(12-21-2015 04:27 AM)serpico Wrote: Was going to post a new thread, but dunno if it's been touched on before -
Has Merkel and the like naused up Northern and Eastern Europe for guys that have a slightly 'ethnic', southern european, middle eastern look? I have the classic features of the region, dark eyes, olive skin. Could easily pass as Greek, Turkish, Italian, or heaven forbid Syrian...
Undoubtably places like Poland, Czech and the Baltics are experiencing huge rises in anti-immigration sentiment, quite rightly frankly, however this fuels a nationalistic and 'anti-outsider' outlook too. If you're classic white guy northern european, this wont be such an issue, but for others of more southern extraction it could be seriously detrimental...
Any thoughts?
(12-21-2015 03:53 AM)Fast Eddie Wrote: Religion is not necessary to galvanize a people and harness its incipient energies to combat threats both within and without.
Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Fuhrer.
Not saying it's good, just saying it "is." And it's just one example. Nationalism is a force at least as strong as religion and just as emotionally powerful. Which is exactly why it has been under vicious assault in the West, just as religion has been.
Quote:Yet one can be strong and impious at once (China today), or weak and pious at once (Britain and most of Europe in 793).
Quote:Moreover, as dreambig already mentioned, Japan could quite easily defend herself, and is only hindered in this by the US-written constitution (and it should be noted that the impracticality of the article in question should have been obvious before the ink was dry...it's the geopolitical cognate of prohibition).
Quote:Strength is a virtue contrary to those promoted by the New Testament, which champions the weak. You lionize the strong, which I agree with, but it seems a statement diametrically opposed to the scripture you seek to defend.
Quote:Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Quote:7 And to keep me from being too elated by the abundance of revelations, a thorn was given me in the flesh, a messenger of Satan, to harass me, to keep me from being too elated. 8 Three times I besought the Lord about this, that it should leave me; 9 but he said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.” I will all the more gladly boast of my weaknesses, that the power of Christ may rest upon me. 10 For the sake of Christ, then, I am content with weaknesses, insults, hardships, persecutions, and calamities; for when I am weak, then I am strong.
Quote:Easily fewer than the wars within Christendom, especially during the Reformation and Counterreformation. That aside, Japan's civil wars were not fueled by Shinto zealotry but by political allegiances, instability and ambition...the customary ingredients of most internecine conflicts. In fact, the groups that can be said to have been motivated chiefly by religious conviction were Buddhist or Christian.
Quote:In other words, of all the causes of the civil wars, Shinto cannot rightly be said to be among them. Most non-monotheist religions exhibit relatively little (if any) intolerance and flammability.
Quote:Millions of good Christian men were ordered to do exactly that on the hellish battlefields of WWI. And unlike a large portion of those suicidal charges into machine gun fire, at least the kamikaze held some discernible tactical and strategic value.
Quote:The scramble to acquire weapons comes amid an indisputable nationwide spike in migrant-driven crime, including rapes of German women and girls on a shocking scale, as well as physical assaults, stabbings, home invasions, robberies and burglaries — in cities and towns throughout the country.
German authorities, however, are going to great lengths to argue that the German citizenry's sudden interest in self-defense has nothing whatsoever to do with mass migration into the country, despite ample evidence to the contrary.
The spike in violent crimes committed by migrants has been corroborated by a leaked confidential police report, which reveals that a record-breaking 38,000 asylum seekers were accused of committing crimes in the country in 2014. Analysts believe this figure — which works out to more than 100 crimes a day — is only a fragment: many crimes are not reported.
"Anyone who asks for the reasons for the surge in weapons purchases encounters silence." — Süddeutsche Zeitung
Germans, facing an influx of more than one million asylum seekers from Africa, Asia and the Middle East, are rushing to arm themselves.
All across Germany, a country with some of the most stringent gun-control laws in Europe, demand is skyrocketing for non-lethal self-defense weapons, including pepper sprays, gas pistols, flare guns, electroshock weapons and animal repellants. Germans are also applying for weapons permits in record numbers.
The scramble to acquire weapons comes amid a migrant-driven surge in violent crimes — including rapes, robberies and aggravated assaults — in cities and towns throughout the country.
German authorities, however, are going to great lengths to argue that the German citizenry's sudden interest in self-defense has nothing whatsoever to do with mass migration into the country, despite ample evidence to the contrary.
In recent weeks, German newspapers have published dozens of stories with headlines such as: "Germany is Afraid — And Grabs for the Weapon," "Germans are Arming Themselves: The Demand for Weapons Explodes," "More and More People are Buying a Weapon," "Security: Hands Up!" "The Need for Security Increases," "Boom in Weapons Stores," and "Bavarians are Arming Themselves— Afraid of Refugees?"
Quote:Since Germany's migration crisis exploded in August 2015, nationwide sales of pepper spray have jumped by 600%, according to the German newsmagazine, Focus. Supplies of the product are now completely sold out in many parts of the country and additional stocks will not become available until 2016. "Manufacturers and distributors say the huge influx of foreigners in recent weeks has apparently frightened many people," Focus reports.
According to KH Security, a German manufacturer of self-defense products, demand is up by a factor of five, and sales in September 2015 — the month when the implications of German Chancellor Angela Merkel's open-door migration policy began to dawn on many Germans — were the highest since the company was founded 25 years ago. The company says there is an increased demand not only for self-defense weapons, but also for home alarm systems.
Another manufacturer of self-defense products, the Frankfurt-based company DEF-TEC Defense Technology, has reported a 600% increase in sales this fall. According to CEO Kai Prase:
"Things took off beginning in September. Since then, our dealers have been totally overrun. We have never experienced anything like this in the 21 years of our corporate history. Fear: This is not rational. The important term is: 'refugee crisis.'"
The same story is being repeated across Germany. According to the public broadcaster, Mitteldeutscher Rundfunk, citizens in Saxony can regularly be seen queuing up in large numbers waiting for gun shops to open.
A store owner in the Saxon town of Pirna said he is now selling up to 200 cans of pepper spray each day, compared to five cans a week before the migrant crisis began. He said he is seeing many new customers who are not the typical clientele, including women of all ages and men who are buying weapons for their wives.
Günter Fritz, the owner of a gun shop in Ebersbach, another town in Saxony, told RTL News, "Since September, all over Germany, also at my shop, sales of self-defense products have exploded." He added that his clients come from all walks of life, ranging "from the professor to the retired lady. All are afraid."
Andreas Reinhardt, a gun shop owner in the northern German town of Eutin, said he now sells four to five self-defense weapons each day, compared to around two per month before the recent influx of asylum seekers. "The current social upheaval is clearly driving the current rush to self-defense," he said. "I never thought that fear would spread so quickly," he added.
Eric Thiel, the owner of a gun shop in Flensburg, a city on the Baltic Sea coast, said that pepper spray is no longer available: "Everything is sold out. New supplies will not arrive until March. Everything that has to do with self-defense is booming enormously."
Wolfgang Mayer, the owner of a gun shop in Nördlingen, a town in Bavaria, said he has an explanation for the surge in gun licenses: "I think with the influx of refugees, the rise in break-ins and the many tricksters, the people are demanding greater protection."
Mayer added that there is a growing sense within German society that the state cannot adequately protect its citizens and therefore they have to better protect themselves. "Since the summer, sales of pepper spray have increased by 50%," Mayer said, adding that buyers are mainly women, of all ages — from the student in the city up to the widowed grandmother.
Pepper spray and other types of non-lethal self-defense weapons are legal in Germany, but a permit is required to carry and use some categories of them. Officials in all of Germany's 16 federal states are reporting a spike in applications for such permits, known as the small weapons license (kleinen Waffenschein).
(12-21-2015 12:39 PM)Samseau Wrote: China is a house of cards.
Quote:As for the weak and pious - It is better to be pious and weak than strong and impious. The pious will last the test of time long enough to become strong and pious.
The pious survive, while those who are merely strong all up like Ozymandias.
Quote:My point to Dreambig was that Japan would not be able to afford the same standards of living if they had to pay for their own military. So using Japan as an example of prosperity is a misleading example.
As for why they do not have a Military, that is because a Christian nation conquered them in self-defense and did not want them to have a military. I think the Japanese have changed tremendously since WW2 (no longer with primitive Emperor God worship) and I wouldn't be surprised to see America relax on Japan soon.
Quote:Simply false. It seems you have read more Nietzche than the actual Bible. Let me break the news to you: Nietzsche's characterization of Christianity with "slave morality" is 100% bullshit contradicted by many, many, many passages within the good book.
Matthew 10:34:
Quote:Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
If Christ wanted us to be like slaves then why did he come to bring war?
Quote:Notice, the point about being weak is to please God and therefore be strong, because nothing is stronger than God. So the Christian man, while apparently weak, is actually the strongest because he has God behind him.
Quote:Elaborating further, we can understand the values of Christ to build strong communities and nations over time by not exalting any one member of the community over another. Hence, "Love thy neighbor as thyself," which unlike the Romans or pagans, prevents needless conflict and civil war.
Thus, the man who is weak but pious is doing much more for his community than the man who is strong, selfish, and impious, and ultimately sacrifices his community for his own gain.
There is no slavery here; men called for Christ are allowed to come voluntarily, promote kindness among their neighbors and not obsessed with being the "strongest," which is a laughable ideal because God is stronger than everyone put together.
Quote:The vast, vast majority of wars within Christendom were over political allegiances, instability, and ambition.
Quote:The facts of the matter, however, were that the wars within Christendom never lead to the establishment of an absolute God Emperor dictator like it did in Japan (although the Pope came close, but the people revolted with Protestantism). So it is easy to see how Japan was rendered inferior due to the lack of God.
Quote:Again, simply untrue. Those wars in Japan, without even having read the history of half of them myself, were obviously between men who were claiming their divine right as ruler of Japan. Just like it was in China. Perhaps it did not have as many as China, but given that Christian nations rarely fought each other over religion except during the reformation, I can't see how any other conclusion can be arrived at that Japan was impoverished by their lack of strong faith which caused them to ultimately self-destruct in insane wars of aggression during the 20th century.
Quote:Those men weren't charging in for the name of their King god, they did it for their neighbor, for glory, or for their country. Secular, not religious.
Quote:The men who charged battle lines in the name of Christ really only happened during Constantine the Great, the wars against Islam (1st Crusade and a few of Russia's wars included), and America's Manifest destiny.
(12-21-2015 06:23 AM)H1N1 Wrote:(12-21-2015 03:53 AM)Fast Eddie Wrote: Religion is not necessary to galvanize a people and harness its incipient energies to combat threats both within and without.
Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Fuhrer.
Not saying it's good, just saying it "is." And it's just one example. Nationalism is a force at least as strong as religion and just as emotionally powerful. Which is exactly why it has been under vicious assault in the West, just as religion has been.
This is the same thing that is happening in our schools with Leftism. Children are growing up believing in values they perceive as metaphysical, and all their thinking is done with reference to these values. Because 'equality' is an a priori good to them, they are unable to effectively question the validity of that truth.
Quote:Congress Votes To Fund Nearly 300,000 Visas For Muslim Migrants In One Year
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(12-21-2015 01:03 PM)Samseau Wrote: Meanwhile, in Germany...
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-12-21...iven-crime
Germans Scramble To Buy Weapons Amid Nationwide Spike In Migrant-Driven Crime
Quote:The scramble to acquire weapons comes amid an indisputable nationwide spike in migrant-driven crime, including rapes of German women and girls on a shocking scale, as well as physical assaults, stabbings, home invasions, robberies and burglaries — in cities and towns throughout the country.
German authorities, however, are going to great lengths to argue that the German citizenry's sudden interest in self-defense has nothing whatsoever to do with mass migration into the country, despite ample evidence to the contrary.
The spike in violent crimes committed by migrants has been corroborated by a leaked confidential police report, which reveals that a record-breaking 38,000 asylum seekers were accused of committing crimes in the country in 2014. Analysts believe this figure — which works out to more than 100 crimes a day — is only a fragment: many crimes are not reported.
"Anyone who asks for the reasons for the surge in weapons purchases encounters silence." — Süddeutsche Zeitung
Germans, facing an influx of more than one million asylum seekers from Africa, Asia and the Middle East, are rushing to arm themselves.
All across Germany, a country with some of the most stringent gun-control laws in Europe, demand is skyrocketing for non-lethal self-defense weapons, including pepper sprays, gas pistols, flare guns, electroshock weapons and animal repellants. Germans are also applying for weapons permits in record numbers.
The scramble to acquire weapons comes amid a migrant-driven surge in violent crimes — including rapes, robberies and aggravated assaults — in cities and towns throughout the country.
German authorities, however, are going to great lengths to argue that the German citizenry's sudden interest in self-defense has nothing whatsoever to do with mass migration into the country, despite ample evidence to the contrary.
In recent weeks, German newspapers have published dozens of stories with headlines such as: "Germany is Afraid — And Grabs for the Weapon," "Germans are Arming Themselves: The Demand for Weapons Explodes," "More and More People are Buying a Weapon," "Security: Hands Up!" "The Need for Security Increases," "Boom in Weapons Stores," and "Bavarians are Arming Themselves— Afraid of Refugees?"
Quote:Since Germany's migration crisis exploded in August 2015, nationwide sales of pepper spray have jumped by 600%, according to the German newsmagazine, Focus. Supplies of the product are now completely sold out in many parts of the country and additional stocks will not become available until 2016. "Manufacturers and distributors say the huge influx of foreigners in recent weeks has apparently frightened many people," Focus reports.
According to KH Security, a German manufacturer of self-defense products, demand is up by a factor of five, and sales in September 2015 — the month when the implications of German Chancellor Angela Merkel's open-door migration policy began to dawn on many Germans — were the highest since the company was founded 25 years ago. The company says there is an increased demand not only for self-defense weapons, but also for home alarm systems.
Another manufacturer of self-defense products, the Frankfurt-based company DEF-TEC Defense Technology, has reported a 600% increase in sales this fall. According to CEO Kai Prase:
"Things took off beginning in September. Since then, our dealers have been totally overrun. We have never experienced anything like this in the 21 years of our corporate history. Fear: This is not rational. The important term is: 'refugee crisis.'"
The same story is being repeated across Germany. According to the public broadcaster, Mitteldeutscher Rundfunk, citizens in Saxony can regularly be seen queuing up in large numbers waiting for gun shops to open.
A store owner in the Saxon town of Pirna said he is now selling up to 200 cans of pepper spray each day, compared to five cans a week before the migrant crisis began. He said he is seeing many new customers who are not the typical clientele, including women of all ages and men who are buying weapons for their wives.
Günter Fritz, the owner of a gun shop in Ebersbach, another town in Saxony, told RTL News, "Since September, all over Germany, also at my shop, sales of self-defense products have exploded." He added that his clients come from all walks of life, ranging "from the professor to the retired lady. All are afraid."
Andreas Reinhardt, a gun shop owner in the northern German town of Eutin, said he now sells four to five self-defense weapons each day, compared to around two per month before the recent influx of asylum seekers. "The current social upheaval is clearly driving the current rush to self-defense," he said. "I never thought that fear would spread so quickly," he added.
Eric Thiel, the owner of a gun shop in Flensburg, a city on the Baltic Sea coast, said that pepper spray is no longer available: "Everything is sold out. New supplies will not arrive until March. Everything that has to do with self-defense is booming enormously."
Wolfgang Mayer, the owner of a gun shop in Nördlingen, a town in Bavaria, said he has an explanation for the surge in gun licenses: "I think with the influx of refugees, the rise in break-ins and the many tricksters, the people are demanding greater protection."
Mayer added that there is a growing sense within German society that the state cannot adequately protect its citizens and therefore they have to better protect themselves. "Since the summer, sales of pepper spray have increased by 50%," Mayer said, adding that buyers are mainly women, of all ages — from the student in the city up to the widowed grandmother.
Pepper spray and other types of non-lethal self-defense weapons are legal in Germany, but a permit is required to carry and use some categories of them. Officials in all of Germany's 16 federal states are reporting a spike in applications for such permits, known as the small weapons license (kleinen Waffenschein).
My predictions of millions of criminal victims within the a few years of the onset of the crisis is well underway of becoming true. If the truth is ever found out, I am sure most men will be disgusted with the total number of rapes. It may even exceed 1 million within Germany alone by the end of 2020, with tens of thousands women being raped more than once.
I am 100% confident the same things are happening in all Western European nations, wherever the migrants go.
Obviously, only the most brainwashed will continue to vote for migrant enrichment, so I expect to see the right to vote handed out to migrants within a year so the left can permanently control their elections.
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Lech Wałęsa Wrote:I understand why Poland and Europe fear their influx... They arrive from places where people are beheaded. We are worried that the same will happen to us.
We in Poland have small flats, low salaries and meager pensions. Watching the refugees on television, I noticed that they look better than us. They are well fed, well dressed and maybe even are richer than we are.
I do understand them. We Poles also were immigrants and refugees during communism. But wherever we went, we respected the local culture and laws. These immigrants are different. Even second or third generations – look at France, for example – who got good education and made money still turned against the host countries.
I was offered by the Communist regime to leave Poland and become a refugee. I declined. I stayed on to fight for what I believed in. It’s true that part of the new refugees and immigrants leave because they fear for their life. But many also immigrate to improve their standards of living and quality of life.
It’s a problem. If Europe opens its gates, soon millions will come through and while living among us will start exercising their own customs, including beheading.
(12-21-2015 02:40 PM)Saga Wrote:Quote:Notice, the point about being weak is to please God and therefore be strong, because nothing is stronger than God. So the Christian man, while apparently weak, is actually the strongest because he has God behind him.
This interpretation, while still something of a logical leap, seems to be quite an explanation for the approach that's ripped Christendom apart on many occasions.
Once a religion views itself the only one with God behind it, and is then unable to perceive other traditions and rituals as anything but false (and therefore a threat), it gives itself the ability to create hell in this world in the name of paradise in the next. The brutality leveled against the pagans, then the Arians, then the Waldensians, then the Albigensians, then the Protestants by the Catholics and the Catholics by the Protestants, then the Quakers (several of whom were hanged in the "city on the hill" of Puritan Boston in 1660 simply for being Quaker)...and so on and so on...proves this.
It comes from a monotheist predilection to seek supremacy. These wars and persecutions were not some Baroque oddity but rather a committed pattern of violence, conflict and upheaval based on religious orthodoxy. Even the 100 Years War, which started over dynastic squabbles, turned into a holy conflict when the French claimant to the crown found its champion in Joan of Arc, who claimed that God himself wanted the English out of France.
(12-21-2015 01:11 AM)dreambig Wrote: Talk of degeneracy is all relative. Japan is 100x more "civilised" than any western country. Ethically and moralistically there is still a strong social contract that is founded upon principles of Confucianism, Buddhism (though the religion is not so practiced) and human decency. You guys sitting in your armchairs need to buy a ticket and see it for yourself.
(12-20-2015 05:51 PM)Saga Wrote:(12-20-2015 05:31 PM)Samseau Wrote: Neither of your examples prove what you assert. Both countries would have totally conquered by now without the protection of the Christian USA.
As would have the Christian Britain of 1941...without the help of the Christian USA and communist-atheist Soviet Union. Military might alone is a poor measurement of religious veracity.
(12-21-2015 11:26 PM)TonySandos Wrote: Paracelsus; which St. Augustine are you referring to?
Quote:Usually, even a non-Christian knows something about the earth, the heavens, and the other elements of this world, about the motion and orbit of the stars and even their size and relative positions, about the predictable eclipses of the sun and moon, the cycles of the years and the seasons, about the kinds of animals, shrubs, stones, and so forth, and this knowledge he holds to as being certain from reason and experience. Now, it is a disgraceful and dangerous thing for an infidel to hear a Christian, presumably giving the meaning of Holy Scripture, talking nonsense on these topics; and we should take all means to prevent such an embarrassing situation, in which people show up vast ignorance in a Christian and laugh it to scorn. The shame is not so much that an ignorant individual is derided, but that people outside the household of faith think our sacred writers held such opinions, and, to the great loss of those for whose salvation we toil, the writers of our Scripture are criticized and rejected as unlearned men. If they find a Christian mistaken in a field which they themselves know well and hear him maintaining his foolish opinions about our books, how are they going to believe those books in matters concerning the resurrection of the dead, the hope of eternal life, and the kingdom of heaven, when they think their pages are full of falsehoods and on facts which they themselves have learnt from experience and the light of reason? Reckless and incompetent expounders of Holy Scripture bring untold trouble and sorrow on their wiser brethren when they are caught in one of their mischievous false opinions and are taken to task by those who are not bound by the authority of our sacred books. For then, to defend their utterly foolish and obviously untrue statements, they will try to call upon Holy Scripture for proof and even recite from memory many passages which they think support their position, although they understand neither what they say nor the things about which they make assertion.
(12-20-2015 12:08 PM)AManLikePutin Wrote: Been on a streak of Watching almost all videos of Pat Condell on YouTube about this issue now.
A brave, well-spoken man. Recommended for all
(12-21-2015 04:07 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote: Samseau - Germany will not reach 1 million rapes per year ever because it has what the US, Canada and Sweden don't have - rampant cheap brothels. You can even find the occasional young pretty girl to fuck for 30-50 EUR. The smaller towns with massive populations may be impacted more, but it will not reach Sweden's scale, where prostitution is as good as illegal and anyone with money does seekingarrangement.com while the poor man is not getting much.
Any country that legalizes prostitution instantly observes two things - dramatic fall in rape (as observed in Rhode Island where they experimented briefly with legalization) and a sharp fall in prices. Sweden however - you are right - they will surpass African countries soon and will become the rape country in the entire world if they continue with this madness.
Here Sargon of Akkad's latest vid on Sweden's rape crisis:
(12-21-2015 11:22 PM)Eskhander Wrote:(12-21-2015 01:11 AM)dreambig Wrote: Talk of degeneracy is all relative. Japan is 100x more "civilised" than any western country. Ethically and moralistically there is still a strong social contract that is founded upon principles of Confucianism, Buddhism (though the religion is not so practiced) and human decency. You guys sitting in your armchairs need to buy a ticket and see it for yourself.
Then why are the safest countries still Western? While Japan certainly lacks many of the issues plaguing the West it is rather incorrect to say it is more civilized on the whole.

(12-22-2015 07:13 AM)NewMeta Wrote: Here's a cool public protest done in Austria: