Post: #6626

(12-03-2015 04:27 PM)Jagnum Wrote:  Seeking some advice here from some forum experts on setting up a second date...

I met this girl, a blonde, 27-yo, 6.5. We had a first date two weeks ago on a Friday night at nice cocktail bar, a lot of touching, at one point I was stroking her face with the back of my hand, and running my hand through her hair. She enjoyed it thoroughly. Positive energy.

I knew she was leaving for Thanksgiving, so I asked her schedule. She said she'd be free Tuesday before Thanksgiving before she goes out of state.

I hit her up last Tuesday with a line borrowed from Blurred's ZDB thread, about being cold out and how I picked us up a bottle of wine. 7 or 8 pm work better? She sends back a long text a few hours later saying she has a pop-quiz that's due tomorrow before she leaves so she has to stay in on Tuesday. Probably bullshit. I just respond with "Oh." (I had just read Hank Moody's texting post).

This week, I hit her up Monday. Just to reconnect. "Are you all tan from your trip to (warm city she lives in)? Feel like I'm whiter the longer I live in (this city)." We text a bit, I don't ask her out.

Wednesday of this week, I text her "I just had an amazing glass of wine. You should be here right now." She responds back, "I would but I have class in 15, where's here?" I tell her I'm at my place, we banter a bit more. I tell her to finish class and her studies and come over after class like 9 pm, but she tells me she can't stay out that late during the school week. So I tell her what's better Friday or Sunday? She says she could do Sunday, and asks me what I had in mind. I tell her, "We'll relax and watch a movie."

This morning, she replies, "Or we could venture out into the world and see a movie in theaters, I hear Night Before Christmas is movie is pretty good."

Argh. Girls who make setting up second dates a real pain. If this was a first date, it'd be easy to respond, "Hey I'm the one asking you out, if you want to go out, that's what we'll do." But this is a second date.

I'm thinking sending her a message before this Sunday along the lines, "Let's have a drink out, we'll go together to see a movie another time." Then a classic go to bar, bounce to my place, escalate. Or I don't know, maybe if we see a movie early enough in the afternoon, we do GO right to my place afterwards.

.....

"You should have just banged her on the first date." I know that works for many of the guys on this forum (or a zero date bang, which again, seems to work best for girls you meet online). For me, the one-date bang approach just hasn't yielded results. Tried it for the last nine months, my conversions from date to bang are just awful. For example over the three month period from mid-June to mid-September, I had 17 first dates and only one bang from these dates. I'm not in NYC now, there's a lot more ASD, many girls won't put out on first date here, especially girls who are over 21. So I'm trying Blackdragon's two date approach, which he suggests is far more successful.

He suggests to get her to your place on the second date directly, and if she won't, suggest another cocktail drink at a fancy bar. No time limit on a second date (first date <90 mins). Be heavy in your kino, kiss her, bounce her to your place, and push all the way to sex.

I use a modified version of Blackdragon's 2 date bang recipe a few times a quarter. I usually start the second date with a late afternoon beach walk, transition to drinks, then bring the girl to my place for "a bite to eat". We almost always "just happen to" have a passionate evening.

Post: #6627

Phew that was a big weekend. Banged 3 different girls (1 new girl, 1 plate and my main girl) and my dick is thoroughly spent.
I haven't had a 3 girl weekend in a while and I was cutting the timing fairly close with my plate and the main. Kicked the plate out and just had time to change the sheets and have a shower before my main rocked up.
I wasn't going to risk it with the plate but she was literally begging for the D.

Post: #6628

Shot a phone call to my Old Franchise Plate.
Girl been on the same team for YEARS like Tim Duncan.

She offered to come over in the few hours,
I didn't even ask.

Guess I gotta fuck the shit out her.
Girls hate to be disappointed.

Sometimes I feel bad, this girl, I've never even breathed the word exclusivity.
She goes through cycles of dating other dudes...
I don't spoil her, take her out, we only meet in my bed.
Yet she keeps coming back.

Pull her to my room & start undressing her...

I should be happy & I am,
To the Red Pill.

Post: #6629

'Fuckboy' when used by women referring to men seems to be a derogatory term for player. Or at least, it's a way for women to feel better about themselves when they are pumped and dumped by a guy. Instead of dismissing him as a 'player' (which is a complimentary term) they will dismiss him as a 'fuckboy', thus putting him down and giving them an ego boost.

Post: #6630

^^ Beautiful 1026

Post: #6631

Guys, have you ever, get involved with a girl that you thought was a hardcore slut, but then found out that she was a decent girl?

I've been pondering this question for a long time and of course I thought such a thing doesn't exist. But a few guys who know better than me said: "you are assuming she's guilty unless proven innocence. If she is someone you care about, that could be a big regret"

Post: #6632

@Dalaran

Oh yeah. The mark of a veteran player in my opinion is how little they go off appearances.

WIA

Post: #6633

(12-07-2015 02:01 PM)youngblazer Wrote:  Instead of dismissing him as a 'player' (which is a complimentary term) they will dismiss him as a 'fuckboy', thus putting him down and giving them an ego boost.

I'm not sure why they think its a put-down. If I got the nickname of 'fuckboy' I'd beam from ear-to-ear and declare my self-improvement journey complete.

Post: #6634

(12-07-2015 06:14 PM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  Guys, have you ever, get involved with a girl that you thought was a hardcore slut, but then found out that she was a decent girl?

I've been pondering this question for a long time and of course I thought such a thing doesn't exist. But a few guys who know better than me said: "you are assuming she's guilty unless proven innocence. If she is someone you care about, that could be a big regret"

Ca't say I've ever come across a girl like this, the red flags/slut tells don't lie. Although like anything I'm sure there is an exception to the rule out there somewhere... maybe.
In any case you should be able to figure out a girls true nature before you get to the stage of "caring" about her and if you can't then you're asking the wrong questions or she's very good at hiding her true self.
Normally it's the other way around, a girl who looks innocent and sweet on the outside but is actually a raging slut. Those I've come across plenty of times.

(12-08-2015 06:34 AM)Phoenix Wrote:  

(12-07-2015 02:01 PM)youngblazer Wrote:  Instead of dismissing him as a 'player' (which is a complimentary term) they will dismiss him as a 'fuckboy', thus putting him down and giving them an ego boost.

I'm not sure why they think its a put-down. If I got the nickname of 'fuckboy' I'd beam from ear-to-ear and declare my self-improvement journey complete.

Cheers to that. Any time a girl tells me I'm mean, an asshole, etc I view it as a compliment and know I'm doing things right.
The same goes for when I tell my blue pill mates about my escapades and they call me the same thing, I know they're just jealous.

Post: #6635

Quote:Oh yeah. The mark of a veteran player in my opinion is how little they go off appearances.

WIA you mind elaborating? Here or on PM, I would love to hear.

(12-08-2015 05:45 PM)Roardog Wrote:  or she's very good at hiding her true self.

This is what I'm afraid of.

For every male player there's a better female player, and I've seen in person seasoned players who finally decide that they found a good girl settling down, only to find out the hard truth later.

I'm not talking about the "she aint nothing you can compare to your neighborhood ho" crowd, I'm talking about experienced players the level of WIA or so, and the girl seems so authentic you and I would both agree she's a catch, only to be devastated later.

I guess you can never really have faith in a woman. You can only have faith in yourself, that the moment you see the truth you can get up and walk away instead of sticking around like some blue pill chode.

The other way around, I've seen plenty myself too, not a problem.

Post: #6636

(12-07-2015 06:14 PM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  Guys, have you ever, get involved with a girl that you thought was a hardcore slut, but then found out that she was a decent girl?

I've been pondering this question for a long time and of course I thought such a thing doesn't exist. But a few guys who know better than me said: "you are assuming she's guilty unless proven innocence. If she is someone you care about, that could be a big regret"

I would have to meet this girl personally and see her out in a bar / club setting to really see. My first impression is that what you are talking about is impossible.

Heres what I mean.

1 - If a girl has a very open personality, very attractive and inviting, she has had tons of guys hitting on her and she likes the attention. She has banged an incredible number of dudes, triple digits for sure. Where there's smoke, there's fire.

2 - The qualities that make you think she is a party slut, no matter what they might be, also lead to other guys thinking the same thing, which would make guys approach her, which would lead to number 1.

Post: #6637

Talk about a dud of a date, I was more interested in getting a high score bowling than I was talking to her. I didn't even drink, but did pay for the bowling, whatever, I had fun bowling.

She was nice, I just didn't find her as attractive in person, and her teeth bugged me. No wonder she's claimed to of had tinder over a year and couldn't find anyone.

The cute indian girl I banged last week hit me up to hangout again....we just hungout Monday - I have a feeling she's getting attached. She KNOWS I'm not really down for an LTR and don't have time to fuck with one. She's also gotta shave that pussy.

I'm also having mixed feelings on staying with my LTR or cutting her loose. Talking to the person who cuts my hair - made me have some revelations about our relationship.

I'll probably write some more in detail when the time is right and I can think clear.

I'm also overwhelming myself in farming numbers, I need to stop. It's getting to the point where I need to into the "Details" portion of our chats on iPhone to see the selfie and remember who I'm talking to. Fortunately I've nexted about 3 girls without meeting them.

Post: #6638

Ugh... my main girl last night dropped the dreaded "I've been sexually assaulted" red flag. We've been seeing each other for almost a year, what a shame, I really liked this girl. Now she's just put a cross through herself.

Post: #6639

As far as notches go, December is crunch time. To make up for it, I reopened okc (still dont use it much) and tinder. Its pretty bad how quick interest is lost on that app. I was talking to an interesting white chick with tats. She seemed interested enough and even asked about my schedule. When I went for the number, she unmatched me.

Going to work on day game a bit more to make things happen.

Post: #6640

(12-10-2015 03:56 AM)~wrIghter~ Wrote:  As far as notches go, December is crunch time.

Why is this, are you trying to reach a goal?

I haven't been around here lately because...I'm doing the opposite.

Last weekend I got a +1 19 year old, which rounds up 12 notches in 2015 for me. And now I don't want to go out at all. In January I set 12 notches in a year as my goal...I've done it. Now I'm taking the time to reflect on the past year, take a break from alcohol, stack paper, lose weight (shoutout cutting squad #1), and rest. The bars have slowed down here as finals started.

It also seems relationship season is amongst us. Many of my friends are entering relationships. I have avoided anything serious but old hoes are reaching out to "see how I'm doing."

Winter is interesting...last year I fell into a major slump, but this year I'm content. I've made lifestyle changes (friend group, gym, Bright Light Therapy, tanning) that put me in a better mindset. Life is pretty dope.

Post: #6641

Went on a date this morning with a girl at the worst time in her life which I'll explain below. I met her doing day game at the grocery last week. I kept trying to go for drinks in the evenings but she would suggest tea or coffee. I finally agreed to a morning tea date.

She's a former bartender who just got baptized last week. Born again Christian. Like I said, the worst time. When she told me she dedicated her life to Christ on the date I could tell she was looking at me closely to gauge my reaction, which was blank poker face.

Kino on the date, a little hand holding and a bit of blushing on her part. Then, when we said our goodbyes, she gave me the damned Christian side hug. I can't remember the last time that happened. I was speechless and just said "see ya"

Either she's not attracted or, since she's born again, she's got some kind of dating rules now. I'll err on the first because to think it's just her dating rules is to spare my ego. Either way, I'll probably drop a "hail mary" - pun intended - text next week.

I set a date with another cute girl that works at a pharmacy I frequent. We often would flirt but other customers or coworkers made it impossible to ask her out. I ran into her at the same grocery store this Monday. Chatted her up and set the date for Friday evening. She commented on Monday "I've been seeing you all over"

This evening, the day before our date, I'm at the same grocery. As soon as I walk in I see her and she doesn't see me. I walk the other way as I really don't want to see her the day before the date. I don't really know why either.

I get my groceries and cash out without seeing her and am driving home. I'm in thick traffic on the road near a crosswalk. She walks right in front of my truck and when I glance at her, she's looking right at me with a slight smile on her face. She doesn't wave but averts her eyes back to the thick traffic and walks in front of my truck through traffic to the other side. I watched her walk by and noticed her ass looked good in yoga pants.

I had to laugh as it's as if fate or whatever wanted us to see each other tonight. I don't know if that bodes positively or what. Surely just pure coincidence. I'll probably do my usual confirm text tomorrow afternoon and act like nothing happened. I thought it was funny though.

Post: #6642

(12-10-2015 08:36 AM)redbeard Wrote:  

(12-10-2015 03:56 AM)~wrIghter~ Wrote:  As far as notches go, December is crunch time.

Why is this, are you trying to reach a goal?

I haven't been around here lately because...I'm doing the opposite.

Last weekend I got a +1 19 year old, which rounds up 12 notches in 2015 for me. And now I don't want to go out at all. In January I set 12 notches in a year as my goal...I've done it. Now I'm taking the time to reflect on the past year, take a break from alcohol, stack paper, lose weight (shoutout cutting squad #1), and rest. The bars have slowed down here as finals started.

It also seems relationship season is amongst us. Many of my friends are entering relationships. I have avoided anything serious but old hoes are reaching out to "see how I'm doing."

Winter is interesting...last year I fell into a major slump, but this year I'm content. I've made lifestyle changes (friend group, gym, Bright Light Therapy, tanning) that put me in a better mindset. Life is pretty dope.

My goal was to have +1 post game lay. Just one. No SIFs, 4-5s, or whatever (I was tempted when I was doing No Fap fully). I didn't want to get it that way. I only found out about game in November, but started pursuing more of the lifestyle in January.

A majority of it consisted of online game, which I've gone through a lot to improve but hasn't been fruitful. My highlight was a Day 2 with a blonde, no bang. Getting a number is no longer the hard part. Its getting the girl out.

As far as lifestyle goals, I've made more money in a week than I ever did at my old job. Its a flexible gig and allows me put focus in other areas like fitness, and continuing my programming studies. I went from being mostly skinny fat, to pretty lean. Fitness goal is to be lean but ripped. I'm seeing the results and continuing to put in the work.

In summary, I've made big strides in other areas, but haven't got over the hump yet as far as getting my first post game lay.

Post: #6643

(12-10-2015 08:26 PM)robreke Wrote:  Went on a date this morning with a girl at the worst time in her life which I'll explain below. I met her doing day game at the grocery last week. I kept trying to go for drinks in the evenings but she would suggest tea or coffee. I finally agreed to a morning tea date.

She's a former bartender who just got baptized last week. Born again Christian. Like I said, the worst time. When she told me she dedicated her life to Christ on the date I could tell she was looking at me closely to gauge my reaction, which was blank poker face.
-snip-

Dude that same shit happened to a girl I knew just a few days ago.

We'd pg-13 sext eachother about hanging out, more like perverted jokes.

Backstory is she initially liked me, I ended up fucking her best friend, she dates a guy, he dies, falls off the face of the earth, dates again, gets single, starts snapping me.

She lives local but I just have been busy and the what do you know, she gets fucking baptized this last sunday, mother fucker.

I've also had a girl have the "you know what ? I'm not a slut anymore" epiphany while her tits were out of her bra lol.

Shit happens man.

Post: #6644

(12-10-2015 03:56 AM)~wrIghter~ Wrote:  As far as notches go, December is crunch time. To make up for it, I reopened okc (still dont use it much) and tinder. Its pretty bad how quick interest is lost on that app. I was talking to an interesting white chick with tats. She seemed interested enough and even asked about my schedule. When I went for the number, she unmatched me.

Going to work on day game a bit more to make things happen.

Yup.

College girls come back to town and are looking for some quick dick. After months of dealing with slobs, I'm a welcomed changed of pace.

Post: #6645

Trying to minimise alcohol and drug consumption on my nights out. Went out last night and had just 3 beers. What I've notice when I'm close to sober is I won't have as big of a 'not give a shit' attitude and won't push as hard.

My current method for the lay is:
- Approach (good body language, tonality, physicality)
- Attraction (escalate physically, find out her logistical info [who she's with, where she lives], plant the idea in her head of her coming home with me [tell her we're having an after party at my house and she should come]
- Close (her providing objections to coming home with me [if objections not overcome # close, if are overcome SNL])

The sticking point while gaming sober is I'm not pulling the trigger quickly enough on my suggestion for the after party and she's just pencilling me in as a cool guy she's attracted to rather than a sex god. On three separate occasions (I made only 4 approaches) I had 10 minute conversations where the girl was interrupted by friends and said she'll 'be back in a minute' or 'I am just going to the bathroom wait for me'.

Girls' attention spans around the world are getting shorter and shorter by the day. If I want to take my game from intermediate to a level of mastery I'm going to have to push even harder.

Post: #6646

Deleting my Tinder Profile has been one of the best choices I made for my dating life. I don't waste time on meeting girls who just want attention, and talk to more girls everywhere. No insecurity about whether they find me attractive or not.

Post: #6647

I have this girl in my rotation who is a runner, has a butterface but a killer bod. I stop by her place every now and then just enough to keep her on the hook. Sex is good.
Anyway, I recently started hooking up with this girl that is thick with fake tits, really attractive face, she has the whole bartender look going for her. Except first 2 times we went to have sex my dick was just not having it. It wouldn't get hard or it would get hard for a short amount of time and soft again. First I thought it was because I was nervous, then I thought it was because I had a couple of drinks. Then I started cutting some supplements I was taking thinking that was the issue. I was able to bang her out good 2 other times but I really had to concentrate.
So then today this other girl calls me I haven't seen in a while, she has a nice slim body, cute, feminine, short. As soon as we start making out my dick is like okay its go time and just acts like a champ the whole way through.

Never had this issue before. Before I used to just fuck any girl I could no problem, dumpster diving and all that stuff, if she had a vagina it was on. Now it seems I can't have sex with girls that are above a certain body fat percentage and i'm not even conscious of it, my penis just doesn't respond. Strangest thing ever.

Post: #6648

The city I'm in is starting to get way too small. I can't even go out anymore without seeing multiple girls I've banged before. It kinda puts a dent in my game, because I have sort of a public figure job and cant been seen with all these different girls. People in this city talk way too much.

Anyone else dealt with this before?

Post: #6649

(12-11-2015 09:34 AM)DMario Wrote:  The city I'm in is starting to get way too small. I can't even go out anymore without seeing multiple girls I've banged before. It kinda puts a dent in my game, because I have sort of a public figure job and cant been seen with all these different girls. People in this city talk way too much.

Anyone else dealt with this before?

Yup,

A sorority back in college. I was their sweetheart's little so he was getting complaints from many of the girls. I basically had to stop fucking around and find another sorority to plunder.

Your job is more important so better to just pick one or find another city close by.

Post: #6650

How I see some dudes in relationships on IG:





Bunch of fucking cucks