(02-25-2016 07:52 AM)Putin Closes Wrote:  BB, I think Philippines is a great place to hustle if you are looking for good outsourced work and getting "value for your buck" in terms of 1st world living for pretty much nothing. A significant portion of the population works hard, well enough of a % that the supply will always outweigh demand. Every time I hear an entitled complaint letter go viral in the states I laugh and wonder how many filipinos would jump at such an opportunity. This is only applicable if your doing this under the table since the gov. here loves its high taxes without showing any measurable benefit to the commoner.

A cruel example is how when Terminal 3 was pretty much finished and a mayor got shot right outside the arrivals doorway and turns out there were no CCTV cameras installed yet. The shooters never got caught.

While I'm a lot more optimistic about the Phil's than Putin Closes, his position makes some sense, considering he chooses to live her for business purposes. And he's not very pleased with women here compared to other areas he's lived at.

Putin, is there anywhere you have been that this place compares favorably to?

I also had a bad reaction when I met up with a forum member in Jakarta a few months ago and he was hating on the Phil's and how the girls in Cebu had dark skin, etc. I just ignored it, and said, oh, you didn't like it there. Different people like different places. Then changed topics. I don't think that's what this guy is doing. It's nice to have someone throw out a different perspective, and as some others have said, his argument can make some sense.

This thread has been a pretty good read lately from my perspective

Having trouble getting anything to hook online without face book.

Tinder for me has been awful so far. Just a lot flaky, entitled bitchy girls so far that have been out with 5 to 10 foreign guys already. I must be getting unlucky!

I'm gonna keep pushing it. Just getting started so it doesn't mean anything yet)

Other issue i'm having is I haven't been making any friends out here SO FAR. (possibly because I work online). Just bitches, and bitches, and bitches and bitches, and......What's a good way to make friends out here? I'm not much into clubs although maybe I should go more and have a drink or two....Online is kind of feeling like work. I wonder if quality in clubs is better than online here? My favorite is day game but it's kind of a solo sport, like working online.

Anyone play tennis or member at Rockwell? I have a Racket and I'm supposed to get a membership there next month.

Cheers RVF Phil's! Thanks for your efforts.

Check out some expat bars near greebelt

(02-26-2016 08:22 AM)esalen1 Wrote:  Having trouble getting anything to hook online without face book.

Tinder for me has been awful so far. Just a lot flaky, entitled bitchy girls so far that have been out with 5 to 10 foreign guys already. I must be getting unlucky!

If this is an issue for you, you should perhaps consider going to a country other than the Philippines. That's like going to the Phils and being surprised about the hot and humid weather. It is no secret that most of the Tinder girls are riding the cock carousel like their lives depend on it.

(02-26-2016 09:12 AM)RagnarLothbrok Wrote:  

(02-26-2016 08:22 AM)esalen1 Wrote:  Having trouble getting anything to hook online without face book.

Tinder for me has been awful so far. Just a lot flaky, entitled bitchy girls so far that have been out with 5 to 10 foreign guys already. I must be getting unlucky!

If this is an issue for you, you should perhaps consider going to a country other than the Philippines. That's like going to the Phils and being surprised about the hot and humid weather. It is no secret that most of the Tinder girls are riding the cock carousel like their lives depend on it.

Yeah, it's news to me, but not shocking. Thanks for confirming what I suspected. I do think that it can be solved by avoiding Tinder, not avoiding Phils. What places are you talking about sir?

No, I'm not wanting to be Eskimo brothers with all of the foreign tourists that come through here. F...that ! That's the firs thing I want to now about the girls I talk to out here. If they have had even one foreign b.f. it's gonna probably be a no go or one and done in my play book....

(02-26-2016 08:22 AM)esalen1 Wrote:  Tinder for me has been awful so far. Just a lot flaky, entitled bitchy girls so far that have been out with 5 to 10 foreign guys already. I must be getting unlucky!

(02-26-2016 09:12 AM)RagnarLothbrok Wrote:  

(02-26-2016 08:22 AM)esalen1 Wrote:  Having trouble getting anything to hook online without face book.

Tinder for me has been awful so far. Just a lot flaky, entitled bitchy girls so far that have been out with 5 to 10 foreign guys already. I must be getting unlucky!

If this is an issue for you, you should perhaps consider going to a country other than the Philippines. That's like going to the Phils and being surprised about the hot and humid weather. It is no secret that most of the Tinder girls are riding the cock carousel like their lives depend on it.

I'll never forget one of the first girls I met off FC said to me, "I've only been with 17 guys so far this year" She was in her mid-20's so do the Math. To her credit it was September at the time.

(02-26-2016 05:28 PM)esalen1 Wrote:  

(02-26-2016 09:12 AM)RagnarLothbrok Wrote:  

(02-26-2016 08:22 AM)esalen1 Wrote:  Having trouble getting anything to hook online without face book.

Tinder for me has been awful so far. Just a lot flaky, entitled bitchy girls so far that have been out with 5 to 10 foreign guys already. I must be getting unlucky!

If this is an issue for you, you should perhaps consider going to a country other than the Philippines. That's like going to the Phils and being surprised about the hot and humid weather. It is no secret that most of the Tinder girls are riding the cock carousel like their lives depend on it.

Yeah, it's news to me, but not shocking. Thanks for confirming what I suspected. I do think that it can be solved by avoiding Tinder, not avoiding Phils. What places are you talking about sir?

No, I'm not wanting to be Eskimo brothers with all of the foreign tourists that come through here. F...that ! That's the firs thing I want to now about the girls I talk to out here. If they have had even one foreign b.f. it's gonna probably be a no go or one and done in my play book....

You want a girl who has never fucked a foreigner?

1. Uninstall Tinder and delete your Filipinocupid account
2. Go where no foreigners are

Agree with tinder notions.

They've either met nobody, or they're meeting/fucking heaps of guys.

Want to find girls who are not banging tons of foreigners?
Go to TriNoma mall in Quezon City.

I banged 4 girls from day game there, all of whom have never dated a foreign guy before.




Find out when they have some local pop star singing (which is often) and then just be amazed how many girls are all around. There is a stage in the middle of the mall where they have the concerts.




You're welcome.

I'm not sure how anyone could complain about the girls here.

There's something for everyone.

The food is actually pretty good and diverse. I would say better than 50% of America where Pizza Hut, chicken fingers, and nachos are the top choices.

(02-26-2016 07:51 PM)Mentavious Wrote:  I'm not sure how anyone could complain about the girls here.

There's something for everyone.

The food is actually pretty good and diverse. I would say better than 50% of America where Pizza Hut, chicken fingers, and nachos are the top choices.

^^ I completely agree. The girls range from ultra easy party types to conservative and intelligent wholesome ones. The rest depends on you. The only mildly unpleasant experience I've had with women here was with a Viet girl, but that was down to communication issues. Even the used up party girls don't show signs of resentment or disillusionment, and they'll often offer to pay their share. Asian women are miles ahead of their western sisters.

I've heard vastly different opinions on how the girls are depending on who you ask. I suspect most of that will come down to differences in background, personality inclinations, and preference. Personally I find Pinays very appealing, even after considering their difficulties (jealousy, lack of intelligence in the lower class ones, etc). I enjoy spending time with them even when sex isn't involved. I stopped doing dishes and don't go out to eat much since girls will often bring over food and always wash the dishes that are in the sink.

As for food, it's inexpensive and delicious in my opinion. You can get a good tapsilog breakfast at a local place for 90PHP or lower. Adobo is delicious, and lumpia too. I love kare kare but I know it's not for everyone. Bulalo is good if you're sick. Fruits and veggies are sparse in some meals, but can be had for cheap at a local grocer. Braggs ACV and other supplements are easily found at healthy options stores. There's also cheap kimchi for probiotics, calamansi and ginger for getting over minor colds.

(02-25-2016 04:45 AM)Putin Closes Wrote:  Enigma keep in mind that was a 4 am post in the not most clear state of mind. I should probably refrain from posting past midnight. For the second pic as an example that girl is a Caucasian 7, or what I imagine most foreign guys would call a 7. Close look I can see possibility of fat hiding under that black dress. Tipsy 6 (since again -1 for dark skin), sober 5. I personally WNB sober. Fair enough.

Those are also Filipino 7s, yes in East Asia they be 6's but in the Philippines I'd wager they are already in the top 10% in terms of looks.

If you browse that photostream you'll see theres a lack of quality talent. I'm not cherry picking bad pictures. Take an average of five photos.

Filipino 7s, East Asian 6s, Western 8s. I honestly don't even know what we're talking about anymore

Regardless of what you want to rate them, those girls you posted are not rare or unattainable.

You can find girls like that working in mall department stores. That's all I'm saying.

Quote:I also think you also not living in Manila changes your perceptions. I'm sure girls in the provinces are much "sweeter" then those from the capital. This place is hustle central. Best case: Cebu vs Manila Taxi drivers.

Earlier you said I can't base income on girls in Makati, now you're saying I can't base personalities on girls outside of Makati.

This discussion has been about the country as a whole from the beginning.

For the record, I've spent time in Manila. I've talked to and dated girls in Manila. I've had girls from Manila fly out to see me on their own dime, and offer to fly me in to see them. I even got a girl from Manila pregnant.

If you're having problems with attitudes, go to the more conservative parts of Manila. It's a big place. I assure you that there are plenty of sweet girls there.

The funny thing is there are actually less foreigners just outside of Makati than there are in Cebu and Davao.

Quote:I highly doubt anyone can get an Ateneo grad in Manila you describe without putting in serious work in the capital. Especially a Craigslist ad? Is that still a thing? Would be interesting to see how you pulled that off.

I don't know why you're acting like girls at top universities are some kind of minor celebrities. Most of them are just regular people.

You may not get far on a random cold approach because they're either shy or wary of foreigners, but if you have an "in" they are usually friendly and sweet.

Ateneo de Manila is in QC, by the way, one of the more conservative areas I mentioned above.

And yes, a CL ad. I also pulled a rich Fil-Chinese with fake tits who studied in HK. Also very sweet and submissive.

I wrote an entire thread on CL game. It's way more active in Manila, so I'm sure I could do the same thing there. Plenty of affluent girls on CL and Tinder looking for some random dick.

I'll take your word for it. I've bedded a decent amount of Ateneo girls and they are much harder then your average chick off the street. They are mostly "proper", the campus itself is pretty nice although comical how they will ride a trike instead of walking between buildings. But they are fun to talk and actually educated and can speak good English. I enjoy girls from the top 4, actually come to think it the vast majority of my lays come from DLSU / Ateneo grads.

I can't imagine any quality girl getting some D from CL when there's so many beta guys giving them attention, especially with Tinder being so widespread (plus theres safety reasons to consider), but im guessing you have some sort of quality that makes you stand out. Yes, having a social network in is the most important factor in the PH.

(02-26-2016 03:41 AM)esalen1 Wrote:  

(02-25-2016 07:52 AM)Putin Closes Wrote:  BB, I think Philippines is a great place to hustle if you are looking for good outsourced work and getting "value for your buck" in terms of 1st world living for pretty much nothing. A significant portion of the population works hard, well enough of a % that the supply will always outweigh demand. Every time I hear an entitled complaint letter go viral in the states I laugh and wonder how many filipinos would jump at such an opportunity. This is only applicable if your doing this under the table since the gov. here loves its high taxes without showing any measurable benefit to the commoner.

A cruel example is how when Terminal 3 was pretty much finished and a mayor got shot right outside the arrivals doorway and turns out there were no CCTV cameras installed yet. The shooters never got caught.

While I'm a lot more optimistic about the Phil's than Putin Closes, his position makes some sense, considering he chooses to live her for business purposes. And he's not very pleased with women here compared to other areas he's lived at.

Putin, is there anywhere you have been that this place compares favorably to?

I also had a bad reaction when I met up with a forum member in Jakarta a few months ago and he was hating on the Phil's and how the girls in Cebu had dark skin, etc. I just ignored it, and said, oh, you didn't like it there. Different people like different places. Then changed topics. I don't think that's what this guy is doing. It's nice to have someone throw out a different perspective, and as some others have said, his argument can make some sense.

This thread has been a pretty good read lately from my perspective

Many places much worse then the Philippines, I much prefer it here to the good old USA for quality of living for price paid.

Worst place would probably Germany / Switzerland. Expensive countries with mediocre girls and a reluctance to use English out of national pride. Its no wonder lots of males come to Asia and wife one up here.

I'd probably go crazy coming in from Germany.

In Asia, I'd say Malaysia is pretty bad also in terms of looks (besides the chinese-malaysians). I haven't lived in anywhere long term though that compares unfavorably to Manila, mostly short visits.

Top quality is in bounties in only a few select countries. Israel (thanks compulsory military service), Ukraine, Taiwan, Japan, Korea (if you like that look) are among my favorites. Girl attitudes range, although I find Israeli girls to be a bit too masculine for my tastes, but go the beaches in Tel Aviv and I'd wager as good as any other place in the world.

Nothing as sexy as a israeli girl with a semi-auto slinged around her shoulder.

Speaking of foreigners in the Phils;

http://learningenglish.voanews.com/conte...45998.html

Philippines Offers Eight Military Bases to US

(02-27-2016 01:36 AM)Putin Closes Wrote:  I'll take your word for it. I've bedded a decent amount of Ateneo girls and they are much harder then your average chick off the street. They are mostly "proper", the campus itself is pretty nice although comical how they will ride a trike instead of walking between buildings. But they are fun to talk and actually educated and can speak good English. I enjoy girls from the top 4, actually come to think it the vast majority of my lays come from DLSU / Ateneo grads.

You said you were having trouble with the girls you posted, I said that I've pulled better looking girls on CL.

The point simply being that it is very possible (and at times easy) to get that kind of girl.

Quote:I can't imagine any quality girl getting some D from CL when there's so many beta guys giving them attention, especially with Tinder being so widespread (plus theres safety reasons to consider), but im guessing you have some sort of quality that makes you stand out. Yes, having a social network in is the most important factor in the PH.

1. Why would she fuck me and not a "beta guy"? Because beta guys don't make her pussy wet.

Yes, women from more traditional countries will seek long-term relationships with men who can provide for them, but:

- That does not apply to hookups
- Most foreign men with decent income are capable of providing a upper-middle to upper class lifestyle anyways

I think you guys give the beta bucks crowd too much credit.

2. Why would she use CL over Tinder? Because CL is much more discreet and allows women to get dick without their affluent social circle seeing their face on a "hookup app". The Fil-Chinese didn't even send me a pic of her face before we met.

Online dating in general is taboo in the Philippines, let alone Tinder. Add in the negative connotation attached to women that date foreign men and the special importance Asians place on public perception, and there you go.

I'm not trying to say CL game is amazing in PH. I rarely use it and simply mentioned it in passing. There's an 18 page thread on it in the Game forum if you want to learn more.

Speak of whitey's and sea girls, I found this article pretty amusing:

http://seriouslymince.blogspot.com/2014/...rt-of.html

"How to win the heart of a 'decent farang' - and keep him

When it comes to getting a decent farang man some Thai girls just have all the luck! But why?!"

I actually pulled a girl from CL this week as well. Has her masters in a relevant field and makes good money for being a Philippine chick.

She just doesn't want her work mates all in her business and wanted a NSA good fucking.

You would be surprised how many decent girls are trolling CL for discreet dick. Not just from the Phils but from all over the world.

Regarding the dating site Cherry Blossoms.

I started receiving emails from a site called "Marriage Agency Nataly".

The email itself contained the email address, and the password in plain text, which I used on Cherry Blossoms a year ago.

I logged into that 'marriage' site, it copied my profile from Cherry Blossoms - details, profile text, everything.

So basically Cherry Blossoms just sold it to them, or someone hacked their database and took all the details. A database in which they store passwords in plain text (no less than insane disregard for security).

They even display the password in plain text on your profile editing page, no less.

Bottom line: if you choose to use that website, which I can't recommend enough against as of this moment, make sure you use a useless email and password, and never, ever, give them any payment information.

BB,

That was a great post. It really does help to keep some perpective on things. There is still plenty of untapped territory out there. You got me dreamily looking at maps this afternoon.

(02-26-2016 07:26 PM)DirectDanger Wrote:  Want to find girls who are not banging tons of foreigners?
Go to TriNoma mall in Quezon City.

I banged 4 girls from day game there, all of whom have never dated a foreign guy before.




Find out when they have some local pop star singing (which is often) and then just be amazed how many girls are all around. There is a stage in the middle of the mall where they have the concerts.




You're welcome.

I predict that by next week this mall will experience a mysterious influx of foreigners.

(02-27-2016 01:47 AM)Putin Closes Wrote:  [quote='esalen1' pid='1232287' dateline='1456476080']
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Top quality is in bounties in only a few select countries. Israel (thanks compulsory military service), Ukraine, Taiwan, Japan, Korea (if you like that look) are among my favorites. Girl attitudes range, although I find Israeli girls to be a bit too masculine for my tastes, but go the beaches in Tel Aviv and I'd wager as good as any other place in the world.

Nothing as sexy as a israeli girl with a semi-auto slinged around her shoulder.

Taiwan was great. I wasn't seeing hardly any foreigners there. Same with Japan. There's enough girls walking around both those places for day game, you can approach all day long. Plus the weather can get cooler which can be good if you like some cooler weather. Vietnam also had a lot of pale skinned women. Maybe you would like it there. I'm wanting to go back to Vietnam and Taiwan, and maybe take some lessons in Mandarin Chinese in Taipei.

It's probably a little more difficult to get laid, but I can see why you like those places so much. Not been to Ukraine or Korea yet. But Kiev is on my short list....

I'll say that the fact that you can get great workers here in the Philippines, may be a good sign for the future of the economy here. They have some great potential IMO.

How much does a nurse make in Manila?

Doing due diligence on a girl.

$250-300/month is about typical for a nurse working in the Philippines, according to one of my girls there. She wanted to be a nurse, but got a better paying job in a large real estate company.

(02-28-2016 05:56 PM)the Thing Wrote:  How much does a nurse make in Manila?

Doing due diligence on a girl.

They make next to nothing sadly. Girls I knew were making 12k - 18k / month but they were all fairly fresh graduates and in their first few years of working.

I saw a news story saying they were trying to raise the minimum to 24k so perhaps once they've worked for a year or two then it rises to a fair bit more.