Switzerland is voting on a new law today. If it passes, every foreigner - no matter whether they're born in Switzerland or not - gets instantly deported if he commits a crime. Even some petty offenses could get them deported if they repeat them within 10 years. Latest polls showed 46% in favor of the new law but 49% were against it. This is going to be very close. I'm exited. If they pass this, I'll do everything I can to get there. It will be a safe haven for Europeans.
Latinopan, do not consider that Channel 4 Shill as indicative of European mindset. While a lot of us are anti-gun (I've had to debate with a few people in my time that gun problems in America are not caused by the 2nd amendment), this guy is notorious for attempting to antagonise interviewees by instigating debates regarding violence in an attempt to prove a point.
Call it akin to the ROK article about girls with Tattoos and piercings being broken, it caused such an uproar that it's premise was beyond proven. However in this case the interviewee just throws logic back and leaves this half-man with nothing to stand on save his own aghast expression.
One need only to see the interviews with Sam L Jackson and Tarantino to see what I'm talking about:
(02-28-2016 05:52 AM)Requiem Wrote: Switzerland is voting on a new law today. If it passes, every foreigner - no matter whether they're born in Switzerland or not - gets instantly deported if he commits a crime. Even some petty offenses could get them deported if they repeat them within 10 years. Latest polls showed 46% in favor of the new law but 49% were against it. This is going to be very close. I'm exited. If they pass this, I'll do everything I can to get there. It will be a safe haven for Europeans.
(02-28-2016 06:27 AM)Krieg Wrote: I assume a person born in Switzerland would be a Swiss citizen (unless he lived abroad).How will they differentiate Swiss from non Swiss?
The pencil test is back?
Nope, there is no jus soli (birthright citizenship) in Switzerland.
(02-28-2016 05:52 AM)Requiem Wrote: Latest polls showed 46% in favor of the new law but 49% were against it.
Can anyone enlighten me why a nation would be against deporting people who are a negative variable on the country's stability? Is is the same kind of Liberalism that doesn't condone the death sentence to mass murderers?
Or perhaps a large majority of residents are in that demographic and are concerned they themselves will be deported when found guilty of a crime that was minor or they were actually innocent of the crime?
(02-28-2016 05:50 AM)AManLikePutin Wrote: New version of this minister of defense thing
I think there it is right there - the reason why those countries are doomed. Nations that celebrate the fact that defense of their sovereignty now lies in the hands of untrained liberal menopausal women are literally advertising the fact that they have become easy prey for invaders and other types of aggressors.
The rapefugees now have an organized system down how to get dem white grils more efficiently. This was in the German MSM two days ago, so it's legit. I was too lazy to translate it myself but now that it's available in English:
(02-28-2016 06:27 AM)Krieg Wrote: I assume a person born in Switzerland would be a Swiss citizen (unless he lived abroad).How will they differentiate Swiss from non Swiss?
The pencil test is back?
Nope, there is no jus soli (birthright citizenship) in Switzerland.
I know.
But anyone born in a country would complete the minimum residence requirement.
Foreigners with no direct blood ties to Switzerland through either birth or marriage must currently live in the country for at least 12 years before they can apply for citizenship. Years spent in the country between ages ten and 20 count double. A new law reducing the number of years of residence from 12 to 10 was passed by Parliament in June 2014 and is expected to go into effect at the beginning of 2017.
A private contractor was fired from his position of allocating housing for migrants after Dusseldorf city administration learned he was a member of the Alternative for Germany party. City Manager Burkhard Hintzsche said “his party membership does not fit into this workplace.” The city told media he would be replaced as soon as possible.
Quote:The city administration Dusseldorf has fired an official, because he is an active member of the AFD. A corresponding report in the "Bild" newspaper confirmed a spokeswoman for the city on Friday.
The officer was competent in the housing office for the placement of refugee dwellings. "His party membership does not fit to this workspace," said City Manager Burkhard Hintzsche (SPD) to justify the displacement of the blade.
During the election campaign, the parties make each other responsible for the refugee crisis. SPD Vice Ralf Stegner is asking for counter the right-wing populists clearly.
Wrong political party = banishment.
This poem has been posted before, it deserves to be posted again.
Quote:First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak up for me.
Democracy actually works when it is used the way it was intended to. The so called democracy we have in US and Europe is a sham. We merely elect our rulers among nobles. Switzerland has it right, except they gave women the vote back in the 1970s, should not have done that.
Edit: I see all media talking about how Swiss rejected this proposal but your link seems to say it went through? What is the case here.
(02-28-2016 12:47 PM)nomadbrah Wrote: Democracy actually works when it is used the way it was intended to. The so called democracy we have in US and Europe is a sham. We merely elect our rulers among nobles. Switzerland has it right, except they gave women the vote back in the 1970s, should not have done that.
Edit: I see all media talking about how Swiss rejected this proposal but your link seems to say it went through? What is the case here.
Democracy only works when there are high standards placed on the citizens or voters.
I can't tell you how happy I am right now. This is the beginning. This will do some serious purging. Holy fuck this is gold. I will do everything to get there.
Your article is from 2010.
The now vote in Switzerland got rejected. Mostly because they want to deport offenders without check for the single case.
I'm not sure if it was Sartori who said that the problem with "democracy",or rather "so called democratic systems" is that they are a product of and entirely dependent on the culture that spawned it.
Therefore to expect the spaniards to apply the brit parliament system without expecting it to function differently is a grave mistake.
@Parzival & nomadbrah: I'm sorry I got it wrong. I searched for the keywords and this was the first article that came up from a well-known newspaper. It was about the exact same topic but apparently it's 5 years old. I just realized that and came back to correct it.
59% actually voted against the new law.
Man just fuck this gay earth. Not even Switzerland. Not even after Cologne. End it already. Europe is beyond saving. Why even live.
(02-28-2016 01:21 PM)Requiem Wrote: @Parzival & nomadbrah: I'm sorry I got it wrong. I just realized that it was an old article and came back to correct it.
59% voted against the new law. Man just fuck this gay earth. Not even Switzerland. Not even after Cologne. Europe is beyond saving. Why even live.
(02-28-2016 01:21 PM)Requiem Wrote: @Parzival & nomadbrah: I'm sorry I got it wrong. I just realized that it was an old article and came back to correct it.
59% voted against the new law. Man just fuck this gay earth. Not even Switzerland. Not even after Cologne. Europe is beyond saving. Why even live.
41% voted for, that is good.
By the time it's possible to do another vote and get 51%, it will probably be too late. But yeah, let's not despair. No good can come from that.