Roardog Wrote:  Got my Finnish flag however it was the most dud root ever. I've never banged a girl who was so quiet in my life, not to mention not moving either. It was like banging a corpse.
I haven't had sex that bad in a long time.

Which is a good thing because with next girl it will be necessarily better

It's good to know what future will bring sometime!

Felt like going out with a fresh face last night and keeping my online game sharp so I opened up ye olde OKC. Within 30 min I hook up a date with this solid 8 tall blonde amateur model (not a social media model, a contract holding model). Her profile only had two pics and no bios filled out. Messaged anyway.

Met her at her place downtown, walk up Broadway for a couple drinks and some chatting. Playful Kino. She was very attractive, and abnormally large titties for a girl so slender (fake?)

Anyway my game could have been better. Realized I hadn't been on a date in a while since stowing my game a bit. Wasn't being as playful, physical, and fun as I would have liked, and it was a pretty low key affair. We enjoyed eachother's company and seemed to be vibing OK off of eachother. I kissed closed after I walked to her to her place - it was a close lipped pull away kiss though not passionate at all. Not sure I'll see her again, though I'd like to mainly because she was a smokeshow and not a total bore. She texted me pictures of her dog unsolicted later on.

If she doesn't hit me up again I will restart her next week.

This week has been phenomenal compared to last week. I was able to build some rapport with this hot dancer who comes to the university gym and set up a date for next week. Then, I was able to game this hot brunette from my chemistry lab and get her number and set a date as well. Things I did differently were using sarcastic humor and being confident. I have been reading Bang, and it's been a big help.