Not relevant to Migrant Invasion of Europe, but a video I found that is so perfect in all sense of how all European countries should be.
Homogenous society, ethnic proud people, people who actually have a lot in common (culturally, historically), national togetherness, Look at the passion of all those people singing their anthem.
Can you really imagine a crowd in Sweden/France/England/USA/Canada sing their national anthem with this much fire under their belly and passion ?
Quote:I will always feel an immense gratitude to this country, one shared by the millions of other refugees who have come to our shores in the years since—including Eastern European Jews, Hungarians, Vietnamese, Somalis, Cubans and Bosnian Muslims.
Let´s take a closer look:
EE Jews - Fleeing National Socialism
Hungarians - Fleeing Socialism
Vietnamese - Fleeing Socialism
Somalis - Fleeing Islamism
Cubans - Fleeing Socialism
Bosnian Muslims - Fleeing civil war along ethnic and religious lines
Apparently the logical conclusion is:
Let´s all embrace Socialism, open the doors for Islamists and create more minorities!
Brilliant! What could possibly go wrong?
Half of the groups from those lists became refugees because of American foreign policy.
(12-08-2015 01:37 PM)Silvestroyer Wrote: The invasive species will outbreed the local ones
When a woman has her legs closed and using her hands to cover her vagina is a way to express that dick is not getting inside that Gina, the two girls in the picture have a very close body language, they are sitting straight while the invader youth are lending toward the girls, in fact, the girl in pink is lending away from the invader, the invader on the right is hovering the hand, classic beta move, while the one in the left is holding the girl down like she is about to leave.
(12-09-2015 09:48 PM)AManLikePutin Wrote: Not relevant to Migrant Invasion of Europe, but a video I found that is so perfect in all sense of how all European countries should be.
Homogenous society, ethnic proud people, people who actually have a lot in common (culturally, historically), national togetherness, Look at the passion of all those people singing their anthem.
Can you really imagine a crowd in Sweden/France/England/USA/Canada sing their national anthem with this much fire under their belly and passion ?
Man - I'm so fucking jealous... if I was ten years younger I would start learning Russian. But being close to 50 I'd be at retirement age by the time I was fluent. You young bucks should hit the books - Russia is the future. The West is lost.
Frankly, nationalism and it's abstractions hurt me. But perhaps it is a necessary "evil" to combat cultural enrichment.
Or at least to keep the social glue intact to avoid such thing. I guess one must instruct the masses to act such way to avoid a worse sort of perversion.
(12-10-2015 11:14 AM)LEMONed IScream Wrote: Frankly, nationalism and it's abstractions hurt me. But perhaps it is a necessary "evil" to combat cultural enrichment.
Or at least to keep the social glue intact to avoid such thing. I guess one must instruct the masses to act such way to avoid a worse sort of perversion.
How exactly has nationalism hurt you? Nationalism is nothing but an extension of tribalism and it is the glue of a cohesive and homogenous society. Besides, a country which is unable to protect its borders has effectively abandoned its sovereignty. By suppressing nationalism we have bred Marxism and globalism. And it is quite clear at this point how both are hurting/destroying not only our respective nations but our Western cultures as well.
As the saying goes - you can't have your cake and eat it too.
Quote: But being close to 50 I'd be at retirement age by the time I was fluent.
Nonsense!
An hour a day (no more, but no less either!) and after two years you will be conversational. Full fledged fluency after 3 - 4 years.
That is no baseless motivational talk that I got from Duolingo.com or anything. It's simply true.
Don't underestimate what a motivated man can do and thanks to the internet you have access to EVERYTHING. Music, books, news, learning apps, skype partners. Hell for a time I even switched to foreign language porn sites to learn some more vocabulary that's not in the books. It's ridiculously easy these days if you really want it.
It looks intimidating at first, but after 6 months you will find it no "harder" than Spanish or French. It just needs a little more time because there is more information to process.
Being close to 50 is the worst excuse I have ever heard.
ESPECIALLY for Russian & Russia where age difference is of lesser importance these days (from what I hear).
Hope you don't take it personal, I don't mean to belittle or patronize.
(12-10-2015 11:14 AM)LEMONed IScream Wrote: Frankly, nationalism and it's abstractions hurt me. But perhaps it is a necessary "evil" to combat cultural enrichment.
Or at least to keep the social glue intact to avoid such thing. I guess one must instruct the masses to act such way to avoid a worse sort of perversion.
How exactly has nationalism hurt you? Nationalism is nothing but an extension of tribalism and it is the glue of a cohesive and homogenous society. Besides, a country which is unable to protect its borders has effectively abandoned its sovereignty. By suppressing nationalism we have bred Marxism and globalism. And it is quite clear at this point how both are hurting/destroying not only our respective nations but our Western cultures as well.
As the saying goes - you can't have your cake and eat it too.
Where does it start and where does it end? I wonder about this very often. I like my culture, my region and also participate at local traditions. I will tell my kids stories of old legends and so on. But this don't mean my culture is better then an other. Even that I dislike Islam as long we keep our values high and fight the influence I don't care what they do in their places.
But when do the culture vanish? Globalisation lead also to a lot more things that we take for granted today. Even more what if I go to Japan or an other country and start a family with a girl there? Then the kid carries two cultures inside. Some get along with that, others have deeper struggles. When we live in Germany, the kid will be more German, when in Japan then the kid more Japanese. Many here think about relocate from the west or get a foreign women. If she share the same values its one thing but she has also a different culture. My kids may will be not seen as full German even when I teach them more values and tradition then many of those "pure" Germans ever know.
Or when I move to an other country, live there over many years, what will be left of me? What's me and what is the influence of my culture that surround me daily? For me its more the values that has to pass one then a single behaviour. We are not the Amish or a similar group, we are out in the ocean and have face the storms that shake at our ship. Some of those winds will drive us in a better direction and others not.
Earlier in the thread, I posted a few articles from the Gates of Vienna that said the vast majority of the migrants arrived in Europe by the means of ferries, trains,, buses, and taxis. In total, I think they walked ten kilometers or so. Zelcorpion also posted a video on the migration route.
The articles I posted asked - who is paying for migrant's trip? I think Zel mentioned that is was the taxpayers.
With this in mind, I came across this article, which briefly mentioned the impact that the remittances from Europe have on the Africa.
Quote:Just like other young men in the Gambian village of Sabaa, Ebrima Touray dreams one day of getting married. First, though, he must prove himself as husband material - and these days, that involves a lot more than it did for his forefathers.
No longer is it enough to have good looks and own a decent patch of farmland. Today Mr Touray, 23, is expected risk his life on what is known as "The Back Way" - the perilous 3,000 mile journey across the Sahara and the Mediterranean in search of work in Europe.
“I want to be able to support a family, and to do that, I have to go to Europe," he said, tending the modest watermelon plot that is his only source of income. "Here in our community, if you do not go, you may not be able to even get a woman to marry.
I must go - all my friends, those I used to play football with, are gone already.” A glance at the village around him proves his point. Where was once a hamlet of thatched huts with spartan furnishings now boasts numerous homes with concrete walls, running water and tin roofs, some sporting satellite TV dishes.
Nearly all of it is paid for by remittances sent from locals now in Europe, with as many as 600 of Sabaa's 4,000 residents having tried "The Back Way", according to village elders.
I tried to find more information about remittance rates.
Here is a wikipedia article, which gives us a rough sketch on how much the remittance plays a part in the African economy.
Quote:Remittances to Africa play an important role to national economies. However, little data exists as many rely on informal channels to send money home. Immigrants from Africa today number approximately 20 to 30 million adults, who send around $40 billion USD annually to their families and local communities back home.For the region as a whole, this represents 50 percent more than net official development assistance (ODA) from all sources, and, for most countries, the amount also exceeds foreign direct investment (FDI). In several fragile states, remittances are estimated to exceed 50 percent of GDP.
Here is another older article, which I won't quote, about remittance flows.
So, essentially, the migrants in Europe who get welfare send some of their money back home, which is then used to fund new migrants to come to Europe.
In short, the welfare state by the means of Euro taxpayers is funding the migrants' to come to Europe. Unfortunately, the Euro taxpayer gets nothing in return, except for more crime and rape.
Even though I shouldn't be surprised, I still find it astonishing that nobody talks about the consequences of the welfare state or of its policies.
Quote: But being close to 50 I'd be at retirement age by the time I was fluent.
Nonsense!
An hour a day (no more, but no less either!) and after two years you will be conversational. Full fledged fluency after 3 - 4 years.
That is no baseless motivational talk that I got from Duolingo.com or anything. It's simply true.
Don't underestimate what a motivated man can do and thanks to the internet you have access to EVERYTHING. Music, books, news, learning apps, skype partners. Hell for a time I even switched to foreign language porn sites to learn some more vocabulary that's not in the books. It's ridiculously easy these days if you really want it.
It looks intimidating at first, but after 6 months you will find it no "harder" than Spanish or French. It just needs a little more time because there is more information to process.
Being close to 50 is the worst excuse I have ever heard.
ESPECIALLY for Russian & Russia where age difference is of lesser importance these days (from what I hear).
Hope you don't take it personal, I don't mean to belittle or patronize.
Just trying to motivate:
Fuck - now I gotta learn Russian...
You may have a point - genetically I'm pretty young still. People usually pen me at 38 or something as I kept myself in good shape. Alright, Russian it is - I'm on it!
(12-10-2015 12:16 PM)Parzival Wrote: Where does it start and where does it end? I wonder about this very often. I like my culture, my region and also participate at local traditions. I will tell my kids stories of old legends and so on. But this don't mean my culture is better then an other. Even that I dislike Islam as long we keep our values high and fight the influence I don't care what they do in their places.
I have to intercede here, mein Freund. Yes, German culture IS BETTER than many others, especially Middle Eastern Islamist culture. Just look at your country and look at theirs. Germans pride themselves for being punctual, accurate, logical, productive, highly intelligent, excessively fair, generous, not corrupt, and tolerant. The food is a lot better than neighboring Europeans would want to admit, the women are beautiful, cities used to be gorgeous before they got bombed to smithereens in WW2. Es ist das Land der Dichter und Denker.
What does Iraq, Afghanistan, or Syria have to offer to the world? Especially these days? Daily headlines reporting on terrorist attacks and human atrocities. The whole fucking region is a mess and you were lucky for having been privileged to be born in post WW2 Germany.
I know it is very tough to reprogram decades of leftist propaganda. But we are NOT all made equal, Parzival - some of us are better, more beautiful, more talented, more ambitious. It is important for us in the Red Pill community that we kill any and all seeds of the Jante Law. It lies at the VERY CORE of what we are doing here. It needs to be destroyed and nationalism as well as realism must take its place.
I agree, we are not all equal. The difference is natural, we need the darkness to see the light. To aim at higher goals and not live in self hate and blaming others like the Islamic world is doing it.
I just mean I don't care what those people do in their countries, I consider a lot of this shit to be honest. Still I don't try to teach them. On the other side I welcome everyone that goes to Europe because he or she want to participate at the values we have there.
If you wont to live in the stone age, stay at your place and don't come to Europe!
I remember speaking to one of my old friends, who was actually completely happy and fine with the idea. That Western nations would no longer have any nationality, shared culture, even if this resulted in them being complete cesspits and dangerous places to live in. This was 'progress' in his eyes.
(12-10-2015 02:35 PM)Parzival Wrote: I agree, we are not all equal. The difference is natural, we need the darkness to see the light. To aim at higher goals and not live in self hate and blaming others like the Islamic world is doing it.
I just mean I don't care what those people do in their countries, I consider a lot of this shit to be honest. Still I don't try to teach them. On the other side I welcome everyone that goes to Europe because he or she want to participate at the values we have there.
If you wont to live in the stone age, stay at your place and don't come to Europe!
(12-10-2015 12:16 PM)Parzival Wrote: Where does it start and where does it end? I wonder about this very often. I like my culture, my region and also participate at local traditions. I will tell my kids stories of old legends and so on. But this don't mean my culture is better then an other. Even that I dislike Islam as long we keep our values high and fight the influence I don't care what they do in their places.
I have to intercede here, mein Freund. Yes, German culture IS BETTER than many others, especially Middle Eastern Islamist culture. Just look at your country and look at theirs. Germans pride themselves for being punctual, accurate, logical, productive, highly intelligent, excessively fair, generous, not corrupt, and tolerant. The food is a lot better than neighboring Europeans would want to admit, the women are beautiful, cities used to be gorgeous before they got bombed to smithereens in WW2. Es ist das Land der Dichter und Denker.
What does Iraq, Afghanistan, or Syria have to offer to the world? Especially these days? Daily headlines reporting on terrorist attacks and human atrocities. The whole fucking region is a mess and you were lucky for having been privileged to be born in post WW2 Germany.
I know it is very tough to reprogram decades of leftist propaganda. But we are NOT all made equal, Parzival - some of us are better, more beautiful, more talented, more ambitious. It is important for us in the Red Pill community that we kill any and all seeds of the Jante Law. It lies at the VERY CORE of what we are doing here. It needs to be destroyed and nationalism as well as realism must take its place.
Bravo. Bist du Deutscher? Ich hab ein paar jahre in Goettingen gelebt.
I'm a very nationalistic Ethiopian and have little trust who do not love their country.
But a country's condition is rarely the result of circumstance and outside forces and has everything to do with the quality of its culture and people.
You could cut out a small portion of the Somalian desert and import 1 million Japanese people. Within 25 years, you'll have a fucking first world country. Evacuate everyone from Switzerland and settle the same number of people with Ethiopians. Within 10 years i guarantee the country would be broke and asking for food aid.
Same goes for beauty like you mentioned. This Ethiopian girl I'm currently fucking has a Peruvian roommate who she claimed was a "catch" and wanted me to hook her up with one of my friends.When she showed me a picture i almost burst out in laughter. Fat little indio who looked like a goblin. When i made remarks about her appearance she gets furious & barks " I can't believe you said that.Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. Some people like her look."
No they don't. Not counting fetishists, every man on the planet would choose an average Persian girl over an Australian aboriginal or Peruvian Indio.
Following common courtesy and not saying these things not to offend a friend is understandable. But when the brainwashing is so profound that we can't even acknowledge these truths we got a problem.
(12-10-2015 12:16 PM)Parzival Wrote: Where does it start and where does it end? I wonder about this very often. I like my culture, my region and also participate at local traditions. I will tell my kids stories of old legends and so on. But this don't mean my culture is better then an other. Even that I dislike Islam as long we keep our values high and fight the influence I don't care what they do in their places.
I have to intercede here, mein Freund. Yes, German culture IS BETTER than many others, especially Middle Eastern Islamist culture. Just look at your country and look at theirs. Germans pride themselves for being punctual, accurate, logical, productive, highly intelligent, excessively fair, generous, not corrupt, and tolerant. The food is a lot better than neighboring Europeans would want to admit, the women are beautiful, cities used to be gorgeous before they got bombed to smithereens in WW2. Es ist das Land der Dichter und Denker.
What does Iraq, Afghanistan, or Syria have to offer to the world? Especially these days? Daily headlines reporting on terrorist attacks and human atrocities. The whole fucking region is a mess and you were lucky for having been privileged to be born in post WW2 Germany.
I know it is very tough to reprogram decades of leftist propaganda. But we are NOT all made equal, Parzival - some of us are better, more beautiful, more talented, more ambitious. It is important for us in the Red Pill community that we kill any and all seeds of the Jante Law. It lies at the VERY CORE of what we are doing here. It needs to be destroyed and nationalism as well as realism must take its place.
(12-10-2015 03:41 PM)Anabasis to Desta Wrote: Bravo. Bist du Deutscher? Ich hab ein paar jahre in Goettingen gelebt.
Nein, ich bin kein Deutscher.
(12-10-2015 03:41 PM)Anabasis to Desta Wrote: I'm a very nationalistic Ethiopian and have little trust for people who have no love for their country.
But a country's condition is rarely the result of circumstance and outside forces and has everything to do with the quality of its culture and people.
You could cut out a small portion of the Somalian desert and import 1 million Japanese people. Within 25 years, you'll have a fucking first world country. Evacuate everyone from Switzerland and settle the same number of people with Ethiopians. Within 10 years i guarantee the country would be broke and asking for food aid.
THIS^^^ Every fucking six year old would understand this without explanation. But our European 'leaders' continue to assure us that Islam belongs to Germany/Holland/France/etc. notwithstanding a mountain of historical evidence to the contrary.
(12-10-2015 03:41 PM)Anabasis to Desta Wrote: Same goes for beauty like you mentioned. This Ethiopian girl I'm currently fucking has a Peruvian roommate who she claimed was a "catch" and wanted me to hook her up with one of my friends.When she showed me a picture i almost burst out in laughter. Fat little indio who looked like a goblin. When i made remarks about her appearance she gets furious barks " I can't believe you said that.Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. Some people like her look."
No they don't. Not counting fetishists, every man on the planet would choose an average Persian girl over an Australian aboriginal or Peruvian Indio.
If she was beautiful she wouldn't be available - that simple. Beautiful women never need to be 'hooked up' - they are rarely or only briefly available. My wife used to be a top model when she was young - she broke up with another guy to be with me. Since she was a young teen she has never been alone for more than a week or two - her c-count is low fortunately as she was in long term relationships. Or so she tells me LOL ;-)
(12-10-2015 03:41 PM)Anabasis to Desta Wrote: Following common courtesy and not saying these things not to offend a friend is understandable. But when the brainwashing is so profound that we can't even acknowledge these truths we got a problem.
Everything in good measure. Unfortunately our popular culture breeds fragile egos who are out of touch with reality.
Actually my bad. I didn't realize I had written hurt. That was a complete mistake.
I just wanted to say I had a relative aversion to it, since we're talking mostly about irrational abstractions, which have a certain usefulness if one is facing a peril such as the Islamic one. I'm not "hurt" by it. I was probably thinking about hurt and wrote that instead.
In short, I can understand the practical usefulness, however, one cannot forget the atrocities made in the name of nationalism, and we cannot white-wash that.
I prefer the simpler term of patriotism, of liking your identity and your culture, protecting it against other threats. But without an overbearing jingoistic and belitling manner towards other cultures.
Sure, Western culture IS in general better than the average african of middle eastern country, but quite frankly that sort of thing is so self evident (despite the re-programming towards "we are all One") that it doesn't even need to be very mentioned. What the West should focus on is not exactly national identity but a more encompassing and general set of values that it defends, stick to it, cease trying to convert others to it, all while protecting it's own creed.
But that of course would be in a world that made sense.
(12-10-2015 11:29 AM)redpillage Wrote:
(12-10-2015 11:14 AM)LEMONed IScream Wrote: Frankly, nationalism and it's abstractions hurt me. But perhaps it is a necessary "evil" to combat cultural enrichment.
Or at least to keep the social glue intact to avoid such thing. I guess one must instruct the masses to act such way to avoid a worse sort of perversion.
How exactly has nationalism hurt you? Nationalism is nothing but an extension of tribalism and it is the glue of a cohesive and homogenous society. Besides, a country which is unable to protect its borders has effectively abandoned its sovereignty. By suppressing nationalism we have bred Marxism and globalism. And it is quite clear at this point how both are hurting/destroying not only our respective nations but our Western cultures as well.
As the saying goes - you can't have your cake and eat it too.
Those figures have been around for a while. Interesting though; world media in action:
Quote:More than one million refugees and migrants have entered Germany (...)
Quote:(...) told reporters on Wednesday, 9 December, that government computer systems have now registered more than one million refugees (...)
"Having entered" and "having registered" are not the same thing by a long shot, and it's crucially important to acknowledge this when discussing the "crisis".
With the next paragraphs they are suggesting that the leaked 1.5 million estimation is "disputed". Ridiculous. If >more than< 1 million are registered and we have accounts of hundreds of thousands missing, not yet registered, illegally entering and still to come (3 weeks is three weeks), we are CERTAINLY closer to 1.5 than to 1.
And we all know these shortcomings of modern journalism are NOT rooted in stupidity, but in fact in malice, so Hanlon's razor please go back to the 18th century where you belong.
But hey, 500.000 people. What's the big deal. 10% of them will even get jobs. The other 450.000 we will just give 1.000EUR a month. That's just 10.000EUR a year. For 450.000 that's just ... wait, hold on.. that's the full GDP of a small African country. Not to mention the cost for bureaucracy, police and integration.
Hm,... better not report on that. People might not like it. We wouldn't want that, would we?
In regards to Germany admitting 1 million soulmates have come.
At first it was 300k, then 500k, then 800k by Christmas 2915. Now before we have even heard churche bells ringing for Christmas Day there are 1 million of them. And these are the numbers they admit.
Since redpillage explained the importance of nationalism and AManLikePutin showed us a nice example of it in Russia, here's the German perspective on the matter:
I don't know how much longer I can handle this. It's supposed to be a Christmas market with Christmas songs and this retarded piece of shit takes traditional German Christmas songs and tries to turn them into Kebab-music.
I'm so fucking done with those dumb shitheads in this cucked country.
This is actually "triggering" to say the least. This is cultural imperialism supported by state-TV and that crowd full of cucks. Just look at those fuckers wasting oxygen, clapping and smiling like the world is a love-bubble. There are some folks in the crowd who seem to feel weird about it but look how instead of leaving the fat bitch singing alone, they try to force a smile on their face because they think it's the right thing to do. Only the guy at 1:02min is openly disgusted by it but let's quickly cut that camera off before someone sees him.
Please let Trump make Amerika great again so I can leave Germanistan for a nice place in the USA where I can at least arm myself to make people leave me alone on my own property.
I mean just look at this shit. WHAT IS THIS??? They force every household to pay 17,50€ per month to finance all this shit:
(The music was added)
Slowly but surely I'm imploding here. It's just downright abasing.