@hwuz @Suits

(03-20-2016 08:44 AM)Ensam Wrote:  I feel like I'm getting closer to taking my game to the next level but something is missing.

Over the past week or so the quality of girl who I can get on the hook has improved dramatically. The problem I'm having is that I can tell these girls are into me, or at least open to seeing where it goes, and then somewhere after the 10-15 minute mark their eyes shut off and I've lost them. Not sure what I'm doing wrong.

Last night I started chatting up a smoke show 20 year old. Her friends came over to pull her out and she waved them off. They left the spot and I figured it was on at that point. Ask her if she wanted to keep the evening going at my place but she declined and left. I know I had her at one point during the conversation but the spark died out. Frustrating.

Your "mid-game" is weak. You've done a million approaches, so you know what to say, how to meander the beginning, how to get her hooked, but then you don't know where to go. You're getting the fish to bite, but you're having trouble reeling them in. If a young girl is leaving her friends, you're doing something right.

At this point there's a few things you could do differently, hard to tell, but a few areas that could improve:

1. Be more interesting, at this point you're moving from Attraction phase to Comfort phase (shoutout Mystery Method) and need to start talking about yourself more, showing who you are, learning more about her, and building that connection. You've already shown that you are a top tier male by approaching, but now she needs confirmation what type of man you are, which can be shown by...

2. Kino. I hate saying that word but at this point in the approach, sexual intent via physical escalation is the name of the game. Subtly let her know that you are interested in SEX, not FRIENDS, and see how she responds.

Secret Society.

3. Have more fun. There's something to be said of guys who are complete clowns, but focus on having a shared FUN experience and girls will want to stay with you throughout the entire night. Do a venue change if you have to, go on an adventure, steal someone's drinks, go dance, do some people watching, whatever.

The greatest pick up advice (ever, in my opinion) is "think what the average frustrated chump would do, and then do the opposite." The average schmuck would start talking "oh what do you do for a living, where are you from yada yada yada."

Ask where she's from, but say you heard girls from that town are dirty sluts.

Enjoy YOURSELF and the Law of Attraction states that she will enjoy HERSELF in the process.

Maybe that's why I flourish with night game, I actually ENJOY night clubs. The noise, the lights, the alcohol, the atmosphere, you can feel the electricity in the air. "The path is the destination." If you have fun, look good, and talk to girls, you will have much success with women.

(03-20-2016 10:02 AM)redbeard Wrote:  @hwuz @Suits

Real?





One of the core values of the forum is abundance mentality. Your'e going to look more like a simp if you hang around and do nothing/get overprotective of the girl.

You can find another girl. You can't find your dignity as easily after losing it.

Unless you got something better for us?

I have a minor issue that's been putting a little kink in the process of getting the first bang with new girls. So when shit's going according to plan and things are getting hot and heavy naturally you take the girls hand and put it on your dick to get things rolling. The problem for me right now though is that this recurring fungal infection I've been dealing with makes my foreskin sensitive as fuck to the point where any pulling on my dick will cause multiple painful tiny cuts that take two nights to fully heal. This problem can be completely avoided if I take my hard on and apply some coconut oil and gently stretch things out before letting her go to town and getting the bang but fuuuuuck, talk about a buzz kill. Any of you smooth playboy extraordinaires™ got any ideas for how to do this without completely killing the vibe?

(03-21-2016 05:18 AM)Mr. Pink Wrote:  I have a minor issue that's been putting a little kink in the process of getting the first bang with new girls. So when shit's going according to plan and things are getting hot and heavy naturally you take the girls hand and put it on your dick to get things rolling. The problem for me right now though is that this recurring fungal infection I've been dealing with makes my foreskin sensitive as fuck to the point where any pulling on my dick will cause multiple painful tiny cuts that take two nights to fully heal. This problem can be completely avoided if I take my hard on and apply some coconut oil and gently stretch things out before letting her go to town and getting the bang but fuuuuuck, talk about a buzz kill. Any of you smooth playboy extraordinaires™ got any ideas for how to do this without completely killing the vibe?

First you need to deal with a fungal infection on your dick. That's serious.

Im sure you've seen the doctor but what kind of antibiotics are you on? Can you get something topical to put on your dick to get rid of it. The body naturally does not want to have a fungal infection so something is going wrong with the immune system if it keeps coming back.

I would check on that first.

I did some night game this weekend for the first time since December. It was just a reminder of why I stopped doing it in the first place, the only amount of attractive girls around had a guy strapped to her shoulder. The ones that didn't looked like something you would only fuck after a 6 month dry spell.

Eventually at about 3am I wasted 90$ on tequila, because patron shots are 12$ each... And headed home. I only got one number from a chick that was near me at the bar.

(03-06-2016 10:23 AM)Ringo Wrote:  Been on a 3 week dry spell since I broke up with my LTR. Been approaching like mad, feels good.

Went out three weekends in a row, which is uncommon for me.

First one approached 20 girls and got nothing. Second one made out with two 6's but no sex (though I'm pretty sure I could have banged one - bailed after witnessing her drunkenly stuff her face with fast food). Yesterday got very close to dragging a cute chick home but got cockblocked by her friends.

Hopefully next week is the charm.

Still on the dry spell.

Contacted 3 FWB from last year and they all flaked on me and pretty much disappeared. Went out again this weekend, made out with a hot curvy blonde. Texted her the next day because she's only in town for a week, but got radio silence - so that's dead too.

Wish I could fit more day game in my routine but unfortunately that's not an option right now.

Having said that I feel more fulfilled trying to bang chicks from night or day game than actually banging girls from online. Obviously I want to bang them but the lack of emotional investment and excitement from online girls really changes the game for me.

On the good side, approach anxiety has diminshed greatly, my style and dancing skills are improving, and I'm being more direct in my approaches and filtering out girls who are not interested.

Onward we go.

(03-21-2016 07:24 AM)ball dont lie Wrote:  .

I'm actually not taking anything right now; after trying a topical treatment, an antibiotic, plus a few rounds of the Fluconazole pill over the last few months and still having this thing show back up I've almost just accepted it. That's actually pretty fucked up now that I think about it so I'll start digging for more solutions, thanks for the heads up.

I was just thinking about this the other day.

I never really go down on girls, I didn't even do to much of it with former LTR.

I guess I've done it when I've been shitfaced on a ONS once in awhile.

But that Asian just texted me asking "Kaotic, do you go down on a girl?"


I'm not sure really why I don't anymore, I don't mind it either, I just haven't.

None of the girls I've banged since my LTR or plates have I gone down on.


Actually, it might be because of my beard, and hairs and their pussy juice getting on my beard.


Anyone else not really or don't go down on girls at all?

I don't go down on girls because I don't enjoy doing it for more than a few minutes. After that it gets boring and I just want to fuck.

I commonly go down on girls if LMR is present. Eat her pussy until she's soaking wet then slide it in (shoutout SourceCode for that tip). After that I rarely do it.

The beard issue is minimal. Some girls, especially Hispanics who haven't been with hairy guys, enjoy the scratch of a man beard on their thighs.

But it can get messy. There's three foods that get in my beard, ice cream, ribs, and pussy.

(03-21-2016 12:25 PM)redbeard Wrote:  But it can get messy. There's three foods that get in my beard, ice cream, ribs, and pussy.

I'm stealing this line. Next time someone asks about my beard it'll be my go too. Your beard is too damn long as of late though. It might be easier if you trim it down a bit. You have the Egyptian Pharaoh chin mixed with Viking with it as it is.

Your jawline isn't weak so it doesn't warrant it as much. On the smell itself, I tend to fix it by applying after shave to my face after such an issue appears. The smell goes away after a few washings a bit after that.

I've got a pretty fatty beard that's why, I liked going down on my LTR when I did, but she always sucked my dick and hopped on it.

That's standard procedure for me.

LMAO Red.

and yes agreed on using that as an LMR tactic.

I just had a thought:

Preselection and Social Media validation.

Women obsess over social media and documenting every single activity they participate in because they fundamentally need to have the approval of others that what they are doing is enviable or cool...they lack the sensibilities to come to these conclusions themselves. Each like and comment on their pictures of their activities serves the same function as seeing a grip of hot chicks hovering around an alpha: It is a confirmation of "objective" value. I would posit this need for social validation for what they spend their time doing and uploading about is the same instinct that drives their attraction to men that are preselected by other women.

(03-19-2016 06:20 PM)redbeard Wrote:  You're at a loud nightclub.

4 minutes into a one set, some guy comes up and starts talking to your girl. He's getting close, but you have no idea what he's saying. You are getting AMOG'd more by the second.

What do you do?

The noise level makes it tough.

I like to ask the guy questions and make him look boring:

Me; So, are you from here?
Him : No, nebraska.
You: hmm. What part?
Him: Lincoln area.
You: Cold there in the winter.
Him: Yeah it is.
You: Job brought you here?
Him: Yes, I work in tech.
You: Nice...
Then turn say something fun and open ended to the girl..

You're trying to ask your answers in a way that his answers will make him look like a boring, uninteresting person. ( he'll be answering, "yes" "No" , etc)

Or, say to her:
So, are you going to introduce me to your boyfriend?
Her: He's not my boyfriend!
You: Oh, okay, well I guess he's your friend. How long have y'all known each other?
Her: I don't know him!
If the guy over hears her distancing herself, he may slink off.
If he doesn't:
You: Not your boyfriend? That makes sense, heh, I didn't think he was tall enough for you. ( provided you're taller or some such slight neg to get her laughing like an inside joke. You'd whisper something like this in her ear so she giggles and it's inside between you and her)
Then, "Hey, you have to check this out over by the bar"
Grab her hand and walk off, "We'll see you in a bit man"

You need to make him either look boring, or push him at the girl and make the girl distance herself.

Easier said than done of course, but these tactics can work. Be witty and unreactive. Let him be the bafoon or boorish one if it comes to that.

(03-19-2016 06:20 PM)redbeard Wrote:  You're at a loud nightclub.

4 minutes into a one set, some guy comes up and starts talking to your girl. He's getting close, but you have no idea what he's saying. You are getting AMOG'd more by the second.

What do you do?

How did the guy get so close? A large part of gaming in a crowded environment is body position, posture and situational awareness. Ideally you'd see another guy approaching and intercept by either blocking him off (if he doesn't look like he knows the girl) or introducing yourself (if she seems to know him).

If the situation you described happened to me and I was trying to subtly play defense it's most likely because she let the dude into her space. At that point I'm gonna bounce. There are other girls in the club - it's not worth my time to try and fend off some dude if the girl isn't at least making it clear she's not into the interaction with him. Exceptions are if she's making an effort to hold onto some kind of connection with me, making eye contact, shifting her body away from him, etc.

On the other hand, if I get some kind of feeling that she was really digging me and this dude is just a chode (known to her or not) I'll position myself on the other side of her from him a grab her hand (or hip, elbow, etc. depending on how she's situated). I'll whisper in her ear, 'hey, I've gotta show you something' then peel her away. There's an art to doing this so that it's subtle and doesn't feel like you're grabbing. Social dance lessons help. In some scenes they do what are called 'steal' dances were you try and steal away someones partner as they're dancing together. Learning how to block steal attempts and get your own in is a great way to figure out how to move someone away confidently when they're engaging with someone else. This is a high risk move though. If the dude ends up being her boyfriend you could easily end up getting into a physical altercation.

(03-21-2016 05:18 AM)Mr. Pink Wrote:  The problem for me right now though is that this recurring fungal infection I've been dealing with

3 words. Apple, cider, vinegar.

Just spray or rub some on. It might be too acidic and sting on the glans so dilute it or apply it before a shower. The point is to raise the ph level of the skin so its very inhospitable for the fungi.

Works with most fungal infections.

Ugh I banged a Tinder SIF tonight. She easily weighed 50lbs more than her photos. Not going to write this up in the just had sex thread. What's sad is her personality was cool and if she were in shape she would be an easy 7. What's most confusing is the sex was good and I came extra hard. Time to hit the whiskey now...

(03-21-2016 05:18 AM)Mr. Pink Wrote:  I have a minor issue that's been putting a little kink in the process of getting the first bang with new girls.

...

The problem for me right now though is that this recurring fungal infection I've been dealing with makes my foreskin sensitive as fuck to the point where any pulling on my dick will cause multiple painful tiny cuts that take two nights to fully heal.

Bro fix your dig before you worry about closing.

kaotic Wrote:Anyone else not really or don't go down on girls at all?

I love eating pussy. As long as she isn't hairy or have a sloppy roastbeef vag, then I will munch the shit out of that peach. Not much more irresistible to me than lapping up a nice smooth tight pussy. It's like digging into a juicy medium rare ribeye, perfectly seasoned. That soft tender flesh and savory juice all over my lips and chin. Then after she writhes in ecstasy, rise up to her grabbing you and sucking her own juice off of your tongue so passionately you'd swear she just fell in love.

Trainer MILF just came over, watched an old school movie, she went to the bathroom, came back.

We finished the movie, started pulling moves on her, I knew in my gut something was off.

Called her on it, "I just don't want to look stupid, blah blah, we're both single, but if I found out something blah blah"

Looking back at it, she might of found dark long hair in my bathroom that I swiffered up.

I don't even care at this point and don't even bother to hide shit.

This was going to happen sooner or later.

I called her on having feelings, and she wanting this to go places.

I bet she wanted me to admit I was with other girls, which I'll deny till I die.

We didn't even bang, it was late, she left.

Next time she texts me I'll drop the hammer and just end it. She's a nice gal, sex was great, it's always a shame when it ends like this.

Who am I kidding, I KNOW, it'll always end like this.

Onto the next one.

(03-21-2016 05:00 PM)robreke Wrote:  

(03-19-2016 06:20 PM)redbeard Wrote:  You're at a loud nightclub.

4 minutes into a one set, some guy comes up and starts talking to your girl. He's getting close, but you have no idea what he's saying. You are getting AMOG'd more by the second.

What do you do?

The noise level makes it tough.

I like to ask the guy questions and make him look boring:

Me; So, are you from here?
Him : No, nebraska.
You: hmm. What part?
Him: Lincoln area.
You: Cold there in the winter.
Him: Yeah it is.
You: Job brought you here?
Him: Yes, I work in tech.
You: Nice...
Then turn say something fun and open ended to the girl..

You're trying to ask your answers in a way that his answers will make him look like a boring, uninteresting person. ( he'll be answering, "yes" "No" , etc)

Or, say to her:
So, are you going to introduce me to your boyfriend?
Her: He's not my boyfriend!
You: Oh, okay, well I guess he's your friend. How long have y'all known each other?
Her: I don't know him!
If the guy over hears her distancing herself, he may slink off.
If he doesn't:
You: Not your boyfriend? That makes sense, heh, I didn't think he was tall enough for you. ( provided you're taller or some such slight neg to get her laughing like an inside joke. You'd whisper something like this in her ear so she giggles and it's inside between you and her)
Then, "Hey, you have to check this out over by the bar"
Grab her hand and walk off, "We'll see you in a bit man"

You need to make him either look boring, or push him at the girl and make the girl distance herself.

Easier said than done of course, but these tactics can work. Be witty and unreactive. Let him be the bafoon or boorish one if it comes to that.

Finally, someone gives a good answer.

Like robreke and Ensam said it was a weird situation.

I was posted up, facing away from the bar, she was next to me facing me. She wasn't "mine" yet, we hadn't kissed, gotten physical, or exchanged numbers. I was just some random guy talking to her. I wasn't in her head, I wasn't in control, I didn't know who she was and what her story was. It was hard to read. If she wasn't interested, this would be the perfect opportunity for her to leave. If she did like me...she would expect me to rise to the occassion and scare away the other guy.

The guy actually came up from behind, grabbed her arm and started talking to her.

If you read body language, you'd know that he was intimidated. Why was he hiding behind her? Why was he facing down so I couldn't hear him? Why didn't he try to address both of us instead of just her? He was scared. At the same time, she wasn't giving any signals that was uncomfortable. I thought I had completely lost the set, which is unfortunate because she was a spicy South American with juicy titties.

So, like in any situation, I thought What Would Donald Trump Do?




OK I didn't say "get em out of here!" but I moved closer to the girl and said in a strong, low voice, "who's your friend?" After that he recognized who the alpha male was, we talked for a few minutes, and he scurried away. Turns out he had opened her before me, the set went south, and he was running a Hail Mary play.

Oh - and I ended up banging the girl. Good thing I can Control My Thoughts and Emotions, and didn't worry about "losing my dignity" or whatever. A true abundance mentality would do the same thing, why would you just walk away? Because you would look like a "beta simp" in front of these two people? Who cares? Why are you giving other people the power to affect your emotions?

Quote:I bet she wanted me to admit I was with other girls, which I'll deny till I die.

What's the best way to handle this?

You don't want to come off as not being able to fuck other chicks, but you don't want to overtly disclose that you are in fact fucking other chicks either. What's the correct way to handle this catch-22?

(03-22-2016 11:03 AM)Red_Pillage Wrote:  

Quote:I bet she wanted me to admit I was with other girls, which I'll deny till I die.

What's the best way to handle this?

You don't want to come off as not being able to fuck other chicks, but you don't want to overtly disclose that you are in fact fucking other chicks either. What's the correct way to handle this catch-22?

Don't play the game, and drop her ass. There's always another chick.

She was sweet, but wasn't never dating material. I'm not trying to date a mom.

When the first convo got brought up awhile ago I simply told her,

"Hey I work 7 days a week, we both have lives."

"When I'm with you, I'm with you, when I'm not, I'm not."

(03-18-2016 05:06 PM)kaotic Wrote:  That's where you detach your emotions for guiltless sex.

You never invest emotions in plates, nor question it.

She's there for 1 reason, yes, granted there might be some navigation required, but in the end that's all that she is.

It's just hilarious a girl whose interested in solely being fuck buddies and abhors men getting "too attached" is signaling that she wants to lock you down.

The whole "just to let you know I'm not fucking anyone else" could also be her way of probing and validation.

In order to see if you've got game with other bitches OR that she has power over you and you're dedicated to only fucking her. This gives her an ego boost and validation.

Either way a girl who wants meaningless sex with no attachments sooner or later fucks a guy she wants to lock down, then gets pissed because he wanted just sex in the beginning, but peaces out when she catches feelings.

Maybe if bitches didn't put that vibe out in the first place and didn't fuck every dick that walked by - they just might end up with a guy who has the same intentions of finding a good woman.

I'll stop being a sexist misogynistic pig now.

Trav - yeah the most that's happened to me is going through a girls Tinder app on their phone and laughing at the openers they use.

It's been a very long time since I've had a girl try to make me jealous of texts or photos they get.

Lately I've been telling them during sex that their pussy belongs to me. Make them shout that "it's daddy's pussy. Only daddy gets to fuck this pussy!"

When they come back over and I ask them if anyone has touched their pussy they say "no daddy, its just for you."

They could be full of shit but it warms my heart to hear them say it.

(03-19-2016 09:52 AM)cubanlinx Wrote:  I tried the search feature, but didn't get anything.
Has anyone gamed law-enforcement (non-military) types? I just want to try it, for the fuck of it.

Caractacus Potts: Former Marine and current Firefighter. You fuck chicks that are LEO or military. You do not date them. You most definitely do not wife them up. That is all. Dismissed.

I used to think that "I work in finance" was the greatest line to seal the deal with a career-minded chick but now it's all about being a "tech entrepreneur." The paradigm has shifted.

(03-23-2016 09:06 AM)LouEvilSlugger Wrote:  I used to think that "I work in finance" was the greatest line to seal the deal with a career-minded chick but now it's all about being a "tech entrepreneur." The paradigm has shifted.

I wasn't aware that telling a girl you're a paper pusher moistens panties.