(02-22-2016 04:51 AM)Going strong Wrote:  

(02-22-2016 03:25 AM)dreambig Wrote:  ^^ Don't worry, if there is so much as two or three more rape cases in Japan by Turks they will all be deported. No worries there. Japan doesn't mess around with this stuff.

Japan doesn't mess around with this stuff, still, we just learned Japan allows Turkish men, or I should say, Turkish-passport bearing Afghans or Egyptians, to enter their country by plane, ask for refugee-status (even though Turkey is NOT a war-torn country), roam their streets and rape as pleased.

Turkish nationals can enter Japan for a variety of reasons. But unlike Europe, foreigners are actually closely monitored and visas checked regularly. You don't get to just stay in Japan because you feel like it. Immigration authorities are hardcore.

The point is that these guys were applying for refugee status. There is no way in hell that they would ever have been accepted. Case in point: Last year, Japan rejected 99% of applicants.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/01/ja...11926.html

Admittedly, the same shady NGOs are presently trying to pressure the country into accepting more refugees, but so far the government is holding firm. I'd estimate that 95% of the populace would oppose such a move. Anyway, Asian countries are fine. Let's get back to the more pressing topic of Europe and potentially the US.

Taken from France24, who I had thought were reasonably objective, but they go ahead and publish this with no mention of the motives of Bertelsmann who are behind the study!
Disappointing to say the least.
Has every news organisation in Europe (bar Breitbart) been paid off to subtly, and sometimes not so subtly, promote and push the religion of Globalism onto the masses?

http://www.france24.com/en/20160222-clos...vrit=66745


Closing borders would cost EU 470 bn euros over 10 years: study

BERLIN (AFP) -
Ending Europe's open-borders Schengen agreement would cost EU economies at least 470 billion euros ($520 billion) over a decade, according to a German study published Monday.

The impact on trade flows would also cost major trade partners the United States and China tens of billions of euros each, said the study by the Prognos institute on behalf of the Bertelsmann Foundation.

The study was published as several European countries have reintroduced provisional border controls to stem a mass influx of refugees, the greatest wave of people seeking asylum since World War II.

"If Europe's borders are closed again, this would put even more pressure on Europe's already weak growth," said Aart De Geus, chairman of the Bertelsmann Foundation. "In the end it's the people who would pay the bill."

Longer delays at borders would force up warehouse storage and personnel costs for companies as just-in-time deliveries and reliably speedy goods flows could no longer be assured, the study said.

Under an "optimistic" scenario, production costs in the EU would rise by one percent, driving down gross domestic product (GDP) for the EU by 470 billion euros from 2016 to 2025, it said.

The bill would be 77 billion euros for Germany and over 80 billion euros for France.

The downturn in trade and rising prices would cost the US economy 91 billion euros over 10 years, and China 95 billion euros by driving up import prices under this scenario, it said.

Under a "pessimistic" scenario, production costs would rise by an average of three percent. This would result in extra costs to the EU of 1.4 trillion euros, including of 235 billion euros for Germany and 244 billion for France, said the study.

The Schengen area allows passport-free travel through 26 countries, most of them in the EU, and is considered as one of the major European achievements on unity

Quote:BERLIN (AFP) -
Ending Europe's open-borders Schengen agreement would cost EU economies at least 470 billion euros ($520 billion) over a decade, according to a German study published Monday.

Peanuts compared to the amount France will spend on providing for the Muzzies.

Quote:The impact on trade flows would also cost major trade partners the United States and China tens of billions of euros each, said the study by the Prognos institute on behalf of the Bertelsmann Foundation.

Why would closing the borders to Muslims nations affect trade with the non-Muslim ones?

What a joke of a study.

When discussing this whole charade, never forget that it continues (partly) because plutocrats are able to use it to steal money from the taxes we pay:
The Chief of the Bulgarian refugee agency was sacked because he was ordering food for refugees on higher than market prices, without following appropriate public procurement procedures

Quote:I'm hoping that the corporate sector in Germany will have some sway in not letting the entire country go to shit.

You mean the same corrupt, ideologically brainwashed cucks that want to use this as an excuse to abolish the minimum wage in Germany because it hinders 'integration of refugees on the labor market'?

(02-22-2016 10:10 AM)johnfortunebg Wrote:  When discussing this whole charade, never forget that it continues (partly) because plutocrats are able to use it to steal money from the taxes we pay:
The Chief of the Bulgarian refugee agency was sacked because he was ordering food for refugees on higher than market prices, without following appropriate public procurement procedures

Quote:I'm hoping that the corporate sector in Germany will have some sway in not letting the entire country go to shit.

You mean the same corrupt, ideologically brainwashed cucks that want to use this as an excuse to abolish the minimum wage in Germany because it hinders 'integration of refugees on the labor market'?

Is it that simple though? Are all corporate leaders in Germany and across Western Europe brainwashed Globalist useful idiots?
Or worse that that, knowingly shilling for the downfall of Western Europe?
Neither is good, but the first one at least is less nihilistic, but no less depressing.
It still makes no sense though, wishing for the destruction of your people.... and for what? cheaper labour?
Or has it become so vitally important for these companies to virtue signal to the masses about their "tolerance", that they simply do not think or do not care about the consequences of allowing unassimilable invaders in to eat your seed crop and intimidate your countrymen and women?
Are we, are they really so completely blind to reality?
Blind to the reality of inviting/allowing in hordes from the third world to destabilise and endanger your country's future?
I can't believe it could be so....or maybe I'm the naïve one here?

Norwegian government expects/fears a Swedish collapse:

Quote:Norway is ready to abandon the Geneva Convention if Sweden collapses. The border will be closed by force, and Swedish refugees will be rejected without the possibility to seek asylum. "We are prepared for the worst," says Prime Minister Erna Solberg.

There is such an imminent danger that the Schengen agreement, and the asylum system in Sweden will break down, that Norway must have an emergency legislation in place in case it happens, believes Norway's Prime Minister Erna Solberg. Therefore, she has crafted a law that will allow for Norwegian authorities to reject asylum seekers who do not come directly from a conflict area.

http://speisa.com/modules/articles/index...apses.html

(02-22-2016 10:32 AM)Roosh Wrote:  Norwegian government expects/fears a Swedish collapse:

Quote:Norway is ready to abandon the Geneva Convention if Sweden collapses. The border will be closed by force, and Swedish refugees will be rejected without the possibility to seek asylum. "We are prepared for the worst," says Prime Minister Erna Solberg.

There is such an imminent danger that the Schengen agreement, and the asylum system in Sweden will break down, that Norway must have an emergency legislation in place in case it happens, believes Norway's Prime Minister Erna Solberg. Therefore, she has crafted a law that will allow for Norwegian authorities to reject asylum seekers who do not come directly from a conflict area.

http://speisa.com/modules/articles/index...apses.html

Norway government expects Sweden to suffer total societal collapse from third world refugees and plans emergency measures as a result of the same.

However, Norway government continues to allow massive numbers of third world refugees into Norway.

Hmm, there is something puzzling here, but I can't quite put my finger on it.

(02-22-2016 10:23 AM)amity Wrote:  

(02-22-2016 10:10 AM)johnfortunebg Wrote:  When discussing this whole charade, never forget that it continues (partly) because plutocrats are able to use it to steal money from the taxes we pay:
The Chief of the Bulgarian refugee agency was sacked because he was ordering food for refugees on higher than market prices, without following appropriate public procurement procedures

Quote:I'm hoping that the corporate sector in Germany will have some sway in not letting the entire country go to shit.

You mean the same corrupt, ideologically brainwashed cucks that want to use this as an excuse to abolish the minimum wage in Germany because it hinders 'integration of refugees on the labor market'?

Is it that simple though? Are all corporate leaders in Germany and across Western Europe brainwashed Globalist useful idiots?
Or worse that that, knowingly shilling for the downfall of Western Europe?
Neither is good, but the first one at least is less nihilistic, but no less depressing.
It still makes no sense though, wishing for the destruction of your people.... and for what? cheaper labour?
Are we, are they really so completely blind to reality?
Blind to the reality of inviting/allowing in hordes from the third world to destabilise and endanger your country's future?
I can't believe it could be so....or maybe I'm the naïve one here?

See, this is actually the problem with the world. If someone who frequent RVF still get stuck in denial, how hopeless the average cucks are?

Dude, I need to spit it out for you: the rich corporate leaders dont give a shit about you or the nation. In fact they want to demolish the nation state as much as possible.

Roosh explained it better so I wont repeat it here: they are pushing a depopulation agenda, or at least population replacement. If you think "but but but then there will be less people buying their shit". Well no shit Sherlock, because having a smaller but more docile slave population is wayyyyyyyyy more profitable than having a large base of customers who have agency. Remember that the most prosperous societies in history make extensive use of slaves, sometimes even outnumbering their masters.

Because then they dont even need to sell stuffs to anyone, they will just simply sit on a pile of gold and free labour. Why the hell pay someone to take care of your Ferrari when you can just force the fucker to work it for free, and while he's at it, also plough the field and work the mine too?


I worked for and met one of the richest men in France and though the guy owns a large chunk of Paris and other cities it is nothing compared to the properties he has outside France. The only way he can improve benefits now its to figure out how to make people work for free, because there's only so much Louis Vuitton bags you can sell to people.

People and especially those in Europe need to wake the fuck up and realize how bad it is. A girl I know keeps arguing that France will stay France, but she is also the type who was totally shocked that people would rape a beautiful women in the streets so yeah.

Quote:Norwegian government expects/fears a Swedish collapse:

Quote:
Norway is ready to abandon the Geneva Convention if Sweden collapses. The border will be closed by force, and Swedish refugees will be rejected without the possibility to seek asylum. "We are prepared for the worst," says Prime Minister Erna Solberg.

There is such an imminent danger that the Schengen agreement, and the asylum system in Sweden will break down, that Norway must have an emergency legislation in place in case it happens, believes Norway's Prime Minister Erna Solberg. Therefore, she has crafted a law that will allow for Norwegian authorities to reject asylum seekers who do not come directly from a conflict area.

http://speisa.com/modules/articles/index...apses.html

See, this is the kind of stuff I was talking about...You guys seriously think France/Spain/Italy/whatever will accept authentic German refugees when shit go down? Its every fucking man (or country, or whats left of it) for himself.

(02-22-2016 07:45 AM)dreambig Wrote:  

(02-22-2016 04:51 AM)Going strong Wrote:  

(02-22-2016 03:25 AM)dreambig Wrote:  ^^ Don't worry, if there is so much as two or three more rape cases in Japan by Turks they will all be deported. No worries there. Japan doesn't mess around with this stuff.

Japan doesn't mess around with this stuff, still, we just learned Japan allows Turkish men, or I should say, Turkish-passport bearing Afghans or Egyptians, to enter their country by plane, ask for refugee-status (even though Turkey is NOT a war-torn country), roam their streets and rape as pleased.

Turkish nationals can enter Japan for a variety of reasons. But unlike Europe, foreigners are actually closely monitored and visas checked regularly. You don't get to just stay in Japan because you feel like it. Immigration authorities are hardcore.

The point is that these guys were applying for refugee status.

I would say, the point is, these guys were allowed to stay while their obviously bogus application for refugee status was studied by some administration.

Applying for some bullshit refugee status is (unfortunately) enough to be allowed to stay, during a very lengthy process (months or years before a decision is handed)...

In normal, intelligent countries, when one applies for refugee-status with a passport from a non-war-torn country (like Turkey), one is immediately denied (on the spot, at the counter of the local administration) and escorted to the airport for legal deportation...

@Going strong Point taken. I don't doubt that what you say is true, but fuck me, that means it's even worse than I thought.

(02-22-2016 11:00 AM)amity Wrote:  @Going strong Point taken. I don't doubt that what you say is true, but fuck me, that means it's even worse than I thought.

Well, I do confirm that it's the case in Western Europe: one just has to submit a grotesque, bogus application for refugee status, and 1 year or 2 will go by before a decision (refugee status denied, hopefully) is reached and made public and biding by the relevant administration.

And that's not all: even when a refugee status denied stamp has been put on your dossier, heck, who's going to track and catch you and bring you to a plane and forcefully climb you aboard said plane? You guessed it: No-bo-dy!

So basically, once a false refugee-rapefugee is inside Western Europe, he won't get out ever. Unless, if and when we have a popular and military uprising, but meanwhile, all false-refugees are free to roam our streets as they please, with or without papers. Nobody's going to catch them.

Quote:Norway is ready to abandon the Geneva Convention if Sweden collapses. The border will be closed by force, and Swedish refugees will be rejected without the possibility to seek asylum. "We are prepared for the worst," says Prime Minister Erna Solberg.

There is such an imminent danger that the Schengen agreement, and the asylum system in Sweden will break down, that Norway must have an emergency legislation in place in case it happens, believes Norway's Prime Minister Erna Solberg. Therefore, she has crafted a law that will allow for Norwegian authorities to reject asylum seekers who do not come directly from a conflict area.

http://speisa.com/modules/articles/index...apses.html

However, measures like this are only valid if ALL of these conditions are met:

A) people can't just claim that they're Syrian or underage and be taken at their word,
B) the entire border is guarded, not just the border crossings
C) the border guards are authorized to use deadly force if not obeyed
D) anyone sneaking in is punished by actual prison, not a 5-star resort vacation

Norwegians don't have it in themselves to actually implement this until it's already too late. Hungarians maybe, but Norwegians no way.

(02-22-2016 07:19 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  Its gonna be even worse if shit hits the fan in Europe, you really think your average German Joe and Jane can do that?

No I don't think that, but you are drawing a real crass picture of situations you cannot predict although the history showed that in such scenarios civil war rose etc.

(02-22-2016 11:48 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  Norwegians don't have it in themselves to actually implement this until it's already too late. Hungarians maybe, but Norwegians no way.

I woudln't say "maybe". I think as long as Orban line is in power, they will resist firmly.

I mean, at the moment when all cameras of the world were on Hungarian border, they brought riot police and opened massive fire of tear gas and rubber bullets on immigrants and routed them in second. Soros' could do nothing but bitch about it

Large parts of Berlin becoming no-go zones:

(02-22-2016 03:25 AM)dreambig Wrote:  ^^ Don't worry, if there is so much as two or three more rape cases in Japan by Turks they will all be deported. No worries there. Japan doesn't mess around with this stuff.

Remember in October when Turkey held and election and all the Turks in Tokyo showed up and then started a savage beatdown on each other? There is certainly enough of them in Tokyo/Yokohama area to be well known and very well stereotyped by the Japanese. Not a single person, media or civilian, was surprised they tried to kill one another in broad daylight. To most Japanese, thats just what middle Eastern people do.

I know some, they work mostly for the Yakuza hacking apart Japanese cars to send overseas. Some have restaurants and Japanese wives. Most are wise enough to stay very far under the radar if they are not Yak connected.

Also, many Japanese men will not even fuck the same hookers as foreigners, so I imagine these same hardliners are sharpening their swords daily just waiting for some type of revenge.

(02-22-2016 10:37 AM)Fast Eddie Wrote:  

(02-22-2016 10:32 AM)Roosh Wrote:  Norwegian government expects/fears a Swedish collapse:

Quote:Norway is ready to abandon the Geneva Convention if Sweden collapses. The border will be closed by force, and Swedish refugees will be rejected without the possibility to seek asylum. "We are prepared for the worst," says Prime Minister Erna Solberg.

There is such an imminent danger that the Schengen agreement, and the asylum system in Sweden will break down, that Norway must have an emergency legislation in place in case it happens, believes Norway's Prime Minister Erna Solberg. Therefore, she has crafted a law that will allow for Norwegian authorities to reject asylum seekers who do not come directly from a conflict area.

http://speisa.com/modules/articles/index...apses.html

Norway government expects Sweden to suffer total societal collapse from third world refugees and plans emergency measures as a result of the same.

However, Norway government continues to allow massive numbers of third world refugees into Norway.

Hmm, there is something puzzling here, but I can't quite put my finger on it.

Understand this: any time a government votes itself "emergency powers", it will probably not be used for the emergency you think it was meant to cover.

This summer's gonna be rough like an old worn out Tibetan vagina.

^ still, got the

This video has already been posted in this thread (I couldn't find where exactly). I shared it with a family member today and she went from being more or less apolitical to asking me "what can we do to stop this?". Among other things I was able to make her see how much the mainstream media is manipulating us and converted her to a Trump vote.

She even spontaneously started asking me about guns and making sure we can still get them here in the U.S. Once again I am reminded that there is nothing on this planet more ruthlessly practical and self-interested than a normal, healthy female.

In any case I can attest to the power of this video to "convert" non-believers and I think it needs to be shared widely.

France, Germany, and Sweden really don't deserve to be sovereign nations at this point. They don't have what it takes to be a nation and are dangerous to the rest of the civilized world.

They are sponsoring new terrorist states.

(02-22-2016 06:50 PM)Samseau Wrote:  Large parts of Berlin becoming no-go zones:

commented on this video earlier. while things have certainly gotten worse here, this video is a huge exaggeration. i live in exactly this area and have for years. this part of town isnt even the worst or most dangerous part of berlin at all, it just used to be filled with squatters and left wing types and now pick pockets come to take advantage of all the young tourists in the area. but the crime here is still very low. especially if you compare this to any major american city its like night and day different

(02-23-2016 01:36 AM)Chevalier De Seingalt Wrote:  



This video has already been posted in this thread (I couldn't find where exactly). I shared it with a family member today and she went from being more or less apolitical to asking me "what can we do to stop this?". Among other things I was able to make her see how much the mainstream media is manipulating us and converted her to a Trump vote.

She even spontaneously started asking me about guns and making sure we can still get them here in the U.S. Once again I am reminded that there is nothing on this planet more ruthlessly practical and self-interested than a normal, healthy female.

In any case I can attest to the power of this video to "convert" non-believers and I think it needs to be shared widely.

That's great that you're helping to wake people up to reality, particularly women, who are so prone to peer pressure and being swayed by emotional propaganda.
This video is I think one of the best any of us could use to show to friends, colleagues, family who are still rooted in blue pill land.
As it shows a normal looking women, who's clearly at her wit's end at her Government's complete abandonment of her and her town and indeed large sections of her country it could be said, to third worlders, many from a completely unassimilable and sometimes aggressive culture.
We need to share this video far and wide. As great as some of the stuff on Breitbart is or The Rebel or Infowars or some of Stefan Molyneux's stuff, the fact that this is a woman speaking, gives it that extra penetration, especially into female minds, and the more open minded end of liberals.

(02-22-2016 06:50 PM)Samseau Wrote:  Large parts of Berlin becoming no-go zones:

Counter to some of your points about total war in Europe Samseau, I believe this is the type of future the EU and UK is facing for a good while.

Berlin being the centre of the EU and doing absolutely nothing is what I expect. They're the truest form of politician; above the plebs, believes in their own importance and believes in one true identity. Safe behind armed guards and walls.

This openly brazen drug dealing isn't just kept to Berlin, nor to the soft EU countries like France and Germany etc. Go out on the town in any major city in the UK and you will be accosted by drug dealers who deal in everything. One city in particular I was in for a bit, Sheffield, had entire streets full of African drug dealers.

The same goes for Manchester and Birmingham. Drugs are everywhere and the intimidation real. The real problem is the drug dealers and public are able to get on with each other, its fucking bizarre because it has become accepted and normal.

The police were more concerned about drunk people and statistics than anything else.

Drug dealers are hard, tough opponents with no end to their trade. People who get drunk and lash out are easier to put down and destroy through the courts. It is also a very visible problem according to many.

(02-23-2016 02:32 AM)Cosmonaut Wrote:  

(02-22-2016 06:50 PM)Samseau Wrote:  Large parts of Berlin becoming no-go zones:

commented on this video earlier. while things have certainly gotten worse here, this video is a huge exaggeration. i live in exactly this area and have for years. this part of town isnt even the worst or most dangerous part of berlin at all, it just used to be filled with squatters and left wing types and now pick pockets come to take advantage of all the young tourists in the area. but the crime here is still very low. especially if you compare this to any major american city its like night and day different

(02-23-2016 07:41 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  

(02-22-2016 06:50 PM)Samseau Wrote:  Large parts of Berlin becoming no-go zones:

Counter to some of your points about total war in Europe Samseau, I believe this is the type of future the EU and UK is facing for a good while.

Berlin being the centre of the EU and doing absolutely nothing is what I expect. They're the truest form of politician; above the plebs, believes in their own importance and believes in one true identity. Safe behind armed guards and walls.

This openly brazen drug dealing isn't just kept to Berlin, nor to the soft EU countries like France and Germany etc. Go out on the town in any major city in the UK and you will be accosted by drug dealers who deal in everything. One city in particular I was in for a bit, Sheffield, had entire streets full of African drug dealers.

The same goes for Manchester and Birmingham. Drugs are everywhere and the intimidation real. The real problem is the drug dealers and public are able to get on with each other, its fucking bizarre because it has become accepted and normal.

The police were more concerned about drunk people and statistics than anything else.

Drug dealers are hard, tough opponents with no end to their trade. People who get drunk and lash out are easier to put down and destroy through the courts. It is also a very visible problem according to many.

Strong denial from the Euros. I am starting to see a pattern of Euros who live in complete denial about the severity or rapid escalation of the problems entering their country.

Did you guys watch the video? The thefts, assaults, and rapes are rampant, yet even when arrested the judges do nothing.

This is 10x worse than any American city. Sure, we have crime, but the expectation here is if you fuck with the cops or get caught, you're a dead man. Doesn't matter if you're from the Middle East or have Black skin. Sure, the cops here will setup no-go zones, but if anyone actually gets caught you're looking at serious time behind bars. And we have the largest non-white prison population in the world to attest to this fact.

Meanwhile, Euroserfs cannot expect any protection by the police, except to get arrested if you happen to go drinking and enjoy a night out on the town.

Of course this ends in Civil War. You'll be fighting tooth and nail for survival as you become more and more outnumbered. Just look to the future of South Africa:

Quote:Ernst Roets, a leading Afrikaans campaigner from the AfriForum organisation, took me to a squatter camp outside the country's capital, Pretoria. A white squatter camp.

It has been set up on the property of a sympathetic white farmer and is called, optimistically, Sonskyn Hoekie - Sunshine Corner.

There are broken-down cars and bits of discarded furniture everywhere. Beyond the wooden shacks lie ditches and pools of dirty, stagnant water where mosquitoes breed. Two basic toilets serve the whole camp.

According to Roets there are 80 white squatter camps - many of them bigger than this - in the Pretoria area alone. Across South Africa as a whole he believes there could be as many as 400,000 poor whites in conditions like these.

The Euroserfs just keep living in denial, hoping things will change, but your inaction only guarantees your doom. Every day spent doing nothing is another day your enemies become more powerful and you become weaker, not that the Euroserfs are particularly powerful right now.

Eventually the Euroserfs will have to become just as violent and barbaric as the invading Muslims as society degenerates into a survival by the lowest common denominators.