(03-17-2016 10:33 PM)Teutatis Wrote:  You're kidding but I actually believe this will happen in a not so distant future. I truly think we will see several European groups migrating to the Iberian Peninsula in a few years.

I was thinking Syria might be a good place to move in a few years...

You might be right, at this rate it certainly looks like it will have no men left, only women. Might be a good idea.

(03-17-2016 03:57 PM)I DIDNT KILL MY WIFE Wrote:  https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/201...migration/

IT'S HAPPENING. EUROPA AWAKENS

I was surprised that the opposition was not stronger in Greece. Are they all super PC there or what?

Yep. Incredibly fucked-up country, even more torn with the left-right circus than Croatia. The Balkan peninsula is NEVER getting liberated. That's why all our hopes have turned to FN, SD, UKIP and of course Donald Trump.

All those little "single cases" how some people like to call them, are just the same all over Europe.

http://www.welt.de/vermischtes/article15...sehen.html

   

Quote:Amira B. claimed to have been insulted by a man. The problem: The Muslim veiled - and does not want to take off the veil in court.
According sobbing Amira B. enters the courtroom in Munich district court, her lawyer and an interpreter accompany them to the witness stand in the middle of the room. "Calm down," Judge Claudia Bauer says friendly. But again and again the 43-year-old wine cramps is shaken. Only after a few minutes it is possible the interpreter to reassure the fully veiled woman.

At the first hearing, the devout Muslim had refused on religious grounds to remove the veil. "I will not do that prohibits my faith," she had the judge replied. And despite insistent requests of the judge was stuck with it. The time had not insisted.

In the process, it looks into it for an alleged insult. A 59-year-old man is the veiled Amira B. at the train station near the main station, inter alia with the statements "You assholes" and "Your not belong here" insulting. In the first instance the Munich architect had been acquitted, the prosecutor filed an appeal.

The judge acts surprised. "We have yet to link you to the expertise of a Saudi Islamic scholars," she says. "It says that they must shed their veil before judicial institutions."

For the judge, but that is very quickly clear a veiled witness is not an option. Quietly but firmly she explains Amira B. on the fact that they would not do without it, to see her face. "I need your facial expressions to assess your statement can," she says. As Amira B. further refuses, the judge is clearer. "You are in a German court, before the German legal system applies. If you refuse further, you could face legal consequences."

In the courtroom in Munich, the judge wants to avoid such an escalation. You can Amira B. time to consult with their lawyer. You trying to convey. But it also makes clear that she wants the witness without veils. Finally, and after a few somewhat louder war of words, there is a compromise. The accused Wolfram R. turns around, so he can not see Amira example. The Muslim has therefore not asked, she insisted vehemently. "The man who attacked me, which can not see me."

The most disturbing thing, this women was born in Germany, live there for 43 years and then need a translator? How did she then understand she got insulted? Even more, an Islamic scholar proof her wrong, she even resist. Those people are fanatics. I don't want to think how this case would go in Berlin instead of Munich. We have such women that want to pick up their kids from school, but schools deny them access on the property because they don't know who picks up the kids.

Well I am all for other Europeans coming here, as long as they do not bring their cuisine. Sorry guys, but central and north european food compared to ours is.... well, not good at all. But we do need more people and new ideas to revitalize these two corrupt countries that's for sure. The weather is good, too. And the locals are friendly...well... mostly

(03-18-2016 06:59 AM)Parzival Wrote:  All those little "single cases" how some people like to call them, are just the same all over Europe.

Yeah those "isolated cases" - Einzelfall - are becoming pretty tongue-in-cheek term in Germany, just like "urban youth", "teen" etc. I don't remember if I mentioned it, but there's also a Einzelfall-Map ( https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer...GfjpzjOS1Q ) that looks like this:


All of them isolated cases of course with absolutely no pattern or connection to one another. Well, except the ethnicity

Meanwhile in the Swedish news. 50 refugee "children" gets invited to watch a hockey game.

   

Are they stupid, blind, or both? I don't understand how anyone could possibly believe that they're children!

^ The naiveté of the swede and of some Europeans knows no bounds. It's not much a matter of stupidity or blindness, they're legitimately clueless

Catalonia going full retard

This guy's videos are amazing.

My forefathers would be rolling in their graves if they could see what their country has become. I never thought I'd see the day where I'd almost be thankful to hear the words "Fourth Reich".

(03-18-2016 10:17 AM)rotekz Wrote:  This guy's videos are amazing.

I was just about to post this. Black Pigeon is definitely one to subscribe to. Apparently 2020 is the no going back point from the import of a new culture completely over running what was once Germany. Merkel dooming her own country through cultural genocide. Everyone here should definitely watch this.

delete.

Black Pigeon has been mentioned above, this video is AMAZING. Cultural Marxism explained in 20 minutes or so. VERY GOOD. It clarified many things I knew intuitively.

http://www.welt.de/newsticker/dpa_nt/inf...ilden.html

Quote:The head of the Federal, Holger Münch has warned of a new terror threat by law in Germany. There was a risk that breaking away from xenophobic protest movements groups that are determined to do whatever he told the editors Network Germany. Hence structures could to terrorism form and solidify. Around 80 percent of offenders who were under investigation for crimes against asylum accommodations were, not noticed until then by politically motivated crime.

The attacks on refugee camps on a rise, the last sentence is the most important one. I do not agree with attacks on sleeping people with the danger to kill them. Also not all attacks are from citizens that are against refugees, some are an insurance fraud or a refugee that set everything on fire because he is stupid or want to do a protest.

But the rise of attacks shows, the whole situation need a solution. I still believe when the state would act strict and not crazy, we could prevent further damage, even more we don't have to face violence or even death people. But at the moment, there is no solution. For this more people will go to extremes.

This just keeps getting worse and worse

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-03-18...C6-billion

EU, Turkey Strike Migrant Deal; Erdogan Gets €6 Billion

Turkey and the EU came back to the negotiating table on Thursday and Friday in Brussels in the latest installment of a long-running attempt to hammer out a deal that will help stem the flow of refugees into Europe.

Germany, Sweden, Austria, and a number of other countries are quite literally breaking under the pressure and everyone involved fears things could get far worse as winter turns to spring and the Balkan route thaws.

While the ceasefire and the hope of a political settlement to Syria’s five-year-old conflict may help, there are still scores of jihadist elements operating in the country and those who are inclined to be realistic know there’s no hope of anyone wanting to go back to there anytime soon.

Of course Turkey is the key corridor through which the asylum seekers pass on their way to Greece. Europe is keen on figuring out a way to work with Ankara to ameliorate the current situation in which scores of migrants have found themselves stuck in Idomeni as they desperately try to cross the Macedonian border and make their way north.

(migrants in Idomeni at the Greek border with Macedonia: NY Times)

The conditions Turkey requires for striking a deal have changed over time, but two things have been relatively constant: 1) money, 2) accelerated EU membership.

On Friday, EU leaders agreed upon a proposal to present to Turkish PM Ahmet Davutoglu. Generally speaking, it looks a lot like a proposal that took shape earlier this month. Here’s a summary from The New York Times:

Sending Migrants Back to Turkey From Greece
All migrants who travel to Greece from Turkey using irregular means after an agreement is reached will be returned to Turkey, in what the agreement calls “a temporary and extraordinary measure, which is necessary to end the human suffering and restore public order.”
A One-for-One Swap of Syrians
For each Syrian migrant returned to Turkey, the European Union will directly resettle another Syrian from Turkey, with priority given to Syrians who have not previously entered, or tried to enter, the European Union, up to a total of 72,000.
If that number is reached — as it almost certainly will be — a new round of negotiations will be held.
Stricter Controls of Turkey’s Borders
Turkey will take “all necessary measures” to prevent migrants from opening new sea or land routes to the European Union from Turkey in a measure aimed at assuaging concerns in Bulgaria that migrants will stream into the country.
Concessions for Turkey
The European Union will speed up the disbursement of the €3 billion it pledged in November, and provide another €3 billion by the end of 2018, once Turkey meets its commitments.
The European Union will waive most visa requirements for Turkish citizens by the end of June, provided that Turkey meets certain requirements.

According to an official familiar with the talks who spoke to WSJ, "Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu signed off on the agreement and all 28 European Union leaders were expected to endorse it in the coming hours."

The 1-for-1 swap (i.e. if you take a boat to Greece you get sent back, but if you don't you might be able to get in from Turkey) is meant to end people smuggling, but of course it won't. If you've read anything about Turkey lately you know that it's hardly safe and we're reasonably sure that accommodations will hardly be comfortable. The provision will also do nothing to assuage the likes of Viktor Orban in Hungary and Frauke Petry in Germany.

It's also entirely unclear how this will work from an administrative perspective.

"Practical and legal complications remain, as Greece would have to deploy thousands of staff on the islands to give every migrant the chance to file for asylum, organize interviews, set up decent housing conditions and organize returns to Turkey to make sure the program is in compliance with international refugee law," WSJ goes on to note, adding that "some EU leaders had worried about the start date of the agreement, saying it could create a renewed surge of migrants crossing into Greece in a bid to beat the cutoff date."

Make no mistake, what this will amount to is a free €3 billion (and possibly €6 billion) for Turkey, because there's simply no way that something as amorphous as this "deal" has any hope of stemming a people flow of that size.

Oh, and we forgot to mention, Turkey's EU membership bid will be hastened despite a Cypriot objection which means that Erdogan's autocracy will soon not only be a NATO member, but also part of the EU, which we assume will given Erdogan even more cover to carry out genocide against the Kurds.

And Brussels does all of this knowing full well it won't work. On that note, we close with a quote from Francois Hollande, who, after the Paris attacks, is perhaps a bit less sanguine than Merkel about the situation:

“Let’s not think that tomorrow, just because we have a deal with Turkey, we solved the refugee problem.”

I'm Turkish and I gotta say the EU leaders are pure cucks. How can you accept such a deal?

So... I thought the PM of Cyprus was planning on rejecting this thing?

So Abdeslam, the ring leader of the Paris attacks, has just been captured in Brussels.

Where in Brussels? In a suburb which had become a no-go zone.

How long has he been in this Muslim no-go zone hiding safely? Roughly four months.

What's a no-go zone? A Muslims and Sharia controlled neighborhood the police won't venture into.

Why are no-go zones an obvious problem? They're responsible for the harboring of terrorists involved in multiple attacks across Europe where extremism is fertilized.

And in watching Fox News right now, I'm finally seeing the acknowledgement of these no-go zones and one of the attractive correspondents rightly pointed out both the European and American media refuses to acknowledge the existence of them. Fox News previously, after broaching the topic after the Paris attacks actually came out and apologized four times.

Quote:Fox News apologized four times on-air Saturday for a factual error made last week by guest and "terrorism analyst" Steven Emerson, who claimed that many European cities have "no-go zones" where non-Muslims don't dare venture.

The claim sparked widespread outrage. Twitter users began using the sarcastic hashtag #FoxNewsFacts to make fun of the network, while United Kingdom Prime Minister David Cameron called Emerson a "complete idiot" for his assertion that Birmingham, England, is a city dominated by Muslims and that "non-Muslims just simply don't go in."

“There is no formal designation of these zones in [France or the United Kingdom] and no credible information to support the assertion there are specific areas in these countries that exclude individuals based solely on their religion," Fox Report anchor Julie Banderas said in one of the apologies on Saturday

Well that's complete bullshit.

And this is why Trump is so important. This globalization and agenda to push immigration is not just a leftist strategy, the right is part of it as well. The establishment as a whole wants it, hence why neither the left wing or right wing media will cover these no-go zones. And why won't they? As it's one of their worst nightmares, where all the fears of the worst parts of Islam come to a city and neighborhood near you, where Muslims not only refuse to assimilate but they turn western neighborhoods into Sharia practicing and Sharia enforced sectors where extremism is allowed to flourish and entry by non-Muslims, citizens and police alike is met with force, is met with the threat of violence.

And why should Americans care? Because they're starting to pop up here too.



Don't confront this and like parts of Europe, we get to a point where there's no turning back. We'd literally have to go door to door and deport entire neighborhoods, which won't happen.

http://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/artic...ommen.html

Quote:The EU and Turkey have agreed "unanimously" to a refugee pact. The reported peaks Minister Donald Tusk in Brussels on Friday after two days of deliberations.

The 28 EU leaders agreed according to diplomats, the Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu on a plan whereby arrived immigrants can be sent back to Turkey from this Sunday (20 March), in Greece.

- All "new irregular migrants" who translate from Turkey to Greece, should be returned.

- For every Syrian refugee among those people who are sent back to Turkey, to an already living in Turkey Syrians may move to Europe. However, this should only apply up to 72,000 Syrians. For refugees from other countries, nothing is agreed.

- Turkey is to do everything necessary to prevent new land and sea routes from Turkish territory to Europe.

- The planned relaxation of visa rules for Turks in the European Union is to be accelerated, with the aim to lift the visa requirements by the end of June. But Turkey must meet 72 requirements. The government in Ankara to ensure that this is done quickly.

- The EU promises the payment of three billion euros to speed aid to Syrian refugees in Turkey. If this money is spent appropriately, the EU is ready to pay again for up to three billion euros for the same purpose.

- The EU and Turkey want to prepare for the EU accession negotiations the opening of discussions on state budget and other finances to end of June. A total of 35 chapters on individual policy areas must be negotiated before Turkey could join the community. Completed is so far only one.

- The EU and Turkey should work together to improve the humanitarian conditions in Syria, since from there most of the refugees come. Background is the repeated demand of Ankara, the EU should support the creation of a protected area for refugees in Syria.

Against the project, there is one part concerns. Human rights organizations fear lump mass deportations. Reservations also have various Member States against the demanded Ankara end of the visa regime for Turkish citizens in June and the expansion of the EU accession negotiations.

"The EU sold the human rights of refugees to Turkey. In the border state of Greece now threaten pro forma process with subsequent mass incarceration and mass deportation," said the CEO of Pro-asylum, Günter Burkhardt.

Following the closure of the Balkan route towards Central Europe persevere in Greece now good 46,000 migrants. This was announced by the crisis team with the government in Athens. Around 12,000 of them held out in improvised camps of Idomeni on the Greek-Macedonian border. The Greek Interior Minister Panagiotis Kouroumblis likened the camp to the Nazi concentration camp in Dachau.

They made the deal. I'm curious what will happen now. If the invasion really slows down, Merkel will keep her power for sure. On the other hand, even when Merkel would go, who in Europe could be a strong leader like her? I mean she went crazy, she isolated Germany, put us at the edge. But she did not back down. How many other politicians could keep such a strong frame?
Merkel was many years the most stabilising factor in the EU, even when I disagree with a lot of her politics.

What I also notice, this invasion was something people needed. I mean we live our lives with no deeper struggle, no values, whats our culture? What we stand for? The people of Europe live in a big bubble and the whole situation create such a deep impact, it split Europe, it split Germany. Both sides loaded everything with a bigger then real image. Like the last battle of civilisation. On one side the no border people that think, they fight a fascist society. On the other hand, conservative people that think they fight for their freedom and European values. What had be before? It was pale, boring. Like the quote in fight club, a generation with a purpose. This whole situation made me feel very proud for all the Europeans that did stand up against the invasion. Maybe the invasion is solved but I don't think so. There are more people on the move. Migration is the biggest issue of our decade.

Where exactly is the "deal" part in this contract?

The EU gains absolutely zero jack shit from it as it'll be a 1:1 trade of refugees AND has to pay 6 billions for....... what exactly?

(03-17-2016 10:58 PM)hedonist Wrote:  

(03-17-2016 10:33 PM)Teutatis Wrote:  You're kidding but I actually believe this will happen in a not so distant future. I truly think we will see several European groups migrating to the Iberian Peninsula in a few years.

I was thinking Syria might be a good place to move in a few years...

Listen if you can handle the loud neighbors it's good.

The street festivals here always go off with a bang my friend.

That deal accomplishes nothing. The Muzzies who are sent to Turkey are replaced with Muzzies sent directly into Germany. That 72K quota will be filled in a week. Then Turkey will demand more in exchange for airlifting more Muzzies into Europe.

Basically Europe is bleeding out exponentially faster and faster. Just when you think things were already bad, something new comes along to defy all expectations. Absolutely pathetic Europe and most Germans are completely unaware of the problem facing them. This goes to show that a democracy cannot work in a culture unsuited for it.