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Poland says it cannot coexist "with Middle East People"

Quote:A dispute over how to shelter 160,000 refugees in Europe got deeper today when Poland said its population is unable to live with people from the Middle East. EurActiv Greece reports.

The Dutch EU presidency, helped by Germany, Italy and Greece, is trying to convince Eastern European countries to join an EU-wide plan to redistribute 160,000 refugees seeking shelter in Europe.

But the leaders from the Visegrad (V4) countries — Poland, the Czech Republic, Slovakia and Hungary — are opposed to the idea.

“Central and Eastern EU countries do not have the experience to live with citizens from North Africa or the Middle East,” said a Polish diplomat contacted by EurActiv.

“From the very beginning of the refugee crisis we have underestimated the social differences in those countries. Before we start taking in and distributing [refugees] we need to communicate it to the people of Europe,” said the Polish diplomat, who preferred not to be named.

The Polish position echoes comments by Slovakia, whose Prime Minister Robert Fico [b]said that Muslims cannot be integrated in mostly Christian European societies.

'50 million migrants who will change Europe’[/b]

Speaking to EurActiv on condition of anonymity, another high ranking diplomat said “up to 50 million” immigrants were expected to arrive on the old continent in the coming years, adding this “will change Europe” forever.

V4 countries intend to prevent this from happening.

At their “mini-summit” on 15 February, the V4 adopted a “plan B” in the event of a collapse of the Schengen area, which could be triggered by an exit of Greece from the European passport-free area.

V4 leaders want Greece to seal its borders with Bulgaria and Macedonia to effectively stem the migration flow coming from Turkey.

Warsaw says it “comprehends” that some EU countries face difficulties in protecting their external borders, but “these countries should also understand that some other EU countries haven’t learnt how to live with people from the Middle East”.

Coalition of the willing

Now, a high-ranking EU source told EurActiv that a powerful front was taking shape against the Visegrad Group’s “plan B” to address the refugee crisis.

The source, who preferred not to be named because of the sensitivity of the topic, said the V4 was highly influenced by Hungary’s Victor Orbán and showed no willingness to reach a political compromise with its European partners.

A “coalition of the willing” is now being established to raise the pressure on the V4 to accept more migrants.

Greece believes that some EU countries have no idea what the protection of sea borders means. Of the four Visegrad countries, the Czech Republic, Slovakia and Hungary are landlocked.

Athens, together with Rome, argues that there is a lack of cooperation with other EU member states to address the refugee crisis, especially concerning the relocation of 160,000 refugees from Greece and Italy.

To date, less than 500 people have been relocated, and only 14 member states have informed Greece that a further 601 refugees could be relocated, a diplomat said, adding that almost 1,000 people have been relocated from Italy, too.

The diplomat said that most criticism of the EU plan came from those countries that had not provided any help at all.

Rome is urging member states to contribute and implement the relocation agreements, insisting that the refugee crisis concerned “people”, and that no one should forget that.

Italy similarly believes that the temporary reintroduction of border controls within Schengen should be avoided at all costs.

Bulgarian Prime Minister Boyko Borissov, who attended the Visegrad meeting in Prague, opposed the Visegrad plan, and told its hosts: “I don’t shut my borders.”

Geopolitical disorder

The same diplomat told EurActiv that the refugee crisis could “turn a geopolitical fragility into a geopolitical disorder”.

“There will be a destabilisation of the wider region of the Western Balkans, as well as the Mediterranean Sea. There are many black holes and sources of war there […] once we pretended that we were ignoring them, but suddenly these countries will be exporting their destabilization in our heart,” he said.

France’s “thin voice”

Another EU diplomat told EurActiv that France’s silence over the refugee crisis was “problematic”.

“Paris is absent and it’s quite strange that it has such a thin voice,” the source noted.

EurActiv was informed that Paris was “reluctant if not against” the relocation scheme agreed on by EU leaders, and that after the Paris terrorist attacks, whenever the issue arises, it invoked security concerns.

Good news thus far from Poland.

But I am still skeptical. Germany and it's fellow useful idiots are going to start putting the screws to the Viseguard group. They are going to need wills of steel to make it through without taking any migrants. I fully expect some of the Western European countries to push their madness in everyway possible (media, laws, finances, promoting pro refugees elements within).

If in five years from now, the Viseguard group still does not have any migrants, then they will have won.

The VG position could be solidified as soon as this year. Another large attack or two and a duplication of Cologne somewhere else in Western Europe, will be all the ammunition they need to close the border with Greece and never have to take any migrants.

Meet Iceland's first Syrian refugees.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnew...eezer.html

They have embraced their new Icelandic identity...says the article.Fucking hell,I have no words

(02-20-2016 12:47 AM)uncledick Wrote:  Good news thus far from Poland.

But I am still skeptical. Germany and it's fellow useful idiots are going to start putting the screws to the Viseguard group. They are going to need wills of steel to make it through without taking any migrants. I fully expect some of the Western European countries to push their madness in everyway possible (media, laws, finances, promoting pro refugees elements within).

If in five years from now, the Viseguard group still does not have any migrants, then they will have won.

The VG position could be solidified as soon as this year. Another large attack or two and a duplication of Cologne somewhere else in Western Europe, will be all the ammunition they need to close the border with Greece and never have to take any migrants.

Agreed. I'll also add that Visegrad group benefits greatly from support from abroad:

1) The UK supports them as a useful counterweight and ally against Franco-German ambitions of building a Berlin-dominated European empire;

2) The USA supports them because of Washington's geopolitical agenda of encircling Russia. US energy lobby is currently heavily invested in promoting the idea of connecting countries on the Baltic-Adriatic axis. The goal of this is to thwart Russian dominance of the European energy market by introducing a viable alternative in the form of Qatari and Saudi oil.

The possible Trump victory in the US presidential election and the prospect of him establishing a diplomatic bromance with Putin could mean an end to 2), which would leave the UK as the sole ally of the Visegrad group countries. It will be interesting to see how political events will unfold in this case.

(02-20-2016 07:53 AM)Khan Wrote:  [quote='uncledick' pid='1226467' dateline='1455947248']


The possible Trump victory in the US presidential election and the prospect of him establishing a diplomatic bromance with Putin could mean an end to 2), which would leave the UK as the sole ally of the Visegrad group countries. It will be interesting to see how political events will unfold in this case.

This wont happen. USA signed the Budapest memorandum in 1994 guaranteeing the sovereignty of Ukrainian borders, together with the UK and Russia. Trump wont be able to ignore this document and lift sanctions against Russia single handedly without such a law being passed in US Senate and this is impossible.

Also,the annexation of Ukraine is the first episode of post WW2 Europe when a country seized a territory of another country. The inviolability of borders is a fundamental principle of post 1945 Europe.Making a pass towards Putin is like making a deal with Hitler in 1939. Trump is not stupid to do this.

Quote:The inviolability of borders is a fundamental principle of post 1945 Europe

What is 'Kosovo'? USA government has already proven it's ready to break this 'fundamental principle' when it's convenient for the liberals, plutocrats and neocohens in power.

(02-20-2016 10:29 AM)Krieg Wrote:  This wont happen. USA signed the Budapest memorandum in 1994 guaranteeing the sovereignty of Ukrainian borders, together with the UK and Russia. Trump wont be able to ignore this document and lift sanctions against Russia single handedly without such a law being passed in US Senate and this is impossible.

Here are the provisions of the memorandum from Wikipedia, let's assume they are correct:

Quote:1. Respect Belarusian, Kazakh and Ukrainian independence and sovereignty and the existing borders.
2. Refrain from the threat or use of force against Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine.
3. Refrain from using economic pressure on Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine in order to influence its politics.
4. Seek immediate United Nations Security Council action to provide assistance to Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine, "if Belarus/Kazakhstan/Ukraine should become a victim of an act of aggression or an object of a threat of aggression in which nuclear weapons are used".
5. Refrain from the use of nuclear arms against Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine.
6. Consult with one another if questions arise regarding these commitments

By sponsoring the Euromaidan revolution in 2014, which resulted in the overthrow of Ukraine's legitimate government, the US government violated provisions 1,3, and 6. This alone makes the memorandum null and void.

Besides, lifting sanctions isn't the only way Trump can warm up relations with Russia.

Quote:The inviolability of borders is a fundamental principle of post 1945 Europe.

Like johnfortunebg said, this is true for as long as it suits the great powers. In the end, force is the only thing that matters in international relations.

Quote:Making a pass towards Putin is like making a deal with Hitler in 1939.

Why is that?

(02-20-2016 12:39 PM)Khan Wrote:  

(02-20-2016 10:29 AM)Krieg Wrote:  This wont happen. USA signed the Budapest memorandum in 1994 guaranteeing the sovereignty of Ukrainian borders, together with the UK and Russia. Trump wont be able to ignore this document and lift sanctions against Russia single handedly without such a law being passed in US Senate and this is impossible.

Here are the provisions of the memorandum from Wikipedia, let's assume they are correct:

Quote:1. Respect Belarusian, Kazakh and Ukrainian independence and sovereignty and the existing borders.
2. Refrain from the threat or use of force against Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine.
3. Refrain from using economic pressure on Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine in order to influence its politics.
4. Seek immediate United Nations Security Council action to provide assistance to Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine, "if Belarus/Kazakhstan/Ukraine should become a victim of an act of aggression or an object of a threat of aggression in which nuclear weapons are used".
5. Refrain from the use of nuclear arms against Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine.
6. Consult with one another if questions arise regarding these commitments

By sponsoring the Euromaidan revolution in 2014, which resulted in the overthrow of Ukraine's legitimate government, the US government violated provisions 1,3, and 6. This alone makes the memorandum null and void.

Besides, lifting sanctions isn't the only way Trump can warm up relations with Russia.

US involvement in Ukrainian anti-governmental protests was simply superficial.This bull about "americans supporting maidan" is good for grandmothers in Russian somewhere, it is laughable for anyone serious. Nobody,not one journalist has found any evidence of fact of 1)american financially backing protesters 2)americans involved in logistics of protests. Taking into account that this is the main theme on Russian TV-I would expect some journalist to dig this out. Nothing so far.

Just fyi some facts: Ukrainian government was not overthrown. Yanukovich simply ran (with millions of stolen assets) away scared for life (but mainly-stolen assets).Subsequently,the parliament voted him out,with his own party voting out unanimously. Not even one law was broken, absolutely constitutional.Yanukovich lives in Rostov now, enjoying his retirement and stolen billions (which belong to Ukraine).

EU did not support this scenario. 2 days before Yanukovich disappeared Sikorsky and Seteinmaier were offering him and opposition to sit down and make a deal (the main issue was the constitution which Yanukovich changed without referendum and other,smaller, things).

These are the facts.It is also a fallacy.All this is irrelevant to Budapest agreement, US cant simply wipe their arse with the Bidapest agreement.It will be a precedent.

Anyways, as a president Trump wont have any bromance with Putin. Too many factors involved. GW Bush tried btw.

(02-20-2016 11:46 AM)johnfortunebg Wrote:  

Quote:The inviolability of borders is a fundamental principle of post 1945 Europe

What is 'Kosovo'? USA government has already proven it's ready to break this 'fundamental principle' when it's convenient for the liberals, plutocrats and neocohens in power.

Kosovo is an independent state.I don't remember Kosovo being occupied by,say,Albania and people of Kosovo voting in a fake "referendum" with gunmen around every voting station.

If independence is what people Crimean want-I think they have their right to have one.But it is not Russia.

You see if you make a referendum about joining Germany in Russian province of Kaliningrad-I guarantee that 99% of Russians will vote "yes".

(02-20-2016 02:06 PM)Krieg Wrote:  US involvement in Ukrainian anti-governmental protests was simply superficial.This bull about "americans supporting maidan" is good for grandmothers in Russian somewhere, it is laughable for anyone serious. Nobody,not one journalist has found any evidence of fact of 1)american financially backing protesters 2)americans involved in logistics of protests. Taking into account that this is the main theme on Russian TV-I would expect some journalist to dig this out. Nothing so far.

Why bother digging? The visit of John McCain to Kiev and his support to Euromaidan revolutionaries is evidence enough. A senior US senator and a leading advocate of US military intervention around the world doesn't fly his ass to a foreign country to lend support to revolutionaries attempting a government overthrow out of pure boredom. Where McCain steps foot, either State Department money or US troops soon follow.

I won't even bother mentioning millions of US $ that poured to the pockets of Ukrainian NGOs and 'civil rights groups' before the revolution, which is a fact no one even attempted to hide. You'll probably say it has nothing to do with politics or the revolution.

Krieg Wrote:Just fyi some facts: Ukrainian government was not overthrown. Yanukovich simply ran (with millions of stolen assets) away scared for life (but mainly-stolen assets).Subsequently,the parliament voted him out,with his own party voting out unanimously. Not even one law was broken, absolutely constitutional.Yanukovich lives in Rostov now, enjoying his retirement and stolen billions (which belong to Ukraine).

Your statements about the Ukrainian government not being overthrown and Yanukovich running away scared for his life contradict one another. If it wasn't a violent overthrow, why was he scared for his life then?

Krieg Wrote:EU did not support this scenario. 2 days before Yanukovich disappeared Sikorsky and Seteinmaier were offering him and opposition to sit down and make a deal (the main issue was the constitution which Yanukovich changed without referendum and other,smaller, things).

Same as above, billions of Euros given by the EU to the new Ukrainian government after the overthrow are clear evidence of EU support.

So, let's see and recap:

To your assertion

Quote:The inviolability of borders is a fundamental principle of post 1945 Europe

I respond with:

Quote:What is 'Kosovo'? USA government has already proven it's ready to break this 'fundamental principle' when it's convenient for the liberals, plutocrats and neocohens in power.

and you answer:

Quote:Kosovo is an independent state.I don't remember Kosovo being occupied by,say,Albania and people of Kosovo voting in a fake "referendum" with gunmen around every voting station.

I'll let others decide on the logical consistency of your statements. 'Inviolability of borders' has a clear meaning you apparently are not able to grasp.

(02-20-2016 02:15 PM)Krieg Wrote:  I don't remember Kosovo being occupied by, say, Albania

Then you have no long-term memory or historic knowledge. Because undeniably, Kosovo is a historic Serbian land, having been overrun by islamic migrants from Albania.

So, yes, Kosovo is de facto an occupied land. Kosovo is what Belgium will probably become in 20 years: a new Islamic puppet state (at the heart of Europe)...

In any case, I might technically agree with your sentence: "I don't remember Kosovo being occupied by, say, Albania", but, on the other hand, one can't deny that: Kosovo is being occupied by AlbaniaNS

(02-20-2016 05:55 PM)Going strong Wrote:  

(02-20-2016 02:15 PM)Krieg Wrote:  I don't remember Kosovo being occupied by, say, Albania

Then you have no long-term memory or historic knowledge. Because undeniably, Kosovo is a historic Serbian land, having been overrun by islamic migrants from Albania.

So, yes, Kosovo is de facto an occupied land. Kosovo is what Belgium will probably become in 20 years: a new Islamic puppet state (at the heart of Europe)...

In any case, I might technically agree with your sentence: "I don't remember Kosovo being occupied by, say, Albania", but, on the other hand, one can't deny that: Kosovo is being occupied by AlbaniaNS

A street in Brussels:


We've been a minority there for a while now, literally 1 out of 4 citizens is Muslim there. I can't imagine what it will be like in a few decades...

Our second biggest city Antwerp isn't that much better either. Luckily Ghent, the most beautiful city in the country but also very leftist, isn't that bad overall but that city is on its way too.

(02-20-2016 03:14 PM)Khan Wrote:  [quote='Krieg' pid='1226784' dateline='1455995181']
US involvement in Ukrainian anti-governmental protests was simply superficial.This bull about "americans supporting maidan" is good for grandmothers in Russian somewhere, it is laughable for anyone serious. Nobody,not one journalist has found any evidence of fact of 1)american financially backing protesters 2)americans involved in logistics of protests. Taking into account that this is the main theme on Russian TV-I would expect some journalist to dig this out. Nothing so far.

Why bother digging? The visit of John McCain to Kiev and his support to Euromaidan revolutionaries is evidence enough. A senior US senator and a leading advocate of US military intervention around the world doesn't fly his ass to a foreign country to lend support to revolutionaries attempting a government overthrow out of pure boredom. Where McCain steps foot, either State Department money or US troops soon follow.

I dont see a problem with mcCain visiting Ukraine. Ukraine is in a state of war with russia and McCain does not like Russians. Enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Quote:I won't even bother mentioning millions of US $ that poured to the pockets of Ukrainian NGOs and 'civil rights groups' before the revolution, which is a fact no one even attempted to hide. You'll probably say it has nothing to do with politics or the revolution.

Evidence please.Names,accounts,how the money was spent.

Krieg Wrote:Just fyi some facts: Ukrainian government was not overthrown. Yanukovich simply ran (with millions of stolen assets) away scared for life (but mainly-stolen assets).Subsequently,the parliament voted him out,with his own party voting out unanimously. Not even one law was broken, absolutely constitutional.Yanukovich lives in Rostov now, enjoying his retirement and stolen billions (which belong to Ukraine).

Your statements about the Ukrainian government not being overthrown and Yanukovich running away scared for his life contradict one another. If it wasn't a violent overthrow, why was he scared for his life then?

He was mainly scared of prosecution.He has embezzled billions and prison was inevitable.He is somewhere at the level of African dictators, Bokassa or Idi Amin. Ukrainian prosecution is still waiting for him.

This was his palace.This shit can go well in Russia with Putin owing up to 20 illegal residences but not in Ukraine.

Krieg Wrote:EU did not support this scenario. 2 days before Yanukovich disappeared Sikorsky and Seteinmaier were offering him and opposition to sit down and make a deal (the main issue was the constitution which Yanukovich changed without referendum and other,smaller, things).

Same as above, billions of Euros given by the EU to the new Ukrainian government after the overthrow are clear evidence of EU support.

Fallacy again. Europe helps Ukraine to reform its institutions, Europe helps many more other countries, including Africa.Nothing wrong with it.You have also ignored my note about the official position of EU 2 days before Yanukovich disappeared.

But most importantly, why is it ok for Russia to finance its side in Ukraine (from infamous bribe to Yanukovich prior to revolution to its direct military involvement) and not ok for US and Europe to do the same?

If I as Ukrainian was to pick sides-I would pick a developed,technologically superior and transparent ally (Europe) rather then a poor,corrupt,militaristic dictatorship (Russia).It's saver.

Also you guys forget that Russia,as per 2015, is approx 15th economy of the world (down 5 positions from 2010).While Poland,only Poland, is #20. Russia is not doing well,it is bleeding.

Finally the conflict in Ukraine both in 2004 and 2014 was hardly a conflict between west and East as you guys like to think. It is simply a conflict between financial elites of Ukraine and Russia and also within the Ukraine (Donetsk clans vs Dnipropetrovsk clans). Europe and US just picked sides after the conflicts.In 2004 they picked Yushenko and lost as Yushenko appeared to bend under pressure of corruptiuon and Donetsk clan and allowed the return of Yanukovich and his people. Yanukovich had learned the lessons of 2004 and attempted to build a quasi dictatorship using Putin's model. This has backfired dramatically.

(02-20-2016 05:55 PM)Going strong Wrote:  

(02-20-2016 02:15 PM)Krieg Wrote:  I don't remember Kosovo being occupied by, say, Albania

Then you have no long-term memory or historic knowledge. Because undeniably, Kosovo is a historic Serbian land, having been overrun by islamic migrants from Albania.

So, yes, Kosovo is de facto an occupied land. Kosovo is what Belgium will probably become in 20 years: a new Islamic puppet state (at the heart of Europe)...

In any case, I might technically agree with your sentence: "I don't remember Kosovo being occupied by, say, Albania", but, on the other hand, one can't deny that: Kosovo is being occupied by AlbaniaNS

I am aware of the history of Kosovo. Also the present conflict started back in 1988.Serbia was given at least 22 years to sort that shit out.

If you ask my opinion-I obviously do not support the existence of Kosovo.But it is a different situation then Crimea and one wrong does not justify another one.Again how would you solve the Kosovo problem if you were the head of Serbia?

Even Tito was super careful about Kosovo,yet Miloshevich went poring petrol on that fire at full speed.The beginning of this documentary (from 3:00):





On personal level:I travelled Balkans and I have 0 sympathies to Serbia. They are mostly to blame for what happened to them.My favourite nation there is Croatia and I can see many similarities between the conflict there and current situation in Eastern Ukraine.Sometimes Putin repeats Miloshevich step by step.

(02-21-2016 05:03 AM)Krieg Wrote:  Putin owing up to 20 illegal residences

Don't want to derail, but what does this mean? What's an "illegal residence"?

(02-21-2016 05:48 AM)GlobalMan Wrote:  

(02-21-2016 05:03 AM)Krieg Wrote:  Putin owing up to 20 illegal residences

Don't want to derail, but what does this mean? What's an "illegal residence"?

According to Krieg, an illegal residence (in Eastern Europe) is any residence bought without the prior approval of Vic Nuland.

And so it begins in Spain:

Mònica Oltra (Compromís) viajará a Grecia para abordar el traslado de miles de refugiados a la Comunitat Valenciana. La vicepresidenta y consellera de Igualdad y Políticas Inclusivas, Mònica Oltra, viajará el próximo lunes a las islas griegas de Mitilene y Leros para supervisar con sus gobiernos regionales y locales el posible traslado de miles de refugiados a la Comunitat Valenciana.



The Vice President and Minister for Equality and Inclusive Policies, Monica Oltra, will travel next Monday to the Greek islands of Mytilene and Leros and oversee in collaboration with their regional and local governments the possible transfer of thousands of refugees to Valencia.

Exactly like I suspected what would happen after Podemos and its ilk increased its reach in the last Spanish elections. They openly Marxists and their political agenda includes open borders, healthcare and social benefits for migrants/refugees,
citizenship for migrants after three years (for South Americans after one year), heavy taxing of businesses, etc. you get the idea.

If you speak Spanish: The comment section in particular is pretty humorous as there are various references to her rather revolting appearance - 'Barbilla de bruja' (chin-of-a-witch) and 'cabeza de fosfoyeso' which I looked up and the closest I could find was 'cabeza de fosforo' (the part of the the match that ignites) - I would guess it's not a compliment.



Here she is with Iglesias of Podemos - that's pretty much all you need to know.

Only the latest example of the weakest cross-section of society having taking reign of the political process in Spain = the losers, social dependent losers, eternal victims, fucking communist share-it-alls. This shit is now going on all over Spain and they are doing their very best to outdo Merkel and thus swiftly deliver the death knell to a once proud and strong country with colonies over half the world.

Another woman attacked and robbed in the middle of the day in Cordoba by a group of Moroccans - she was thrown to the ground, kicked and beaten. It all happened out of the blue and all the Spaniards in the vicinity stood by and did nothing. Pretty much exactly like what we're seeing in Germany right now.

The article clearly was posted by an independent site and goes on to criticize the fact that the Spanish press is completely silent about this. The local police and the government are not taking action due to 'political correctness'.

The Islamic cancer is spreading all across Western Europe. It's going to get a lot worse - if you live in Europe train your women in basic self defense.

(02-21-2016 08:11 AM)redpillage Wrote:  

Dat chin, dat nose, dem weasel-eyes... she looks like the female Ted Cruz.

(02-21-2016 07:02 AM)Going strong Wrote:  

(02-21-2016 05:48 AM)GlobalMan Wrote:  

(02-21-2016 05:03 AM)Krieg Wrote:  Putin owing up to 20 illegal residences

Don't want to derail, but what does this mean? What's an "illegal residence"?

According to Krieg, an illegal residence (in Eastern Europe) is any residence bought without the prior approval of Vic Nuland.

Don't be ridiculous.Meaning-properties built and used by Putin indirectly through "ghost" companies.Although officially he denies their existence,of course.





Putin is Russian Bokassa. He does not forget about his friends neither.

This is where infamous jews Rotenbergs live.Best friends of Putin,and de-facto co-rulers of Russia.Started together in 90s. Rotenberg senior was a judo coach in a local gym,in 2 years after Putin's succession he has become one of the richest persons of Russian-Putin simple gave him contracts for state projects:



All this in a country where min salary is €75.

I dont care how much you guys like Putin (and being honest 90% about Putin and Russia on this forum is absolute bullshit far from reality) but despite the current state of affairs between Ukraine and Russia I wish only prosperity to Russian people and Putin clearly stays on its way.

(02-21-2016 08:11 AM)redpillage Wrote:  And so it begins in Spain:

Mònica Oltra (Compromís) viajará a Grecia para abordar el traslado de miles de refugiados a la Comunitat Valenciana. La vicepresidenta y consellera de Igualdad y Políticas Inclusivas, Mònica Oltra, viajará el próximo lunes a las islas griegas de Mitilene y Leros para supervisar con sus gobiernos regionales y locales el posible traslado de miles de refugiados a la Comunitat Valenciana.



The Vice President and Minister for Equality and Inclusive Policies, Monica Oltra, will travel next Monday to the Greek islands of Mytilene and Leros and oversee in collaboration with their regional and local governments the possible transfer of thousands of refugees to Valencia.

Exactly like I suspected what would happen after Podemos and its ilk increased its reach in the last Spanish elections. They openly Marxists and their political agenda includes open borders, healthcare and social benefits for migrants/refugees,
citizenship for migrants after three years (for South Americans after one year), heavy taxing of businesses, etc. you get the idea.

If you speak Spanish: The comment section in particular is pretty humorous as there are various references to her rather revolting appearance - 'Barbilla de bruja' (chin-of-a-witch) and 'cabeza de fosfoyeso' which I looked up and the closest I could find was 'cabeza de fosforo' (the part of the the match that ignites) - I would guess it's not a compliment.



Here she is with Iglesias of Podemos - that's pretty much all you need to know.

Only the latest example of the weakest cross-section of society having taking reign of the political process in Spain = the losers, social dependent losers, eternal victims, fucking communist share-it-alls. This shit is now going on all over Spain and they are doing their very best to outdo Merkel and thus swiftly deliver the death knell to a once proud and strong country with colonies over half the world.

I actually spent some time reading Podemos programme. Pure horror.

He wants to open borders for refugees (completely)and give them passports in 2 years (while a french or american needs 10 years).He wants to re-installs the "violence against women" laws (when police had right to arrest man simply because a woman complained).He is the best friend of Venezuela,Iran and Putin-basically anyone who is against the evil west (acutally this will go well for some readers of this forum). He wants to install quotas for women.The list goes on and on.

I recommend to read their programme,especially the section about immigration.

Krieg, while I see what you're saying, I'd happily allow my national leader to have a huge residence (or 20) if he kept me safe from feminist totalitarianism, population replacement, globalist invasions and other nice things that we are increasingly enjoying here in the west. Remember that Putin isn't so loved because he's clean (because he obviously isn't), but because he does not actively hate his people like Obama, Zuckerberg, Hollande, Merkel & C.O. do.

Regarding Podemos, yeah they're disgusting cucks. I've said it before, but I hate how anti-EU and popular movements are more often than not leftist hiveminds and no one appreciates the few normal, centrist or moderately right ones (such as the Living Wall described in my sig).

(02-21-2016 09:37 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  Krieg, while I see what you're saying, I'd happily allow my national leader to have a huge residence (or 20) if he kept me safe from feminist totalitarianism, population replacement, globalist invasions and other nice things that we are increasingly enjoying here in the west. Remember that Putin isn't so loved because he's clean (because he obviously isn't), but because he does not actively hate his people like Obama, Zuckerberg, Hollande, Merkel & C.O. do.

First of all,Putin has not protected his people from foreign invasion.Russia is swamped with migration,I think this has been discussed in this tread numerous times with videos etc.

Secondly,you underestimate the importance of living in a safe,prosperous and democratic state. You see,Russia could be as developed as at least Poland-with a rule of law,reasonable infrastructure,etc.In reality the life for many russians is unbearable and juridical system is completely corrupt,if non existent. Any Chechen who is connected to Kadyrov or local government can kill you and will escape scot free. here is the example for you how things work in Russia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kushchevskaya_massacre

As I said,Russia could be a rich and prosperous state. The reality is that min salary in Russia atm is €75 while it is €245 in Romania-the poorest state of EU.

Also,although on paper feminism has no place in Russia-it is still quite matriarchal society.Just spend some time working in a Russian office-it is suffocating.

The only positive thing one can assign to Putin is the resistance to gay propaganda. But again,he is pursuing agenda here-portraying west as decadent and perverted as opposite to Russia which is not . Something among the lines of "we are poor and corrupt and they are rich but at least we are not gay".

This resistance to "gayfication" can be observed in any Central and eastern European state: Ukraine,Poland,Lithuania.It has nothing to do with Putin,it is cultural. Putin just used it in his interests, which happen to coincide with interests of any normal person.

Krieg, you really need to state your personal reasons for your fanatical anti-Putin stance. Are you Ukrainian from the West?

Otherwise people are going to assume you're a paid shill.