(03-21-2016 11:53 AM)Requiem Wrote:  Enriching.

That piece of shit murdered innocent Norwegians and has no business in this discussion.

(03-21-2016 10:50 AM)Samseau Wrote:  I'm very happy I got to see Paris when it was still White.

I lived in London from 2004-2006 and made sure to go to Paris at least once a year. The difference, even in those three years, was so striking that I commented on it to everyone I knew. They thought I was crazy. After my last visit in 2006, I said "it's not going to feel very safe wandering around certain central areas anymore" (north/right of the Seine seemed worse).

(03-21-2016 01:41 PM)RIslander Wrote:  That piece of shit murdered innocent Norwegians and has no business in this discussion.

It's a meme! It's supposed to be funny, not glorify him or whatever you're thinking that you're offended by. His rampage was topic-related and so was the text of the meme, so the picture does have business in this discussion.

Is he an insane psycho? Sure. But I come from /pol/ where the humor is a bit darker than average so excuse me for not being as sensitive about potentially triggering images as you might wish. To me, this picture is very tame compared to what else I could've posted.

(03-21-2016 01:41 PM)RIslander Wrote:  That piece of shit murdered innocent Norwegians and has no business in this discussion.

Every single person on this island was a leftist who supported policies leading to the effective genocide of the European people.

There were no innocent people there.

Brexit should be supported as much as possible. If UK decides to leave the EU, the drapery will eventually finally fall down and the next thing we will hear about is "Frexit" and the much anticipiated collapse is reality.

Brexit could be our century's Sarajevo Shots.

Tell me what the precedent Europe has set in terms of migrant policy means for the continent with regards to the following projection:



I see a number of scenarios:

• The creation of apartheid and ethnostates within EU countries, gated and guarded residentials between the madness
• Full on civil and race wars
• Immigration of native whites to safer countries, which would at that point include Eastern Europe
• A dramatic fall in white nativity relative to total world nativity, before a rise of 'racist' tribes spark an increase of white fertility
• Curfews, no-go zones outnumbering safe areas, low economic growth
  

(03-21-2016 04:24 PM)johnfortunebg Wrote:  Every single person on this island was a leftist who supported policies leading to the effective genocide of the European people.

There were no innocent people there.

What's your deal, mate? You do realize he shot teenagers there, do you?

You know what else would lead to the effective genocide of the European people? Shooting every leftist. You want to save the European people and excuse psychos who... KILL Europeans? [Autism intensifies]

Quote:What's your deal, mate? You do realize he shot teenagers there, do you?

And? Their age does not matter - it is irrelevant. You can continue mourning your enemies. That's a shining example of evolutionary irrationality.

Quote:You know what else would lead to the effective genocide of the European people? Shooting every leftist.

Executing all leftsts at this very moments raises the probability of preserving ethnic Europeans by a factor of 10, at least.

Quote:You want to save the European people and excuse psychos who... KILL Europeans?

Actually, I don't want to save all European people. Only those who share my values. Leftists do not fall under this umbrella.

Nobody is innocent, everyone stand on a side, by choice or faith. Conscious of or unconsciously. Is Anders Breivik a madman? Sure. But in his world, where he face the danger out a cultural invasion and the erase of his own culture by cultural marxist, he did chose to take action.
He did not just kill citizens, he chose them with intention. Government workers and young people that went to a left wing political party camp. Did those people deserve to die? I don't think so. But had they be innocent? No. And mostly they had not be innocent in the terms of war where Breivik think we live in.

Anders Breivik took the resistance to its most radical form. The enemy is not the one at the gates. Not the millions that want to storm Europe to get a piece of the fat and creamy cake. They are a threat. The bigger danger is, the ones that open the gates. Put the guards off duty. I don't justify the rampage of Breivik, but how far would each of us go to fight for the European heritage? I did read the Turner Diaries, its some kind of white power crap. There is one part where they hang a women for be a race traitor. And she scream why they don't hang Lindy as well, she did sleep also with the black guy. And the main character say, we don't need to hang all, but those that we did not hang have to be extra aware now.
Think like this is an extreme mindset.

I do not support those race bullshit or white power or extreme nationalist stuff. Everyone that share our values, want to escape Islamic terror and accept our rules is welcome. Culture is more important then skin colour. Ideas become more important then race. But we face this issues since decades and it don't seem to stop. When we look back in history, only a few terror attacks did win. Many did even make the system stronger. So the question is, how we fight and whom? Is killing kids, even left wing ones the answer? I hope not.

(03-21-2016 05:30 PM)Parzival Wrote:  Nobody is innocent, everyone stand on a side, by choice or faith. Conscious of or unconsciously. Is Anders Breivik a madman? Sure. But in his world, where he face the danger out a cultural invasion and the erase of his own culture by cultural marxist, he did chose to take action.
He did not just kill citizens, he chose them with intention. Government workers and young people that went to a left wing political party camp. Did those people deserve to die? I don't think so. But had they be innocent? No. And mostly they had not be innocent in the terms of war where Breivik think we live in.

Anders Breivik took the resistance to its most radical form. The enemy is not the one at the gates. Not the millions that want to storm Europe to get a piece of the fat and creamy cake. They are a threat. The bigger danger is, the ones that open the gates. Put the guards off duty. I don't justify the rampage of Breivik, but how far would each of us go to fight for the European heritage? I did read the Turner Diaries, its some kind of white power crap. There is one part where they hang a women for be a race traitor. And she scream why they don't hang Lindy as well, she did sleep also with the black guy. And the main character say, we don't need to hang all, but those that we did not hang have to be extra aware now.
Think like this is an extreme mindset.

I do not support those race bullshit or white power or extreme nationalist stuff. Everyone that share our values, want to escape Islamic terror and accept our rules is welcome. Culture is more important then skin colour. Ideas become more important then race. But we face this issues since decades and it don't seem to stop. When we look back in history, only a few terror attacks did win. Many did even make the system stronger. So the question is, how we fight and whom? Is killing kids, even left wing ones the answer? I hope not.

I couldn't agree more and I'm actually surprised to see Parzival make this point as he's proven to be very level headed and collected throughout this thread. But it all boils down to this: The left is ACTIVELY engaged in importing inferior genes into our populations - they are hellbent on destroying white European Christian culture. Not sure if you guys caught this piece of news: Austrian green party members were arrested after being caught helping migrants cross a river and passing out maps on how to get into Germany:

https://translate.google.com/translate?h...ory-500851

In my mind these fuckers are race traitors and if they would fall over dead tomorrow I would not shed a single tear - to put it mildly.

You guys have to wrap your mind around the fact that we are surrounded by traitors. They are not just condoning the Islamification of Germany/Europe, no they are actively aiding and abetting the process. They need to be stopped by any/all means available. Whether or not that includes inflicting harm on them is your personal decision and I will refrain from making a statement to that effect.

If Islam succeeds in overrunning Europe then the death of a few teenagers will pale in comparison with the cruelties we all will witness and perhaps have to endure ourselves. Already our women and children are being attacked and raped - and Muslims only represent less than 10% of the German population. Imagine once that number hits 20% or 30% or more. Terrorism, violent attacks, crime, and public disorder in general will grow exponentially.

What is your plan to prevent that scenario? This is not a rhetorical question - I really would like to know? Kindly ask all those migrants to leave? What do you think what will happen when they realize that the free ride is over? In about a year or two from now? How much mercy will they show your daughter, girlfriend, wife, child, mother, grandmother, etc. if they are unlucky enough to face a pack of cultural enrichers in a dark alley?

Ask yourself these questions and then tell me what your plan is. And what you are doing to prevent the destruction of your country and your cultural heritage. Realize that Islam is following a very precise and established growth pattern. And they are not exactly known to be merciful or subtle about subjugating a population.

To start, the meme is neither humorous or 'triggering'. It just doesn't belong here. RVF is supposed to rational discussion, not whether some gunman is justified in saying "I told you so".

In regards to the victims... when you were 14-18, did you have a strong grasp on what was best for your countrymen or did you just do as you were told by you parents and teachers? If you were like most children, you didn't learn to think for yourself until you were an adult. His victims were mainly children and anyone who slaughters unarmed children to make a political point deserves to be buried alive along with his voice.

This thread is starting to go from objective information and an interesting read into lunacy. If you believe that leftest politicians should be removed from power and prosecuted, then I agree with you. If you think borders should be closed until a rational legal immigration policy can be implemented, I also agree. The situation in Europe is extremely dire and if it leads to civil war, well the European politicians and their supporters brought it on themselves. However, if you think a madman shooting aimlessly shooting people whom he regards as 'leftists' propagates this cause then I suggest you keep that opinion to yourself. That's the policy in the home countries of the current invaders, not a sane society.

The reason I'm writing this post is because RVF is no longer an underground forum. There are nearly 20,000 members. Currently 150 members online and 4x as many guests. Suggesting that Brevik was the slightest bit justified for his crimes is not conducive to enhancing this discussion and certainly paints our community in a bad light.

(03-20-2016 10:51 PM)Emancipator Wrote:  Wasn't South Africa an economic power house post WWII-1980? Such a shame to see it in today's state.
At least they dismantled their nukes before the end of apartheid. I shudder at the thought of the current government with nukes

A large chunk of doctors here in my location are Boers from South Africa, sound no nonsense doctors

I wouldn't say it was a powerhouse but it did well based off of commodities. S.A. suffers from the commodities curse where they have loads of natural resources but most of the wealth is tapped by an elite class and the rest of the population lives in squalor except for cities like Cape Town which is essentially a massive gated community if you think about it.

Also, in a way apartheid never really ended in South Africa they just swapped the race in charge.

I don't know what else to do to convince some of the libtards on my facebook that Syrian refugees have, in fact, been complicit in and also guilty of some abhorrent crimes including rape and sexual assault all over Europe since countries like Germany openits borders to migrants. They just refuse to believe it and I'm done trying to show them that the sky is blue.

(03-21-2016 08:16 PM)eskimobobseal Wrote:  I don't know what else to do to convince some of the libtards on my facebook that Syrian refugees have, in fact, been complicit in and also guilty of some abhorrent crimes including rape and sexual assault all over Europe since countries like Germany openits borders to migrants. They just refuse to believe it and I'm done trying to show them that the sky is blue.

I doubt genuine Syrian refugees committed many rapes in Europe.

But, on the other hand, I don't doubt (having proofs in several media) that sub-saharan (Nigerians, Guineans, Malians) migrants posing as Sudanese refugees, and Algerians and Morrocans and Egyptians posing as Syrian refugees, committed many, many rapes and crimes.

The words Syrians and refugees have been stolen, misused and sullied by the worse trash of Earth which is illegally pouring into Europe...

Quote:How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property - either as a child, a wife, or a concubine - must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen: all know how to die: but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome.

-- Winston Churchill in The River War (1899)

(03-21-2016 07:17 PM)RIslander Wrote:  The reason I'm writing this post is because RVF is no longer an underground forum. There are nearly 20,000 members. Currently 150 members online and 4x as many guests. Suggesting that Brevik was the slightest bit justified for his crimes is not conducive to enhancing this discussion and certainly paints our community in a bad light.

With respect, tone policing doesn't have any space in civilized society.

(03-21-2016 07:17 PM)RIslander Wrote:  The reason I'm writing this post is because RVF is no longer an underground forum. There are nearly 20,000 members. Currently 150 members online and 4x as many guests. Suggesting that Brevik was the slightest bit justified for his crimes is not conducive to enhancing this discussion and certainly paints our community in a bad light.

As opposed to the wonderful light we are painted in now?

Get real, man.

Contriving incoherent and fallacious excuses for an insane scumbag looks bad in any light, but the appearance of this position isn't finally the problem, the problem is that it's just wrong. We must pursue truth...and the truth is that the politically-motivated murder of a defenseless group of people is an act of abject barbarity, lunacy, immorality, cruelty and mindlessness.

And spare me the Bolshevik-Jacobin-style "no innocent people" rhetoric. I've read enough history to know where that fetid path leads, and enough political writing to recognize the myopia and allergy to nuance that abounds in the heads of those who harbor it. Desperate times call not for this but for lucid minds and firm ethics...and if those who wish to defend western civilization shred every last link they have to that civilization in the process, then their wish will be a self-defeating one.

Lastly, and somewhat tangentially, the phrase "race traitor" is quite nonsensical. People have obligations towards their family, community, church, country...not towards their race. The idea would have been laughed out of the Roman Empire, Outremer and Viking Iceland. There simply is no substance to it.

(03-21-2016 11:16 PM)Saga Wrote:  Lastly, and somewhat tangentially, the phrase "race traitor" is quite nonsensical. People have obligations towards their family, community, church, country...not towards their race. The idea would have been laughed out of the Roman Empire, Outremer and Viking Iceland. There simply is no substance to it.

Quite the opposite, my friend: The idea of not defending your own race would have been considered unthinkable and sinful in 99% of past World civilizations.

As to Roman-Empire citizens not being racists, lol: they were even racists against blonde, long-haired Gaulois (Gaulish), on our own soil (France)...

(03-21-2016 11:26 PM)Going strong Wrote:  Quite the opposite, my friend: The idea of not defending your own race would have been considered unthinkable and sinful in 99% of past World civilizations.

As to Roman-Empire citizens not being racists, lol: they were even racists against blonde, long-haired Gaulois (Gaulish), on our own soil (France)...

I agree that all sane peoples seek to protect their own, but the question is how that is defined. Defending one's own nation, country or civilization is one thing...but defending "one's race" is another paradigm entirely, and your example shows precisely this point: the Romans didn't recognize the concept of unitary race (ie whiteness) because they knew full well it had far more to do with familial lineage, traditions and culture than with mere skin tone. Thus, they saw the Gauls as fundamentally different, lesser and other on the basis of culture, custom and nationality...not race.

But we don't even need to go as far as Gaul for signs of the Roman division of the world, because we know that they long sustained distinctions between families descended primarily from Roman, Samnite or Etruscan origins (all coming from the same portion of Italy) while accepting the membership of each within Roman civil society. This is fundamentally incompatible with "race loyalty" and its absolutist political extrapolations.

Just as importantly, the Romans very often mixed with once-foreign ethnic groups, provided they accept and assimilate into Roman life. Is this "race treason"? Does it matter at all when it obviously didn't impede the greatness of Rome and the ascent of western civilization to new heights?

(03-21-2016 10:17 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  

(03-21-2016 07:17 PM)RIslander Wrote:  The reason I'm writing this post is because RVF is no longer an underground forum. There are nearly 20,000 members. Currently 150 members online and 4x as many guests. Suggesting that Brevik was the slightest bit justified for his crimes is not conducive to enhancing this discussion and certainly paints our community in a bad light.

As opposed to the wonderful light we are painted in now?

Get real, man.

Discussing banging girls, hating on fat chicks and voting Trump surely generates hate. Hell there are even some morons out there that think RVF is 'pro-rape' because they're too stupid to understand satire. I don't mind morons hating on us for that. What I don't want to see is men with a brain in their head finding their way to the forum just to get turned off by seeing members emphasizing with a mass murderer.

I'm not calling anyone out. I'm just saying that may be a topic better suited for PM's.

Quote:What I don't want to see is men with a brain in their head finding their way to the forum just to get turned off by seeing members emphasizing with a mass murderer.

I find this passage (not the rest of the post) quite well summarizing the rational views on Breivik:

Quote:Breivik wasn't a madman. He simply put into action on what many Norwegians were thinking and his murderous actions were a warning sign of what was to come if the current program of mass immigration was maintained.

Quote:Desperate times call not for this but for lucid minds and firm ethics

That passage is straight out of the cuckservative playbook. I can cleary imagine Rick Wilson or any NR peon reciting the very same sentance in only a slightly different context. By claiming that, you are essentially agreeing with the liberal program, doing nothing to stop it and just slowing it down (unsuccessfully, I might add). You see, this is why non-extremists always lose in the end.

Quote:and the truth is that the politically-motivated murder of a defenseless group of people is an act of abject barbarity, lunacy, immorality, cruelty and mindlessness.

Your morality and values have no actual basis in reality and are just subjective.
You know what is objective? Natural selection and evolutionary success. How has embracing your 'civilized' values worked out for Europeans so far in this department and how is it projected to work out in the future?
When your morality leads to evolutionary obscurity, that means your morality is an irrational piece of garbage.

Enrichment in brussels airport.
So far 11 persons were mortally enriched

(03-22-2016 02:32 AM)johnfortunebg Wrote:  

Quote:What I don't want to see is men with a brain in their head finding their way to the forum just to get turned off by seeing members emphasizing with a mass murderer.

I find this passage (not the rest of the post) quite well summarizing the rational views on Breivik:

Quote:Breivik wasn't a madman. He simply put into action on what many Norwegians were thinking and his murderous actions were a warning sign of what was to come if the current program of mass immigration was maintained.

Quote:Desperate times call not for this but for lucid minds and firm ethics

That passage is straight out of the cuckservative playbook. I can cleary imagine Rick Wilson or any NR peon reciting the very same sentance in only a slightly different context. By claiming that, you are essentially agreeing with the liberal program, doing nothing to stop it and just slowing it down (unsuccessfully, I might add). You see, this is why non-extremists always lose in the end.

Quote:and the truth is that the politically-motivated murder of a defenseless group of people is an act of abject barbarity, lunacy, immorality, cruelty and mindlessness.

Your morality and values have no actual basis in reality and are just subjective.
You know what is objective? Natural selection and evolutionary success. How has embracing your 'civilized' values worked out for Europeans so far in this department and how is it projected to work out in the future?
When your morality leads to evolutionary obscurity, that means your morality is an irrational piece of garbage.

Please demonstrate how Breivik's actions have positively affected your causes in the long run ("he killed some leftists" doesn't count -- at their rates of abortion they do a far better job when left to their own devices), and also explain how this is going to be more effective than achieving measurable personal success in business, engaging in rational discussion, and siring and raising traditional-minded children.

A lot of MSM outlets are yet to report the facts for this terrorist attack in Brussels.

- Happened to the American Airlines check-in
- Men were seen/heard shouting in Arabic prior to explosions

- Attack also at a Metro station

Sky News Metro link



Reuters link





Radical Christians are at it again.