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amity · 2015-12-22 07:55:00 · #5626
@Zelcorpion Exactly. This is the modus operandi of the SJWs, do not allow your opponents a voice, as to do so would show how groundless and illogical your own position is.
It's infuriating sometimes to see how sheeplike so many (especially 20s/30s) women, particularly single or single-ish women are, they just go with the populist flow, they're incredibly susceptible to Groupthink.
Of course many men are too, but you can at least hope to engage some of these men in rational debate, I've found it almost impossible to do this with most women, it quickly descends into shouting or verbal abuse(racist, etc) or getting upset/crying, whereby white knights rush in.
marty · 2015-12-22 10:38:00 · #5627
(12-22-2015 03:55 AM)amity Wrote:  Thanks Horus, it's another excellent, thought provoking video from Stefan.

On another semi-related point, I came across this clip today, by a Muslim woman who's trying to highlight how political correctness among liberals and our political leaders is allowing radical Islam to flourish.
As the woman is herself Muslim, liberals and SJWs cannot cry "Racist!" or "Islamaphobe!" without revealing themselves as both retarded and complete hypocrites.
I've said it before but it's worth repeating that such videos are probably the best way to try and stir some pre-frontal cortex activity among friends and colleagues on social media and help people to slowly wake up to reality rather than believing the propaganda they're fed by MSM and academia.
I realise now that I went a bit too gung-ho on social media and alienated some people that might have been more open to my ideas had I presented a video like this one, rather than some alt-right videos with ominious music of Muslims rioting and how they were going to destroy the West forever and rape and pillage our countries. I'm not saying that's not true but the average millennial is not going to respond well to that, while there's a better chance of something like this having a positive effect.



That's a great video and quite scary as well. My only caveat would be how the guy arguing with Ben Affleck talks about "they hold views about human rights, about women, about homosexuals that are deeply troubling" and the lady joins in with "these studies paint a picture of an Islamic world that is increasingly out of step with the modern world". What modern world? That gay people should be applauded and women can have sex with anyone without any repercussions? That's bullshit. I agree executing the guilty or especially innocent people are disgusting but it has nothing to do with the "modern world". Either it's inherently wrong or it's not. And the Islamic viewpoint on gay people might be closer to mine than the leftist mainstream media's. Anyway, I hope this video can open at least some PC eyes.

I didn't know Ben Affleck was such an over-the-top SJW. I guess I won't be bothered to watch any more of his films then.
NewMeta · 2015-12-22 11:13:00 · #5628
(12-22-2015 07:38 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  
(12-22-2015 07:13 AM)NewMeta Wrote:  Here's a cool public protest done in Austria:




That's a great protest. Look how violent the leftists get and want to disrupt it. At first some other men shield the protest and then later on the cops take over from them and create a cordon as the shrieking mostly female idiots surround the small group of men.

Ay - SJWs are the totalitarian marxists - they would want to kill all opposition. By the way - I know the Austrian police and they very likely share the opinions of the activists.

And again it shows that more masculine stronger men defend liberty while women and feeble leftists try to tear down civilization and usher in a new marxist fuck-topia.

It's the small details that count, the refugees welcome signs and the male victim who looked like your typical beta male SJW hipster (maybe not intended but hilarious nonetheless).
Phoenix · 2015-12-22 11:23:00 · #5629
(12-22-2015 10:38 AM)marty Wrote:  


It's democracy. It's the root cause of this insanity. The social power of lunatics is supposed to be 0. The social power of the wise, upstanding, respected men of wealth is supposed to be very high. Under what degenerate system do both have equal say in things? Churchill's quip has been proven thoroughly wrong.

Whenever I see those clips of the swarms I literally believe I'm watching some kind of zombie movie or some kind of dream of an insane asylum inmate.

How would kings meet such a phenomenon? Would they be making speeches on TV about how "we should welcome them into our country with open arms and give them freebies", or would they be amassing ranks of soldiers at the border with instruction to fire on sight until they run out of ammo?

Europe's existence literally depends on the return of kings.
RaccoonFace · 2015-12-22 12:07:00 · #5630
'Massive fraud discovered in Bremen's parliamentary election favoring the left (Google-translated)'
https://translate.google.com/translate?s...edit-text=
Anabasis to Desta · 2015-12-22 12:40:00 · #5631
I'm sure Germany and Sweden were not picked by the globalist elites as dumping grounds for refugees by accident.

I'm very familiar with Germans and their culture. Despite being hard working, perfectionist, punctual and honest people which translates well to the economy ... Germans are also pathologically law abiding. Laws and rules are sacred in German culture. No cars from either side of the road in sight at 4 am in the morning? A German will most likely wait 45 seconds until the light turns green for him to cross. Laws are laws and no matter how messed up Germans follow them. On par with the Japanese, I think Germans are the perfect population to rule over if you're a leader.

This stuff would never fly in America. Americans are rebels by birth. Might not seem that way for those of you born and raised here. But as a foreigner living in America, I see it everywhere.

Americans have this very unique "anything is possible" attitude. When you talk to an American, no matter how poor or down on their luck at the moment ... you hear optimism. A certain drive and fire to make something out of themselves. A broke nigga from South Side, Chicago will happily try to sell you his "fresh new mix-tape" on the street in hopes of getting signed to Def-Jam records. Some hot, broke and dumb Wisconsin community college girl will drop out of school and drive her 1995 Honda Civic to LA to chase her dream of becoming an actress. A West Virginia hill-billy who didn't graduate high-school will enthusiastically tell you about how he wants to finish up his GED , work in the coal mines, make some money and own an "Auto Body-shop" in Tennessee.

“Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.”
― Ronald Wright, A Short History of Progress

This same attitude manifests itself politically. Unlike any other country ... Americans have this idea that the government is not above them. The idea that if they protest hard enough, things can change. The Bible thumper who lives in la-la land and campaigns for Bible-studies to be reintroduced to Elementary schools. Or the green-haired liberal bitch who tosses Molotov cocktails at an anti-abortion rally. In America ... laws are meant to be changed if you don't like them. Anything is possible. I remember back in freshman year of college the cops busted our frat party. The party hosts, a group of jacked dudebros refuse to let the cops in because they don't have a warrant. Things got out of hand and while getting arrested & pushed into the cop car these two bros yell to the cops " I'll see you in court motherfucker. This is Americaa!!". That would never happen in law-abiding Germany.

That's why American elections cost 2.5 Billion dollars, briefly divide the country and inspire passion worldwide. It's hard to buy the loyalty of born rebels.

Western Europeans however disgust me. Their so called "sophistication", anti-Americanism and dressing well is nothing more than armor. Armor against people finding out how big of pussies they are. No drive, passion or willingness to stand for what they believe in.

Just a bunch of sheep with a superiority complex ... so goats i guess. (Excluding Brits)
rw95 · 2015-12-22 12:46:00 · #5632
(12-22-2015 11:23 AM)Phoenix Wrote:  
(12-22-2015 10:38 AM)marty Wrote:  


It's democracy. It's the root cause of this insanity. The social power of lunatics is supposed to be 0. The social power of the wise, upstanding, respected men of wealth is supposed to be very high. Under what degenerate system do both have equal say in things? Churchill's quip has been proven thoroughly wrong.

Whenever I see those clips of the swarms I literally believe I'm watching some kind of zombie movie or some kind of dream of an insane asylum inmate.

How would kings meet such a phenomenon? Would they be making speeches on TV about how "we should welcome them into our country with open arms and give them freebies", or would they be amassing ranks of soldiers at the border with instruction to fire on sight until they run out of ammo?

Europe's existence literally depends on the return of kings.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Monarchy may very well be the only way to have a stable form of government, but WHO'S TO BE THE MONARCH?
CleanSlate · 2015-12-22 12:48:00 · #5633
(12-22-2015 12:40 PM)Anabasis to Desta Wrote:  That's why American elections cost 2.5 Billion dollars, briefly divide the country and inspire passion worldwide. It's hard to buy the loyalty of born rebels.

Interesting perspective of America from a foreigner. Where are you from?
Anabasis to Desta · 2015-12-22 12:53:00 · #5634
^Thanks man.

I'm Ethiopian.
TonySandos · 2015-12-22 13:46:00 · #5635
Anabasis to Desta, I don't know how long you've been here and I've already repped you, nut I have to say you're incredibly insightful. I have to laugh at how you picked apart the common them of motivation and capitalistic lifeblood of the country already. You've done what not every foreign born citizen can do and even enlightened us on why US elections captivate outsiders. I find that interesting. Also yea... fuck the snooty attitudes of our compatriots. The situation they're in now is enough of an "I told you so" to satisfy me though.
porscheguy · 2015-12-22 13:50:00 · #5636
(12-22-2015 12:40 PM)Anabasis to Desta Wrote:  I'm sure Germany and Sweden were not picked by the globalist elites as dumping grounds for refugees by accident.

I'm very familiar with Germans and their culture. Despite being hard working, perfectionist, punctual and honest people which translates well to the economy ... Germans are also pathologically law abiding. Laws and rules are sacred in German culture. No cars from either side of the road in sight at 4 am in the morning? A German will most likely wait 45 seconds until the light turns green for him to cross. Laws are laws and no matter how messed up Germans follow them. On par with the Japanese, I think Germans are the perfect population to rule over if you're a leader.
I believe it was Stalin who observed that if you ordered a platoon of German soldiers to seize a train, the first thing they would do is stop at the gate and purchase boarding passes.
TonySandos · 2015-12-22 14:05:00 · #5637
(12-22-2015 01:50 PM)porscheguy Wrote:  
(12-22-2015 12:40 PM)Anabasis to Desta Wrote:  I'm sure Germany and Sweden were not picked by the globalist elites as dumping grounds for refugees by accident.

I'm very familiar with Germans and their culture. Despite being hard working, perfectionist, punctual and honest people which translates well to the economy ... Germans are also pathologically law abiding. Laws and rules are sacred in German culture. No cars from either side of the road in sight at 4 am in the morning? A German will most likely wait 45 seconds until the light turns green for him to cross. Laws are laws and no matter how messed up Germans follow them. On par with the Japanese, I think Germans are the perfect population to rule over if you're a leader.
I believe it was Stalin who observed that if you ordered a platoon of German soldiers to seize a train, the first thing they would do is stop at the gate and purchase boarding passes.


Not to sound like the resident NAZI

but on that note, you guys should look into some deeper world war 2 history. I've only recently started myself and I have to say that I'm in awe of soldierly composition. Call them bad guys or not, but their fought chivalrously for their people and tried to uphold a similar standard in engagements while still being ferocious. It's actually some of the minor ethnic group slotted SS units with scores to settle like the Cossacks that set the cold reputations.











scotian · 2015-12-22 15:37:00 · #5638
"Brownshirts are back" as Muslim "sharia police" patrol German streets -- with official approval


quino_16 · 2015-12-22 15:45:00 · #5639
(12-22-2015 12:40 PM)Anabasis to Desta Wrote:  This stuff would never fly in America. Americans are rebels by birth. Might not seem that way for those of you born and raised here. But as a foreigner living in America, I see it everywhere.

Americans have this very unique "anything is possible" attitude. When you talk to an American, no matter how poor or down on their luck at the moment ... you hear optimism. A certain drive and fire to make something out of themselves. A broke nigga from South Side, Chicago will happily try to sell you his "fresh new mix-tape" on the street in hopes of getting signed to Def-Jam records. Some hot, broke and dumb Wisconsin community college girl will drop out of school and drive her 1995 Honda Civic to LA to chase her dream of becoming an actress. A West Virginia hill-billy who didn't graduate high-school will enthusiastically tell you about how he wants to finish up his GED , work in the coal mines, make some money and own an "Auto Body-shop" in Tennessee.

“Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.”
― Ronald Wright, A Short History of Progress

This same attitude manifests itself politically. Unlike any other country ... Americans have this idea that the government is not above them. The idea that if they protest hard enough, things can change. The Bible thumper who lives in la-la land and campaigns for Bible-studies to be reintroduced to Elementary schools. Or the green-haired liberal bitch who tosses Molotov cocktails at an anti-abortion rally. In America ... laws are meant to be changed if you don't like them. Anything is possible. I remember back in freshman year of college the cops busted our frat party. The party hosts, a group of jacked dudebros refuse to let the cops in because they don't have a warrant. Things got out of hand and while getting arrested & pushed into the cop car these two bros yell to the cops " I'll see you in court motherfucker. This is Americaa!!". That would never happen in law-abiding Germany.

That's why American elections cost 2.5 Billion dollars, briefly divide the country and inspire passion worldwide. It's hard to buy the loyalty of born rebels.

Western Europeans however disgust me. Their so called "sophistication", anti-Americanism and dressing well is nothing more than armor. Armor against people finding out how big of pussies they are. No drive, passion or willingness to stand for what they believe in.

Just a bunch of sheep with a superiority complex ... so goats i guess. (Excluding Brits)

I wouldn't necessarily call Americans rebels. After all, the majority of white Americans have some German ancestry.

However, you do bring up two important points about American culture, which makes it different from European culture.

The first being the high social mobility in America compared to Europe. And, the second being the high distrust of Americans towards the government.

Although the high social mobility is one of America's greatest strengths, it is also one one of its greatest weaknesses. For example, it is the high social mobility of America that allowed disingenuous individuals to gain power and, then slowly kill America from within. Furthermore, the high social mobility of America is also why - to paraphrase Oscar Wilde - "America went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between."

Also, people around the world pay attention to the elections in US because American media is ubiquitous given that the United States is the world's leading hegemony.

I do agree with you that America still has a will to fight. However, it does not have strong identity. Western Europe has a strong identity but no will to defend itself. Consequently, the survival of Western Civilization depends on America rediscovering its identity as a country founded by Western Europeans.
Zelcorpion · 2015-12-22 17:32:00 · #5640
(12-22-2015 03:45 PM)quino_16 Wrote:  
(12-22-2015 12:40 PM)Anabasis to Desta Wrote:  “Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.”
― Ronald Wright, A Short History of Progress

Just a bunch of sheep with a superiority complex ... so goats i guess. (Excluding Brits)

Although the high social mobility is one of America's greatest strengths, it is also one one of its greatest weaknesses. For example, it is the high social mobility of America that allowed disingenuous individuals to gain power and, then slowly kill America from within. Furthermore, the high social mobility of America is also why - to paraphrase Oscar Wilde - "America went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between."

The US has one of the worst social mobility scales in the developed world. Those countries like Germany or socialist places that so many make fun of like Sweden have way higher social mobility. The only difference is that if you make it in the US, then you usually make it bigger. But that is no solace to the bloke who has 20% the chance of reaching a higher socio-economic scale than in Denmark.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socio-econ...rent_state

[Image: 450px-Intergenerational_mobility_graph-1.jpg]

I usually don't quote wikipedia, but that stuff is widely studied and everyone knows it to be true who saw the US and European state of social mobility. It can be seen even with naked eyes, but the statistics are even worse. The US is one of the worst places in the developed world to reach a higher socio-economic level. The only thing that you can do however is that if you make it, then you make it way bigger than in Denmark or Germany.

I see this irrational exuberance everywhere in the US - and it is the worst among the women there. I have once organized a short artistic exhibition at a conference in the US - there were some 100 American youth and college students there and some 30 Europeans and Africans. When I told the other organizers that we could just call up someone who has some abilities like singing, dancing or a musical instrument, they advised me not to do that. The reason was simply that Americans would just come up on stage not being able to do shit. In Europe only those who have reached some kind of mastery at their craft would go up on stage. In the US everyone is a star from the get-go despite sometimes not knowing jack shit.

It is the same spirit that is at one time something positive as folk don't give up, but on the other hand it's negative, because it does not deal with reality. That is why the poor and wide sections of the middle class got clobbered into oblivion since the 1980s:

[Image: 41C1CVEGOfL._SX352_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg]

Yeah - if everyone considers himself a stunted millionaire, then there will never be a meaningful change.

I think that the propaganda is just of a different sort in the US - the mentalities are certainly different, but I would not call them superior in general - only in some areas.
El Chinito loco · 2015-12-22 17:39:00 · #5641
^^^

Irrational exuberance is a pretty good description of the American psyche sometimes and it's bordering on delusional. There's a general belief in many people (U.S. conservative and liberal alike) that everyone is just a single step away from becoming a millionaire. Also if you look at the gini coefficient the U.S. is quite terrible when it comes to wealth gaps...as bad as the developing world. It's just that the U.S. GDP is so large that it's difficult to notice this in daily life sometimes.

In America it's not hard to go from poor to middle class. However, it's quite difficult to go from middle to upper-middle class and maintain that status.

It's also becoming more difficult every year to just maintain middle class for various reasons.
Neo · 2015-12-22 17:43:00 · #5642
(12-22-2015 05:32 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  The US has one of the worst social mobility scales in the developed world. Those countries like Germany or socialist places that so many make fun of like Sweden have way higher social mobility. The only difference is that if you make it in the US, then you usually make it bigger. But that is no solace to the bloke who has 20% the chance of reaching a higher socio-economic scale than in Denmark.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socio-econ...rent_state

[Image: 450px-Intergenerational_mobility_graph-1.jpg]

I usually don't quote wikipedia, but that stuff is widely studied and everyone knows it to be true who saw the US and European state of social mobility. It can be seen even with naked eyes, but the statistics are even worse. The US is one of the worst places in the developed world to reach a higher socio-economic level. The only thing that you can do however is that if you make it, then you make it way bigger than in Denmark or Germany.

I see this irrational exuberance everywhere in the US - and it is the worst among the women there. I have once organized a short artistic exhibition at a conference in the US - there were some 100 American youth and college students there and some 30 Europeans and Africans. When I told the other organizers that we could just call up someone who has some abilities like singing, dancing or a musical instrument, they advised me not to do that. The reason was simply that Americans would just come up on stage not being able to do shit. In Europe only those who have reached some kind of mastery at their craft would go up on stage. In the US everyone is a star from the get-go despite sometimes not knowing jack shit.

It is the same spirit that is at one time something positive as folk don't give up, but on the other hand it's negative, because it does not deal with reality. That is why the poor and wide sections of the middle class got clobbered into oblivion since the 1980s:

[Image: 41C1CVEGOfL._SX352_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg]

Yeah - if everyone considers himself a stunted millionaire, then there will never be a meaningful change.

I think that the propaganda is just of a different sort in the US - the mentalities are certainly different, but I would not call them superior in general - only in some areas.

This is one of my biggest pet peeves with the culture here. On one hand, I'm happy that I was born in the US and have the American can do attitude, however I stay on the realistic side. Both of my parents were immigrants from a S. American country, that has similar attitudes when it comes to 'skill'.

Most people I meet are delusional and have no criteria for what they consider 'mastery.' They have extremely high confidence that they are good, but the reality shows that they are not.

True mastery takes years of practice. I see it all the time in my martial arts classes. Guy takes a few classes and all of a sudden is an expert in fighting and posting ridiculous things.

What's even sadder is how many people lack the critical thinking skills to see through the charade. With the use of social media and such, the BS pile has gone through the roof.
Going strong · 2015-12-22 19:44:00 · #5643
Below, an article written some time ago by SJWs, where they justify that illegal migrants tell lies to enter Western countries: basically SJWs say that we Westerners are guilty "because we don't let the migrants any other option than cheating and lying, so they are compelled to lie"!

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/20...-liar.html

Our immigration laws "put asylum-seekers in a position where they may feel they have no other choice than lying."!?
And this is how SJWs define truth, as a volatile, ill-defined concept:

"When the issue of potentially falsifying testimony comes up, it tends to paint all asylum claimants in black and white. Either you tell the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, 100 percent of the time, or you’re not telling the truth and you have some sort of nefarious purpose. I don’t think that the reality is that stark."

Anyway, the article is a few years old, from a time when we actually asked some questions to migrants (and the poor migrants had to lie, a traumatic experience no doubt). Now, they just arrive without proposing any explanation, they cross the border before we've had any chance to interrogate them: they don't need to bother lying anymore.
thisisright · 2015-12-22 19:55:00 · #5644
Another thing about Americans. They complain a lot. They think that they always should have the "best" thing because they are the "first" and most "powerful". It's like they assume it.

For example, Americans complain how slow their internet connection is, and how ridiculous the service is. They'll go and write 500 articles about it and shame the companies, politicians, etc...

The truth is, the US ranks 12 [ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co...ion_speeds ]. Except for Japan and South Korea, all the other top countries are small countries. Even Japan is well concentrated with its huge population.

It's difficult to have a fast internet when you have 1. a large population, 2. a very large geographic area and 3. a bureaucratic government. So it seems to me that they US is doing a lot better than what its people really think.

Another thing with the US. It has the ability to fix problems at a large scale, and with superior technology to any other country. Getting back to our example, Google is trying to solve the Internet speed problem with Google fiber: https://fiber.google.com/about/

It's only a matter of time before other ISPs catch-up and Google did set the bar "VERY" high. It's not 20, 30 or 100MB. It's 1Gbs. That's crazy fast. Probably faster than what your PC can handle.

No other country has Google. So the ability of other countries is really limited by their governments.
Phoenix · 2015-12-23 05:17:00 · #5645
(12-22-2015 12:46 PM)rw95 Wrote:  
(12-22-2015 11:23 AM)Phoenix Wrote:  Europe's existence literally depends on the return of kings.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Monarchy may very well be the only way to have a stable form of government, but WHO'S TO BE THE MONARCH?

The son of the last one. (To be specific, for Germany that would be: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georg_Frie...of_Prussia )

That's the whole idea. It's 'his' country, and thus he has a vested incentive not to fuck it up, and to protect it. So he will do so. He also has a vested incentive to do whatever the fuck he wants within that, which is why you counter-balance that with a co-equal noble and democratically-elected house.

The opposite of that is a temporary, mentally-diseased fuck-up like Merkel, who has no children, and who has no long-term incentives, and literally sees no problem with setting fire to the country for her own sick fetish reasons.
NewMeta · 2015-12-23 06:15:00 · #5646
Poland's always a source of good news amongst the shit spread of migrants in the west, a couple of weeks ago they appointed 5 judges to the constitutional court, Poland's highest judicial body, in an attempt some might say to undermine the democratic process. It emulates what Viktor Orban did for Hungary, but as we should all know by now democracy is dumb anyway, I'm completely neutral in that regard if not all for it:

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-poland...GL20151219

Seems to be a lot of opposition to that decision if the thousands that came out in protest of it remain true.

More recently Poland is going to have a media reform with a purpose that serves the national interests of the country and not to push shitty world propaganda:

http://www.dw.com/en/polands-new-governm...a-18935488

It's a very interesting read which makes me hopeful that Poland will bounce back from furthering western degenerate culture influences.
LE50 · 2015-12-23 06:31:00 · #5647
(12-23-2015 05:17 AM)Phoenix Wrote:  
(12-22-2015 12:46 PM)rw95 Wrote:  
(12-22-2015 11:23 AM)Phoenix Wrote:  Europe's existence literally depends on the return of kings.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Monarchy may very well be the only way to have a stable form of government, but WHO'S TO BE THE MONARCH?

The son of the last one. (To be specific, for Germany that would be: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georg_Frie...of_Prussia )

That's the whole idea. It's 'his' country, and thus he has a vested incentive not to fuck it up, and to protect it. So he will do so. He also has a vested incentive to do whatever the fuck he wants within that, which is why you counter-balance that with a co-equal noble and democratically-elected house.

The opposite of that is a temporary, mentally-diseased fuck-up like Merkel, who has no children, and who has no long-term incentives, and literally sees no problem with setting fire to the country for her own sick fetish reasons.

You're kidding, right?


The idea of a single ruler might be the way to go, but to choose the ruler basically at random is.... well, no. Just no.

Also you're implying that Merkel is the ruler right now and she somehow decides on what's going to happen. The fact that that's untrue is at the very core of our problems in this world. She's a puppet to bigger interests and having children or looking good wouldn't have saved her from that.

It doesn't matter who's at the top of this system. Schröder didn't do any better before her and he's pretty damn alpha.

In that fantasy world we're dreaming up right now (it's not gonna happen) our leader/ruler/monarch should still be elected. But voting rights need to be earned by citizens. Through knowledge on political topics, service to the community etc.

That way the Merkels of the world wouldn't stand a chance in elections.

After all leftists first and foremost suffer from a lack of information and education. If they were forced to study history, ancestry, economics, social dynamics/psychology (all with real data, not skewed/faked/madeup BS) their world view would shift within months.

Those who choose to remain ignorant can't vote. Simple.


Like I said, it's a fantasy anyway, so we shouldn't get too serious with this discussion. But to wish back a real monarchy with inherited kingdoms which now include nuclear, chemical and biological weapons, the power to crash the world economy or fuck up the entire agricultural landscape for centuries to come...

[Image: O9BPkYr89lK2A.gif]?
Wrec · 2015-12-23 06:50:00 · #5648
On the one side we see angry alpha russian generals that scare the shit out of almost everybody, and on the other side there is Germany and its Minister of Defence Ursula von der Leyen a former GYNECOLOGIST.
How is this lady going to lead one of the strongest armies in the world, especially in time of refugee crisis?
Quo vadis, Germany?
   
   
Going strong · 2015-12-23 06:51:00 · #5649
(12-23-2015 06:31 AM)LE50 Wrote:  
(12-23-2015 05:17 AM)Phoenix Wrote:  
(12-22-2015 12:46 PM)rw95 Wrote:  
(12-22-2015 11:23 AM)Phoenix Wrote:  Europe's existence literally depends on the return of kings.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Monarchy may very well be the only way to have a stable form of government, but WHO'S TO BE THE MONARCH?

The son of the last one. (To be specific, for Germany that would be: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georg_Frie...of_Prussia )

That's the whole idea. It's 'his' country, and thus he has a vested incentive not to fuck it up, and to protect it. So he will do so. He also has a vested incentive to do whatever the fuck he wants within that, which is why you counter-balance that with a co-equal noble and democratically-elected house.

The opposite of that is a temporary, mentally-diseased fuck-up like Merkel, who has no children, and who has no long-term incentives, and literally sees no problem with setting fire to the country for her own sick fetish reasons.

You're kidding, right?


The idea of a single ruler might be the way to go, but to choose the ruler basically at random is.... well, no. Just no.

Also you're implying that Merkel is the ruler right now and she somehow decides on what's going to happen. The fact that that's untrue is at the very core of our problems in this world. She's a puppet to bigger interests and having children or looking good wouldn't have saved her from that.

It doesn't matter who's at the top of this system. Schröder didn't do any better before her and he's pretty damn alpha.

In that fantasy world we're dreaming up right now (it's not gonna happen) our leader/ruler/monarch should still be elected. But voting rights need to be earned by citizens. Through knowledge on political topics, service to the community etc.

That way the Merkels of the world wouldn't stand a chance in elections.

After all leftists first and foremost suffer from a lack of information and education. If they were forced to study history, ancestry, economics, social dynamics/psychology (all with real data, not skewed/faked/madeup BS) their world view would shift within months.

Those who choose to remain ignorant can't vote. Simple.


Like I said, it's a fantasy anyway, so we shouldn't get too serious with this discussion. But to wish back a real monarchy with inherited kingdoms which now include nuclear, chemical and biological weapons, the power to crash the world economy or fuck up the entire agricultural landscape for centuries to come...

What, are you saying that an elected president (of any very big Western country) does not have "total control of nuclear, chemical and biological weapons, plus the power to crash the world economy or fuck up the entire agricultural landscape for centuries to come".

I mean, the French or American presidents currently both have exactly the (potential) powers of mayhem that you've described... Do you know that the French president for example has a box in his office with a nuclear push-switch in it, so he's got the potential power of nuclear war at any time of the day. Also, he has the potential power of, I dunno, shutting off the Suez canal (where our submarines lurk), and "crash the world economy" whenever he'd want (just has to say without warning, "I quit the eurozone and will pay my oil in gold").

So, your argument is rather void, given that several presidents of the world currently have the exact powers of a king. And as Phoenix said, kings have more incentives not to fuck things up, because they are linked by heart and blood to their beloved lands. Whereas most presidents are just in for 5 years of plundering...
H1N1 · 2015-12-23 06:52:00 · #5650
One of the best articles you will read all year. A subtle, thoughtful examination of terrorism, Islamic incompatibility, and the virtues of Western cultural and religious inheritance, by the inimitable Roger Scruton:

http://www.city-journal.org/2009/19_1_the-west.html
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