Quote:Please demonstrate how Breivik's actions have positively affected your causes in the long run ("he killed some leftists" doesn't count -- at their rates of abortion they do a far better job when left to their own devices), and also explain how this is going to be more effective than achieving measurable personal success in business, engaging in rational discussion, and siring and raising traditional-minded children.

This 100%.

Even if we say that Breivik's actions were acceptable because no morals apply in this situation (which I don't agree with - but for the sake of argument)... he's still a retard who set back our cause by decades.

Quote:Please demonstrate how Breivik's actions have positively affected your causes in the long run

I regard Breivik as a personal example. His actions alone of course mean nothing. If they start happening every day, however, the end result will be state dissolution and seccession across Europe, on both ethnic and ideological basis.
A non-liberal, white ethnostate is at this point the only hope for survival of ethnic Europeans. There is no way to bring it about without using violence.

Quote:how this is going to be more effective than achieving measurable personal success in business, engaging in rational discussion, and siring and raising traditional-minded children.

Leftists don't care about rational discussion (people in general do not) - because otherwise they would not be leftists.
Success in business is irrelevant - it does not raise your genetic fitness in our current environment as wealthy people tend to have less kids.
Raising kids is of course the most viable measure but there is a trade off - when the environment becomes so hostile (as in South Africa) to make it close to impossible to provide normal living conditions for your children.

The fact that you continue to show compassion and empathy towards your enemies and their enablers at the very day when they have again killed your kin is striking in and of itself.

(03-22-2016 03:54 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

Quote:Please demonstrate how Breivik's actions have positively affected your causes in the long run ("he killed some leftists" doesn't count -- at their rates of abortion they do a far better job when left to their own devices), and also explain how this is going to be more effective than achieving measurable personal success in business, engaging in rational discussion, and siring and raising traditional-minded children.

This 100%.

Even if we say that Breivik's actions were acceptable because no morals apply in this situation (which I don't agree with - but for the sake of argument)... he's still a retard who set back our cause by decades.

Don't think he was a retard: he was on drugs and manipulated by some foreign intelligence service(s)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...gated.html

Quote:Seven-year-old girl is gang-raped at an asylum centre in Germany as ‘five Arabic men’ are investigated

-The incident allegedly happened in Hamburg where the girl was staying
-Police called after report the seven-year-old was gang raped by five men
-Investigation launched after girl targeted whilst living at an asylum centre

Phew man, that's enough rapefugee news for me today

I don't agree with the therm race traitor. Its not a race war or conflict. Its a cultural one. And shooting teens don't solve anything even when they are seen as enemies. The fish starts to smell from the head. What we face is a lack of strength. Our values that we held up high also weaken us. I don't say abandon them. For our values we can not become like them. Whats the proof at the end? Whats the price we will pay? We stand for something that is different to them. Are we weak? Yes. Are we soft? Did we lost to make a stand? We have to see a difference, how to trait people in the inside and the outside. This can mean a two class law. We can be tolerant and liberal in the inside. But we need a clear definition what is ours, what we can take and what not. And if there is something we can't take, we have to punish it, fight it. Stand strong against it.

In the west, the laws, police and punishment for western people works. But for many of them it’s a joke. They are brute. We have to ask ourselves how do we deal with those outside invaders? Even more, how do we deal with the wrong tolerance? Tolerance, individual freedom, the freedom of believe. Those things set us apart from them. But when we show tolerance in the wrong way, we all know what we get.

We need a code civil. The purpose has to safe the own culture. Sure we can accept new things, improve. This task need a regular check and if someone cross the line, we need to be strict. When our sanctions, our justice system do not work on those people anymore. We need to isolate them. Build camps and wall and just put them inside those camps. Social outcast. This is also for people that show to much wrong tolerance by support cultural invasion.

"Tolerance becomes a crime when it is applied to evil" - Thomas Mann

(03-22-2016 03:52 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  A lot of MSM outlets are yet to report the facts for this terrorist attack in Brussels.

- Happened to the American Airlines check-in
- Men were seen/heard shouting in Arabic prior to explosions

- Attack also at a Metro station

Sky News Metro link



Reuters link


Radical Christians are at it again.

Has Hitlery or Obola held a press conference yet to blame this on Trump's inflammatory rhetoric?

On an Australian news report they are saying the first blast was an American Airlines, and the second was at a Starbucks in the same terminal.

Anders Behring Breivik would be like a Polish man who wandered into Germany in 1935 and started shooting Nazi party supporters.

Even with the benefit of hindsight he'd still be viewed as a loon who jumped the gun and cost his team any sort of moral high ground.

Stefan Molyneux did an interesting phone interview with a caller from Germany recently...





Stef does a great job of pointing out that the blame for this crisis rests squarely on the shoulders of women voters. This is the real danger of women's suffrage and why the new insult "cuck" resonates so powerfully and outrages those who are branded as cucks... because the truth fucking hurts. It hurts bad.

Women shouldn't vote. This is clear now. Actually the best and most reasonable and logical argument I have heard for this truth comes from a woman: Karen Straughan, and I first heard her make it in a debate with Cenk Uygur...





Karen does a great job of shutting down cuck Uygur when she takes the masculine high ground on the miserable pathetic fat little cuck when she argues that the right to vote has historically been linked to eligibility for the military draft. This is absolutely fucking brilliant.

I was driving my teenage daughter home from school the other day and her best friend was also in the car. I mentioned Karen's argument to see their reactions. They were, of course, outraged at my suggestion that women shouldn't vote. Now my daughter's best friend didn't seem too bothered by it, but my daughter was angry because I have instilled some extreme right-wing views in her and she rightly sees herself as a force for good as a voter, particularly in communist Canuckistan where we currently reside. So I calmly explained to her that, under my proposal for voting rights being linked to draft eligibility, women could still CLAIM the right to vote... a woman could go to a recruiting centre, file an application, pass some aptitude tests, and swear to be willing to answer the call if drafted, and then be granted the right to vote. After I said that, my daughter exclaimed, "Ew! I don't wanna get drafted!" I just grinned an evil grin and my daughter's best friend started giggling from the back seat. Thought experiment completed. Hypothesis proven. Daughter made very grumpy, but got over it.

Stef's point is not trivial. When you look at the pro-migrant protests... it is always women (maybe a few cucks here and there... they count as women). Merkel is the poster child for this argument. Women caused this problem and they continue to put the fire out with gasoline.

Never should've let 'em vote. NEVER.

There's no point in arguing about whether or not women should vote because we all know what the answer should be. Our grandparents fuck up and let them ate the fucking apple version 2, now we are left to deal with it, so deal with it.

Besides, I don't think we need to say "this will change nothing, the liberals/cucks/women/feminists will never wake up" etc. I've come to see this in a new light. The current trends of events is good.

The traitorous groups above plaguing Europe do not need to wake up or do anything. They have long become a powerless, irrelevant group in the grand scheme of history. Historically, biologically, they have no meaning left in this world. They constituted the dying part of a dying civilisation, and will fade out or die out as the decline goes on. Things will escalate and they will be the first casualties, for they are the most ill equipped to deal with it. They are also the ones who renounces their cultural heritage the most, hating themselves as much as their own culture. Having no cultural/national identity, no productivity, no rational sense, they are irrelevant.

But there will be patriotic people who survive, whether on Europe or on foreign soils, and it is they who will conserve the seed of European culture to plant it anew.

Right now because Samseau been right on everything, I think I might bite into his prediction that there will be civil war, because things will keep escalating until shit blows up (Fuck it the man said there will be an attack every 3-4 months and its been exactly 4 months since the last)

And when it does? You have two groups: patriotic, fierce and independent people fighting for their lives/family/country vs a mangled horde of undisciplined Arabs fighting on foreign soils, backed with help from women and effeminate manginas. Who will win?

It will be bloody but I think "true" European tenacity will triumph, even outnumbered 10:1 (look at Vietnam/Afghan/Algeria etc) and when the smoke clear, you can expect a massive purge of the old cancer.

Redpill countries didn't become so because they drink Starbucks and had free wifi. They suffered countless foreign invasions, colonization and brutal regimes. Now their people are fiercely proud, nationalistic and wary of other races. Europe hasn't suffered a foreign invasion for too long, this crisis is what it needs to purge itself of the cancer that is liberalism.

Conservative people have more kids in general. Look at Frauke Petry and compare her to Merkel or the leaders of the Greens, Clauda Roth. Also in the US, conservative people have more kids. So without the cultural invasion the whole left wing SJW stuff would die out because those people in general don't reproduce. The game changer is the cultural invasion of the immigrants that out breath even the few conservatives with many kids.

For the elites its more easy and cheaper to bring in new people where they think they just can re program them for their work tasks. For them all people are the same. Culture and values don't matter. Its quite naive, because you cant re write a human like you do it with a computer program. My civil war preparation is also ongoing. I'm glad that my state is more safe, to I will get hit by the later shock waves. The major cities in other states will burn more soon. Still I'm quite surprised that even in Berlin, with all the issues there is not more trouble going on.

(03-22-2016 11:15 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  Europe hasn't suffered a foreign invasion for too long, this crisis is what it needs to purge itself of the cancer that is liberalism.

Great post. Love your optimism! However, in the aftermath, when we're rebuilding civilization from the ashes, let's NOT let 'em vote, mmmmmkay? Just sayin'.

(03-22-2016 12:39 PM)Ghost Tiger Wrote:  

(03-22-2016 11:15 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  Europe hasn't suffered a foreign invasion for too long, this crisis is what it needs to purge itself of the cancer that is liberalism.

Great post. Love your optimism! However, in the aftermath, when we're rebuilding civilization from the ashes, let's NOT let 'em vote, mmmmmkay? Just sayin'.

Too late to change my post, but assuming war broke out and we dont nuke other or whatever to death, there is no fucking way any trace of liberalism will be left. I wouldnt say Im optimist because wars are fucking brutal. Speaking as a Vietnamese whose 3 uncles went to war. The patriotic europeans will be hunted, persecuted, forced to survive through hell because we all know how bad the odds are against them. They might have to hide in the sewers, eat rat meat, see their families raped and killed. And no there will be no female sergeants/squad leaders/lara croft types like in the movies. There will be mostly men doing the fighting and the few women in supporting roles.

When the smoke clears, you think those people who were betrayed and went through hell would have any compassion left for anything remotely liberal? It will be like the Soviet raping and killing Germans post-wars. The leaders, inevitably men, will be cool headed enough not to give women some power roles. Look at Russia/Vietnam/Afghan and count how many women in power?

Quote:The game changer is the cultural invasion of the immigrants that out breath even the few conservatives with many kids.

And thats the beauty of it. The elites think they can really import thousands of immigrants without it biting them in the ass? Its like feeding a snake from your own hands. Conflicts would break out and nobody will be able to control the chaos. In the end it always go down to us vs them.

(03-21-2016 11:42 PM)Saga Wrote:  

(03-21-2016 11:26 PM)Going strong Wrote:  Quite the opposite, my friend: The idea of not defending your own race would have been considered unthinkable and sinful in 99% of past World civilizations.

As to Roman-Empire citizens not being racists, lol: they were even racists against blonde, long-haired Gaulois (Gaulish), on our own soil (France)...

I agree that all sane peoples seek to protect their own, but the question is how that is defined. Defending one's own nation, country or civilization is one thing...but defending "one's race" is another paradigm entirely, and your example shows precisely this point: the Romans didn't recognize the concept of unitary race (ie whiteness) because they knew full well it had far more to do with familial lineage, traditions and culture than with mere skin tone. Thus, they saw the Gauls as fundamentally different, lesser and other on the basis of culture, custom and nationality...not race.

But we don't even need to go as far as Gaul for signs of the Roman division of the world, because we know that they long sustained distinctions between families descended primarily from Roman, Samnite or Etruscan origins (all coming from the same portion of Italy) while accepting the membership of each within Roman civil society. This is fundamentally incompatible with "race loyalty" and its absolutist political extrapolations.

Just as importantly, the Romans very often mixed with once-foreign ethnic groups, provided they accept and assimilate into Roman life. Is this "race treason"? Does it matter at all when it obviously didn't impede the greatness of Rome and the ascent of western civilization to new heights?

I just wanted to step in for a moment;

Ancient Europeans most certainly did have a notion of race, and between Black and White people. The concept of race is not new contrary to what many modern ignorant academics tell you, it's just that people rarely talked about it back in the day because Whites used to be the most numerous people on the planet. Blacks and Asians were too remote and few for Whites to talk about them, they just usually lumped them into the barbarian category because it was convenient.

Regardless I have historical documents with EXPLICIT race realism dating back in 300 AD, I'm sure I could find more if I looked for them.

In Ancient Judaism, for example, it was a crime for a Jewish woman to marry outside of her race. So don't say the concept of race traitors never existed, it's been around for thousands of years.

Just wanted to set the record straight here.

Can't believe how stupid the EU is regarding Islam and how stupid so much of America is in denying the threat.

The attacks in Belgium obviously were a response to the Paris ringleader being arrested. The problem however is what a few have warned about. The attacks were launched from within the no-go zones in Belgium. These no-go zones are cells ready to ignite.

If folks have seen videos of what occurs in these no-go zones they understand these are Sharia and extremist controlled neighborhoods which police are too afraid to go into. Why are they afraid? The response they'll get. Safety issues. And now we're once again seeing why that is. It's not just personal safety of the police trying to make an arrest or enforce the laws on the books, it's the greater threat that you risk pissing off an entire no-go zone which has sleeper terrorists within, and they'll respond with terror attacks.

The foundation for a civil war is laid. Ushering these Muslims into your countries and allowing Sharia controlled no-go zones necessitates terror to come from within. It's an attack from within. Many are EU citizens getting schooled in Jihad from within.

The greatest problem at large is that countries will not be able to rid themselves of terrorists within their own no-go zones without attacks on its own citizens being the response. Governments won't pay for this, it's the average men, women and children who'll pay for this.

As if women getting raped by packs of refugee wolves isn't enough. Down the road when EU states try to correct the problem the citizens of their countries are going to get blown up.

Disgraceful.

Brussels this morning. London tomorrow (probably) Luckily I live in Poland where there is fuck-all worth bombing.

But seriously. where is next?!

(03-22-2016 02:17 PM)spalex Wrote:  Brussels this morning. London tomorrow (probably) Luckily I live in Poland where there is fuck-all worth bombing.

But seriously. where is next?!

It's any country with a refugee problem and let in a bunch of Muslims.

England
Germany
France
Norway
Sweden
Finland

Take your pick. All these countries have numerous Sharia controlled no-go zones which fertilize extremism.

The safest countries are those who decided against taking in a bunch of refugees and have a more nationalistic attitude, essentially Central and Eastern Europe.

(03-22-2016 02:22 PM)rainy Wrote:  

(03-22-2016 02:17 PM)spalex Wrote:  Brussels this morning. London tomorrow (probably) Luckily I live in Poland where there is fuck-all worth bombing.

But seriously. where is next?!

It's any country with a refugee problem and let in a bunch of Muslims.

England
Germany
France
Norway
Sweden
Finland

Take your pick. All these countries have numerous Sharia controlled no-go zones which fertilize extremism.

The safest countries are those who decided against taking in a bunch of refugees and have a more nationalistic attitude, essentially Central and Eastern Europe.

Don´t speak on things you don´t know about. Belgium has no no-go zones, and there are no sharia controlled areas, not even Molenbeek. These areas are conducive to extremism agreed, but there are still more dangerous areas in the big US cities (for taking a walk at night) and in any place in the countries you mentioned police will still intervene. The only place where I have my doubts are some of the banlieus from Paris, that would be the worst Western Europe has to offer in this regard.

The problem on the local level lies in the very bad policing work done, lack of prevention, lack of social control, etc. not in the complete absence of police.

Let´s keep the discussion as factual as possible.

(03-22-2016 02:45 PM)rottenapple Wrote:  

(03-22-2016 02:22 PM)rainy Wrote:  

(03-22-2016 02:17 PM)spalex Wrote:  Brussels this morning. London tomorrow (probably) Luckily I live in Poland where there is fuck-all worth bombing.

But seriously. where is next?!

It's any country with a refugee problem and let in a bunch of Muslims.

England
Germany
France
Norway
Sweden
Finland

Take your pick. All these countries have numerous Sharia controlled no-go zones which fertilize extremism.

The safest countries are those who decided against taking in a bunch of refugees and have a more nationalistic attitude, essentially Central and Eastern Europe.

Don´t speak on things you don´t know about. Belgium has no no-go zones, and there are no sharia controlled areas, not even Molenbeek. These areas are conducive to extremism agreed, but there are still more dangerous areas in the big US cities (for taking a walk at night) and in any place in the countries you mentioned police will still intervene.

There are posted vids in this thread of policemen running away from reporters getting attacked by Muslims, and you think these areas are safer than US cities where people carry guns in self-defense?

I've never stop laughing at Euronoobs, ignorance is bliss eh?

Rotherham is also unimaginable in any US city except LA (run by the worst Latino gangs).

Conservative people generally have more kids in the USA also. Look at the Mormons in Utah. The problem is most religious circles nonetheless do a poor job of encouraging marriage/children and pairing off people of their own congregations. Take for example evangelicals, for years they've crusaded against gay marriage all while throwing their own masses a proverbial bone with rhetoric about "I kissed dating goodbye" and other nonsense. Catholics have also done a terrible job of ministering to their own and helping people sprout relationships/families and stronger communities. I think it will take an even bigger kick in the face, probably in the form of erosion of religious liberties, to get Christian churches in America to wake up and get sharp.

^^^ If you are aware of any Sharia controlled no-go zones here in Finland then please enlight me where they are?

We had the talk about no go zones before. Its not like you cant walk in or don't get out alive. But you will face problems. Robbery, violence, harassment. Event he police has to show up with strong force, get attacks and so on. If you are lucky and are at the right time, nothing will happen to you, when you are at the wrong time there, you have to worry. Also, we are not just talking about refugees. In those areas are no refugees. There are 2nd and 3th generation immigrants. What going on below the surface is mostly deeper then most people can imagine.
Don't put all the blame on the refugees, those terrorist are EU citizens with migrant origin. The so called refugees just import more of the social problems. Even more sexual harassment then we had to face with the immigrants before. They did a lot of cat calling but never as bad as the new arrived arabs or sub sahara africans.

Its a joke when left wing people call you are racist, intolerant or whatever. I never did hear someone complain about Chinese or vietnames immigrants. They have also a different cultural background, but well the issues are mostly with people from a muslim background. In the 90s we did face many problems with polish and russian people as well. Also from the Balkan states. We still have issues with Balkan people and criminal gangs from eastern europe. But they are "normal" criminals so far, those 3th world immigrants are quite a different level.

(03-22-2016 02:45 PM)rottenapple Wrote:  

(03-22-2016 02:22 PM)rainy Wrote:  

(03-22-2016 02:17 PM)spalex Wrote:  Brussels this morning. London tomorrow (probably) Luckily I live in Poland where there is fuck-all worth bombing.

But seriously. where is next?!

It's any country with a refugee problem and let in a bunch of Muslims.

England
Germany
France
Norway
Sweden
Finland

Take your pick. All these countries have numerous Sharia controlled no-go zones which fertilize extremism.

The safest countries are those who decided against taking in a bunch of refugees and have a more nationalistic attitude, essentially Central and Eastern Europe.

Don´t speak on things you don´t know about.

I have not. Your stance flies in the face of reality.

England:

Quote:The Islamic Emirates Project names the British cities of Birmingham, Bradford, Derby, Dewsbury, Leeds, Leicester, Liverpool, Luton, Manchester, Sheffield, as well as Waltham Forest in northeast London and Tower Hamlets in East London as territories to be targeted for blanket Sharia rule.

In the Tower Hamlets area of East London (also known as the Islamic Republic of Tower Hamlets), for example, extremist Muslim preachers, called the Tower Hamlets Taliban, regularly issue death threats to women who refuse to wear Islamic veils. Neighborhood streets have been plastered with posters declaring "You are entering a Sharia controlled zone: Islamic rules enforced." And street advertising deemed offensive to Muslims is regularly vandalized or blacked out with spray paint.

In the Bury Park area of Luton, Muslims have been accused of "ethnic cleansing" by harassing non-Muslims to the point that many of them move out of Muslim neighborhoods. In the West Midlands, two Christian preachers have been accused of "hate crimes" for handing out gospel leaflets in a predominantly Muslim area of Birmingham. In Leytonstone in east London, the Muslim extremist Abu Izzadeen heckled the former Home Secretary John Reid by saying: "How dare you come to a Muslim area."

France

Quote:In France, large swaths of Muslim neighborhoods are now considered "no-go" zones by French police. At last count, there are 751 Sensitive Urban Zones (Zones Urbaines Sensibles, ZUS), as they are euphemistically called. A complete list of the ZUS can be found on a French government website, complete with satellite maps and precise street demarcations. An estimated 5 million Muslims live in the ZUS, parts of France over which the French state has lost control.

Muslim immigrants are taking control of other parts of France too. In Paris and other French cities with high Muslim populations, such as Lyons, Marseilles and Toulouse, thousands of Muslims are closing off streets and sidewalks (and by extension, are closing down local businesses and trapping non-Muslim residents in their homes and offices) to accommodate overflowing crowds for Friday prayers. Some mosques have also begun broadcasting sermons and chants of "Allahu Akbar" via loudspeakers into the streets.

Belgium

Quote:In the Belgian capital of Brussels (which is 20% Muslim), several immigrant neighborhoods have become "no-go" zones for police officers, who frequently are pelted with rocks by Muslim youth. In the Kuregem district of Brussels, which often resembles an urban war zone, police are forced to patrol the area with two police cars: one car to carry out the patrols and another car to prevent the first car from being attacked. In the Molenbeek district of Brussels, police have been ordered not to drink coffee or eat a sandwich in public during the Islamic month of Ramadan.

Netherlands

Quote:In the Netherlands, a Dutch court ordered the government to release to the public a politically incorrect list of 40 "no-go" zones in Holland. The top five Muslim problem neighborhoods are in Amsterdam, Rotterdam and Utrecht. The Kolenkit area in Amsterdam is the number one Muslim "problem district" in the country. The next three districts are in Rotterdam – Pendrecht, het Oude Noorden and Bloemhof. The Ondiep district in Utrecht is in the fifth position, followed by Rivierenwijk (Deventer), Spangen (Rotterdam), Oude Westen (Rotterdam), Heechterp/ Schieringen (Leeuwarden) and Noord-Oost (Maastricht).

Sweden

Quote:In Sweden, which has some of the most liberal immigration laws in Europe, large swaths of the southern city of Malmö – which is more than 25% Muslim – are "no-go" zones for non-Muslims. Fire and emergency workers, for example, refuse to enter Malmö's mostly Muslim Rosengaard district without police escorts. The male unemployment rate in Rosengaard is estimated to be above 80%. When fire fighters attempted to put out a fire at Malmö's main mosque, they were attacked by stone throwers.

In the Swedish city of Gothenburg, Muslim youth have been hurling petrol bombs at police cars. In the city's Angered district, where more than 15 police cars have been destroyed, teenagers have also been pointing green lasers at the eyes of police officers, some of whom have been temporarily blinded.

In Gothenburg's Backa district, youth have been throwing stones at patrolling officers. Gothenburg police have also been struggling to deal with the problem of Muslim teenagers burning cars and attacking emergency services in several areas of the city.

According to the Malmö-based Imam Adly Abu Hajar: "Sweden is the best Islamic state."

More Sweden

Quote:The Swedish police recently released a map of 55 areas where they publicly admit to having surrendered control to the criminal gangs. These areas have long had problems with mailmen, fire trucks and ambulances being attacked when trying to enter, which has led to them routinely requesting police escort. Now it’s the police being attacked outright. A new trend is also to map out police homes and families to intimidate and discourage policework, police say.

These no-go zones are primarily so-called “exclusion areas” which is the politically correct term for the 186 ghettos that have sprung up around Sweden in the past two decades. These areas are predominantly populated by immigrants from muslim countries with low education and even lower employment rates. The exception being the enthusiastic entrepreneurs in the fields of drug dealing, protection rackets and robberies.

So please, a bit more respect to fellow members here would be appreciated.