Its a fact that among those so called refugees agent provokateurs that lead those riots. Even more western activist are leading them and spread rumours. Like the borders will open or they will all get deported and stuff like that. How do those people find an easy way to Germany all over Europe? With their phones. Before the closing of the borders, they did use apps, made by left wing activist that show them the best routes to go. The smugglers that get the money from those people to lead them to Germany, UK and Sweden are well aware what ways and routes they can chose. Now they try to come over Italy again. Its amazing how they react always so fast.

When I tell you, you have to go trough half Europe, how will you manage this? Those people are well connected.

(04-19-2016 10:41 AM)Parzival Wrote:  https://twitter.com/XYEinzelfall
https://www.facebook.com/XY-Einzelfall-1...721071903/
https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid...GfjpzjOS1Q


I posted it before, this is an account of a group, 4 women and 1 men that collect all police reports about immigrants / refugees that commit crime. So there are no made up crimes included. Just read and article about them today. The women that did start the project also said, what we all know already and went public after Cologne, the police often don't release information. To do not disturb the society. And when the police don't make it public, no media outlet or citizen can know about it.
In the interview she also explains, why in smaller towns there are more reports, because there you can hide it less hard. Word of mouth get around more easy. In big cities like Berlin, Frankfurt or Hamburg, police has a more easy game to hide it. She compare it by sexual attacks in a small city and wonder why for example Frankfurt has less assaults with 3.5 more inhabitants.
There is the interview with her, in German of course:
https://jungefreiheit.de/debatte/intervi...h-wuetend/

I like showing that map. It's a fistful of dynamite and shuts up some idiot mouths.

However it shows about 2800 incidents related to migrants/towelheads.
The migrant number from last year was, lets say, 700000 (340K official).
2800/700000 is 0.004. Cutting some mathematical corners, this means that more or less, 0,4% of migrants are criminals.(about 2 in 500 migrants are rapists)
If you say that only one in ten cases are reported (imagine 28000 cases), the ratio would then be 4% (about 4 in 100 migrants are rapists)
(I neglected gang raping and etc, and assumed instead that each incident was done by a single towelhead.)

Naturally I can use more favorable or unfavorable numbers. As a personal preference I always like to do this stuff with the numbers that would be the worst for my demonstration (it becomes more difficult to challenge).

My questions to this analysis:
1) Is that math/logic behind it correct or am I missing something?
2) If it is correct, at which point/number does it become a "relevant" number? As much as I dislike them i have to concede that 2 in 500 is not a very relevant number.

There are police reports out there, that quote between 10 to 20 % of the refugees commit crimes. But rape a women or do a shoplifting both are crimes. Also it very different what kind of people they are and where they live. Some pages ago I showed the crime map of Germany. When you live in NRW, the state where Cologne is, there you have more northern Africans. They commit more crimes than real Syrians that escape the war. NRW, Berlin or Hamburg are worse then Bavaria.
Germany is still a very safe country still in my areas there had be a few rapes and even more sexual assaults as well. The new crime report is not released full, even when they say, sexual assaults and rapes got down for -4.4 %. In general women are still safe but you have to be more aware I would say. Some areas in Germany are more dangerous then others.

Just a shooting in Munich

http://www.sueddeutsche.de/muenchen/poli...-1.2957610

Quote:Apparently there were at just before 18:00 a clash between three persons, two men and a woman said to have fought on the road, according to the police. Here is a man who shot another, the 24-year-old man from Syria was injured by three shots and taken to hospital, but isn't in mortal danger. Also the woman from Syria was unhurt.

The 40 year old offender from Iraq was placed on the Zentnerstrasse front of a house. Now he sits injured on the road and threatened to shoot himself.

Kind of a relationship drama. Those arabs are hot blooded. I guess thats why the German girls cheer so much for them. And why have those people always guns?

(04-19-2016 01:53 PM)Parzival Wrote:  Just a shooting in Munich

http://www.sueddeutsche.de/muenchen/poli...-1.2957610

Quote:Apparently there were at just before 18:00 a clash between three persons, two men and a woman said to have fought on the road, according to the police. Here is a man who shot another, the 24-year-old man from Syria was injured by three shots and taken to hospital, but isn't in mortal danger. Also the woman from Syria was unhurt.

The 40 year old offender from Iraq was placed on the Zentnerstrasse front of a house. Now he sits injured on the road and threatened to shoot himself.

Kind of a relationship drama. Those arabs are hot blooded. I guess thats why the German girls cheer so much for them. And why have those people always guns?

Because gun control works.

Quote: And why have those people always guns?

They obviously got them from America. That's the only place you can get guns.

(04-19-2016 01:53 PM)Parzival Wrote:  Just a shooting in Munich

http://www.sueddeutsche.de/muenchen/poli...-1.2957610

Quote:Apparently there were at just before 18:00 a clash between three persons, two men and a woman said to have fought on the road, according to the police. Here is a man who shot another, the 24-year-old man from Syria was injured by three shots and taken to hospital, but isn't in mortal danger. Also the woman from Syria was unhurt.

The 40 year old offender from Iraq was placed on the Zentnerstrasse front of a house. Now he sits injured on the road and threatened to shoot himself.

Kind of a relationship drama. Those arabs are hot blooded. I guess thats why the German girls cheer so much for them. And why have those people always guns?

What else are they going to do with their mosques?

Oh dear Muslim overloads, we are so sorry for offending you again. Please rape some of our women, that you see how much understanding we Germans have for our cultural enrichment.

Art show and the artist put down a picture, because it was offensive for minor refugees.

http://www.derwesten.de/staedte/dortmund...73114.html

Quote:    

On March 1, decided the foreign company (AG) and the artist Franz Ott, put down one of his paintings out of consideration for the traumatized minor refugees who had feel offended.

As Ott had put down the picture just before the opening on March 3, it came in the foyer to tumultuous scenes, says Martina Plum from the AG. Many of the male refugees freak out and accosted with obscene gestures around in front of the picture, the other demanded indignantly, detaching it immediately, because it show a woman in a for them unbearably humiliating situation. Ott and Plum hung the picture again. On March 4, we reported.

Funny how they complain that it is humiliating for the women. Those that see western women has pure sluts and did show their pure disrespect to our culture. The picture maybe shitty and crap, but of course freak out and screaming to get what you want, this is the way of those people. And soft Germans bow down.
In this case it was also the will of the artist, but it can be also different:

http://www.bz-berlin.de/berlin/treptow-k...en-waenden

Quote:Because religious feelings of visitors with an immigrant background can be injured, the Culture Office in Berlin-Köpenick took nude photos of the wall. Artists outraged.

Quote:In response to the censorship, other photographers put down their photos also. According to "Berliner Woche" and "courier" says Gerhard Metzschker, director of participating in the exhibition Color clubs Treptow: "We have suspended all 32 Photos of our Club members for solidarity. It is totally unacceptable that nude photography is provided by the district in the grubby corner. "

So not everyone back down and this stuff lead to many outrage in the comments and angry reactions. We reach the point where the water almost boil.

Interesting article

http://gatesofvienna.net/2016/04/thilo-s...more-39441

Talks about something I hadn't considered before. If Germany and the EU give in to Turkey's demand that they be allowed to travel to Europe visa-free not only would it flood the continent with thirsty Turks it could set off the next refugee/migrant wave. With the way Turkey suppresses their Kurdish population it doesn't seem unlikely that the many of the 16+ million Kurds there would hop on a plane then claim refugee status once they land in Europe, better claim to actual refugee status than most that are currently arriving from ''Syria''

Relevant paragraph:

Quote:By the summer we will even know whether the price Europe is paying for the agreement is acceptable: Turkey would like the visa exemption for her citizens. In order to acquire it, the refugee waves serve as a lever to exert pressure. Visa exemption could, however, signify the next large wave of refugees: 30 percent of Turkish citizens are of Kurdish origin. Erdogan’s government is waging war against this minority. For the Kurds who have been persecuted and victimised by this war it could be very easy in the future should they wish to apply for asylum in Europe: They would only have to board an aeroplane with valid personal identification, and their reasons for asylum would be at least as good as those of numerous Eritreans, Afghans and Syrians. Did Angela Merkel consider the implications of visa exemption for Turkey or did she approve them? No matter how one looks at it, there is no concept to be discerned either intellectually or practically in the German refugee policy.

On heartiste, one of the commenters made an interesting point about the cuckiness of the Germans, Anglos, and Scandinavians with regards to Islam. If you look back, these groups have never really fought against Muslim invaders and are therefore unfamiliar with the brutality of Islam.

Southern and Eastern Euros have had many historical run-ins with the religion of peace and hence they are wary of it.

Looks like someone is going to have to save the Germans from themselves once again.

(04-20-2016 03:24 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  On heartiste, one of the commenters made an interesting point about the cuckiness of the Germans, Anglos, and Scandinavians with regards to Islam. If you look back, these groups have never really fought against Muslim invaders and are therefore unfamiliar with the brutality of Islam.

Southern and Eastern Euros have had many historical run-ins with the religion of peace and hence they are wary of it.

Looks like someone is going to have to save the Germans from themselves once again.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusades

Heartiste's site is an echo chamber; you should fact check everything, not just stuff the left says.

Whats with the siege of Vienna? Or the battle of Tours / Poitiers? Germans did fight in the crusades as well.
And its kind of a joke to call Germans cucks when they did stand strong in World War I & II. The whole change is a modern re education thing. And who should save Germans for themselves? Without the US intervention in World War II we hadn't this issues. Even more, without the US supporting Terror groups and bomb stable countries into the ground, the mass exodus wouldn't exist.

^Cotdamn, Parzival tellin' it like it is.

Weiter so, Jürgen!

He is right.

(04-20-2016 03:24 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  On heartiste, one of the commenters made an interesting point about the cuckiness of the Germans, Anglos, and Scandinavians with regards to Islam. If you look back, these groups have never really fought against Muslim invaders and are therefore unfamiliar with the brutality of Islam.

Southern and Eastern Euros have had many historical run-ins with the religion of peace and hence they are wary of it.

Looks like someone is going to have to save the Germans from themselves once again.

My european history knowledge isn't great but didn't the Ottomans try to invade parts of modern Germany/Austria?

(04-19-2016 11:27 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  Ha - Rapefugees in Greece set up check-points and refuse locals entry through certain roads:





They claim that it is a protest of theirs due to the fact that they are not let through to their German nirvana.

Indeed - when I come over to Saudi Arabia, band together 100 guys and start occupying Saudi territory demanding IDs and papers from local citizens, then I am sure, that they will see it as a legitimate form of protest.

I have long ago decided that if BLM, refugees, or whoever is blocking a road as a form of protest, I'm going to drive right through them.

I posted this in the Ukraine III thread also.

Doesn't look like it has passed but merely being pushed. But within this article about Ukraine non visa travel is the discussion of Turkey having visa free travel also in exchange for dealing with the refugees.

I hope the Western countries stop these ideas. There was some story (folklore) about how they sent a cat to get a mouse, something to get the vat, so and so on. These solutions just create a need to find a solution to fix the previous solution.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/...o-ukraine/

EU offers visa-free travel to Ukraine

Quote:Forty million Ukrainians will be able to travel to continental Europe without a visa, under a major loosening of border policy unveiled in Brussels today.

Ukrainian citizens with biometric passports will be permitted to enter 30 states in the Schengen zone for 90 days for tourism or business.

The move, part of the EU’s strategy of embracing the crisis-hit Kiev government, caused anger in the Netherlands. Dutch voters rejected closer ties with Ukraine under a separate association agreement in a referendum exactly two weeks ago.

The issue of free movement was a major factor in turning Dutch voters against the treaty to harmonise trade and justice policy with Kiev, said Thierry Baudet, of the Forum for Democracy think tank which led the ‘No’ campaign.

“It's a separate treaty, but it has been very clear throughout the campaign here that people did not want visa free travel,” he said. “It was a big concern of many people. It's another form of the EU not listening to people, and pursuing its own agenda.”

One diplomat admitted the vote had meant the Kiev talks were no longer a “mathematical exercise.”

“People will say ‘Woah, where are we now and what are we going to do?’”

The plans – to be presented to national governments and the European Parliament, will boost “people-to-people contacts and strengthen business, social and cultural ties between the EU and Ukraine,” said Dmitris Avramopoulos, the migration commissioner.

The EU is offering a similar scheme to grant visa-free travel to 70 million Turkish citizens from June, in exchange for Turkey halting the flow of refugees into Europe and accepting the deportation of those who do make the crossing.

However, that deal looks at risk of falling apart just weeks before the UK referendum on June 23 – raising the prospect of a return to chaos in the Aegean weeks ahead of the EU referendum if Turkey scales back its coast guard patrols.

The EU has handed Turkey a two-week deadline to complete a radical overhaul of its migration system, including clearing a backlog of 140,000 asylum cases, rewriting data protection and human rights laws and granting refugees access to the labour market.

“No visa liberalisation can be offered if not all benchmarks are met,” said Mr Avramopoulos.

But on Monday Ahmet Davutoglu, the Turkish Prime Minister, insisted: “The visa exemption will come into effect in June. If this doesn't happen, obviously nobody can expect Turkey to hold its side of the deal.”

If you're a man living in Europe and you're not in fighting condition and armed then you are playing Russian roulette with way more rounds in the cylinder than need be.

(04-21-2016 01:35 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  If you're a man living in Europe and you're not in fighting condition and armed then you are playing Russian roulette with way more rounds in the cylinder than need be.

Its all nice in theory but you cant just fight, you get jailed just for looking angrily on a rapefugee faster then you count to 5.

Lets make a new country and let the leftist have it all...

(04-21-2016 01:39 AM)Glaucon Wrote:  

(04-21-2016 01:35 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  If you're a man living in Europe and you're not in fighting condition and armed then you are playing Russian roulette with way more rounds in the cylinder than need be.

Its all nice in theory but you cant just fight, you get jailed just for looking angrily on a rapefugee faster then you count to 5.

Lets make a new country and let the leftist have it all...

History demonstrates that shit can happen faster than you think.

Being fit and armed is not about what your country is going to end up like. It's about having some options when you wake up to find an Islamic riot in your back yard.

Thats the only way we can chose. Prepare and wait. Beat up a bunch of refugees because they make noise or litter the area will bring consequences. Build a vigilante group is not always easy. Some just share information or walk around and call the police when they notice something. Others become more militia and start to attack foreigners in general. The last one brings again, legal consequences. Or when you walk around and see an attack happen, and you beat them up you can also face legal consequences. For that, just beat them up and leave the spot. Still police can catch you. Not even talk about guns, not even in the US you just can gun down people.

The hole situation depends where you live. The next big city with 500.000 inhabitants is among the most safest in Germany. Still there had be reports about sexual assaults and even rapes, commit by refugees / migrants. So who know what will come in summer. I don't see walk me around and look for some arrogant hipster girl that I could might be protect.
Stay in shape is always important, also to have boundary to your local community. There you can share information. When your area is bad, better move or start to gather other people that think similar. I'm lucky to live in a small town area, the worst stuff that did happen is littering. Violent attacks just had be inside the refugee camps. Many of them fight each other before they start trouble outside with a German.
Store some food and water, connect to your people and stay in shape, thats the best you can do at the moment. When the situation get worse, your local group has to make a decision depending on the local situation. For some it can be form protest groups, do demonstrations. Some take a step further and start violent acts. Still I wonder why people in eastern Germany or very rural areas make stronger protest or even violent acts compare to people in big cities where the situation is really out of hand with complete districts in the hand of migrants. I just know from shop owners in Berlin that they hire security for certain spots because of all the trouble they have. And police can't help because their hands are bound from the politicians and the court system. I'm just glad that I live in a more peaceful and rural area. When the riots start, they start in the big cities because all the refugees / migrants live there.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/04/60...42240.html

Africans sailing to the American continent with those shitty boats? What is this? The fact that they reached Costa Rica is a miracle already. One of them said it's harder to get into Europe (lol?) So they are trying to reach the USA instead.

CULTURAL ENRICHMENT COMING YOUR WAY

Just keep in mind what the Vikings did conquer with their boats. When people move in masses, at one point they will reach their goal. The question is how will they expected? I hope fortress Europe will rise, then the US can harvest the fruits of their work. And guys keep in mind #blacklivesmatter

(04-20-2016 03:24 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  Looks like someone is going to have to save the Germans from themselves once again.

The Germans do not have control of their nation and, as such, have been systematically demoralized and brainwashed over the last seventy years. When the demoralization and brainwashing doesn't work, force is applied. It's tough to blame them.

More cultural enrichment:

http://www.welt.de/regionales/hamburg/ar...achen.html

Quote:Because of a fatal attack on his wife with hot oil, at the Hamburg District Court a 49-year-old Afghan was sentenced to ten years in prison. The defendant had an attempted murder and aggravated assault guilty, the presiding judge Wolfgang Backen said Thursday.

Then the attack on a 14 old girl by a girls gang:

http://www.news.de/panorama/855637021/fo...herwald/1/

Quote:The 14-year-old met with their girlfriends (13) at the station of Bad Friedrichshall, it says on "bild.de". During the evening they meet a group of girls who only want one thing: trouble. The gang consists of four girls aged between 14 and 16 years.

The secondary school students have no chance against the bullying of the gang. The 9th grade gives them money, but that's not enough. The police report states: "Under massive threats and supported by the attendants, she was taken in the close forest"

There the cruel torture begins: The violent group should have extinguished a cigarette on the hand of the girl. "They have set my hair on fired and sprayed me pepper spray into the eyes. They forces me to undress topless and cut my bra. I was just hoping that they finally stop.", The girl is on "bild.de "cited. They should also have hit her with a stick until it broke.

Shortly after, the police can set the group. A witness had given the decisive clue. About two accused warrant was issued because of grievous bodily harm and extortion ". In prison sit a 14-year-old Serb girl and a 14-year-old Turkish girl you mention both," reads the part of the police.

In other report they say, the both leader girls are well known die hard criminals with a long record.