(03-23-2016 11:44 AM)Sosa Wrote:  And when the war breaks out it's going to be sudden and happen in a matter of hours. There will be no warning. Everyone's lives will change literally overnight.

Come on guys, you can't mean this serious.

I honestly would like to know from you, Sosa, what do you think will happen. What do you imagine exactly by "sudden" and "happen in a matter of hours"?

The only thing I could imagine, when things change quickly, is when nuclear missiles being fired.

Do you really think on day x thousands of migrants will storm gun shops in France or Germany or England and will kill every living being on the streets?
Or they on day x storm every single barracks and grab every gun, every helicopter, every aircraft and tank and invade France or England from within?

In my honest opinion this won't happen!

Let's be adequate realistic here. Of course it is very hard to predict what will happen, but one fact is clear, it's not like in the movies. Nobody can predict which social dynamics will emerge in such cases. If I would be forced to draw a rough doomsday scenario of one country it would be the following:

Starting point: Today

1)
Assassination attempts occur more frequently within Europe. Time interval now is a few months but it will change to a few weeks/days. So you have several bomb/IEDs going off within a week in the last resort.

2)
Multiple social dynamics will arise:

-- This is the time when people start staying at home and barricade their homes and go only out to refill there stocks with food/water
-- To reach out for groceries will become quickly more difficult because most people will refuse to work
-- Cities infrastructures will die away
-- You will have a few people who still demonstrate against the government/police
-- People will travel to the countryside and start building autonomous areas
-- And many more things of course which don't come into my mind at the moment

But don't underestimate the law enforcement / police & military power. They must and will react when things happen which I wrote under 2) because your government intends to keep everything up and running -> $$

3)
-- Declaration of a national state of emergency
-- Borders will be closed
-- Police and the military will clean whole districts and force relocation and incarceration of refugees in camps
-- Mass deportation with busses and ships

4)
-- In the best case things will calm down and continue to evolving / going back to a normal state

So this would be my doomsday scenario. Again guys. Just imagine you will have multiple bombs going off within a month. This is heavily unimaginable if you ask me. Think of it how crazy this is!

(03-23-2016 12:12 PM)amity Wrote:  

(03-23-2016 11:53 AM)DamienCasanova Wrote:  I'm very afraid for the UEFA Euro's this year in France, what is usually Europe's best Soccer event every 4 years could be a real disaster if infiltrated and sabotaged, and could be a very nasty scene this year with all the problems France has been having with migrants and terrorists.

I expect Security will be massive this time round.
They're not going to risk the lives of thousands of foreign and domestic supporters surely.

It will be massive, but "massive security" isn't worth much when you have entire streets, districts and cities plotting to kill you. If you don't believe me, just ask any military guy who's done an Iraq tour.

http://www.welt.de/regionales/bayern/art...ayern.html

Quote:Bavarian Interior Minister presented the police crime statistics, 2015. The crime has declined slightly. Worried Herrmann showed about the rise of non-German suspects.

Worried Herrmann showed however respect the opposite tendency: In the crime, the number of non-German suspects, the proportion of Germans increases decreases. This trend - even without considering the applicant - continues. While the share of non-German suspects in 2011 still at 24.2 percent, it rose in 2015 to 31.5 per cent. So that this value is well above the statistical proportion of people with an immigrant background in the population in Bavaria. This is according to information from the Bavarian State Office for Statistics just under 20 percent.

What we will see in the future are more terror attacks, more wimpy reactions. More crime, more assaults, more no go areas where migrants rule. Germans or Europeans will move out. The streets will be less safe.
We will get gated communities. Those invaders will do more riots when they notice how strong they are, how weak Eurpeans are. That even when they get a punishment, its a joke for them. We will lose the ground and have a more unsafe life.
It will be a depressing future with criminal gang activities, rapes and terror attacks. A few lucky ones will be safe in their areas. The big cities will fall to the invaders.

(03-23-2016 01:19 PM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

(03-23-2016 12:12 PM)amity Wrote:  

(03-23-2016 11:53 AM)DamienCasanova Wrote:  I'm very afraid for the UEFA Euro's this year in France, what is usually Europe's best Soccer event every 4 years could be a real disaster if infiltrated and sabotaged, and could be a very nasty scene this year with all the problems France has been having with migrants and terrorists.

I expect Security will be massive this time round.
They're not going to risk the lives of thousands of foreign and domestic supporters surely.

It will be massive, but "massive security" isn't worth much when you have entire streets, districts and cities plotting to kill you. If you don't believe me, just ask any military guy who's done an Iraq tour.

Yeah, France is already ground zero for so many sleeper cells like Calais etc...and they targeted the France vs Germany game last year at Stade de France as well so you know when the whole world is watching France in June they will try something I believe. How do you prevent suicide bombers from just walking into a crowd of people outside a stadium and detonating there? Terrifying stuff to contemplate, and sadly I won't be able to make it to the Euros this year either, as my plan had been to attend one finally until the recent terror attacks and travel warnings.

(03-23-2016 01:09 PM)RandomGuy1 Wrote:  

(03-23-2016 11:44 AM)Sosa Wrote:  And when the war breaks out it's going to be sudden and happen in a matter of hours. There will be no warning. Everyone's lives will change literally overnight.

Come on guys, you can't mean this serious.

I honestly would like to know from you, Sosa, what do you think will happen. What do you imagine exactly by "sudden" and "happen in a matter of hours"?

The only thing I could imagine, when things change quickly, is when nuclear missiles being fired.

Do you really think on day x thousands of migrants will storm gun shops in France or Germany or England and will kill every living being on the streets?
Or they on day x storm every single barracks and grab every gun, every helicopter, every aircraft and tank and invade France or England from within?

In my honest opinion this won't happen!

Let's be adequate realistic here. Of course it is very hard to predict what will happen, but one fact is clear, it's not like in the movies. Nobody can predict which social dynamics will emerge in such cases. If I would be forced to draw a rough doomsday scenario of one country it would be the following:

Starting point: Today

1)
Assassination attempts occur more frequently within Europe. Time interval now is a few months but it will change to a few weeks/days. So you have several bomb/IEDs going off within a week in the last resort.

2)
Multiple social dynamics will arise:

-- This is the time when people start staying at home and barricade their homes and go only out to refill there stocks with food/water
-- To reach out for groceries will become quickly more difficult because most people will refuse to work
-- Cities infrastructures will die away
-- You will have a few people who still demonstrate against the government/police
-- People will travel to the countryside and start building autonomous areas
-- And many more things of course which don't come into my mind at the moment

But don't underestimate the law enforcement / police & military power. They must and will react when things happen which I wrote under 2) because your government intends to keep everything up and running -> $$

3)
-- Declaration of a national state of emergency
-- Borders will be closed
-- Police and the military will clean whole districts and force relocation and incarceration of refugees in camps
-- Mass deportation with busses and ships

4)
-- In the best case things will calm down and continue to evolving / going back to a normal state

So this would be my doomsday scenario. Again guys. Just imagine you will have multiple bombs going off within a month. This is heavily unimaginable if you ask me. Think of it how crazy this is!

So basically, war?

War is long periods of mindnumbing boredom followed by short bursts of what the fuck just happened.

I was worried about massive civil war and a WW3 breakout when I was in Afghanistan in 2014. So I engineered an early exit from the military before war broke out in 2016/17 to be near family. Now I'm leaning towards a May/June 16 time frame.

I never talked about it accept to my parents because everyone just thinks you're crazy, but not now. Trump is the best thing to happen to the world because he's about the only man that can get us through this with minimal violence.

Civil war is simply a matter of when now, and of in what country it will start first.

I actually think it might begin with France, as strange as it may sound. Not because the French are fierce or more pissed off or anything. Like Jackson said, for most of history war/civil war is not an official declaration "ok guys we decided that we're going to war, draft is tormorrow". It's more like you chilling in pearl harbor drinking mojito and kaboom the bar blows up.

French has the national past time of going on strike/demonstration/protests. In the current context is just a recipe for disaster. One wrong insult or a punch thrown could lead to people beating up each other, then someone gets killed and hell opens its gates.

The big question is, what are the deciding factors to win the war? I would consider the police/military even a portion of it supporting the patriots to be instrumental if an uprising is to be successful. When it comes down to it, would soldiers (usually redpill, patriotic, tough guys) willingly fire upon their own people because "the order said so"? What do you guys think?

(03-23-2016 04:43 PM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  Civil war is simply a matter of when now, and of in what country it will start first.

I actually think it might begin with France, as strange as it may sound. Not because the French are fierce or more pissed off or anything. Like Jackson said, for most of history war/civil war is not an official declaration "ok guys we decided that we're going to war, draft is tormorrow". It's more like you chilling in pearl harbor drinking mojito and kaboom the bar blows up.

French has the national past time of going on strike/demonstration/protests. In the current context is just a recipe for disaster. One wrong insult or a punch thrown could lead to people beating up each other, then someone gets killed and hell opens its gates.

The big question is, what are the deciding factors to win the war? I would consider the police/military even a portion of it supporting the patriots to be instrumental if an uprising is to be successful. When it comes down to it, would soldiers (usually redpill, patriotic, tough guys) willingly fire upon their own people because "the order said so"? What do you guys think?

reporting from berlin. from what I see, the cops here (though many are women) are all super tough looking dudes. the police here really know how to react and deal with problems and show up in massive paddy wagons, dozens if not hundreds at a time. the cops have been letting criminals off with literally nothing lately, and I think this cannot go on forever. for whatever we hear about or read about that trickles through online, the cops see it first hand. im sure they are as fed up as anyone with whats going on. they can see who the criminals are.

Im sure they will try to maintain order to the bitter end, but if things really kicked off, theres no way they wouldn't side with german people. once all order truly breaks down you resort to people you trust.

I have no proof, but just a hunch the reason the criminals are let off is to keep statistics low and make sure there is no reporting of crime. imagine how much that would pain you as a cop. scary stuff whats going on. be careful out there guys

I did a quote where the German police go on a rant. They rant about that they have to release offenders all the time. Even when they catch them 30 to 40 times in a row. They do a report and the offender is back on the street. The offenders even think its a joke but commit direct crimes again. But Berlin is a different place. They did size the force at Alexanderplatz but still don't get the control back there.
Compare to Munich, Berlin is a failed city.

About the civil war in France. That can be true. I quote a news report about France where the police confess they can not keep up any longer with all the terror warnings they get and that 2016 will be hell. From hardcore dshihadist to students that go crazy with knives and attack people. Also the French are no to keep less shit. Generation Identiare did starte in France. They are more know for revolution, protest and so on. Just keep in mind about the Foreign Legion that did a cup in the Algier war. For Germany, I don't think so. Sure you had HoGeSa, where Hooligans did march in Cologne, you have Pegida. But Pegida is mostly old men that are peaceful. Also don't forget for every national demonstration in Germany you get Antifa counter demonstration that is by far more violent. Many blame right wing demonstration but even the Neo Nazis have some respect from the police. Not the Antifa.

The German police is not stupid, even not in Berlin. In some states they are just hold down by politicians. Imagine a civil war in Europe, this means certain areas will chose a side. Why shouldn't Berlin cops just move to Bavaria? Let Berlin burn, Berlin would deserve it. Put their skills into Bavaria that will be protective to their families.

(03-22-2016 02:11 PM)Samseau Wrote:  I just wanted to step in for a moment;

Ancient Europeans most certainly did have a notion of race, and between Black and White people. The concept of race is not new contrary to what many modern ignorant academics tell you, it's just that people rarely talked about it back in the day because Whites used to be the most numerous people on the planet. Blacks and Asians were too remote and few for Whites to talk about them, they just usually lumped them into the barbarian category because it was convenient.

Regardless I have historical documents with EXPLICIT race realism dating back in 300 AD, I'm sure I could find more if I looked for them.

I agree they knew about racial differences, anyone with a pair of eyes is aware of that, but that's not the question, the question is whether they defined themselves and the world primarily along those lines. We know they didn't. Romans didn't think of many other whites as being one of them or even on their level. They didn't recognize whiteness as grounds for kinship or mutual obligation because it was irrelevant. Was ethnicity and lineage a part of their sense of nationality? Yes, I don't deny that, what I deny is the idea that they looked upon white non-Romans with special sympathy, because the suggestion that they should would have been met with mirth.

Quote:In Ancient Judaism, for example, it was a crime for a Jewish woman to marry outside of her race. So don't say the concept of race traitors never existed, it's been around for thousands of years.

Yes, but unless I'm mistaken, the ancient Jews were ethnically, religiously and politically unique all at once. Modern whites aren't, in fact they are very much separated by legitimate and organic divisions far more important than any imagined racial allegiance. As for the question of intermarriage, you're right, in many tribes and nations it was prohibited to marry non-members...Rome had similar laws, but that was based on social membership, not ethnicity per se, although that would probably have weighed in any consideration of a potential match. Nevertheless, a Caledonian certainly would have gotten no favorable points on account of ethnicity.

So if someone wants to talk about people betraying their nation and including ethnicity as a part of that, that's a concept that makes sense, and it's perfectly worthy of discussion. If someone wants to argue that an Irishman and a Moldovan are united in obligation because they're both white, or that a Latvian can feasibly "betray" an New Zealander as though they share some common allegiance, that doesn't make any sense.

Honest question: was Cortes a "race traitor" to Spain when he took a Nahuatl woman as his mistress and had children with her? Did any Spaniards object on those grounds at the time? This is what the concept implies, and it doesn't seem to me to have any real basis.

I will post something more substantial soon, but had to post those few links, because they are too funny in a dark humor way:

Polish translation of a Spiegel article (cannot find the original - maybe pulled, but Eng-translation should work fine).

http://wiadomosci.onet.pl/prasa/kto-chce...nac/ndt3nc

In it you see the entire craziness of the system since the terrorists as well as many other non-terrorists are just collecting identities and financial support from 5-20 countries.

In addition Jihadists are laughing about Europeans:

Quote:Jubilant ISIS supporters launch sick web poll to choose the next target of
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...z43oMENbhb
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebooka terror attack asking: 'What colour will the Eiffel Tower be next?'

http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/justiz/ko...79089.html

Also here the first conviction of a Cologne rapefugee - laughter in the room as the judge realized that the authorities don't have a correct name, age nor nationality. Essentially they would not even know where to send him back even if deported.



This is barely the beginning. The goal of the elite is becoming ever more clear to me - I will post more on it later. The recent NATO military command doc was also quite telling.

Why the hell are there "ghettoes" of Muslims? Your stupid governments in Europe allow these people to settle in close knit enclaves.
Put an Arab in a majority white neighbourhood, and no matter what he thinks about it, he won't do shit.

(03-23-2016 05:07 PM)Cosmonaut Wrote:  

(03-23-2016 04:43 PM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  Civil war is simply a matter of when now, and of in what country it will start first.

I actually think it might begin with France, as strange as it may sound. Not because the French are fierce or more pissed off or anything. Like Jackson said, for most of history war/civil war is not an official declaration "ok guys we decided that we're going to war, draft is tormorrow". It's more like you chilling in pearl harbor drinking mojito and kaboom the bar blows up.

French has the national past time of going on strike/demonstration/protests. In the current context is just a recipe for disaster. One wrong insult or a punch thrown could lead to people beating up each other, then someone gets killed and hell opens its gates.

The big question is, what are the deciding factors to win the war? I would consider the police/military even a portion of it supporting the patriots to be instrumental if an uprising is to be successful. When it comes down to it, would soldiers (usually redpill, patriotic, tough guys) willingly fire upon their own people because "the order said so"? What do you guys think?

reporting from berlin. from what I see, the cops here (though many are women) are all super tough looking dudes. the police here really know how to react and deal with problems and show up in massive paddy wagons, dozens if not hundreds at a time. the cops have been letting criminals off with literally nothing lately, and I think this cannot go on forever. for whatever we hear about or read about that trickles through online, the cops see it first hand. im sure they are as fed up as anyone with whats going on. they can see who the criminals are.

Im sure they will try to maintain order to the bitter end, but if things really kicked off, theres no way they wouldn't side with german people. once all order truly breaks down you resort to people you trust.

I have no proof, but just a hunch the reason the criminals are let off is to keep statistics low and make sure there is no reporting of crime. imagine how much that would pain you as a cop. scary stuff whats going on. be careful out there guys

It's not the cops letting people go, but the politically connected prosecutors who are getting orders from above.

The police and military wouldn't shoot on native Germans. I am willing to bet that the governments will start to arm the muslim invaders though.

Curiously, you'd think the Russian mafia and other arms dealers would be running weapons shipments into western Europe. I'd buy a gun illegally if it meant there would be roving sharia gangs.

For all the darkness we face, some inspiring light...

(03-23-2016 11:27 PM)Saga Wrote:  

(03-22-2016 02:11 PM)Samseau Wrote:  I just wanted to step in for a moment;

Ancient Europeans most certainly did have a notion of race, and between Black and White people. The concept of race is not new contrary to what many modern ignorant academics tell you, it's just that people rarely talked about it back in the day because Whites used to be the most numerous people on the planet. Blacks and Asians were too remote and few for Whites to talk about them, they just usually lumped them into the barbarian category because it was convenient.

Regardless I have historical documents with EXPLICIT race realism dating back in 300 AD, I'm sure I could find more if I looked for them.

I agree they knew about racial differences, anyone with a pair of eyes is aware of that, but that's not the question, the question is whether they defined themselves and the world primarily along those lines. We know they didn't. Romans didn't think of many other whites as being one of them or even on their level. They didn't recognize whiteness as grounds for kinship or mutual obligation because it was irrelevant. Was ethnicity and lineage a part of their sense of nationality? Yes, I don't deny that, what I deny is the idea that they looked upon white non-Romans with special sympathy, because the suggestion that they should would have been met with mirth.

Quote:In Ancient Judaism, for example, it was a crime for a Jewish woman to marry outside of her race. So don't say the concept of race traitors never existed, it's been around for thousands of years.

Yes, but unless I'm mistaken, the ancient Jews were ethnically, religiously and politically unique all at once. Modern whites aren't, in fact they are very much separated by legitimate and organic divisions far more important than any imagined racial allegiance. As for the question of intermarriage, you're right, in many tribes and nations it was prohibited to marry non-members...Rome had similar laws, but that was based on social membership, not ethnicity per se, although that would probably have weighed in any consideration of a potential match. Nevertheless, a Caledonian certainly would have gotten no favorable points on account of ethnicity.

So if someone wants to talk about people betraying their nation and including ethnicity as a part of that, that's a concept that makes sense, and it's perfectly worthy of discussion. If someone wants to argue that an Irishman and a Moldovan are united in obligation because they're both white, or that a Latvian can feasibly "betray" an New Zealander as though they share some common allegiance, that doesn't make any sense.

Honest question: was Cortes a "race traitor" to Spain when he took a Nahuatl woman as his mistress and had children with her? Did any Spaniards object on those grounds at the time? This is what the concept implies, and it doesn't seem to me to have any real basis.

Race is a modern scientific word. That is easily forgotten, but the very origins of race has everything to do with the modern scientific breakthrough and Darwinism. Race, is a solid, hard scientific fact, unlike what post-modern marxists claim.

My understanding of antiquity is that race as science was not used or useful. The amount of Sub Saharan Africans, Nubians or Han people in Rome would be small. We have to remember that most of the world was white in antiquity. The entirety of modern day Persia, Caucasus, all the way to Western China was Indo-European/Indo-Aryan, centuries before Turks, Mongols, Huns and Arabs permanently changed the makeup.

Few people know it, but all of Europe, all of ancient Persia, all of Anatolia was closely related genetically and culturally. The differences were more like modern day Scandinavia vs Italians and Greeks, than different races.

What we do know is that when the Indo-Aryans arrived in India, bringing with them words for Mead and Bears in Sanskrit - proving a Northern origin, they instigated a racial based caste system, which has lasted to this day with the untouchable Dalit often the darkest, while the highest caste the Bhramin often being the lightest.

Almost all European and Near East culture originates from the same Indo-Aryan culture.

(03-23-2016 01:20 PM)Parzival Wrote:  ...
We will get gated communities.
...

Only for the super rich.

You can bet your ass that future attempts by the middle class to create such communities will be outlawed as a form of subtle racism.

Alternately local councils will simply with-hold approval for any application towards those ends.

Anyone heard of this? Need a confirm/deny

(03-24-2016 09:14 AM)I DIDNT KILL MY WIFE Wrote:  

Anyone heard of this? Need a confirm/deny

That was last year in autumn as part of the natioal holiday which is more a patriotic day, but they used it also to demonstrate against the Muslim immigrants with the slogan: "Chcemy kotleta a nie Mahometa"
"We want steak instead of Mohammed" - it rhymes in Polish. It may have been one of the biggest demonstrations indeed. The Polish media downplayed the numbers and their slogans.

But don't be amazed. When 500.000 people demonstrated in Portugal (a huge portion of the population) against austerity, the world media was silent. They certainly wouldn't want 50 mio. Americans getting ideas. Besides - demonstrations without threat of violence of some sort mean nothing to the elite.

An example of the traitor`s foot soldiers the Germans will have to fight:





I wonder how much time those Die Linke goons would have lasted in the DDR.

If we want to be rigorous, only a smart part of Europe is asleep. But it happens to be the most influential part.

For those who aren't familiar with him, Mark Steyn is a total genius when it comes to clearly expressing the perversion of the western world at the hands of lobotomized multicultural zombies.

He's written multiple books on the subject, including America Alone: The End of the World as We Know It. He's already basically written off Europe completely.

His speeches on youtube are great.

Welcome to Poland

(03-24-2016 10:24 AM)Mekorig Wrote:  An example of the traitor`s foot soldiers the Germans will have to fight:





I wonder how much time those Die Linke goons would have lasted in the DDR.

The girl at 1:17 screams, its my body - my choice. Well honey you are not the type men stand in a line for.

This is the real enemy.



This bitch is either an idiot or thinks that we are idiots for not knowing our history and identity.

The cultural basis for Western Europe and by extension Western Civilization is the Latin heritage of Rome, the German warrior culture, and Christianity.

Islam has never been part of Europe and for much of its existence has posed a threat to Western Europe.

The EU bureaucrats and technocrats like herself as well as the other cultural marxist politicians such as Merkel should be tried for treason and hanged for igniting a civil war and possibly destroying Europe.

(03-24-2016 01:05 PM)quino_16 Wrote:  This bitch is either an idiot or thinks that we are idiots for not knowing our history and identity.

It's the former. The blame for this whole mess rests squarely on the shoulders of European women voters. And they're putting the fire out with gasoline.