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rudebwoy · 2016-01-06 13:54:00 · #1376
^ check pm Smile
WestIndianArchie · 2016-01-07 09:43:00 · #1377
http://themedicalblog.net/2015/06/24/thi...iveOldPost
What if a single man wants to start a family, but does not have a “significant other”? Should he wait until he finds that special someone? Should he grab the next eligible lady or man that comes along? Should he simply not have children since he is single?

According to The Network Journal, Dr. Conrad Cean, a 43-year old board certified anesthesiologist in New York City wanted to have children. Using in-vitro fertilization and a surrogate, his dream became a reality. He is now the father of twins: Konrad Fritz II and Kennedy-Josephine Marie.
Cean did not jump into this major life change without thought. He researched the prospect for 4 to 5 years before finally deciding to have children on his own. He had no marriage prospects in line, and knew that even men have a “biological clock.”

Many people know that it becomes riskier for women to have children as they get older, and the chance of birth defects increases as well. Cean noted that the quality of a man’s sperm degrades with age, too. Another consideration for Cean was wanting children while he was still young enough to enjoy them.

The limits of what has been traditionally known as a “family” have changed dramatically through the years. There was an old joke that a family was “standard” if it had a mom, dad, 2.5 children and a dog. Sadly, those numbers reflected the truth of very few actual American families.

The 1970s and 1980s saw a rise in single parent families from divorce. Single parent families were not new, however, as World War II, the Korean War, and the Vietnam War had left a large number of families without at least one parent for generations.

The 1980s and 1990s saw step-families move from being sitcom fodder to a normal part of each and every community. Adoption became something that was secretive and almost taboo, to commonplace and even en-vogue.

Today, in many parts of the nation, single parent families, blended families, and adopted families are more prevalent than traditional nuclear ones.

Science is pushing the boundaries of the traditional family unit even further as test tube babies, in-vitro fertilization, and surrogates have become more affordable and popular. While these options were originally there for “traditional” families, the LGBT community and single women have been using them to have children for years.

What about the men?

Cean is just one example among many, and as the process of in-vitro pregnancies and surrogates becomes more common among professional men, the country will see the term “family” broaden yet again.
MdWanderer · 2016-01-07 12:33:00 · #1378
(01-07-2016 09:43 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  What about the men?

Cean is just one example among many, and as the process of in-vitro pregnancies and surrogates becomes more common among professional men, the country will see the term “family” broaden yet again.

I wonder why this is. Poorer communities pop out children like nobody's business, while all of my professional black friends struggle with finding suitable partners. I thought about attending a HBCU for graduate school and wondering whether it was a good idea or not. Of course I'm looking at the academic quality (schools like Howard and Morehouse are pretty good schools) plus the bonds you build that you normally would not at majority white institutions. I also heard a statistic where an overwhelming amount of the students there were black women, and they are probably looking for professional black men for marriage and dating (or it could just be a front and they really want bad boys and ignoring the professional guys).
WestIndianArchie · 2016-01-07 12:59:00 · #1379
@MD

He probably has a long ass list of requirements
Young
Attractive
Not overweight
Childless
Wants children
educated
Classy
Intelligent enough to realize his career as a doctor comes first.

He's entirely unreasonable.

WIA
MdWanderer · 2016-01-07 14:03:00 · #1380
(01-07-2016 12:59 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  @MD

He probably has a long ass list of requirements
Young
Attractive
Not overweight
Childless
Wants children
educated
Classy
Intelligent enough to realize his career as a doctor comes first.

He's entirely unreasonable.

WIA

He's better than most women, who say they want those things as well but pick up men from the scrap heap instead. At least us men want fine taste and actually follow through with it.

Also, how hard is it to be classy, educated, and attractive for women? They are shooting their own selves in the foot.
Anabasis to Desta · 2016-01-07 14:20:00 · #1381
(01-07-2016 09:43 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  What about the men?

Cean is just one example among many, and as the process of in-vitro pregnancies and surrogates becomes more common among professional men, the country will see the term “family” broaden yet again.

Interesting.

We all know children being raised by a single mother/without a dad is a recipe for disaster. But do any of you have experience with people who were raised by a single dad? Do they turn out to be as messed up as children of single mother households? Or do they tend to fare much better?
Moma · 2016-01-07 17:41:00 · #1382
(01-07-2016 02:20 PM)Anabasis to Desta Wrote:  
(01-07-2016 09:43 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  What about the men?

Cean is just one example among many, and as the process of in-vitro pregnancies and surrogates becomes more common among professional men, the country will see the term “family” broaden yet again.

Interesting.

We all know children being raised by a single mother/without a dad is a recipe for disaster. But do any of you have experience with people who were raised by a single dad? Do they turn out to be as messed up as children of single mother households? Or do they tend to fare much better?

Anabasis, they tend to be more more situated emotionally. Even the females raised by a single dad. Men are governed largely by logic and the world we live in wastes no time in showing us what happens when we act emotionally instead of practically. We tend to impart that on those who look to us for mentorship.

I was talking to a friend of mine in the UK who has 3 kids and has sole custody of one of them and the joint of the other two. He actually raised an interesting point where he said that a female's menstrual cycle can be delayed by 2-3 years if there is a man in the household. This means that she doesn't have to mature as quickly with her dad there due to the protection he provides.

Anyway, I grew up in the estates and I remember there was a yout on the manor that was raised by his dad. He would visit his mum on weekends (or every other weekend). He was more focused than the others that were the products of single mum households.
DjembaDjemba · 2016-01-07 19:59:00 · #1383
(01-07-2016 02:20 PM)Anabasis to Desta Wrote:  
(01-07-2016 09:43 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  What about the men?

Cean is just one example among many, and as the process of in-vitro pregnancies and surrogates becomes more common among professional men, the country will see the term “family” broaden yet again.

Interesting.

We all know children being raised by a single mother/without a dad is a recipe for disaster. But do any of you have experience with people who were raised by a single dad? Do they turn out to be as messed up as children of single mother households? Or do they tend to fare much better?

From my own personal experience from the women I dealt with; the ones with without moms, and who grew up with only fathers, or step moms, suffer from the worst type of "daddy's little princess" syndrome. In other words, dads make horrible single parents to girls, based on my experience. They can't scorn them the same way a woman can, and thus they seem to develop entitlement issues.

They are also toxic to work around, any criticism is taken as personal criticism. Even when they are wrong, and proven to be flat out wrong, with the wreckage right in front of all to see, they still deny.

Maybe somewhere out there there exist a multitude of girls who were raised by their fathers and turned out to not be ridiculous, but I'm yet to find them.
DjembaDjemba · 2016-01-07 20:13:00 · #1384
(01-07-2016 12:33 PM)MdWanderer Wrote:  
(01-07-2016 09:43 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  What about the men?

Cean is just one example among many, and as the process of in-vitro pregnancies and surrogates becomes more common among professional men, the country will see the term “family” broaden yet again.

I wonder why this is. Poorer communities pop out children like nobody's business, while all of my professional black friends struggle with finding suitable partners. I thought about attending a HBCU for graduate school and wondering whether it was a good idea or not. Of course I'm looking at the academic quality (schools like Howard and Morehouse are pretty good schools) plus the bonds you build that you normally would not at majority white institutions. I also heard a statistic where an overwhelming amount of the students there were black women, and they are probably looking for professional black men for marriage and dating (or it could just be a front and they really want bad boys and ignoring the professional guys).

It seems anywhere we look in the developed world men with good careers seem to be finding suitable women to have children with much later in life.

In the past we'd snag a decent looking woman, married her, kid one, house, kid two, car, in no particular order.

Nowadays many of us are looking for a woman on our intellectual and financial level. Many guys pretend they don't, but deep down inside, our bottom bitch is always generally a woman we can share something other than fluids with.

This is where we get a mismatch.

This is one of the harder parts to reconcile between the realities of the world, and the idealism of the game blogs. Do you want a super feminine, young, but not so bright girl to make babies with? There's many of them everywhere, they'll take your semen at the drop of a hat. Or do you hold out and try and find someone in your financial and intellectual 'caste'?
Moma · 2016-01-08 03:14:00 · #1385
Djemba, are the lizards that the men finding actually super feminine though? I've been around in black circles in both Canada and the US, scoping the talent. If we are talking about black lizards in particular, cultivated in the West, I don't know if they are as feminine as in the past. Remember, a large percentage of them have grown up on social media validation and have a gaping hole when it comes to tending to their man. Many cannot cook and are shameless in admitting this and base their relationships on Kendra's drama from HipHop Housewives of etc.

I've spoken to a few friends who have jumped the broom as of recent and a guy I know from the dot married a lizard from back home. I spoke to him about why he did it and he laughed at the notion of even bothering to select a lizard from the West. I asked him how he planned to keep his lizard pristine and he said he controls the type of company she keeps. In the past, I would think this a gothic and antediluvian practice but now, given the current state of affairs, it seems a very practical response for a man who hopes to protect his family state.

Of course, I could be wrong and I would love to hear from the men in here in the upper echelon of financial comforts and their experience with black lizards on this.
There might be a better strain of black lizards in cities like Atlanta and DC where one would find a stronger selection as opposed to ratchett twerkers. So men from there with their paper in order who target black lizards can definitely chime in on this.
rudebwoy · 2016-01-08 10:30:00 · #1386
^ Your post is so spot on.

I recently had "family" from the Caribbean staying with me, the wife was only concerned about her phone and talking to people on whatsapp. She has the princess syndrome which seems to spreading down south. More and more, the old Eddie Murphy joke about bringing a woman back from Africa seems less funny.

As you rightly stated, woman of today cannot cook or if they can it won't be anything close to what your mother can make. It has reached the point where I troll girls about their cooking skills, some will respond and try to prove to me that they can cook. At least most of them will feel a little ashamed about lacking those skills, the problem is the next guy will be happy to be in her company.

There is a reason why guys are travelling to certain continents and enjoying the company of feminine women.
h3ltrsk3ltr · 2016-01-08 11:23:00 · #1387
I kind of doubt a woman's natural ability to cook anyway. My mom was an amazing cook, but only after years of cooking and making meals and fucking a lot of stuff up.

I'm living on my own and cooking for myself and I enjoy it and I understand the masculine sense of preparing a hearty meal. I often bring girls over to cook "with" me and they're so fucking hopeless I just have them do the cleaning.

I've come to believe that man taught woman to cook with the primary idea that they'd just stick to the recipes men had discovered and hang around to clean up after.
Moma · 2016-01-08 12:46:00 · #1388
Yea we not talking about their innate ability, we are talking about their home training. I think I mentioned I met a lizard in Dec that said a man who could cook turned her on, I marvelled at how deep the insanity had taken root in her head.
rudebwoy · 2016-01-08 14:33:00 · #1389
I have had more than one chick try to "qualify" me by asking if I can cook. LMAO

Madness.
Anabasis to Desta · 2016-01-08 14:45:00 · #1390
(01-08-2016 02:33 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  I have had more than one chick try to "qualify" me by asking if I can cook. LMAO

Madness.

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262 · 2016-01-08 17:22:00 · #1391
In Soviet America, YOU cook for girl!
crudeloyalist · 2016-01-08 17:30:00 · #1392
In my experience, a woman's ability to cook usually corresponds with her ethnicity. For example, British Indian chicks can cook, Nigerian British chicks can cook, even Eastern Europeans that have been living in the UK for a few years can put together a nice meal. I was banging this older Polish chick last year who used to make me dinner after a good session. It was awesome.

It's the native English white girls that usually can't cook. The UK doesn't have much of a culture of cooking food anyway which probably has something to do with it.
Moma · 2016-01-08 17:47:00 · #1393
(01-08-2016 05:30 PM)crudeloyalist Wrote:  In my experience, a woman's ability to cook usually corresponds with her ethnicity. For example, British Indian chicks can cook, Nigerian British chicks can cook, even Eastern Europeans that have been living in the UK for a few years can put together a nice meal. I was banging this older Polish chick last year who used to make me dinner after a good session. It was awesome.

It's the native English white girls that usually can't cook. The UK doesn't have much of a culture of cooking food anyway which probably has something to do with it.

Maybe that Anglo rubbish spread to North America and other countries influenced. I used to poke a white French Canadian lizard who used to cook for me all the time. I swear to date, she made the best egusi soup I have ever had, no lie!
azulsombra · 2016-01-08 18:24:00 · #1394
White American girls are not know for their cooking ability and are typically boastful of that fact. Asking them to cook for you is chauvinistic, degrading and sexist but asking to bang them in the butt or give you a deepthroat BJ is acceptable. Huh

I think I've only had 2 that even attempted to cook me anything and these girls were raised in a two parent outside of any big cities so they were slightly more traditional than the norm.

As far as sistas go I know the older AA females can cook. The under 30s I doubt it, unless raised outside the cities.

Any latina I've seen at least twice times has been enthusiastic about cooking for me. They were raised by their mothers to cook at a young age so their skills are usually legit too. Russian chicks also know how to cook in my experience.
BasketBounce · 2016-01-08 19:36:00 · #1395
(01-08-2016 05:47 PM)Moma Wrote:  Maybe that Anglo rubbish spread to North America and other countries influenced. I used to poke a white French Canadian lizard who used to cook for me all the time. I swear to date, she made the best egusi soup I have ever had, no lie!
i was planning on getting my white girl to cook me okra soup...problem is I still gotta learn myself!

don't go to an ivy league school if you're lookin to smash...most girls aren't down, and even if they are, many of them are looking towards politics and don't need that "rep" if you know what I mean. many are also heavyset feminists
MdWanderer · 2016-01-08 19:46:00 · #1396
(01-08-2016 06:24 PM)azulsombra Wrote:  As far as sistas go I know the older AA females can cook. The under 30s I doubt it, unless raised outside the cities.

This is true. I was spoiled as a kid eating my mom and grandmother's food. But my female relatives under 30 can't toast a piece of bread, but can tell you the names of all of the best restaurants in Baltimore City.

I am teaching myself to cook, so I can a.) be healthier, and b.) don't care all that much for the restaurant industry having worked in it for two years.
WestIndianArchie · 2016-01-09 23:33:00 · #1397
I've run the gamut, yet for whatever reason I've never been able to find and close the deal with Asians. It's not that I haven't been in situations where I could get some pho, but situations always bubble up. Back to Back to Back Creoles, white girls galore, Deep South sistas, Egyptians, Russian, Ukranians, Bulgarians, a whole mess of Mexicanas, but the Asian flag eludes me. I got the Indian flag early, multiple middle eastern flags...but I can't seem to connect with an Asian chick that is attractive.

Anyway, there are red flags for ltr's, but what's your red flag for a ONS

Pro-Tip, sometimes a ONS can turn into an FB relationship, which can turn into a FWB relationship, which can turn into you picking out a couch at Mitchell Gold and Bob Williams

So I know some of you will run up in a Bonnie Rotten

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But some of you are smart enough to avoid those.

One Bang is One Bang too Much!

So what makes you sober up from your Glenfidditch Buzz and say, "Sorry, Pass"

For me?

There are the obvious ones, when she discloses STD's.

But I've banged hard drug users, single moms, fat chicks, chicks with low self esteem, strippers. A few ugmo's with banging bodies.

My #1

BAD BREATH.

It's one thing to smell like mojitos and cigarettes, but this one chick was READY TO GO. She was maybe a 6, I could generally do better, but not that night.

Grinding on your boy like she wanted child support, one of the few times that I could have banged just off dancing, but she was maybe a 5 feet away for me when she said let's go. I was like cool.

Then as she peaced out to her crew, she got close and said something..

ROAST BEEF BITCH. Like when you get the good good from the deli, but don't get a chance to eat it, and it has that chameleon color changing film on top of it.

I said I had to say what's up to my people, and smooth rolled the fuck out.

You?

WIA
Moma · 2016-01-10 06:37:00 · #1398
We will be having a podcast with Archie later on today, if you have any questions to ask of him, please post them here.
Moma · 2016-01-10 06:44:00 · #1399
(01-09-2016 11:33 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  Anyway, there are red flags for ltr's, but what's your red flag for a ONS?

Pro-Tip, sometimes a ONS can turn into an FB relationship, which can turn into a FWB relationship, which can turn into you picking out a couch at Mitchell Gold and Bob Williams

So I know some of you will run up in a Bonnie Rotten

[Image: 15708598935_56fc20553e.jpg]

But some of you are smart enough to avoid those.

One Bang is One Bang too Much!

So what makes you sober up from your Glenfidditch Buzz and say, "Sorry, Pass"

For me?

There are the obvious ones, when she discloses STD's.

But I've banged hard drug users, single moms, fat chicks, chicks with low self esteem, strippers. A few ugmo's with banging bodies.

My #1

BAD BREATH.

It's one thing to smell like mojitos and cigarettes, but this one chick was READY TO GO. She was maybe a 6, I could generally do better, but not that night.

Grinding on your boy like she wanted child support, one of the few times that I could have banged just off dancing, but she was maybe a 5 feet away for me when she said let's go. I was like cool.

Then as she peaced out to her crew, she got close and said something..

ROAST BEEF BITCH. Like when you get the good good from the deli, but don't get a chance to eat it, and it has that chameleon color changing film on top of it.

I said I had to say what's up to my people, and smooth rolled the fuck out.

You?

WIA

Archie, I can't stand bad breath either..when i smell it, my dick goes to sleep. I always imagine lizards to adhere to a higher hygiene standard than men so when I smell vile odours, it really signals that she has let herself go. I don't actually actively eject from a ONS opportunity but I think I'm unable to mask my body language to that degree. So even though I say, let's go, my body language seems very reluctant and my tone has changed. Bad breath and vile smells makes my willie wilt like Chamberlain. I was in a club once moving on a lizard and I could actually smell her vag through her dress..it was a mixture of piss and fish. Some men deem me meek for being so queamish but I'm a stickler on scent.
Dr. Kahn · 2016-01-10 06:51:00 · #1400
Same here.

A chick disclosing her STD is too much for me. Two cases from college.

Tracy. She is now a dentist. From Katmandu, Nepal. With alluring green eyes. Tight ass body too. I have to turn her down.

Lydia. She looks like a ripe, younger version of Drew Barrymore. I had to turn her down.

Part of me wish they didn't blurt out their STD to me until i have hit it, because both were sure bangs.

Some chicks gets emotional and start confessing all sorts ridiculous details, when feeling what they think is a strong connection to you.




(01-09-2016 11:33 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  So what makes you sober up from your Glenfidditch Buzz and say, "Sorry, Pass"

For me?

There are the obvious ones, when she discloses STD's.
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