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N掳6 路 2015-12-06 02:14:00 路 #5351
(12-05-2015 10:28 AM)Libertas Wrote:  
(12-05-2015 03:24 AM)Lizard King Wrote:  
(12-04-2015 11:52 PM)Eskhander Wrote:  Needs Orban.
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Needs Farage too.

Any artists here?

Part of what I talked about is subversion. Images are important. That picture could be more complete if it showed them all as a fleet on horse ready to charge the enemy.

Trump.
Le Pen.
Wilders.
Orban.
Farage.
Strache.
Akesson.
Dahl.
Putin.

And many others I might have missed. Smile

(12-05-2015 09:19 AM)N掳6 Wrote:  I wish White men weren't so much into abstract reason and purity. Taking this world as its global form and France within it like a city without walls, you have probably 95% in common with the very worst of the FN.

Yeah. This is another reason why the left has always been so victorious. They realize the long game and attrition and they will vote for anyone that can advance their forces down the field. This has led to an unstable coalition that we should watch for, but all the same, it's a reason why opponents of the left - who for too long have been worried about this or that, have folded.

Taxes?
Feminist lawyer?

While the far left economic policy isn't a good thing, none of these things matter an iota when your very freedom and survival are at stake.

The choice is clear - surrender your freedom and identity to globalization or vote for people and parties that oppose them, no matter what the rough edges. Which price would you rather pay?

Agreed - although I think that abstract theory is a weakness of the Old and New Left too which is still very much led by the 'intellectual'. The greatest advantage that it has over other philosophies is that it has a compliant mass media system and education system. This is why the Left is obsessed with 'debate'. It has to do something with all the hours spent at anarchist book shops, the humanities faculty and not everyone can sell books and become a designer-feminist or a celebrity champagne socialist.

As for economics, most continental European nationalist economics would be considered 'Left' because of the belief that a nation's economy needs to be protected like its culture and territory. As much of this comes from traditional Roman Catholic economic teaching (anti-usury, anti-debt, fair profit, just price etc) we can say that this Left economic theory is actually fiscally conservative.

The traditional difference between Anglo economic theories is between the Whigs and the Tories with the US going the Whig direction and the UK going to the Tory direction until Whiggism returned to the UK to be adopted by all political parties across the sham Left-Right spectrum.
N掳6 路 2015-12-06 02:33:00 路 #5352
(12-05-2015 11:57 AM)Requiem Wrote:  
(12-05-2015 10:28 AM)Libertas Wrote:  Trump.
Le Pen.
Wilders.
Orban.
Farage.
Strache.
Akesson.
Dahl.
Putin.

And many others I might have missed. Smile

Bj枚rn H枚cke! He's gonna make our country great again! Remember his name, he'll be important (I hope). Here, you can see him explaining to German public figures what our national flag looks like and what it represents:
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Don't the colours represent the 1848-1850 Communist Frankfurt Republic and the ill-fated Weimar Republic?

I always found it interesting that the Americanised West Germany and the Communist East Germany flew the same flag. Perhaps the German flag represents the dialectical materialist theory of thesis, anti-thesis and synthesis. Certainly after re-unification, Germany has administered the synthesis of international capital and international socialism across Europe.
Dan Woolf 路 2015-12-06 06:07:00 路 #5353
Quote:ISIS army of scientists set to wage chemical and biological war on West: Experts warn weapons of mass destruction 'have been carried undetected' into European Union

ISIS already has smuggled chemical and biological weapons into the EU
The terror organisation has also recruited chemists and physicists
Western governments warned to alert the public about potential attacks


ISIS has recruited experts with chemistry, physics and computer science degrees to wage war with weapons of mass destruction against the West, a shocking European Parliament report has claimed.

The terror organisation, according to the briefing document, 'may be planning to try to use internationally banned weapons of mass destruction in future attacks'.

The document, which was compiled in the aftermath of the deadly attacks on Paris claimed that ISIS has already smuggled WMD material into Europe.

Experts fear that ISIS will be able to exploit a failure of EU governments to share information on possible terrorists.

Already, British police forces have been conducting exercises on how to deal with various types of terrorist attack. But the EU report claims that government should 'consider publicly addressing the possibility of terrorist attack using chemical, biological, radiological or even nuclear materials'.

The report, ISIL/Da'esh and 'non-conventional' weapons of terror warns: 'At present, European citizens are not seriously contemplating the possibility that extremist groups might use chemical, biological, radiological or nuclear (CBRN) materials during attacks in Europe. Under these circumstances, the impact of such an attack, should it occur, would be even more destabilising.'

Rob Wainwright, head of Europol said after the attacks on Paris: 'We are dealing with a very serious, well-resourced, determined international terrorist organisation that is now active on the streets of Europe.

'This represents the most serious terrorist threat faced in Europe for 10 years.'

Mr Wainwright warned that ISIS had serious capabilities in terms of resources and manpower.'

Nomi Bar-Yaacov, Associate Fellow in Chatham House's International Security Department said: 'There is a very real risk of ISIS using unconventional weapons in Europe and beyond.'

Wolfgang Rudischhauser, Director of the Weapons of Mass Destruction Non-Proliferation Centre at NATO said: 'ISIS actually has already acquired the knowledge, and in some cases the human expertise, that would allow it to use CBRN materials as weapons of terror.'

The report claims 'ISIL/Da'esh has recruited and continues to recruit hundreds of foreign fighters, including some with degrees in physics, chemistry and computer science, who experts believe have the ability to manufacture lethal weapons from raw substances.'

EU governments have been warned to watch out for 'other radicalised individuals, who have access to, or work in, sensitive areas'.

Intelligence services have also been warned to screen returning Jihadi fighters for 'specialist CBRN knowledge'.

The shocking study claims that 150 cases of nuclear or radiological trafficking are reported annually.

Worse still: 'CBRN substances have been carried undetected into the European Union.

'Interpol's monthly CBRN intelligence reports show numerous examples of attempts to acquire, smuggle or use CBRN materials.'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...z3tXA8LRMW

Clap
Zelcorpion 路 2015-12-06 07:26:00 路 #5354
(12-06-2015 06:07 AM)Dan Woolf Wrote:  
Quote:ISIS army of scientists set to wage chemical and biological war on West: Experts warn weapons of mass destruction 'have been carried undetected' into European Union

ISIS already has smuggled chemical and biological weapons into the EU
The terror organisation has also recruited chemists and physicists
Western governments warned to alert the public about potential attacks


ISIS has recruited experts with chemistry, physics and computer science degrees to wage war with weapons of mass destruction against the West, a shocking European Parliament report has claimed.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...z3tXA8LRMW

Those WMD are how WW3 might possibly start.

Meanwhile individual fighters can continue enriching Europe:





Quote:Eyewitnesses claimed they could hear 'this is for Syria' and 'all of your blood will be spilled' during the terrifying attack.
One bystander called out: 'Drop it, you fool' as the man was held down by police. There were also claims that bottles were hurled at the arrested man as he was led away by police.

One social media user wrote: 'You ain't no Muslim, bruv'. I will stand by THAT Muslim anytime.'


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...z3tXeUbrkl
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So essentially someone on Twitter or even there on the subway screamed that the guy was no Muslim because he stabbed folk in the name of religion.
https://twitter.com/search?q=%23YouAintN...v&src=tyah

Nonsense - that guy was the perfect Muslim similar to those 2 ISIS gentlemen who called for lone wolf stabbing attacks in Europe: http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/islamic-state-i...ia-1514239 Anyone can do something for the global Jihad. He wore a mask so he thought that he could stab a few, run off and then do it again some other time. Too bad that the London tube is a bad choice for that with massive surveillance and police nearby.

Violent jihad continues until a caliphate rules over a country and non-Muslims can live under "benevolent" sharia law and pay a jizya tax (actually they already do since many see EU social security as simple jizya and have thus no qualm at accepting that).

Times are certainly getting tougher. Self defense with common day-to-day objects is now standard program for the European enriched citizen.

Quote:"Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you." ~Jesus
"Fight those who do not believe in Allah." ~Muhammad

But I agree with David Wood here who clearly states that certainly not all Muslims support that - it's just the ideology which is at fault:

Quote:If you're angry about jihad, take out your anger on the ideology that drives it, not on the Westernized Muslims who don't support it.

Ah - I would add the globalist elite who is consciously supporting extremist ideology and killing innocents in the Middle East.
Bushido 路 2015-12-06 07:32:00 路 #5355
An WMD report suddenly emerges prior to an unpopular war in the Middle East?

Hmm. Seems vaguely familiar...
Zelcorpion 路 2015-12-06 07:34:00 路 #5356
(12-06-2015 07:32 AM)dreambig Wrote:  An WMD report suddenly emerges prior to an unpopular war in the Middle East?

Hmm. Seems vaguely familiar...

The difference is that those WMDs would have to be triggered in the West for real. You won't see carpet bombing of Paris or Berlin, just because they suspect some Jihadis to have some WMDs there.

Those WMDs go off and then the fun can start for real.
LEMONed IScream 路 2015-12-06 10:34:00 路 #5357




As usual, Syrian Girl speaking some sense.

I would welcome tons of Syrian refugees in my home if only they looked like Mimi Big Grin
Traktor 路 2015-12-06 12:26:00 路 #5358
Drink alcohol, fuck and eat some pork to this..



redpillage 路 2015-12-06 13:50:00 路 #5359
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=30b_1449245039 (link because I don't know how to embed liveleak videos here)

Posted without commentary as I'm literally lost for words...
Wrec 路 2015-12-06 13:52:00 路 #5360
Schweiz has some senses

"Switzerland says it will risk the legal collapse of its trade, security and free travel agreements with the EU, if Brussels cannot stop uncontrolled migration into the country."

   

https://www.rt.com/news/324783-switzerla...quota-law/
redpillage 路 2015-12-06 13:56:00 路 #5361
(12-06-2015 10:34 AM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  



As usual, Syrian Girl speaking some sense.

I would welcome tons of Syrian refugees in my home if only they looked like Mimi Big Grin

Syrian girl is HOT HOT HOT! I wouldn't mind taking in half a million of those per year!

Anyway, what did she say? I was distracted looking at her mouth move the entire time.

Yes, yes, I'm a sick man - I'm taking pills...
LEMONed IScream 路 2015-12-06 13:57:00 路 #5362
Nobody screws with the Swiss. I love those fuckers. Even though they do have some excessive and eccentric regulation. But at least they don't take shit.
redpillage 路 2015-12-06 14:09:00 路 #5363
Election Results are coming in and it seems FN is kicking ass - they are talking about historical results.

Vive la France!!!
Zelcorpion 路 2015-12-06 15:26:00 路 #5364
(12-06-2015 01:57 PM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  Nobody screws with the Swiss. I love those fuckers. Even though they do have some excessive and eccentric regulation. But at least they don't take shit.

Ah - not so much. Their borders are essentially open like Germany - only trucks and commercial vehicles are being checked.

The country is just so incredibly expensive that migrants cannot even afford waiting for asylum there. Also it's not granted to newcomers easily - in some districts - Kantons - it's almost impossible. But you see more Africans and Middle Easterners as they can pull home wives, family etc. I saw plenty of Niqab or almost Niqab clad women - also to be fair a good number of secular Middle Easterners.

They have rising crime in recent years and ghettos being formed, but not anywhere near the problems as in Sweden:

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4,9% Muslim part in Switzerland similar to Sweden.

The only difference I see in Switzerland is that entry to the country is more orderly, more migrants are working and are indeed more integrated. In addition the biggest Muslim group in Switzerland are coming from the Balkan countries.

There is more crime there as well, but the number of Muslims is just 400.000 and not rising overly strong. The reason is based on the fact that Switzerland attracts many highly qualified workers from all around Europe - if you look at the current migration data you find the largest groups to be Germans and French:

http://www.bfs.admin.ch/bfs/portal/de/in...02/01.html

Many white Eastern Europeans moved there in the last few years as well.

I saw quite a few Persian cuties who generally behave like "Rich Kids of Teheran" as soon as they hit some success. Other nationalities are often found to be staffing positions at the local supermarket, burger joint etc. In Switzerland those jobs offer you a reasonable lifestyle if your partner works too - you are not really scraping the bottom of the barrel there.

But I think part of the reason why Switzerland is so restrictive towards migration is the massive resistence the people put up as governments have tried to push the Swiss into Europe (rejected), open all labor market borders to Eastern Europe and Western Europe (also rejected at multiple direct elections). So their elite have been pushing globalism in Switzerland as well, but the segregated direct democracy you find there is just a pain in the butt for any globalist. If Western countries and the US had Switzerland's democratic model, then all countries would be both economically as well as socially more successful as the elite would have to fight tooth and nail for the smallest changes.

Still - the situation there is deteriorating as well, so the elite does get them in the end, but you certainly won't see Swedish craziness there.
Dalaran1991 路 2015-12-06 15:44:00 路 #5365
(12-06-2015 02:09 PM)redpillage Wrote:  Election Results are coming in and it seems FN is kicking ass - they are talking about historical results.

Vive la France!!!

Quote: Le Front national enregistre une victoire historique lors de ce premier tour. Les r茅sultats des 茅lections r茅gionales offrent au parti de HMarine Le Pen pr猫s de 30 % des suffrages au niveau national devant les listes LR-UDI 脿 27 % selon les dernier rapports de force nationaux bas茅s sur des r茅sultats encore partiels. Les listes de gauche d茅passent 脿 peine les 22 % selon ces r茅sultats. Le Front national est en t锚te dans 6 脿 7 r茅gions. Seules deux r茅gions restent PS ce soir, Aquitaine, Limousin, Poitou-Charente et Bretagne.

The party of Marine Le Pen is at 30% nation-wide, while the leftists cucks are at 22%

FN leading in 6 out of 7 regions.

EDITED: FN did not lead in Ile de France, but UMP, a central right party. Still good news seeing how this is the stronghold of the left and where all the media propaganda comes from. If the FN plays it right they dont need to win Paris for a final vicotry.

Still, I really wish by 2017 it would be Marion Mar茅chal and not Marine leading the party. The young Marion has a clearer vision and better priority than her aunt. Her recent rise to prominent contributed much to the party's popularity among the youth>
tom 路 2015-12-06 20:28:00 路 #5366
(12-06-2015 03:44 PM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  
(12-06-2015 02:09 PM)redpillage Wrote:  Election Results are coming in and it seems FN is kicking ass - they are talking about historical results.

Vive la France!!!



The party of Marine Le Pen is at 30% nation-wide, while the leftists cucks are at 22%

FN leading in 6 out of 7 regions.

Quote: Front national est en t锚te dans 6 脿 7 r茅gions

I think that means "front national is in the lead in 6 to 7" regions
Wutang 路 2015-12-06 23:49:00 路 #5367
(12-06-2015 12:26 PM)Traktor Wrote:  Drink alcohol, fuck and eat some pork to this..




I prefer this one



Eskhander 路 2015-12-06 23:51:00 路 #5368
Front National is also the most popular party for the 18-24s
Zelcorpion 路 2015-12-07 03:33:00 路 #5369
Saw recently those 2 videos - in German, but can be seen with translation:





This is about the city of Bremen and the massive rise in petty crime perpetrated by the so-called unaccompanied "youth". They steal, rob, sometimes violently, they have started using a strange happy-dance-approach towards women mostly only for a companion to rob them.

The police catches them alright, but have to release them since they are undocumented (even age is unsure, but I guess anyone below 35 claims to be "youth") - and the very same next day they are in the same area planning mischief, since they have no further income.

Fast forward to around 04:50 and 2 German girls will say that they like to frequent the area all despite the dangers. One of the girls says that she is trusting everyone, so is an easy target. Her friend claims that girls should not visit this area of Bremen alone anyway. Great to see the women comment on the deterioration of their country on such easy terms. It certainly was not the case a decade ago.





In this video you see one independent station covering the oh-so dangerous treck for migrants. Turns out that the most dangerous part is the rubber boat voyage from Turkey. After that it's easy - the walking is severely limited. Along the way ferries, fully-climatized modern buses and trains pick them up. The cost of those trips is often 10-20EUR or for free when it's the train. In addition there are plenty of cabs who pick up the more affluent ones and drive them all the way to their end destinations for hundreds or thousands of Euros.

The reporter who speaks some Arabic said clearly that the trip from Greece to Germany or Sweden is very easy and very cheap at that. Any legal European would have to pay 5-10 times as much to reach the destination. In many cases those trips resemble holiday expeditions with some minor walking involved.

And guess who is paying the difference in cost there? The EU taxpayer is picking up the bill.
bk19xsa 路 2015-12-07 09:19:00 路 #5370
Would the solution that the West leaves the Middle East region and blocks it be a viable one?

Blocking here not only means barring Middle Eastern people to enter Europe or America but also means taking away Western interests from the region. There are lot of western influences and business interests in most middle east countries , especially prominent in the Oil rich Gulf countries such as Saudi Arabia .Hence these countries are called 'allies'.

How much would it affect the west if all visas for such Middle East countries are stopped and all businesses and trades are stopped , letting the countries of the region fight their own wars and territorial or sectarian clashes ?

The general populace of the Middle East is of the anti-west sentiment anyways. So Let them have their wish. Let them try to Live and prosper or fight within themselves to kingdom come all without Western influence and see how far they go.
And anytime the war mongers among them get out of hand and cross the seas, they get bombed to oblivion.
Basically the whole idea is to not let them have anything whatsoever to do with the west until they are stable and civilized enough to interact with the west.

There are some factors which will majorly hinder this move :

1. Russia : their economy is not good .Putin likes asserting control and expansion. A middle east without American influence is an amazing deal as cheap oil will be there for the taking.

But lets say Russia tries to control the region but later realizes that wasting all these resources ,military equipment, defense budget etc is not helping as the region is unable to stabilize . And cheap oil is coming at a cost which is bringing Russia鈥檚 economy further down rather than strengthening it. So Russia too leaves ME and concentrates more on Europe and its immediate neighbors such as Ukraine.

2. Israel : a major hindering factor . Has top notch influence on the west. Has a lot of its people/supporters in important positions in the west. Therefore a middle east without western influence will make Israel look like a baby left alone in a national wildlife park. All the ME countries will look at this opportunity with glee and try to bring Israel down.

But Israel is not a baby anymore . Has not been since the early sixties. Its more now a grown up Mowgli in the jungle that is Middle east.It has all the tools it can defend itself with. It even has nukes. It should try and survive. And If Israel cannot make it on its own now then that will just reveal the fact that Israel manipulated the west especially USA to do its bidding and that a lot of tax payers dollars were wasted on Israel for 50-60 years. So lets say Israel decides to be on its own.

3. Saudi Arabia : The Biggest hindering factor. And its all because of Oil. The Saudi govt loves Americans and American govt loves Saudi. There has been since the 1930's a great relationship between the two . Saudi Arabia is built on American money. It has many things American . Replace the Saudis in Riyadh with Americans and they will feel they just moved to Houston 2.0 .That is how much of an American influence has been on Saudi.

The USA requires Saudi Monarchy not only for providing USA 10 percent of its imported oil at very cheap rates but also for maintaining control over the Middle East and its oil fields. That is why even though most of Osama鈥檚 Al Qaeda was Saudi and 19 of the 9/11 terrorists were Saudis , the USA didn't criticize or attack Saudi Arabia.USA still maintains this policy.

However, recently USA got Shale Oil going and no matter what Saudi influenced OPEC tries ,it鈥檚 a lost cause for Saudi and its only option is high production at the cost of domestic supply so as to try maintaining the oil market in its favor.

Therefore the USA can afford to stop businesses from Saudi and let it be on its own. The Saudi Monarchs will try their best to not allow this because of their own security and ruling concerns . They know that their own public will happily go wild at the prospect of no US influence finally on their country. Iran will be jumping up and down in delirium .
So the Saudi Monarchs, desperate to maintain a stranglehold ,will look towards the East. And out will come China. Already having lots of recent contracts in Saudi Arabia, China will look at this as the perfect opportunity to gain political power outside of East Asia and Indian Subcontinent. The Chinese will get the bulk of Saudi Oil with the promise that they will help maintain Saudi鈥檚 economy , keep the infrastructure running and ensure the Monarchs control over the Saudi Public.

The West ,especially USA , would not want China to ever have this benefit .

So the question comes again. Would it be a viable solution for the west to leave Middle East and block it.

Politically and Economically it can be done. But Power doesn鈥檛 work that way. Nietzsche would say the Middle East is a means to an end .
The West and Western people need and want to be in Middle East even if the Middle East says get the hell out .

And that is why its Plain Hypocrisy.

If the west really wants to protect its way of life and ensure safety for its own then the Western governments and the Western people need to grow real balls and say to hell with the middle east .Even with all the reasons mentioned above.
But unfortunately greed begets more greed and so does power.
The Beast1 路 2015-12-07 10:42:00 路 #5371
(12-07-2015 09:19 AM)bk19xsa Wrote:  Would the solution that the West leaves the Middle East region and blocks it be a viable one?

Blocking here not only means barring Middle Eastern people to enter Europe or America but also means taking away Western interests from the region. There are lot of western influences and business interests in most middle east countries , especially prominent in the Oil rich Gulf countries such as Saudi Arabia .Hence these countries are called 'allies'.

How much would it affect the west if all visas for such Middle East countries are stopped and all businesses and trades are stopped , letting the countries of the region fight their own wars and territorial or sectarian clashes ?

The general populace of the Middle East is of the anti-west sentiment anyways. So Let them have their wish. Let them try to Live and prosper or fight within themselves to kingdom come all without Western influence and see how far they go.
And anytime the war mongers among them get out of hand and cross the seas, they get bombed to oblivion.
Basically the whole idea is to not let them have anything whatsoever to do with the west until they are stable and civilized enough to interact with the west.

There are some factors which will majorly hinder this move :

1. Russia : their economy is not good .Putin likes asserting control and expansion. A middle east without American influence is an amazing deal as cheap oil will be there for the taking.

But lets say Russia tries to control the region but later realizes that wasting all these resources ,military equipment, defense budget etc is not helping as the region is unable to stabilize . And cheap oil is coming at a cost which is bringing Russia鈥檚 economy further down rather than strengthening it. So Russia too leaves ME and concentrates more on Europe and its immediate neighbors such as Ukraine.

2. Israel : a major hindering factor . Has top notch influence on the west. Has a lot of its people/supporters in important positions in the west. Therefore a middle east without western influence will make Israel look like a baby left alone in a national wildlife park. All the ME countries will look at this opportunity with glee and try to bring Israel down.

But Israel is not a baby anymore . Has not been since the early sixties. Its more now a grown up Mowgli in the jungle that is Middle east.It has all the tools it can defend itself with. It even has nukes. It should try and survive. And If Israel cannot make it on its own now then that will just reveal the fact that Israel manipulated the west especially USA to do its bidding and that a lot of tax payers dollars were wasted on Israel for 50-60 years. So lets say Israel decides to be on its own.

3. Saudi Arabia : The Biggest hindering factor. And its all because of Oil. The Saudi govt loves Americans and American govt loves Saudi. There has been since the 1930's a great relationship between the two . Saudi Arabia is built on American money. It has many things American . Replace the Saudis in Riyadh with Americans and they will feel they just moved to Houston 2.0 .That is how much of an American influence has been on Saudi.

The USA requires Saudi Monarchy not only for providing USA 10 percent of its imported oil at very cheap rates but also for maintaining control over the Middle East and its oil fields. That is why even though most of Osama鈥檚 Al Qaeda was Saudi and 19 of the 9/11 terrorists were Saudis , the USA didn't criticize or attack Saudi Arabia.USA still maintains this policy.

However, recently USA got Shale Oil going and no matter what Saudi influenced OPEC tries ,it鈥檚 a lost cause for Saudi and its only option is high production at the cost of domestic supply so as to try maintaining the oil market in its favor.

Therefore the USA can afford to stop businesses from Saudi and let it be on its own. The Saudi Monarchs will try their best to not allow this because of their own security and ruling concerns . They know that their own public will happily go wild at the prospect of no US influence finally on their country. Iran will be jumping up and down in delirium .
So the Saudi Monarchs, desperate to maintain a stranglehold ,will look towards the East. And out will come China. Already having lots of recent contracts in Saudi Arabia, China will look at this as the perfect opportunity to gain political power outside of East Asia and Indian Subcontinent. The Chinese will get the bulk of Saudi Oil with the promise that they will help maintain Saudi鈥檚 economy , keep the infrastructure running and ensure the Monarchs control over the Saudi Public.

The West ,especially USA , would not want China to ever have this benefit .

So the question comes again. Would it be a viable solution for the west to leave Middle East and block it.

Politically and Economically it can be done. But Power doesn鈥檛 work that way. Nietzsche would say the Middle East is a means to an end .
The West and Western people need and want to be in Middle East even if the Middle East says get the hell out .

And that is why its Plain Hypocrisy.

If the west really wants to protect its way of life and ensure safety for its own then the Western governments and the Western people need to grow real balls and say to hell with the middle east .Even with all the reasons mentioned above.
But unfortunately greed begets more greed and so does power.

I agree.

I'm curious if you think we're not that far off from finally creating an alternative energy source for motor vehicles that puts the nail in the coffin for the middle east and its oil. You think it's screwed up there now, just wait till no one wants their oil!
Zelcorpion 路 2015-12-07 11:20:00 路 #5372
^ This is so far off from what is really happening in the world, that there is no way any of that can happen.

And alternative energy sources incl. super-batteries have been reported since the 1970s even on TV as well as researched by high-level government facilities since at least the 1940s.

Oil would already become obsolote decades ago, but it serves an important funtion in the global economy also restricting independence of individuals.

Here is one technology you won't see ever - you can find dozens of TV clips just on youtube alone - look at the list of research facilities in the end of the TV clip - Darpa researching that tech in the 1940s as well as many others.





So anyone seeing lone wolf inventors finding fantastic means of running car on water and the like - it's all out there, but the big boys won't touch it.





Back then Foster Gamble (Procter & Gamble heir) researched suppressed technologies and visited inventors in the course of making his documentary THRIVE, he reported later that almost all inventors were threatened.

And these are low-tech inventors who have reconstructed the car to being water-powered:





Poland - I even saw once a report on Polish TV where they made fun of a grandpa who drove around in his water-powered car.





In India.

http://waterpoweredcar.com/

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And this is just cars - the same suppression goes into geo-magnetic energy generators and super-powered batteries since our current car-batteries are only marginally better than in the 1950s when they had to power 2 ton solid steel behemoths.

We might just as well ask for unicorns. There is also another likely scam going on in terms of oil, which has the very geological origin of oil concerned. There are some loud scientists who claim that oil is of mineral origin and is constantly replenished deep underground under pressure with mixture of water. I could post links to those things as well, but who cares - they say it's limited, thus it is - because the price of it is much higher if they say it's limited and derived from Dinosaur crap.

Never mind that they never manaaged to reproduce oil from biological remains - just from coal, minerals and water, but hey I am sure they will prove it someday when they start this billion year experiment.

I tell you - it's one scam after another in this world and it never ends.





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmdehw7S...9520BE95A7
Parzival 路 2015-12-07 13:20:00 路 #5373
German companies do such a lot of business in the middle east, and they are now happy that they can make deals with Iran again too. No way they will back off. Even the BND, kind of the NSA of Germany said that Saudi Arabia is the biggest factor that creates unstable environments in the area and support fanatics in Europe was cut down by the German government.
Off The Reservation 路 2015-12-08 00:35:00 路 #5374
What more proof do you need that western lesbian liberals actually crave the brute force of Islam:


AManLikePutin 路 2015-12-08 02:06:00 路 #5375
Old but gold. Finally managed to find Orban's full speech in Madrid EPP gathering in mid-October before Paris attacks. Barely any MSM reported it, but it's fantastic. He totally exposes the sell-outs and in the end gets an applause from nearly everyone, cept Merkel.






Also, about migrants coming to Canada, I've been pleasantly surprised at reaction of people. With CBC/Globe & Mail/Immigration Canada, etc all running social media campaigns 24/7 for their#refugeewelcome donations and little kids faces, and having voted that Liberal idiot to power....I was pleased to read hundreds of people' comments to this post. A lot more against and opposing than I would have imagined.

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