There are plenty of hard statistics on how many people were slaughtered by the Nazis. You still haven't explained how executing millions of Soviets and Jews was logical. Those atrocities were the epitome of brutality on a shockingly organised scale. What evidence is there that the Japanese were killing for fun? Anecdotes? Propaganda? There is no way of disproving any of that.

The Nazis and Japanese were both evil regimes. My only complaint is how the Japanese are always portrayed as worse when the facts just don't stack up.

I suggest we take this another thread or PM before we get warned by the moderators.

(12-24-2015 06:18 AM)dreambig Wrote:  There are plenty of hard statistics on how many people were slaughtered by the Nazis. You still haven't explained how executing millions of Soviets and Jews was logical. Those atrocities were the epitome of brutality on a shockingly organised scale. What evidence is there that the Japanese were killing for fun? Anecdotes? Propaganda? There is no way of disproving any of that.

The Nazis and Japanese were both evil regimes. My only complaint is how the Japanese are always portrayed as worse when the facts just don't stack up.

I suggest we take this another thread or PM before we get warned by the moderators.

I'm curious, where is it taught that the Japanese were "worse" than the Germans? Certainly isn't in the American school system and certainly not in any Anglosphere or Western European country.

Are you from China or something? Than that interpretation would make sense given the many documented Jap atrocities in China. Perhaps there they emphasize Japan over Germany given they had no direct conflict with Germany at all. But otherwise what your saying really doesn't have a basis in the WW2 narrative we are taught in the Western World.

Good news from Hungary in an attempt to try raise the local birth rate they are now giving young couples enough money to buy a house if they manage to have 3 kids within 10 years:

http://newobserveronline.com/hungary-to-...-children/

Guys serious stop and let the thread get back on topic. I didn't want to stop making my point, but I did for the sake of the thread. Cease fire

(12-24-2015 06:34 AM)NewMeta Wrote:  Good news from Hungary in an attempt to try raise the local birth rate they are now giving young couples enough money to buy a house if they manage to have 3 kids within 10 years:

http://newobserveronline.com/hungary-to-...-children/

Good, such initiatives are often used by Israel to boost their population rate and are rather successful. To the point where Israeli's are beginning to outnumber Palestinian muslims when it comes to having children.

Another reason for why there is no excuse for 'progressive' nations to do the same.

(12-24-2015 06:18 AM)dreambig Wrote:  _ _ _ What evidence is there that the Japanese were killing for fun? Anecdotes? Propaganda? There is no way of disproving any of that.

The Nazis and Japanese were both evil regimes. My only complaint is how the Japanese are always portrayed as worse when the facts just don't stack up.

I suggest we take this another thread or PM before we get warned by the moderators.

The rate of death suffered by allied troops who surrendered to the Germans was around 3%. But under the Japanese, it was 30%.

The Pacific theater was worse because it was a true race war. The Japanese believed they were superior and acted accordingly.

As a British World War TWO veteran told me - he was also a long-time Member of Parliament - when he liberated POW camps in Burma, "they kept details on how they abused and killed" allied prisoners. "They were proud" of their sadistic murders, he said.

Sixty years later, his protest of the Japanese' evil included having to do nothing with anything made by the Japanese, so far as possible. For instance - my prof, a Polish war veteran who, as a teenager in the underground, had to kill an SS officer in Budapest in order to escape to England - asked me give our distinguished guest a lift to the library.

I drove a Mitsubishi Eclipse - a Japanese brand. The British vet simply dodged our appointed time so that he didn't have to ride in my Jap car. (He found an alternate way there.)

I think this kind of "protest" by an aging man was deeply important to him because it his way of honoring the dead and resisting the death he saw, committed by the Japanese Army.

Several posters have talked about French king Louis 16 XVI, on this thread.

True enough, the man was a weak failure. But he was just a (sad) exception, the only weak man in his lineage.

That's actually the ONLY problem with kings and monarchy: 9 out of ten kings will be good, dignified, clever Alpha-men, but, the tenth one is going to be weak, inefficient, and bring desolation to his country.

(That's why a functioning monarchy has to have noblemen who can get rid of a weak monarch (the tenth one) through, well, assassination or exile)


Above, bloody and crazed monarch Alfoin being terminated with the help of his (treacherous) wife, who, look closely at the picture, is squeezing the sword sheath to prevent her king-husband from drawing the sword: the clever bitch!)

Anyway, game save lives... and even countries: do you know why Louis 16 lost France?

Because he had no game!

The poor man had a dick-sickness that prevented him from fucking well: pathological phimosis. He couldn't impregnate his young wife during 5 years...

That's why he was so shy and weak-minded, and lost his power without much of a fight. Yes, French revolution was made possible by a pathological phimosis!

(Nota bene: still, Louis 16 was very dignified on the day of his execution)

(12-24-2015 03:35 AM)Fast Eddie Wrote:  Edit: ^^I had meant to edit the post above yours to expand my original response but somehow created a new one (this one) by mistake.

(12-24-2015 03:21 AM)Fast Eddie Wrote:  [quote='dreambig' pid='1177095' dateline='1450944285']
I'm not really sure I follow much of what Tony said, but Nazi treatment of the Jews, Soviet citizens and Soviet POWs (to name just a few) far outstrips anything that the Japanese did to the Chinese or Allied forces. People want to believe that the Japanese were "the worst", but that's just buying into western propaganda. Talk about blue pill. I've already disproved this notion before on the forum and this probably isn't the right thread in any case. Yes they did some evil shit but the Nazis took the cake. That's not even a debate.

Yes, the Germans did some bad things to the Russians,Poles, Jews etc during WWII. However, these bad things were not done gratuitously. There were in almost every case a logical albeit ruthless response to the reality of the world at the time. You have to realize that the Nazis, at the beginning of their rule, were an almost heroic response to the most bloodthirsty horror that the world had ever seen, Bolshevism. By the time Hitler rose to power this terror had already consumed tens of millions of lives in the Soviet Union and was threatening to engulf Germany itself.

Today, thanks to ceaseless propaganda, we all believe the Nazis rose to power fueled by Germans' empty fears, hate, and the search for "scapegoats," as if Bolshevism did not exist and had not just eradicated 20m+ eastern Europeans and set its sights on Western Europe. With that said, did the Nazis behave admirably, especially during the end days of the war when it was obvious their time was up? Of course not. But their excesiveness should not blind us to the fact that it was an excessive reaction rather than cruelty for the sake of cruelty.


The Japanese on the other hand engaged in barbarity for no other reason than that they enjoyed it. In my mind, that is far worse.

Yes, Bolshevism was a prime reason for the Nazis coming to power, but the Nazis were also motivated by a Year Zero ideology themselves. The reason the Nazis invaded Poland, Russia, etc. was because they wanted to recover the lands that they had acquired in the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk and then lost at Versailles. Their goal was to create a greater Germany by killing off the native Slavs and replacing them with Germans in a move for colonization. This actually was not a unique Nazi phenomenon though. Hitler just tried to carry on the work the Germans tried to do in World War I but failed (see Ober Ost).

To say that the German invasion of these lands was solely motivated by Bolshevism and that Churchill, et al were "genocidal" is just not correct, and it makes us look really stupid for posting it here and empowers the left.

These arguments about "who was worse" between the Germans and Japanese don't solve anything (for good measure I'll mention the Japanese biological experiments on Chinese who they considered inferior). Fact is they were both bad, and unfortunately the dissonance that they created are a big reason why we are in the situation we're in.

The problem we are dealing with today is the rise of an entirely new kind of Year Zero-ism of which this thread is an ample example, and it's possibly even more insidious because it poses as a sheep. Such is Cultural Marxism.

So here's a question to distract from all of this off topic BS.

I'm in Jerusalem for a historical journey and I want to get into the Dome of the Rock which has weird muslim only rules.

The girl i'm with has a shawl and i've grown a beard. What can I say to the cops to fool them into thinking i'm muslim?

(12-24-2015 08:48 AM)The Beast1 Wrote:  So here's a question to distract from all of this off topic BS.

I'm in Jerusalem for a historical journey and I want to get into the Dome of the Rock which has weird muslim only rules.

The girl i'm with has a shawl and i've grown a beard. What can I say to the cops to fool them into thinking i'm muslim?

Tell them the 99 names of Allah, it should do the trick.

Careful though, apostasy is a capital sin, even meant as a joke...

(12-23-2015 06:57 AM)Filbert Wrote:  Frankly, I didn't thoroughly peruse this thread, but will the migrants just not drown in 81 millions of germans, ffs?

How many pupils you need to mess up a class? How many jerks you need to turn a party into a brawl? Sometimes just one. How will they drown into society? We had muslim immigrants in the 60/70s before and they did not drown in. They lived their live and worked but 2th and 3th generation get some fucked up people. A lost generation. Its the number, if one family is there surrounded by only Germany they will fit in with no problem. Now they have a critical number, their own areas or neighborhoods. Stick to their own. Which is first of all not an issue, you can see this with other groups too. But the issue is the behavior. Most other groups work, do their stuff and don't commit crimes, don't make trouble. A Chinese that runs a restaurant and not speak German but live there for 15 years. No issue at all.
But the muslims? Their way of live lead to trouble. With the big number of them now, they bring their own different mentality. They will not rule German nor run anything at all. Just areas where Germans and better educated immigrants move away. Then there is a rise of no go areas. Schools with 90 % immigrants are normal in some areas. There is no way to run the school normal anymore. So many problems. Its like cancer. It infects everything in the area. Then those people have no future, no jobs, no education.

With the refugees the same. What should society do with them. 90 % of them will not fit in into the working market. They will live from social welfare. They arrive with fancy dreams and those dreams will be crushed. And its our, the Germans fault. Because Muslims are never wrong. So they start to hate the society. One part of them will commit crimes, low life immigrants. The others will put their anger and hate into a more radical answer. They become religious fanatics. There are no jobs for all of them! We even don't have jobs for not educated Germans, how should we provide them for immigrants that have no qualification, no education and not even can speak the language? Their frustration will turn into social problems.

Something from the frontline. I volunteer to work in a refugee camp. Not because I like them to be here just to get my own eyes on this.
First of all, there is no crime or rape epidemic since they are in my town. Sure some crimes but not as bad as some people say it. And most of those that commit crimes are not even real refugees. They are from different countries and arrive with the wave to commit crimes.

The people I work with are 80 % men, some have their wives and a few kids. Mostly from Syria. So far they are friendly but the number. I work in one camp with about 104 people, we have an other with 420 and one with 80. Just in my little town. Now this situation is all over Germany. Even when most don't commit crimes. Only 10 to 15 % do so far. What to do with all those people in the future?
Thats the question. Where we have the point again, there are not jobs for them, no way they can make a living on their own. A few will make it but the rest? They will fail and be lost. Then they get frustration and it turns into anger and hate. The Islam culture is good to blame others, always. Also they think they are superior to everyone. Mix this with low education and no future and you get serious problems. Then also the lack of German authorities to be strict with them. We will get more bad neighborhoods all over Germany.

(12-24-2015 09:11 AM)Parzival Wrote:  

(12-23-2015 06:57 AM)Filbert Wrote:  Frankly, I didn't thoroughly peruse this thread, but will the migrants just not drown in 81 millions of germans, ffs?

How many pupils you need to mess up a class? How many jerks you need to turn a party into a brawl? Sometimes just one. How will they drown into society? We had muslim immigrants in the 60/70s before and they did not drown in. They lived their live and worked but 2th and 3th generation get some fucked up people. A lost generation. Its the number, if one family is there surrounded by only Germany they will fit in with no problem. Now they have a critical number, their own areas or neighborhoods. Stick to their own. Which is first of all not an issue, you can see this with other groups too. But the issue is the behavior. Most other groups work, do their stuff and don't commit crimes, don't make trouble. A Chinese that runs a restaurant and not speak German but live there for 15 years. No issue at all.
But the muslims? Their way of live lead to trouble. With the big number of them now, they bring their own different mentality. They will not rule German nor run anything at all. Just areas where Germans and better educated immigrants move away. Then there is a rise of no go areas. Schools with 90 % immigrants are normal in some areas. There is no way to run the school normal anymore. So many problems. Its like cancer. It infects everything in the area. Then those people have no future, no jobs, no education.

With the refugees the same. What should society do with them. 90 % of them will not fit in into the working market. They will live from social welfare. They arrive with fancy dreams and those dreams will be crushed. And its our, the Germans fault. Because Muslims are never wrong. So they start to hate the society. One part of them will commit crimes, low life immigrants. The others will put their anger and hate into a more radical answer. They become religious fanatics. There are no jobs for all of them! We even don't have jobs for not educated Germans, how should we provide them for immigrants that have no qualification, no education and not even can speak the language? Their frustration will turn into social problems.

Something from the frontline. I volunteer to work in a refugee camp. Not because I like them to be here just to get my own eyes on this.
First of all, there is no crime or rape epidemic since they are in my town. Sure some crimes but not as bad as some people say it. And most of those that commit crimes are not even real refugees. They are from different countries and arrive with the wave to commit crimes.

The people I work with are 80 % men, some have their wives and a few kids. Mostly from Syria. So far they are friendly but the number. I work in one camp with about 104 people, we have an other with 420 and one with 80. Just in my little town. Now this situation is all over Germany. Even when most don't commit crimes. Only 10 to 15 % do so far. What to do with all those people in the future?
Thats the question. Where we have the point again, there are not jobs for them, no way they can make a living on their own. A few will make it but the rest? They will fail and be lost. Then they get frustration and it turns into anger and hate. The Islam culture is good to blame others, always. Also they think they are superior to everyone. Mix this with low education and no future and you get serious problems. Then also the lack of German authorities to be strict with them. We will get more bad neighborhoods all over Germany.

Excellent post, one of the grittiest and most realistic in the whole thread. I believe that it gives a very accurate description of the extent of the problem, neither understating nor exaggerating it.

The latest news from Sweden (I found all these on the /r/European subreddit):

Muslims beat and kick Swedes on the street in broad daylight





"13-year-old" cleared of gang rape charges although he himself has stated to be 33 years of age"

One of the so-called refugees who raped who raped a Swedish woman in Södermalm, Stockholm has been cleared by the court as the court could not be sure that he was above 15 years of age. The man has himself stated that he's 33 years old when he was living in Germany under a different name.

The men lured the woman to a cliff at a lookout spot called Fåfängan in Stickholm under the pretence that they'd comfort her. But instead of comforting her they joyfully beat her while laughing.

Three North African men who with at least one other man raped the woman were given short sentences earlier this year as they claimed to be under the age of 18. They were sentenced to 6 and 9 months of youth-care. This despite the fact that two of the men were by a medical examination confirmed to be adults.
The rapist was released this Tuesday as the court could not confirm that the man was above 15 years of age as he himself had gotten rid of all documents identifying him. This despite the fact that the man when living in Germany himself had stated to be 33 years of age.

When the man applied for Asylum in Sweden he claimed to have been born in the year 2000 which would make him above 15 years of age.
The man has also been in Norway under different names and claimed to be 17 and 19 years of age and according to a medical examination in Sweden he's been confirmed to be above the age of 18.

His lawyer Karl Harling insists that his client is still a child.
–My client denies any wrong doing. He says that he didn't do any of this and he's 13 years of age which puts him below the age of 15 which is the minimum age for crime responsibility
The victim cried in disbelief over the short sentences when the tabloid Aftonbladet interviewed the woman.
–At first I was happy that they all got sentenced but then I the disappointment of these short sentences hit me. It's sickening.

Source in Swedish: http://www.friatider.se/friades-f-r-best...-vara-33-r

12 year-old Swedish girl regularly raped over a period of 2 years by 3 Afghan asylum-seekers. Rapists are sentenced to 12-16 months prison.


One of them met her on Instagram when she was 11, proceeded to rape her at a community centre when she turned 12 shortly after. He and two other Afghans groomed her for 2 years until they were found out. They will not be punished, but rather allowed to spend 12-16 months at a Swedish vacation home, at the expense of the Swedish people.

https://translate.google.ca/translate?hl...rnv-ldt-kt

3 Arab men who raped Swedish woman receive sentences:
https://www.reddit.com/r/european/commen...n_receive/

Last but not least: 'Sweden sees faster growth but immigration costs mount'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/reuters...z3vFiLN1HP

(12-24-2015 08:42 AM)Libertas Wrote:  To say that the German invasion of these lands was solely motivated by Bolshevism and that Churchill, et al were "genocidal" is just not correct, and it makes us look really stupid for posting it here and empowers the left.

(12-24-2015 09:32 AM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  

(12-24-2015 09:11 AM)Parzival Wrote:  

(12-23-2015 06:57 AM)Filbert Wrote:  Frankly, I didn't thoroughly peruse this thread, but will the migrants just not drown in 81 millions of germans, ffs?

How many pupils you need to mess up a class? How many jerks you need to turn a party into a brawl? Sometimes just one. How will they drown into society? We had muslim immigrants in the 60/70s before and they did not drown in. They lived their live and worked but 2th and 3th generation get some fucked up people. A lost generation. Its the number, if one family is there surrounded by only Germany they will fit in with no problem. Now they have a critical number, their own areas or neighborhoods. Stick to their own. Which is first of all not an issue, you can see this with other groups too. But the issue is the behavior. Most other groups work, do their stuff and don't commit crimes, don't make trouble. A Chinese that runs a restaurant and not speak German but live there for 15 years. No issue at all.
But the muslims? Their way of live lead to trouble. With the big number of them now, they bring their own different mentality. They will not rule German nor run anything at all. Just areas where Germans and better educated immigrants move away. Then there is a rise of no go areas. Schools with 90 % immigrants are normal in some areas. There is no way to run the school normal anymore. So many problems. Its like cancer. It infects everything in the area. Then those people have no future, no jobs, no education.

With the refugees the same. What should society do with them. 90 % of them will not fit in into the working market. They will live from social welfare. They arrive with fancy dreams and those dreams will be crushed. And its our, the Germans fault. Because Muslims are never wrong. So they start to hate the society. One part of them will commit crimes, low life immigrants. The others will put their anger and hate into a more radical answer. They become religious fanatics. There are no jobs for all of them! We even don't have jobs for not educated Germans, how should we provide them for immigrants that have no qualification, no education and not even can speak the language? Their frustration will turn into social problems.

Something from the frontline. I volunteer to work in a refugee camp. Not because I like them to be here just to get my own eyes on this.
First of all, there is no crime or rape epidemic since they are in my town. Sure some crimes but not as bad as some people say it. And most of those that commit crimes are not even real refugees. They are from different countries and arrive with the wave to commit crimes.

The people I work with are 80 % men, some have their wives and a few kids. Mostly from Syria. So far they are friendly but the number. I work in one camp with about 104 people, we have an other with 420 and one with 80. Just in my little town. Now this situation is all over Germany. Even when most don't commit crimes. Only 10 to 15 % do so far. What to do with all those people in the future?
Thats the question. Where we have the point again, there are not jobs for them, no way they can make a living on their own. A few will make it but the rest? They will fail and be lost. Then they get frustration and it turns into anger and hate. The Islam culture is good to blame others, always. Also they think they are superior to everyone. Mix this with low education and no future and you get serious problems. Then also the lack of German authorities to be strict with them. We will get more bad neighborhoods all over Germany.

Excellent post, one of the grittiest and most realistic in the whole thread. I believe that it gives a very accurate description of the extent of the problem, neither understating nor exaggerating it.

Actually, this post is... understating the threat.

I posted, weeks ago, on this thread, official stats on migrants in Germany, and it's not "90% that don't work": only one migrant out of 40 had found a job during the first 18 months of his coming to Germany. So I dare say, not even 10% will work in the end!

Also, this post is written by a German, so he's worried about false Syrian dudes. Ok, he's right, too.

But I'm French and believe me, we have lot worse migrants, immigrants much more problematic! The illegal Sub-Sahrans (Black Africans is you prefer).

Because if you think false Syrians are bad, my friends, lol: just ask a French or a Spaniard or an Italian about Black-African migrants! You have no idea, you have to see it for yourselves: those are 98% non-integrate-able troublemakers. They're also very ready to physically fight you or riot, they don't even play nice like supposed-Syrians do.

I'm telling you, I'll take 4 "Syrians" or 25 Hondurenos in France, if you agreed, in exchange, to take 1 of our illegal Sub-Saharans to your country!

That's also why all this (not so un-PC actually) talks about "Islam" are a bit tedious. Real danger comes from hundreds of millions, yes hundreds of millions (I quoted Sarkozy on that) of unemployed, desperate, both dreaming and furious Sub-Saharans in their starting-blocks, waiting to invade Europe through Lybia and Lampedusa.

"false-Syrian migrants" are but a temporary 5-million-profiteers strong sideshow. Real fuck-show is, 500 millions of Sub-Saharans impatient to come to Europe.

(12-24-2015 04:45 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  Guys, can you please move this discussion on which system of governance is better and who did what in WW2 to another thread? This is supposed to be for news on migrants and pushback.

I am talking about the pushback. Specifically, that our "Western World" was built by Christianity for over 2000 years, and now that it has been discarded in many key parts (such as Western Europe) they will die and fall to Muslims.

I will go so far as to say that any country not explicitly Christian will eventually be conquered by Islam. Islam is not an advanced religion, it doesn't rely on technology, it just relies on sheer manpower and an evil lust for power. They control their women with terrible might so that they will always have a large birthrate, and they infiltrate cultures they cannot invade directly and steadily work to undermine it and bring about Sharia law.

Even India, which has held back Islam for a long time now, will eventually fall to it in the centuries to come as soon as they let their guard down. Islam never changes, and never lets go of grudges.

(12-19-2015 08:30 PM)Samseau Wrote:  I have read many intelligent Atheists; a great deal of them still went to Church and fully admitted that in spite of not believing they still had tremendous respect and value for the stability Christianity provides for a culture through its family, legal, and economic values.

It really wasn't until Jews started joining Western universities post-Napaleon's emancipation of Talmudic Jews did they read up on these Enlightenment Atheists, such as Rousseau, and say,

"Well if Jesus is bullshit then what do we need any of these stupid religions and churches for anyways? We obviously can do it on our own we are smart enough now!"

At first, no one gave a shit what the Talmuds believed, but post WW2 and the Holocaust guilt was enough for many more Atheist intellectuals within the university to be sympathetic to Talmudic arguments against Christianity, which has since led us into the spiritual death of Europe and it's subsequent invasion.

Honest atheists (and agonistics), for most of Western Civilization, have never been anti-Christianity because the vast majority of atheists have been able to appreciate what the religion gave to their culture. Especially in regards to women. Alexis de Tocqueville, an agnostic himself (I believe), wrote huge praise for American women and their Christian virtues back in the 1830's. My how the times have changed.

Do you have examples of such atheists? (Besides Rousseau & de Tocqueville).

I am an atheist, yet in the last little while, as I've gotten increasingly red-pilled about human nature, I've come to be pro-religion for societal purposes. The ideal of what I term 'Star Trek Atheism' - a noble and disciplined secular humanism - just does not bear out in real life. The atheists I come across are all invariably narcissists, hedonists, and nihilists. Their 'enlightenment' is but a licence for unrestrained superficiality. After all, why be anything else?

Chicks definitely dig winners and they would sure as shit dig the guys who deported all of the ethnic human detritis Europe has accumulated. Sure, they would piss and moan about it being mean, but it give them mad tingle to see their men standing triumphantly on platforms as boats and trains carrying the stowaways of our countries depart to their homeland.

(12-24-2015 12:44 PM)Samseau Wrote:  I will go so far as to say that any country not explicitly Christian will eventually be conquered by Islam.

The soviets did and the chinese do quite well resisting islam, despite being secular states. Are you claiming that china will become islamic? That is very hard to believe: for example Ralph Townsend discusses china's resistance to foreign religions, one of which was islam at the peak of its power and another of which was christianity at the apex of its missionary zeal.

You also have, for example, singapore, which has not had a single islamic terrorist attack despite being 15% muslim. This is due to state control of islamic temples and other "infringements on the free practice of religion".

Quote:How Singapore controls its Muslim population

1) Create a government run Muslim organization, run by Muslim government officials
2) Ensure every mosque built has no unknown sponsors
3) Every Imam, Muslim scholar and visiting Islamic scholars etc are screened and their sermons must be government approved
4) Every friday sermon at every mosque are government approved scripts and every mosque have ISD officers(secret police) monitoring mosque funds and donations including sniffing out radicalism
5) Most ISD officers are Muslim along with half of the police force
6) Muslim girls are not allowed to wear the hijab in primary and secondary schools as they break the school uniform code
7) Sharia law exists solely for Muslim affairs like marriage and inheritance and burial procedures and does not affect non-Muslims. Sharia does not have jurisdiction in anything else. A Muslim who commits a crime will still be under British adopted civil and criminal law of the Republic of Singapore.
8) Muslims here drink alcohol and eat pork without any problems and this is considered normal and denouncing Islam is not uncommon.
9) Government encourages Muslim family members and Imams to point out self radicalized individuals for re-education with compensation.

We have 0 jihadist terrorist attacks DESPITE being surrounded by jihadist prone countries like Malaysia and Indonesia.

Malaysia actively supplies weapons and funds to Jihadist/Separatist movements in the Philippines and South Thailand while Indonesia is a hotbed of Islamic radicalism.

Is it so hard for countries like the US or Sweden to follow a few of our examples?

It is very hard to believe that any european government, regardless of its affiliation and no matter how incompetent, would see islamic terror or islamic practice remain a problem for long once they admit that it is a problem at all.

Who then does not admit islam is a problem? Only countries which have christian majorities.

(12-24-2015 11:18 AM)Going strong Wrote:  "false-Syrian migrants" are but a temporary 5-million-profiteers strong sideshow. Real fuck-show is, 500 millions of Sub-Saharans impatient to come to Europe.

This.

A lot people underestimate the demographic time bomb of Sub-Sahara Africa. Africa's population is expected to double to 2.4 billion people by 2050. Nigeria in particular will have a population bigger than the US by 2050.

Consequently, this is going to be a global problem, not just a European/Western one. For example, African migrants are already heading to Latin America, specifically Argentina. See the following video.





If Europe fails to stop and reverse herself from becoming a third world shithole, I expect the number Sub-Saharan Africans migrating to the Americas to significantly increase. There also exists the possibility of Sub-Saharan Africans attempting to migrate to East Asia.

Anyhow, Europe needs to get its act together and see Africa as a legitimate threat. The African as well as the "Syrian refugees" are conquerors in the disguise refugees. They want to steal Europe's wealth, rape European women, and ultimately destroy European culture and then build their society atop of the ruins of European/Western civilization.

(12-24-2015 05:10 PM)quino_16 Wrote:  Anyhow, Europe needs to get its act together and see Africa as a legitimate threat. The African as well as the "Syrian refugees" are conquerors in the disguise refugees. They want to steal Europe's wealth, rape European women, and ultimately destroy European culture and then build their society atop of the ruins of European/Western civilization turn it into a 3rd world war zone.

There I corrected it for you

(12-24-2015 12:44 PM)Samseau Wrote:  Even India, which has held back Islam for a long time now, will eventually fall to it in the centuries to come as soon as they let their guard down. Islam never changes, and never lets go of grudges.

I kind of disagree with this. In asia at least islam is actually losing ground these days.

The violence of islamists in SEA has received immense negative press. SEA is not P.C. like Europe or the west and doesn't paint islam as the victim. Islam is more and more being associated as an arab sand god religion brought in by the subcontinent and arab traders. Islam is not a popular religion with the young SEA and NEA middle class which is a growing and very vocal demographic.

Xinjiang province in China was majority islam for a long time and now entire regions are being flipped back to Han Chinese through proactive repopulation. Muslims are being eradicated one at a time and the PRC doesn't coddle muslims like the west.

(12-24-2015 05:10 PM)quino_16 Wrote:  If Europe fails to stop and reverse herself from becoming a third world shithole, I expect the number Sub-Saharan Africans migrating to the Americas to significantly increase. There also exists the possibility of Sub-Saharan Africans attempting to migrate to East Asia.

They are already there, though not in large numbers. A lot of them are in Bangkok. Quite a lot in Tokyo, particularly Roppongi. Some in places like Jakarta, Manila and Hong Kong.

(12-24-2015 10:41 PM)Brodiaga Wrote:  

(12-24-2015 05:10 PM)quino_16 Wrote:  If Europe fails to stop and reverse herself from becoming a third world shithole, I expect the number Sub-Saharan Africans migrating to the Americas to significantly increase. There also exists the possibility of Sub-Saharan Africans attempting to migrate to East Asia.

They are already there, though not in large numbers. A lot of them are in Bangkok. Quite a lot in Tokyo, particularly Roppongi. Some in places like Jakarta, Manila and Hong Kong.

Plenty of africans in Asia..usually involved in the gems trade, textiles, or various services industry. Actually most aren't a problem at all in asia because the numbers are kept in check and so are the activities.

Plenty of african drug runners in asia but they are also kept in check and allowed to "do business" based on how they kick back to higher ups on the chain.

I don't see that changing anytime soon either. Asia as a whole is very non P.C. when it comes to outside immigration from other regions of the world. Plus the cultural and language barrier is too large for most people to hurdle anyways it's a natural protective barrier.

4:24 starts the immigration part

Talks about a minority majority, a "browning" and a global america.

Other parts are about robotics and future urbanization.