(01-14-2016 05:46 PM)CleanSlate Wrote:  My plan tonight is to meet up with a hot Korean 7 from OKC for drinks.

But I'm feeling I rather watch TV and sleep. Actually secretly hoping she'll flake. Any of you guys ever feel this way, or is something seriously wrong with me?

Absolutely, there's times where I'm thinking in my head, "honestly I don't give a fuck if she shows, I could use some sleep, or I got shit to do"

Then I get a boner and show up to the date.

My 19 year old main girl had a big blow up at me the other night. We were at a local pub watching a friend of hers play and then hanging with them afterwards and another girl was hitting on me in front of her. She didn't say anything at the time but then when we were driving home she asked me if that girl had been hitting on me and when I said yes she went on this big tirade about how I make her feel so insecure and no other guy has ever made her feel like that before. She cited how I'm much more experienced than her (I'm 10 years older), I've talked about my ex's and sexual exploits in front of her and how that makes her feel like she's not good enough for me.

On paper that sounds like good dread game right? It's why I made sure to flirt back with that girl a bit in front of my main girl and why I acknowledged that she was hitting on me.

However I feel like it's gone a bit far, to the point that it's damaging the relationship, not assisting in keeping her around. She's brought it up before how insecure I make her feel and I thought it was a positive sign but I think I need to tone it down a bit as it's pushing her away.

Happens to me all the time Cleanslate.

A few times in the last month I've gotten a # off Tinder and then I just never text. Or maybe have a text conversation and then not get around to setting up a date. A big part of it is not being totally sold on the girl's pics. Other times I'm busy or just don't have the energy.

Jesus had one date flake today, she was 18 and didn't have a ride to the bowling alley, she was getting dropped off or uber there, made some lame ass excuse that her mom was in an accident.

Made last minute plans immediately with a girls on I matched on tinder this afternnon, that didn't work out. Good thing is we connected over the phone and she even promised to make it up to me saying I was interesting, sarcastic, and good to look at. She even said she was tired working on her house and "I'm all kinds of sweaty (and not the sexy type lol) She's a tiny 4'11 mexi girl with curves in the right places, downside is the short hair, kinda of hipsterish. It'll be a lock for next week.

Hit up another last minute but she had plans, cool thing is we connected about music and our childhood with it, she's a career whore latin girl, even better is she's got fake DD's and is getting brazilian butt lift, I can tell she definitely in demand of how she dropped "a friend" "an acquaintance" when talking about people. She's broke as fuck and couldn't drive to me tonight, of course wanting to save for the butt lift pay off.

So I fell back to my last and usual plan, hit up the 22 year old indian girl I'm banging. She bought me a box of condoms, much need. She's a ball buster for sure and I was a "no man" all night and she was bitching about in a teasing way, obviously I didn't relent and held the frame. I just realized, this bitch doesn't even moan or do much when we're fucking, I'm literally pounding away, choking, pulling hair. If she's on her back, she closes her eyes with a smile and just let's me do my thing. I like more animated girls, her doing that shit....is kind of a turn off.

Anyways we get into a discussion and I find out her parents think she's still a virgin I laughed out loud and told her her poor husband is going to think that as well. She laughed and agreed....goddamn women can diabolical. Obviously if they found out she was banging a dude who they didn't approve, she'd locked the fuck up.

Oh also, I went on a date olast sunday, but was sick and too lazy to write about that, I'll do a proper write up on that later, I feel like it's almost same stamped date, with all these girls nowadays. Just going through the motions, then get the bang.

On a better note the 19 year old slut that let's me do anything bought me this for xmas and gave it to me last Saturday.



Note: Not my bed or setup.

Speaking of that, I pimped out my room a little more, super nice big screen flat panel, a bad ass neon sign from the shop, new furniture from IKEA, and my room also looks bigger and more spacious.

Anyways it'll be fun to tease the fuck out of the 19 year old with it.

I plan on using it tomorrow on the personal trainer, I've been amping her up all week, since she owes me for fucking up on NYE. She even dropped a little sexting first, which surprised me, so it'll be a fun night.

Ended up meeting with the Korean. No bang, date went nowhere. I could tell right off the bat that she wasn't into me (put my hand on her upper arm when asking whether she preferred red or white wine and she recoiled a bit).

Thought I could try turning her around with game. We sit down and she sits like 3 feet away, with her purse on her side between us. I looked at her silly, motioned how she's sitting too far, and patted the seat area closer to me. She laughed and moved barely an inch closer to me.

I ran the best game I could, with travel/dhv stories, flirting, and strong eye contact. Nope. It was like being a running back slamming into a wall of 300-lb defensive linemen. Three and out, punt.

Next.

Had an interesting thing happen to me yesterday. I've been more active on meetup.com looking to expand my general social circle and I had signed up for a photography lecture that was to take place today. Since I'm heading out of town to visit family I cancelled my RSVP a few days ago and I get an unsolicited message through meetup from an Asian girl asking why I cancelled and how she was looking forward to meeting me. I was a little suspicious since I don't get a whole hell of a lot of unsolicited emails from women. So I figured why the hell not and I replied to her asking if we had met before. She assured me that we had not but she thought I was 'interesting' and wanted to get to know me.

At this point I shifted gears and treated her like a Tinder match and went for the number close. It took her a few hours to get back to me with the number and I had honestly thought I had heard the last from her. After getting the number we started texting but I could tell from her style of writing that she was very FOBish and many of her messages were accompanied by those annoying animated cartoon characters

Still, I plowed on and asked for additional photos of her and she sent me a full body shot and the typical car selfie and I have to say she's pretty damn hot, a high 7 to low 8. In her car selfie she was wearing blue contact lenses and for some reason my crazy girl/clinger spidey senses started screaming out to me.

Still confused as to what this girl is all about I pushed for the meetup. At first she said she's available anytime next week and a couple of texts later I suggested we meetup on Monday and she countered with a 'I'll have to get back to you'. At that point I've put her into the crazy/time waster category and went radio silent on her. This morning when I woke up I see another text from her saying 'GOOD NIGHT' but the letters were built using straight lines and there were about ten emoticons all over the place.

Number: Blocked

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@OTSC @Cleanslate seems like you guys got stuck with time wasters. Online bitches be crazy.

@Cleanslate,

Did you ask why she was being so distant/awkward? I'd loathe to be in a situation where I'm the only one putting forth an effort to make things work.

(01-15-2016 05:09 PM)~wrIghter~ Wrote:  @OTSC @Cleanslate seems like you guys got stuck with time wasters. Online bitches be crazy.

@Cleanslate,

Did you ask why she was being so distant/awkward? I'd loathe to be in a situation where I'm the only one putting forth an effort to make things work.

No, I almost asked but I didn't. Perhaps I should have, but I wasn't sure how to ask or frame it in a way that calls her out on this distant behavior without it being an admission of defeat.

Either way, DGAF.

(01-15-2016 05:34 PM)CleanSlate Wrote:  

(01-15-2016 05:09 PM)~wrIghter~ Wrote:  @OTSC @Cleanslate seems like you guys got stuck with time wasters. Online bitches be crazy.

@Cleanslate,

Did you ask why she was being so distant/awkward? I'd loathe to be in a situation where I'm the only one putting forth an effort to make things work.

No, I almost asked but I didn't. Perhaps I should have, but I wasn't sure how to ask or frame it in a way that calls her out on this distant behavior without it being an admission of defeat.

Either way, DGAF.

Interesting, how long was the date ? What was the venue (details would be nice)? Venue change ?

It's funny when a girl does that, my gut tells me to dip out asap. That happened to me with a mixed flip/mexican girl awhile ago at starbucks, of course I didn't listen and stayed. I never heard from her again, never planned on reaching out to her either.

(01-15-2016 05:51 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

(01-15-2016 05:34 PM)CleanSlate Wrote:  

(01-15-2016 05:09 PM)~wrIghter~ Wrote:  @OTSC @Cleanslate seems like you guys got stuck with time wasters. Online bitches be crazy.

@Cleanslate,

Did you ask why she was being so distant/awkward? I'd loathe to be in a situation where I'm the only one putting forth an effort to make things work.

No, I almost asked but I didn't. Perhaps I should have, but I wasn't sure how to ask or frame it in a way that calls her out on this distant behavior without it being an admission of defeat.

Either way, DGAF.

Interesting, how long was the date ? What was the venue (details would be nice)? Venue change ?

It's funny when a girl does that, my gut tells me to dip out asap. That happened to me with a mixed flip/mexican girl awhile ago at starbucks, of course I didn't listen and stayed. I never heard from her again, never planned on reaching out to her either.

Not that long. An hour, if that. Wine bar, got one drink. Sat outdoors at a booth/table. Was going to get a second round, but decided against it because of the vibe. I'd put more details, but I'm on mobile now.

Deleted my dating apps after reading the last Real Talk Session. Going to focus on work and fitness for now..and do cold approach when I'm out and about until I have my own spot (hopefully by summer).

@Kaotic for a second I was going to ask if she was lightbrite and petite, but you saw the one I went out with, ha. I'd definitely like to meet/date/smash more foreign chicks in the near future.

Met a creole girl last night. Kind of a mulatto look. Tall and she'd actually been a model a few years ago. Long black flowing hair.

She was almost too friendly, trying to take my arm as soon as we met up outside. We went in a local place and she got a double shot whisky neat. Very smart girl. She was telling me about several research papers she'd written and was majoring in neuro psych ( I think that's what it was ). She was friendly and articulate.

Her look, however, wasn't quite doing it for me. We took a short walk and when I suggested my nearby apartment, she was down. Pour wine. She takes her shoes off in there without me asking. Honestly, I don't like the way her feet look as I'm a big hands/feet guy ( along with other things )

We sit on the couch sipping our drinks and start watching a dvr'ed movie. She kept complimenting my looks and my personality. She would press her feet and legs against me. I was pleasant and joked with her but knew that, I just wasn't going to be into this girl. The physical attraction wasn't quite there and due to some recent success and other cuties in the pipeline, I'm not desperate for a lay.

I tell her I've got something early going on and hate to cut things short but I need to hit the sack after about 1/3 of the movie. Walk her halfway down to her car. Hug, kiss her head and send her on her way. Maybe a year or two ago I would have pushed it.

Now, I'm not at that place. I didn't feel like settling. Even for just a bang.

Dropped into Austin for the first time in half a year sober and looking around at what I'm seeing is representative of the population/competition I can clean house here.

Cheers be right back,

H

Stayed home tonight, I need to chill the fuck out and not drink and get rid of this cold.

I stayed home last night but the trainer girl came over, she brought lingerie, cookies, and a gag gift.

She definitely made it up to me, I think my second favorite position is picking up a girl by her ass and having her wrap her arms around my neck.

One of my plates bailed last minute tonight, which I didn't give a shit about, now I can just chill out at home, listen to my voice on the podcast haha.

I'm hoping a night in will cure this coughing which is a motherfucker.

It's been a week and a half out of the gym trying to shake this shit off. I really need to go back, but I know I'll feel like shit.

Had to get out of the house so went out dolo tonight to a local small club. Lot of couples and prospects didn't look good. Left after about 30 minutes. Didn't really stick it out and I felt like a newbie back in the game. I don't think I can deal with night game anymore. I'll probably stick to social circle as I get better quality. Not gonna lie I feel like a loser.

I used to have the drive and motivation for this. Now I'm like meh fuck that shit.

I did get a girl from tinder to call me today, supposed to hang out tomorrow. that's a solid lead. Times have changed, what's a player to do....

A new old friend got his degree this week, went out with him and some of his friends to celebrate over a few beers.

Had a great time. Met an art promoter thats friends with him. 32, tall, nice thick butt. We had some flirting going on. Should have asked her to come with me after the bar closed but couldnt get me to pull the trigger.

Will probably never see her again so why not?

Big 2 weeks ahead.

Gonna get my ride back from the work shop, register for semester 1, search for a new place & start up my business.

As for Game, I'm spinning one plate & hustling up some leads.

My motivation isn't that high really, I understand if do the above listed, I'll be swimming in tang all year.

Once you start waking up everyday at 6AM to go to the gym, by 22:00 the only thing you want to do is sleep, zero energy to do night game. What I have left is daygame and online.

On to become ripped this year.

I'm at a low point in my "game" education. I want out to 4 different bars tonight and none of the girls interested me. A few were interested in me, grabbing my arm, touching, etc, but they weren't very good looking and I was having an OK time just drinking my whiskey and relaxing. Im not sure if its me or the environment, but Im thinking the place Im at is far below par and I need to GTFO.

What is the litmus test for GTFO? Spend a few weeks going out and if it sucks, go for greener pastures? A couple of girls were into me, but they were bar fly types. I want something better than bar sluts. I assume most people here do.

I'm looking around these places and well to do Chinese guys seem to have good looking girls, the rest of the girls, average to below average looking girls, definitely not worth going after. Im in a 3rd/4th tier Chinese city. So while the number of people is large, the number of girls in most bars is surprisingly quite low and not high value - looks and my type.

Off to greener pastures I guess. Just like being in a 4th tier western city, the chicks their aren't worth the work, even if the work is minimal at best. The juice isn't worth the squeeze.

(01-17-2016 12:50 PM)ball dont lie Wrote:  I'm at a low point in my "game" education. I want out to 4 different bars tonight and none of the girls interested me. A few were interested in me, grabbing my arm, touching, etc, but they weren't very good looking and I was having an OK time just drinking my whiskey and relaxing. Im not sure if its me or the environment, but Im thinking the place Im at is far below par and I need to GTFO.

What is the litmus test for GTFO? Spend a few weeks going out and if it sucks, go for greener pastures? A couple of girls were into me, but they were bar fly types. I want something better than bar sluts. I assume most people here do.

I'm looking around these places and well to do Chinese guys seem to have good looking girls, the rest of the girls, average to below average looking girls, definitely not worth going after. Im in a 3rd/4th tier Chinese city. So while the number of people is large, the number of girls in most bars is surprisingly quite low and not high value - looks and my type.

Off to greener pastures I guess. Just like being in a 4th tier western city, the chicks their aren't worth the work, even if the work is minimal at best. The juice isn't worth the squeeze.

A few things.

-What are you saying to these girls when you approach?
-If the bar isn't working have you considered trying something else?
-If you can't pull in this city what makes you so sure you can pull in another city.

Granted I don't live in China, but game is still game. If you're really sure it's your city then send Suits or TravelerKai a PM and see what's what about your city, but I'd imagine they'd ask you the same questions I asked first as well.

What next:.....?

Met this chick from SA. Face is lacking, body is solid.
Took a cab from another city to meet me. I tried my best to remember the first date bang recipe so I ran with it:
Met at nice bar which was closing so walked to not so nice bar. Had a few drinks, she was drinking tequila neat. After an hour I ran the "its late, this place is closing, let's go back to my hotel and drink some more."

10 minutes later we're at my hotel, lights dim, making out. Take her top off and I'm sucking on some double D tits. Her tight pants come off and I'm sucking her nipples and fingering her ass. Tried to finger the vag....no go. Tried to eat her out....no go. Tried to take off her panties....no go. Went back to fingering her ass till I got tired and passed out. An hour later she calls a car and is gone. .... says she had fun wants to see me again.

What the hell did I do wrong? I've never gotten this far and not gotten the bang. .....how can I secure the bang on date 2? She wants me to go to her house for dinner. She sent a photo text of her in a tank top, braless, with caption "took this for you, thinking of you. " I have yet to respond to that text

Ball dont lie: how far are you from Shanghai

Been playing around with eye contact in bars, especially in situations where a girl is with other guys and approaching is difficult. I've had good success with this, if a girls into me she'll move away from her group enough that I can approach her without raising the guard of the dudes she's with. Last night I saw a girl checking me out, I made strong eye contact with her and smiled. She looked away then a little bit later her whole group moved to the other end of the bar. I started talking to some other people and then she comes up behind me, wraps her self around me and whispers in my ear, "If you ever look at my brother like that again I'm going to shit in your mouth and you better not like it." Then she ran off before I could say anything. That was a first. I didn't even look at the dudes she was with.

(01-17-2016 06:52 PM)Ensam Wrote:  "If you ever look at my brother like that again I'm going to shit in your mouth and you better not like it." Then she ran off before I could say anything. That was a first. I didn't even look at the dudes she was with.

Talk about getting caught off guard.

Maybe from her perspective she thought you smiling at her brother ? AKA She thought you were gay from just that action ? (I'm obviously not saying you are)