(02-25-2016 12:22 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Quote:Long story short, most men allow certain things to happen naturally. In fact, men respect nature and its differences. But it does not mean we don't have the ability to enforce it when needed. Push too far, and the instinct to protect and set right the wild and unpredictable nature that exists, becomes too great.

The rancher in your story is a masculine men who knows how to fight and defend himself.

But how about if he was weak and effeminate? How about if he was trained from years of brainwashing to love the wolf and its destruction on his land? How about if he was given chemicals and entertainments to weaken his masculinity? This weak man can not even control a lamb, let alone fight back against the wolf.

A lot of people are using the Crusades as an example for when the European man got angry and stood up. But there are hardly any men like that in Western Europe today. Today's European man was raised to be weak and impotent. And the few strong men will be crushed first by their own government. In fact, all signs point to their government allying with the Muslim invaders to defeat them.

It can create opportunity for others to do the hard work. I am being a bit of the devils advocate because I see around me plenty of men who are ready and capable of pushing back if need be. A lot of them I have met through RVF, but I am meeting more every day that are also becoming fed up. Unfortunately for my Scandi and German buddies, when they push back its going to mean violence and being back stabbed by their own government and people.

The situation should not have happened in the first place, and every day they allow this invasion to continue the bloodier it will be when the real men have had enough.

Back to wolves*: Because so many men are now giant pussies and worried about saving the wolves, which in turn wipes out Caribou and Moose populations, men like my cousin are able to kill over 100 wolves a year and make a bunch of money doing it.

*that's all the wolf analogies from me

(02-25-2016 02:22 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  [quote='Samseau' pid='1231265' dateline='1456421713']
[quote='nomadbrah' pid='1231231' dateline='1456418522']


This is what is so important for Scandinavians to understand - THEY are the real, original Europeans, Scandinavians have lived in Europe for 40.000 years!

All other populations, including the Mediterranean (10.000 years ago) are newcomers. The people of the Ice and Snow are the original inhabitants of Europe, there simply are no doubts about it.

It is important to understand the impact of this timeline.

The West African ethnic group is only 10.000 years old, the earliest Han chinese findings are also only 10.000 years old.

Cro-Magnon - 183cm tall, 1600cc brain, is 40.000 years old.

Are Europeans just going to let that go extint?

Rubbish..It is hard to impossible to say for sure who is more indigenous European and who carries the genetics of Indo Europeans.Europeans are a mix. Also,the genetic analysis of males and females in every European population shows very different migration dynamics with European women mitochnodrial DNA in most cases originating locally while male Y haplotypes are almost always brought from elsewhere (Indo European).You are basing this conclusion on the fact that Scandinavians possess more I2 Y haplotype markers (associated with proto Europeans) than other European populations. But it is only one small gene passed from a father to son.It basically means that original European man managed to produce children and passed his genes, while it is unclear who he produced those children with: it could be a Indo European woman or any woman really. Somehow his genes survived (he could be a local chieftain for example) in big numbers but again it is not clear who his decendants for thousands of years reproduced with. You can only say for sure that approx 30% of Scandinavians have a common ancestor who happen to be a Proto European (like 30% of people in the Balkans too). This completely excludes any female genetics.

Possibly the closest to original settlers of Europe are those who do not speak an Indo European language. These are Finnic people: Finns, Estonians,number of ethnicities in Russia like Mordva,Komi,Permians,Udmurts . Also Basks in Spain do not speak a language associated with Indo-Europeans. But again,language is not a representation of a nation's origin. For example, Bulgarians are Turks who speak a Slav language, while Serbs genetically are closely connected to Albanians (stemming from original,Illyrian population of the Balkans) yet speak a Slav language,as opposite to Albanians. British are very loosely associated with Western Germanic peoples (no more then 10-15% of common genetics) yet speak a language based on Anglo saxon etc etc.

(02-25-2016 04:12 PM)Krieg Wrote:  

(02-25-2016 02:22 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  [quote='Samseau' pid='1231265' dateline='1456421713']
[quote='nomadbrah' pid='1231231' dateline='1456418522']


This is what is so important for Scandinavians to understand - THEY are the real, original Europeans, Scandinavians have lived in Europe for 40.000 years!

All other populations, including the Mediterranean (10.000 years ago) are newcomers. The people of the Ice and Snow are the original inhabitants of Europe, there simply are no doubts about it.

It is important to understand the impact of this timeline.

The West African ethnic group is only 10.000 years old, the earliest Han chinese findings are also only 10.000 years old.

Cro-Magnon - 183cm tall, 1600cc brain, is 40.000 years old.

Are Europeans just going to let that go extint?

Rubbish.They possess as many Indo European haplotype markers as any other European nation.It is hard to impossible to say for sure who is more indigenous European and who carries the genetics of Indo Europeans.Europeans are a mix. Also,the genetic analysis of males and females in every European population shows very different migration dynamics with European women mitochnodrial DNA in most cases originating locally while male Y haplotypes are almost always brought from elsewhere (Indo European).

Possibly the closest to original settlers of Europe are those who do not speak an Indo European language. These are Finnic people: Finns, Estonians,number of ethnicities in Russia like Mordva,Komi,Permians,Udmurts . Also Basks in Spain do not speak a language associated with Indo-Europeans. But again,language is not a representation of a nation's origin. For example, Bulgarians are Turks who speak a Slav language, while Serbs genetically are closely connected to Albanians (stemming from original,Illyrian population of the Balkans) yet speak a Slav language,as opposite to Albanians. British are very loosely associated with Western Germanic peoples (no more then 10-15% of common genetics) yet speak a language based on Anglo saxon etc etc.

I think Krieg is right here. NomadBrah's numbers are contradicted by what is written on Metapedia:

http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Whites

Quote:Genetic studies have found evidence for three ancestral populations of present day Europeans: ancient European hunter-gatherers, early European farmer (who migrated from the origin of agriculture in the Near East around 10,000 years ago), and ancient north Eurasians (who started migrating around 5,000 years ago).[4][5]
However, the presence, degree of spread, and persistence of the early farmer from the Near East have been questioned.[6][7][8]

The ancient north Eurasians may be the group who according to the Kurgan hypothesis lived in the Russian steppe, spoke the first Indo-European language, and who caused the spread of many new technologies and new cultural/religious institutions over Europe.

A minority view is that it was the early European farmer who spread the Indo-European languages.[9]

Aryan is a term that early Indo-European speakers used to designate themselves.
That Europeans thousands of years ago had ancestors from somewhat different groups (but still related West Eurasian groups) has sometimes been argued to be an argument against Europeans being a race. Regarding this, see Race: Mixed race groups.

When you click on Mixed Race Groups:

http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Race#Mixed_race_groups

Quote:The admixture occurred in the distant past. Typically there was race mixing but it occurred a long time ago, there has been much interbreeding in the group causing it to become genetically homogeneous, and the long time period has caused the group to became adapted to the local environment through natural selection. Such a group may best be described as a (new) race. In fact, almost all or all human races belong to this group since in the distant past there have been some interbreeding with groups such as Neanderthals, Denisovans and archaic human groups in Africa.[26][27][28] Another example is the interbreeding between agriculturalists and hunger-gatherers in Europe that occurred many thousands of years ago. These agriculturalists have sometimes been described as being from the "Middle East" but they most likely were quite different from the current populations in the Middle East and the very slow journey most likely cause large evolutionary changes even before they arrived at their final destination (where natural selection as noted above caused further evolutionary changes).

I think Metapedia gets a lot right, but they miss the power and significance recessive genes play on evolution. My theory is that evolution selects for certain recessive genes, and these genes are responsible for most physiological, psychological, and behavioral evolution.

There is also the interesting case of Georgians, a distinct group of White people with very little few genetic ties to Europe:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgians#Genetics

A study of human genetics by Battaglia, Fornarino, al-Zahery, et al. (2009) suggests that Georgians have the highest percentage of Haplogroup G (30.3%) among the general population recorded in any country. Georgians' Y-DNA also belongs to Haplogroup J2 (31.8%), Haplogroup R1a (10.6%), and Haplogroup R1b (9.1%).[24]

Haplogroup G:



Haplogroup J2:



Haplogroups R1a and R12 are traditional European genomes.

So in the case of the Georgians, we can see that they are a distinct group of Whites with only a small amount of European DNA from the Y side, with the X mainly being indigenous to the Caucus region. This shows again there must be a recessive recombination force at work that gives the Georgians their White morphological features, and that the "White purity" dogma is pseudoscience.

Samseu, Georgians and similar are remnants of white tribes who lived everywhere in Asia all the way to China before Turks, Mongols and Arabs invaded. Their patriarchal Y-DNA is usually from those haplogroups while the mtDNA is European. You can probably imagine what that means.

As for white people elsewhere, have you seen the Kalash people of North Pakistan?











These are NORDIC people, not broadly European or some 'caucasian' definition, pure Nordic blue eyed people straight out of Sweden.

Aren't blue eyes more dominant? wasn't there a study that supposedly all people with blue eyes derived from one descendant.

(02-25-2016 05:40 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  Samseu, Georgians and similar are remnants of white tribes who lived everywhere in Asia all the way to China before Turks, Mongols and Arabs invaded. Their patriarchal Y-DNA is usually from those haplogroups while the mtDNA is European. You can probably imagine what that means.

As for white people elsewhere, have you seen the Kalash people of North Pakistan?











These are NORDIC people, not broadly European or some 'caucasian' definition, pure Nordic blue eyed people straight out of Sweden.

And yet, I doubt these pictured individuals are Nordic or even have much European DNA in them. A DNA test on these individuals would settle the matter quite conclusively.

If there is no European DNA to be found in them, as I suspect, the explanation that makes sense is the theory I am advancing - these individuals are expressing recessive White traits, perhaps leftovers of racial mixing that occurred tens of thousands of years ago, who happened to have two parents each with at least one recessive White gene.

Recessive genes behave by creating new recessive phenotypes out of dominant stock, so they never actually die out. Over a long enough timeline, recessive traits always become the most common providing the population pool remains sacrosanct.

Quote:The Kalash represent an enigmatic isolated population of Indo-European speakers who have been living for centuries in the Hindu Kush mountain ranges of present-day Pakistan. Previous Y chromosome and mitochondrial DNA markers provided no support for their claimed Greek descent following Alexander III of Macedon's invasion of this region, and analysis of autosomal loci provided evidence of a strong genetic bottleneck.

To understand their origins and demography further, we genotyped 23 unrelated Kalash samples on the Illumina HumanOmni2.5M-8 BeadChip and sequenced one male individual at high coverage on an Illumina HiSeq 2000. Comparison with published data from ancient hunter-gatherers and European farmers showed that the Kalash share genetic drift with the Paleolithic Siberian hunter-gatherers and might represent an extremely drifted ancient northern Eurasian population that also contributed to European and Near Eastern ancestry.

Since the split from other South Asian populations, the Kalash have maintained a low long-term effective population size (2,319–2,603) and experienced no detectable gene flow from their geographic neighbors in Pakistan or from other extant Eurasian populations. The mean time of divergence between the Kalash and other populations currently residing in this region was estimated to be 11,800 (95% confidence interval = 10,600−12,600) years ago, and thus they represent present-day descendants of some of the earliest migrants into the Indian sub-continent from West Asia.

They are ancient.

Which only proves that in relation to Krieg that the use of words such as Eurasian or Near East is wildly misleading when speaking about ancient genetics.

To simplify, ancient Europeans, whether present in modern day Ukraine, Germany, Baltics or Kurgan Steppe were phenotypically Nordic.

The I1, R1a or R1b doesn't really matter.

Then we have the Wiki contribution:

Quote:The study also showed the Kalash to be a separated group, having no membership within European populations.[41]

Yet, anyone can tell they're Nordic.

I'd be interested in your theory because it might explain cases such as Kalash, clearly Europoid but might not show the genetic markers.

Another interesting and similar case is the Ainu which clearly exhibit Europoid features, but have no genetic relation to Europe. This despite some of them practically being able to pass for Europeans.

Schengen will 'break down' in 10 days if no solution to migrant crisis found - EU commissioner

Quote:There are only ten days left for European Union officials to significantly reduce the flow of migrants and asylum-seekers into the EU from Turkey, or the Schengen system is at risk of total collapse, according to the EU’s migration commissioner.

This is good news if it is true. Schegen and by extension the EU really need to collapse so that Europe can save itself.

How likely is that though? I mean, just a few weeks ago, wasn't the French PM saying that and it hasn't fallen yet.

Women: All talk, no action.
Effeminate men act like women.
Central and West Euro governments are effeminate men, there's the explanation of inaction.

My girlfriend saw some clips from British Parliament courtesy of Max Kolonko, and she not only voiced her disapproval of the males there but I could have sworn I heard her vagina collapse in on itself.

(02-25-2016 06:22 PM)8ball Wrote:  Aren't blue eyes more dominant? wasn't there a study that supposedly all people with blue eyes derived from one descendant.

They are not dominant. But like all genes they are inside you, everything from the start of evolution to all your ancestors. And at one point something can show, do a jump for several generations.
I read about a case where a women gave birth to a black baby, her husband accused her for cheating. But its was her mother that did cheat to her white husband with a black but because of some strange genetic case the kid - the daughter was white. Still she did carry inside the black genetics and gave it to her kid with her white husband.

http://www.focus.de/regional/kiel/vorfal...16633.html

Quote:Three young women were allegedly molested in Kiel by around 30 men. When police arrived, the officials were insulted. In addition, some of the alleged perpetrators resisted the arrest. Two of the men were briefly detained.

A group of around 30 men to have three young women in Kiel Sophienhof harassed massively on Thursday evening 17:30 to 19:30. The three girls aged 15, 16 and 17 years were first observed by two men, aged 19 and 26 years, pursued and finally photographed with mobile phones in a restaurant in Sophienhof and filmed as the police notifies.
The police suspect that the two men, said to be of Afghan origin, who then sent the images and videos via social networks. A few minutes later happened to the duo a 30 man strong mob. The harassment became more intense. watched the men's group and followed the three young women. Physical assaults, it should not have been.
insulted and attacked police officers

Two of the girls were able to escape, but returned a short time later out of concern for her friend back in the restaurant. There, the women met again on the two main culprits that harassed on. Passersby who watched the event, then called the security service and the police. When the officers arrived on the spot, they were massively insulted verbally. In addition, the police have been physically attacked and threatened.

Cultural enrichment goes on....

I watch now the TV Series Occupied, it got recommend here. Its great and show how passive a nation can be when they face a violent threat but stick so much to their non violent behaviour.

A glimpse at the future of Europe





I just don't see much hope for Europe. Countless great empires have fallen to Islam and they were actively fighting. Europeans don't even realize the threat, western society is completely infiltrated by feminism/pc culture and sold out by the elites. You might think the situation is not bad or that it will stabilize but then you are missing the point of this doctrine of war. Uncontested, Islam will spread like a cancer.

(02-26-2016 02:14 PM)syrianguy Wrote:  A glimpse at the future of Europe





I just don't see much hope for Europe. Countless great empires have fallen to Islam and they were actively fighting. Europeans don't even realize the threat, western society is completely infiltrated by feminism/pc culture and sold out by the elites. You might think the situation is not bad or that it will stabilize but then you are missing the point of this doctrine of war. Uncontested, Islam will spread like a cancer.

True and that's why we need Trump.

Even if Europe does fall, a Trump presidency with good relations could actually lead to US and Russian boots on the ground in Europe. They did so in the Balkans and it can happen again easily.

The fallout might be ugly and lead to several muslim enclaves like Kosovo being created.

(02-26-2016 12:28 PM)Parzival Wrote:  

(02-25-2016 06:22 PM)8ball Wrote:  Aren't blue eyes more dominant? wasn't there a study that supposedly all people with blue eyes derived from one descendant.

They are not dominant. But like all genes they are inside you, everything from the start of evolution to all your ancestors. And at one point something can show, do a jump for several generations.
I read about a case where a women gave birth to a black baby, her husband accused her for cheating. But its was her mother that did cheat to her white husband with a black but because of some strange genetic case the kid - the daughter was white. Still she did carry inside the black genetics and gave it to her kid with her white husband.

http://www.focus.de/regional/kiel/vorfal...16633.html

Quote:Three young women were allegedly molested in Kiel by around 30 men. When police arrived, the officials were insulted. In addition, some of the alleged perpetrators resisted the arrest. Two of the men were briefly detained.

A group of around 30 men to have three young women in Kiel Sophienhof harassed massively on Thursday evening 17:30 to 19:30. The three girls aged 15, 16 and 17 years were first observed by two men, aged 19 and 26 years, pursued and finally photographed with mobile phones in a restaurant in Sophienhof and filmed as the police notifies.
The police suspect that the two men, said to be of Afghan origin, who then sent the images and videos via social networks. A few minutes later happened to the duo a 30 man strong mob. The harassment became more intense. watched the men's group and followed the three young women. Physical assaults, it should not have been.
insulted and attacked police officers

Two of the girls were able to escape, but returned a short time later out of concern for her friend back in the restaurant. There, the women met again on the two main culprits that harassed on. Passersby who watched the event, then called the security service and the police. When the officers arrived on the spot, they were massively insulted verbally. In addition, the police have been physically attacked and threatened.

Cultural enrichment goes on....

I watch now the TV Series Occupied, it got recommend here. Its great and show how passive a nation can be when they face a violent threat but stick so much to their non violent behaviour.

what do you think parzival, are germans finally going to snap and fight back? some angry dad go on a rampage?

(02-26-2016 03:06 PM)Cosmonaut Wrote:  what do you think parzival, are germans finally going to snap and fight back? some angry dad go on a rampage?

Sorry to burst your bubble brother but Germany is lost. The seed of Islam has been firmly planted at this point and unless it is rooted out before the end of this decade it will slowly spread and engulf the rest of the nation. And we all know (or should at least) that this will not happen. Every day people like us read the horrible news coming out of that country with incredulity and wonder when a popular uprising will finally begin. And of course we continue to wait in vain while the Germans stick their heads a little bit further into the sand whilst telling each other bitter sweet lies that have little resemblance with reality. Or would serve to prepare for the horrible future and terrile fate they and their children are about to face.

I really wish it wasn't so but if you read history and familiarize yourself with the fate of various other nations that once were Christian but were conquered by Islam (e.g. Syria or Egypt) then you should rightly come to the same conclusions.

Unfortunately I have come to embrace the fact that this thread is nothing but a death watch for the German nation (and that of France perhaps). It's too late already and the mentality/willingness to reverse this development is not present among the majority of the German people. Chances are they will simply submit after a small minority of opponents either have been incarcerated (by their own people) or will be killed fighting a growing horde of combat ready Islamic fanatics. Many years from now, once a sufficient number of the German people are finally willing to acknowledge the implications of their arrogance and hubris, the damage to their nation will be irreversible. One may argue that we have already crossed that point.

Well, i wouldnt say im living in any kind of bubble, i was merely asking what he thought, and what his opinions are since he lives in a different part of germany than i do. in any case, tensions seem really high around here lately. i dont think the situation is so dire as many here want to say it is quite yet. if it came to a fight, right now, it would be over very, very quickly (for them). I think another thing to keep in mind is that the migrants that come here are hardly a single block or army...there are fights between them all the time. they are quite divided, despite their faith. turks and arabs do not get along. arabs and afghans etc. even syrians and algerians/moroccans are fighting in the shelters. in neukoln there were protests amongst the mostly turkish residents about a placement of a new refugee center in that part of the city.

(02-26-2016 03:06 PM)Cosmonaut Wrote:  what do you think parzival, are germans finally going to snap and fight back? some angry dad go on a rampage?

Mh, there was a case where a girl just ram a knife into the belly of a rapefugee. Also in a video where two guys harass a couple the guy fights back. The Berlin report shows also a dude that fight back to protect his girl. One case where refugees did harass the 14 or 16 year old daughter of a dad. He send a letter to the refugee camp, if something like this happen again, there will be consequences. But I don't now every single case because its nothing the media covers. Just sometimes reports after cologne how the mothers are shocked.

When I take a look at my experience in younger days with immigrants and my friends, we always fought back. Those people are like rats. Just strong in groups and where they don't expect resistance.
I can not talk for every German because many are soft and don't know how to fight. Even more, something like this, to be a man and stand up for something never cross their mind. I grew up in an area with local beer festivals where you had to fight people just because you are from a different village. Its funny how non white foreigners or even Germans often assume we Germans get all along. When you are a young guy and go to a different village festival, it can happen that the local guys call you out. If you are a foreigner, mostly nothing will happen to you *lol*
The blaze of glory days are over for me and my friends but those are dudes that worked at construction and other blue colour work. They had their fights because of their values. Its well know that we get a lot of scum that need a punishment. So if something happen I know some people would react. The question is, are those people out there when something happen?

Furthermore some Germans protest, they go on the street, they do even attacks on refugee camps. The whole problem is, all those guys that are out there to stand up are a minority. Also I don't know what will happen to them when the police catch you. At the moment the violence of the rapefugees is against each other or against women. Also do not forget, all the religious and ethnic conflicts those guys have. The fights in the camps get a little bit out of the focus since they attack women. They are not one big group. They jump on each other too.
I don't know where the boyfriends are or if there are some when they do their attacks.

I guess some areas will stand up and others not because they are to feminized.

If Serbia-Hungary border is closed, migrants may go through Ukraine and Poland via the Black Sea.

   

Polish nationalists are talking about building a wall on the Eastern border: http://thenews.pl/1/9/Artykul/242324,Pol...t-refugees

Hearing AfD is expected to make major gains next month, and grew more popular when one of the people there said border guards should shoot invaders if necessary.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/20.../80856410/

This was a real interesting article in the Trump thread that is worth repeating here. Basically it's about "preference falsification" and something we all know about crowd psychology - when an unpopular opinion suddenly becomes popular because it was kept bottled up for fear of social ostracism, regimes change in a cascade. We're seeing this with Trump and may soon see it in Europe.

Trump might have a positive effect on Europe as well.

The Brexit thing may be a closer-run thing than we may have thought, though I still unfortunately predict that Britain will narrowly choose to stay in.

Hey Roosh... thought you could relate...

I d agree with red pillage in that a very large portion of the german populace has been 1984ed into non agression,wouldnt deny that there are fit and fighting braves out and about these fine lands but it seems as if they are either too spread or small groups and unorganized atm to be of a substantial presence,at least its what it seems but I could always be wrong...

RELIEVE! We can basically lock this thread. It's over. Merkel and her cabinet of clowns now claim that it's just gonna be 3.6 Million additional soulmates until 2020. That's peanuts. And the numbers for the 2015 enrichers were also just triple the estimated amount.

http://www.dailystormer.com/germany-clai...s-by-2020/

Quote:[...]the right to “family reunion” for rejected asylum seekers who still cannot be expelled because they “risk torture or the death penalty in their own country” will be “restricted.”
This is, of course, more nonsense from the Merkel regime. It is currently a rule that anyone under threat of “torture” in their home county qualifies for asylum anyway—and this means that the new “rule” has been created to address a situation which does not even exist.

Quote:The Bundestag also approved a new “rule” which “lowers the hurdles” for the expulsion from Germany of any foreigner convicted of a crime. This is also nonsense, because it has already been shown that convicted foreigners are hardly ever expelled anyway, because the Third World nations from which they come either refuse to take them back or simply are incapable of receiving them.

Meanwhile in based Russia:
http://www.dailystormer.com/putin-orders...-refugees/

Quote:President Vladimir Putin has called on Russia’s Federal Security Service (FSB) to closely monitor people arriving in the country as refugees and also traveling onward into Europe, while stressing that the EU refugee crisis has nothing to do with Russia’s actions in Syria.

Quote:The president also stressed the necessity to “safely close the territory of Russia” from penetration of militants from the Middle East and other regions, and to “uncover and neutralize” those who are involved in terrorism activities globally.

Meanwhile in based HUNGARY:
http://www.dailystormer.com/hungarian-vo...eatens-eu/

Quote:The news that Hungary will vote on whether to let the European Union (EU) forcibly resettle thousands of nonwhite invader “refugees” in that country poses the single most serious threat to the future existence of that organization yet.

Good, I hope that shitshow self-destructs.

Quote:“Hungary is under enormous pressure,” he said, “[over] whether or not the EU will succeed in pushing a new EU asylum and migrant system down the throats of the central European countries, including ours. Such a system would authorize [the EU] to distribute migrants among the other EU countries, including those which have not taken in migrants, do not want to, are opposed to this, and do not want any part in it.”

Quote:“The government is responding to public sentiment now: we Hungarians think introducing resettlement quotas for migrants without the backing of the people equals an abuse of power.”

Orban said he was aware of potential wider ramifications of such a referendum, especially if Hungarians say “No” to quotas.

“We had to think about the potential impact on European politics of such a proposal, but that was a secondary consideration,” he said.

“To us this is a fundamental, unavoidable, essential question of Hungarian politics: can anyone else decide for Hungarians who we Hungarians should or should not live with?”

(02-26-2016 05:10 PM)Libertas Wrote:  Hearing AfD is expected to make major gains next month, and grew more popular when one of the people there said border guards should shoot invaders if necessary.

Let's wait and see. Thus far they are still apologizing too much for saying the right things. Maybe it's necessary because everyone here is super cautious and sensitive with the nazi stuff, but I'm annoyed by it - especially when comparing it to Trump who just owns everything he says.

They said if the soulmates overdo it and the boarder guards have to defend themselves, they should ultimately be allowed to fire their guns. - NATIONAL OUTRAGE. Hey dipshits - if they shouldn't be allowed to fire their guns - WHY GIVE THEM GUNS IN THE FIRST PLACE?

There will be small elections in three states on the 13th of March. If AfD gets >20% at least in one of the three states, it might revive my last bit of hope for this country. But right now, it seems like they can call themselves lucky if they touch 15%.

(02-26-2016 05:10 PM)Libertas Wrote:  Hearing AfD is expected to make major gains next month, and grew more popular when one of the people there said border guards should shoot invaders if necessary.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/20.../80856410/

This was a real interesting article in the Trump thread that is worth repeating here. Basically it's about "preference falsification" and something we all know about crowd psychology - when an unpopular opinion suddenly becomes popular because it was kept bottled up for fear of social ostracism, regimes change in a cascade. We're seeing this with Trump and may soon see it in Europe.

Trump might have a positive effect on Europe as well.

The Brexit thing may be a closer-run thing than we may have thought, though I still unfortunately predict that Britain will narrowly choose to stay in.

Good point.

I think one of the reasons why it is taking so long for Europe to fight back is because the majority of the European leaders just suck.