Had that tiny ginger girl in my bed yesterday..tried all the classic moves but couldn't get past the LMR...that has not happened to me in a while. I was really intimidating to her..tall guy and her very tiny she was about 5 feet. I felt I was towering and she would never get passed me if I blocked her.

Anyhow she lives with her parents..maybe that's the reason she had to go. Got to get to the tits but couldn't get inside the pants sadly.

Yesterday was our lucky day me and my buddy, we actually found the best club in the city ratio wise. And it was free, I bullshited that we were on the guestlist hold firm eye contact with the bouncer and we made it lol.

I kiss closed this Asian American girl from Minesota, short but she passed the boner test, I could have fucked her but my buddy was not attracted to her friend... A lot of sets were like this, my buddy wasn't attracted to the friend or vice versa and we wouldn't stay. So I just said one set for me and one for him otherwise it's nerver going to work.

I think that my game is hitting a "plateau" or something like that since I would open the girl with no problem, talk/tease/dhv but I would not pull. It makes me a bit angry cause I think I still have that dancing monkey syndrome going
I thought I had eradicated this shit by fixing my voice and all but I guess I need to still work on it.

Has anyone of you guys experienced this? If yes, could you please help a brother it makes me mad.

(04-24-2016 12:10 PM)papaiela Wrote:  Yesterday was our lucky day me and my buddy, we actually found the best club in the city ratio wise. And it was free, I bullshited that we were on the guestlist hold firm eye contact with the bouncer and we made it lol.

I kiss closed this Asian American girl from Minesota, short but she passed the boner test, I could have fucked her but my buddy was not attracted to her friend... A lot of sets were like this, my buddy wasn't attracted to the friend or vice versa and we wouldn't stay. So I just said one set for me and one for him otherwise it's nerver going to work.

I think that my game is hitting a "plateau" or something like that since I would open the girl with no problem, talk/tease/dhv but I would not pull. It makes me a bit angry cause I think I still have that dancing monkey syndrome going
I thought I had eradicated this shit by fixing my voice and all but I guess I need to still work on it.

Has anyone of you guys experienced this? If yes, could you please help a brother it makes me mad.

Double post. Delete please

(04-24-2016 12:12 PM)papaiela Wrote:  

(04-24-2016 12:10 PM)papaiela Wrote:  Yesterday was our lucky day me and my buddy, we actually found the best club in the city ratio wise. And it was free, I bullshited that we were on the guestlist hold firm eye contact with the bouncer and we made it lol.

I kiss closed this Asian American girl from Minesota, short but she passed the boner test, I could have fucked her but my buddy was not attracted to her friend... A lot of sets were like this, my buddy wasn't attracted to the friend or vice versa and we wouldn't stay. So I just said one set for me and one for him otherwise it's nerver going to work.

I think that my game is hitting a "plateau" or something like that since I would open the girl with no problem, talk/tease/dhv but I would not pull. It makes me a bit angry cause I think I still have that dancing monkey syndrome going
I thought I had eradicated this shit by fixing my voice and all but I guess I need to still work on it.

Has anyone of you guys experienced this? If yes, could you please help a brother it makes me mad.

Roll solo. Or dolo, dunny. © Prodigy

Your buddy is not being a friend when at all.
His "wingman" efforts are hurting your game.

As far as the dancing monkey thing goes - move towards being self amused by your own shit. If you're trying to make her laugh, so that you can impress her with your funny - take the intention out of it. See how much you can get away with as a personal goal.

WIA

A wingman is one who is willing to take one for the team. He doesn't have to fuck her, but at the very least he can distract her while you snatch the girl away.

(04-24-2016 12:19 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  Your buddy is not being a friend when at all.
His "wingman" efforts are hurting your game.

WIA

I have seen "wings" lately doing this a lot, as if they dont know why you even want them there. Too self focused and self absorbed. Ive walked back up to girls who said "whats up with your friend, we are leaving, he was a total dick". Needless to say, that was the end of our "wing" partnership.

(04-24-2016 12:19 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

(04-24-2016 12:12 PM)papaiela Wrote:  

(04-24-2016 12:10 PM)papaiela Wrote:  Yesterday was our lucky day me and my buddy, we actually found the best club in the city ratio wise. And it was free, I bullshited that we were on the guestlist hold firm eye contact with the bouncer and we made it lol.

I kiss closed this Asian American girl from Minesota, short but she passed the boner test, I could have fucked her but my buddy was not attracted to her friend... A lot of sets were like this, my buddy wasn't attracted to the friend or vice versa and we wouldn't stay. So I just said one set for me and one for him otherwise it's nerver going to work.

I think that my game is hitting a "plateau" or something like that since I would open the girl with no problem, talk/tease/dhv but I would not pull. It makes me a bit angry cause I think I still have that dancing monkey syndrome going
I thought I had eradicated this shit by fixing my voice and all but I guess I need to still work on it.

Has anyone of you guys experienced this? If yes, could you please help a brother it makes me mad.

Roll solo. Or dolo, dunny. © Prodigy

Your buddy is not being a friend when at all.
His "wingman" efforts are hurting your game.

As far as the dancing monkey thing goes - move towards being self amused by your own shit. If you're trying to make her laugh, so that you can impress her with your funny - take the intention out of it. See how much you can get away with as a personal goal.

WIA

(04-24-2016 12:24 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  A wingman is one who is willing to take one for the team. He doesn't have to fuck her, but at the very least he can distract her while you snatch the girl away.

He's a good wing most of the time but yesterday he was too self-conscious and all in his head. It wasn't his best night overall. Besides, he felt like shit after cause I opened this set of two and handed to him a beautiful girl to help him "out of his head". I can help a soldier when he's down, we are fighting together after all.

He ended up number closing this girl while I was being a good wing, I would not stop talking to the her friend (the warpig) meanwhile he was number closing. I will roll dolo next week and see how it goes. I set ground rules one set for me and one for him, if he's not willing to do this I can't continue because it's never going to work. I would rather roll dolo and deal with the cockblocking.

Concerning my dancing monkey syndrome I am most of the time self amused and do not seek approval but I think it's more the pace of the jokes and teasing that I should mix more often with "serious" conversation.

Thanks guys

(04-24-2016 12:49 PM)papaiela Wrote:  He's a good wing most of the time but yesterday he was too self-conscious and all in his head. It wasn't his best night overall. Besides, he felt like shit after cause I opened this set of two and handed to him a beautiful girl to help him "out of his head". I can help a soldier when he's down, we are fighting together after all.

Not a problem,we all end up there sometimes.

As a player point, right now your wingman is running defense.
He's occupying chicks for you. Maybe handling other obstacles.

Consider that level 1.

You're operating at level 2. You're bringing him opportunities, even though you're aware of his issues.

Now consider option 3.

Tandem

I discussed this at length on the newb board, but instead of him running defense, or you handing him opportunities - think of him as a partner. (not that way you dork)

The two of you should be working together to work groups of girls.
He's the straight man, you're spitting the jokes. Then it turns, he spits jokes, and you're the straight man.

When you work together like this, it's easier to keep him "out of his head". It's also a way for you to stay focused on the prize, and for him to keep you out of your head.

You can both approach, or one of you can approach first and the other steps in to "interrupt".

Together, you guys can create something that it would be very difficult for one of you to do individually.

When you're holding court, if there's a stronger personality in the group - the group can gravitate in that direction. When you have a confederate, when you work with a partner, he can propose an idea, and you can be "one of the group" to push it forward. He can pitbull the haters, and you can look good. Or vice versa.

You guys should be coming up with a game plan every night you go out. Every set should be, I come in, and then you come in. Or "settle a bet"...

(04-24-2016 12:49 PM)papaiela Wrote:  Concerning my dancing monkey syndrome I am most of the time self amused and do not seek approval but I think it's more the pace of the jokes and teasing that I should mix more often with "serious" conversation.

Thanks guys

This is a different issue. You're staying in opening/attraction phase too long, and don't know what to do - other than dance/drink/get a number.

Go back to the manual on this one.

WIA

long story short - went into an LTR. I got caught texting early on a few months in. Now I am sad I ruined a potential unicorn. First LTR as a result of over 1000 approaches. Wasn't looking, it just happened. She says she's still in, trying to get more into my life. Taking this slower now, but it consumes my thoughts and time, the fact I ruined this and second guessing that she could be out. Trying to peel away now and refocus on my health, work and life. Not to let this consume me like it has lately.

Anyone go through this? I thought I would learn not to react like this, by this stage in my life. I have gone through this a few times before. Woman consumes you, you lose frame, try to regain... the carousel turns.

Taking some time to reassess my nightgame approach. Been hitting it hard for a month - results: 3 notches, 2 of which I'd been seen with in public. On the other hand neither of them seems to want to be in the rotation, I've spent $600+ on booze, and my work is suffering. Taking some time off from chasing tail to catch up on my contracts and ensure my income for the next 6 months.

(04-24-2016 02:58 PM)Ensam Wrote:  Taking some time to reassess my nightgame approach. Been hitting it hard for a month - results: 3 notches, 2 of which I'd been seen with in public. On the other hand neither of them seems to want to be in the rotation, I've spent $600+ on booze, and my work is suffering. Taking some time off from chasing tail to catch up on my contracts and ensure my income for the next 6 months.

Out of curiosity, why do you still night game? At your game level I assume you should have no problem day game while going about your business, or online game. Since it appears that night game is causing harm to your wallet + health.

I always assume that the natural progression is night game - day game/social circle game - natural game - harem game ( ) unless one decides to stick with a particular style due to preference.

I went to a meetup with old coworkers from a few years ago. Turns out that one of the girls there that used to be too young is now in college. I beta'd out and don't ask for a number or anything in person, and only talk to her momentarily.

I had to head off soon after. So whilst I was out with other people I sent her a facebook message asking what she was up to tonight. She was very responsive and I told her that it'd be easier if we SMS instead. Got the number with no hesitation.

I organize to meet her later and I get cold feet as it approaches. What do I even talk about? What do I have in common with her? How does escalation work again? I've never set up a date this fast and I got the "feels too good to be true" feeling.
I see her waiting for me at the bar and she already has a drink. I get one from the bar and we just chat about anything that comes to mind. I guess you just need to talk about anything that's not stupid and make sure she's doing the talking instead.

I venue change to a restaurant for more drinks and I do some 'personality tests' on her. I do the 'guess a number between...' Mystery technique which goes very well. I capitalized on "I read a bit about psychology and I thought you'd choose those numbers because of what I've read about your type"; she gobbled that up.

I suggest watching a movie at my place, we bounce and head to mine and we start making out on the train. On the trains she tells me she can't have sex with me tonight and she doesn't want to disappoint me. Sure sure...
After getting to my place we start making out a lot more on the bed and her top comes off. She was wearing jeans and nothing was happening below her waist without a hand to meet me there saying no. I kept trying to break the LMR and ended up getting a handjob out of the ordeal.

I think she was the type to not have sex on the first date so I saved face and organised another date for tomorrow.


Now my next goal (after banging this chick... or concurrently) is to bang a girl that I cold approach. It will be a good feeling and will require me to come out of my shell a lot more.

*raises glass to Uptown*

WIA

Interesting weekend, Friday I had to drive 2 hours one way to get relative spare keys to their car.

Had to bail on the trainer.

Worked a 12 hour day Saturday, met up with the trainer, got COMPLETELY blacked out drunk.

Wasn't my intention but it happened, I turned into a I don't give a fuck asshole, drank more, went to a diner, tossing menus and salt packets at my friends GF (I know her).

I then said I needed to leave, because I realized what I was doing.

Things got worse.

I got in bed, tried fucking, whiskey dick, I kept pushing her away when I wanted to cuddle.

She got dressed, I puked in my bathroom, she was standing in bed, I wanted to her naked again, she got upset.

We had sex again, clearly wasn't working at all. She bounced.

I woke up naked trying to stay warm in a towel, wondering what the fuck happened last night.

I worked for 2 hours sunday and went home thankfully.

I slept all day went to bed at midnight and worked from home half the day today.

I still feel tired as fuck, I really don't want to drink any time soon.

I don't usually apologize but I did with this MILF Trainer.

I felt super shitty about it, then laughed it off. She's cool, I soothed her hamster.

Still can't believe I made a fool of myself like that.

Second date with a Romanian girl who recently broke up with her boyfriend of 11 years.

Walked round the park, grabbed some food then madeout on a bench. She keeps rejecting the bounce back though but I know she's going to come through in the next date or two, so not used to non-first date lays though.

Got a half Pakistani chick lined up for the weekend, she "booked" me 3 weeks earlier because she's "super busy" this month. Really I'm 99% sure she has a boyfriend and she had to plan this in advance to not be suspicious. Was a hot lead a year ago which didn't go through because I had to travel, now it's finally time to close the deal.

Can someone explain the "we're not having sex tonight?" line as in what power balance girls tend to do it? I am guessing it happens when there isn't quite enough attraction built before quickly escalating so she hamster chucks out the road spikes.

I got that line maybe three times or less in my life. Once was a girl that was boasting about what a tease she was and put up a ton of LMR.

Much more often I get "you move fast". It seems so common yet I personally almost never hear "we're not having sex", seems like a real chemistry and moment ruiner on the surface.

I get LMR often enough when I move fast, just not that direct outright statement. More she slows it down physically.

(04-25-2016 08:26 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  

(04-24-2016 02:58 PM)Ensam Wrote:  Taking some time to reassess my nightgame approach. Been hitting it hard for a month - results: 3 notches, 2 of which I'd been seen with in public. On the other hand neither of them seems to want to be in the rotation, I've spent $600+ on booze, and my work is suffering. Taking some time off from chasing tail to catch up on my contracts and ensure my income for the next 6 months.

Out of curiosity, why do you still night game? At your game level I assume you should have no problem day game while going about your business, or online game. Since it appears that night game is causing harm to your wallet + health.

I always assume that the natural progression is night game - day game/social circle game - natural game - harem game ( ) unless one decides to stick with a particular style due to preference.

I mostly night game because of my current situation. I work a 9-5 out in the sticks so I don't encounter many new women through the course of my day. In the early evenings and on weekends I've been running my own business which is lucrative but not very social. Most of my gaming these days happens after I've finished working for the day. That's said my night game isn't typical club/meat market night game. I have a few low key places that fit my vibe on lock. I know the bartenders, I know the regulars, it's where I go to be social. So I'd really characterize it as extended social circle game. I'm mostly gaming strangers but with the benefit of social proof. A girl steps into one of those bars and she's stepping into my world. Both of the hotter girls I've taken home recently were friends of bartenders at my main spot (though I pulled one of them from another spot around town).

For the record, I don't consider my game level to be that high on average. I'd characterize myself as somewhat mediocre with flashes of inspiration. I average about one notch a month and if I were a stickler for quality it'd probably be half that. I've never been able to maintain a rotation, at most I'll be seeing two girls at the same time. Most of what I'm reassessing is how to manage a style that is more or less working for my current situation. I think the main key is to just dial it back a bit and make sure I'm spending money and time on things I enjoy (which does include booze) and not just to chase tail.

(04-25-2016 07:16 PM)Travesty Wrote:  Can someone explain the "we're not having sex tonight?" line as in what power balance girls tend to do it? I am guessing it happens when there isn't quite enough attraction built before quickly escalating so she hamster chucks out the road spikes.

I got that line maybe three times or less in my life. Once was a girl that was boasting about what a tease she was and put up a ton of LMR.

Much more often I get "you move fast". It seems so common yet I personally almost never hear "we're not having sex", seems like a real chemistry and moment ruiner on the surface.

I get LMR often enough when I move fast, just not that direct outright statement. More she slows it down physically.

I've never had a girl say this in recent memory and not ended up fucking her. She's saying it because she's thinking about fucking you. It's her way of convincing herself she's not a slut and transferring any responsibility onto you. My usual response, is ok, but now when you tell me you want it I'm going to make you beg for it. The insanity is, I've told a girl that, half an hour later had her pleading for me to fuck her, then in the morning she's blaming me for making her want to fuck me so badly that she was begging me for it. Go figure.

(04-25-2016 07:16 PM)Travesty Wrote:  Can someone explain the "we're not having sex tonight?" line as in what power balance girls tend to do it? I am guessing it happens when there isn't quite enough attraction built before quickly escalating so she hamster chucks out the road spikes.

I got that line maybe three times or less in my life. Once was a girl that was boasting about what a tease she was and put up a ton of LMR.

Much more often I get "you move fast". It seems so common yet I personally almost never hear "we're not having sex", seems like a real chemistry and moment ruiner on the surface.

I get LMR often enough when I move fast, just not that direct outright statement. More she slows it down physically.

I find I get it when sex is imminent. She's highly aroused and trying to derail the train the Pussy Poundland.

At that point I'd say: "Who says you're getting any?" with a smirk.

"You move fast" I also find to be very soft LMR. I transition to a slightly slower pace but it always goes down in the end.

(04-25-2016 07:16 PM)Travesty Wrote:  Can someone explain the "we're not having sex tonight?" line as in what power balance girls tend to do it? I am guessing it happens when there isn't quite enough attraction built before quickly escalating so she hamster chucks out the road spikes.

I got that line maybe three times or less in my life. Once was a girl that was boasting about what a tease she was and put up a ton of LMR.

Much more often I get "you move fast". It seems so common yet I personally almost never hear "we're not having sex", seems like a real chemistry and moment ruiner on the surface.

I get LMR often enough when I move fast, just not that direct outright statement. More she slows it down physically.

"We're not having sex tonight" =

- Sex is on her brain
- She assumes sex is on your mind too (she assumes whatever she feels, you feel, and gets mad when you don't - typical female psychology. But men are the exact same way in that they can't see past themselves and "logic")

The real key
- She's trying to convince HERSELF.

She's hoping you don't pull any moves.

The solution is basically to run solid game.

- You act, you don't talk
- You agree, and keep moving forward.

But not in the pushy way, i get what I want.

A) The safer play

2 steps forward, 1 step back before she can say a thing.
This is what I like to do. I want to tease her so much that she breaks.

I want a chick grabbing my dick and trying to put it inside of her.

I date 26+ up, so this is the move I prefer.

B) The other play is to keep pushing forward and "agreeing" but still pushing forward.

Chick - "No we can't do this"
Player - "We definitely can't"
*and he puts her hand on her thigh*

It's a variation of A, but you verbalize. When you agree, with whatever she says, she typically doesn't know how to deal with that.

What you do not do, what she's trying to make you do, is use your logical brain.
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A player has a lot of tools, but I'd say 99% of them are designed to hit the emotions, or be non-verbal. That witty repartee shit is for TV.

But she knows that deep down you're a logical rational thinker. She keeps giving your REASONS, because you're reasonable.

You keep throwing emotions at her, because she's EMOTIONAL.

So you don't logic your way into pussy, you pull at her heart strings instead.

WIA

I'm still looking to get my first ever notch. I've been seeing a freshman college girl (same age as her). Met her from one of my classes.

My logistics are bad; I live with my parents and commute everyday, so we would meet in her dorm room every time. The problem is that I've been getting some heavy LMR.

Date 1: Chatted in her room. Got just a makeout and then she had to go.
Date 2: Chatted in her room again. Spent around 6 hours with her battling LMR (I feel like this was a mistake to spend that long with her). She resisted me taking off her shirt and bra. She made me choose between taking off one of them, but I still managed to get her down to just her panties. It was very late, so eventually I gave up and left.
Date 3: Went for a walk around campus. Built tension and made out a little and then went back to her room where I got her undressed again. Her roommate interrupted us and I had to leave.

On date 2 and 3, I'd get the same problem. I'd get her almost naked, but she wouldn't allow anything else. Anytime my hands even got close to her pussy, she would remove them. She'd also rub my dick and dry hump, but not let me whip it out.

Additional Info:
I always made sure to have some good music playing to set the mood and that we drank some alcohol every single time.

I never scheduled her on the weekends. She always got a weekday or a Sunday. That was the only real gamey thing I did. I tried to keep it simple as newbies have a tendency to overgame it seems.

I did some comfort-building over text, but texting was mostly for logistics. I think I established enough comfort through-out the course of our shared class.

I dress better than most of guys on campus. And yes, I read Bang and I lift regularly.

I looked up some LMR threads and I had followed most of their advice. I would periodically freeze-out and pull back, but it didn't really help.

On date 2, she said to me, "Wow, you really know what you want, huh?" I took it as a shit-test and replied with a shrug and a shit-eating grin.
On date 3, she shit-tested me again, "Are you always trying to get me drunk?" to which I replied, "You are the one who chose to drink with me."
I think those shit-tests were passed, albeit weakly.

Some Self-Analysis:
I think the problem is one of these two:

1) she has placed me in the boyfriend category
2) I have triggered extreme ASD

The "game" I play is degenerate/mystery game. I portray myself as a stoic, cynical, and cocky asshole with a questionable moral compass. She always says how she "wants to understand me" and always tells "Talk to me. I want to hear you talk. Tell me what you're thinking". She might be asking for comfort or she is emotionally invested, which I am pretty sure she is. I also think I gave off a strong player vibe (irony ?).

I think she might have ASD because she thinks I will pump 'n' dump her because of my player vibe or she wants to fix my sorry ass and turn me into boyfriend material.

This is my first time really escalating with a girl, so I do not know if the LMR is due to bad game or something else.

My parents will be out of town this weekend and I think I am going to invite her over for dinner at my house and see what I can do there.

Potential plans for disarming the inevitable LMR:
a) I could kick her out of the house, but she would have no way of getting on campus
b) Go nuclear: Tell her she gave me blue balls and just go wank one out if she doesn't act on it.
c) Give up and go to sleep after an hour or so of LMR.

Is this something I should continue pursuing or should I next her? Any other ways to disarm her LMR? Perhaps, I am reading into this and analyzing this way too much.

Let me you know what you think. Any comments or suggestions would be extremely appreciated.

Self Evaluation for 2016

The game has been brutal this year. So far, I've had sex a grand total of one time since the onset of 2016, and that too with a girl I'd banged repeatedly from 2014-2015, and that too in a bizarre cuckold situation(her boyfriend wanted to watch a video of me fucking her...yeah, it was weird for me too). I've gotten blowjobs from two other girls(both of whom were admittedly pretty cute), and fingered another one off of Tinder...and that's it. Had sex with one girl who I'd fucked before, gotten head twice, and fingered a girl once. In contrast, by this point in 2015, I had fucked seven different girls, five of whom I had never smashed before 2015. Even in Fall of 2015, when I transferred to a school with far less of a party/hookup reputation, I banged two girls (one a hot Ethiopian girl who I FWB'ed), gotten head from two others, and fingered two others...and all this in one month, exclusively off of daygame and Tinder.

Daygame was pretty easy back in Fall, and I didn't really do much of it in Winter. Now it's Spring, and while I did see some small result at the beginning of the quarter, the brutal reality is starting to hit me. It might take a literal fuckload of approaches before I get laid even once. Worse still is the fact that I might end up studying abroad in the Middle East for the rest of the year. I'm very interested in the culture and history of the countries that I'll be visiting, and I don't doubt that I'll have a great time there, but I'm also certain that getting laid there will be nigh impossible. Maybe it'll happen once or twice, if I work really hard.

Physically, I've been fucked up. Months of doing 42 deadlifts a week with increasingly bad form have fucked my back and made it impossible to lift. I tried to get back into squats and deads a couple times this year, and ended up fucking up my back even worse. Now I'm completely focused on rehabilitating myself, mostly through swimming or stretching. The back pain has had a negative effect on my general positivity...maybe it's affecting my results, who knows. All I know is that I want to rectify this as soon as possible so I can get back in the gym. Once I actually learn how to squat and deadlift properly(i.e in a way that my ectomorph frame can handle), I have no doubt that I'll be leading a signficantly better life.

Approach wise, however, I have not been doing as much as I could be. Every week I'll probably average twenty-ish approaches, which isn't that much. Winter I maybe daygamed three times. I really should just bite the bullet and spend an hour approaching every day. My goal is honestly just to bang one new girl by the end of the year; I havent actually had sex with a new woman since October.

Thanks for the well thought replies.

I am guessing I don't get to the point of we're not having sex is because I tend to blitz escalation early and sometimes it can take me very far so no LMR, it seems "we're not having sex" comes from slower cook teasing physical escalation.

I think I get "you move so fast" because my escalation often outright surprises girls usually well because I have since reading Bang try to hone my skill in when is the earliest I can possibly escalate with her being receptive and it upping the sexuality of the date. Historically this has served me well.

Preparing for my vegas move June 1st, shall be an epic summer.

I cosign what wia says. I'd like to add my personal experience is the WNHS line is usually a green light that sex is on the table and it usually ends up happening.

My theory is girls say this to make themselves not seem slutty/easy, and partially to convince themselves that they are a "good girl" who is not going to hook up with some guy she just met. It's a classic case of paying attention to her actions not her words.

Also, the only women who say this are slutty easy women. Girls who have been there plenty of times before.

Somehow I have ended up with a three-girl rotation - damn it difficult to maintain! The energy you spend coordinating the timetable and planning is insane. I think I'll write it up as an achievement on my CV.