(11-10-2015 05:56 PM)Samseau Wrote: The warrior spirit of America is the reason American cannot be easily conquered like Europe is. Mass immigration can backfire tremendously if different parts of the USA simply stop paying their taxes to the federal government and shut off their state borders to the ones connected to mass immigration states. The Federal government will be unable to fight off a well-armed citizenry and most of the military forces would easily rebel.
Conversely, in Europe, the citizens will be easily killed by their own governments should they rebel. They are going to get raped or die. The Christian warrior spirit is alive and well in large swaths of America, and the fall of Europe will merely be like the fall of Constantinople as the center of power finishes transferring from Europe to America.
The historical analogy is the 4th Crusade was to Europe what WW2 was to America, and WW3 is to Europe what the Fall of Constantinople was to the Byzantine Empire.
(11-14-2015 01:45 PM)LE50 Wrote:
(11-14-2015 06:30 AM)spalex Wrote: Let me predict next weeks headlines:
Would this have happened if we let in more refugees?
Paris attacks means we need more refugees!
(11-14-2015 02:11 PM)Dusty Wrote:
(11-14-2015 06:30 AM)spalex Wrote: Let me predict next weeks headlines:
Would this have happened if we let in more refugees?
So how do the terrorist attacks in Paris of Sept. 13th change things, politically?
First, I want to state at just how brazen and foolish these Islamic invaders are. They truly are low IQ. If they were intelligent and wanted to guarantee total victory, they would have waited for another 4-5 million more "refugees" to enter the country before making a major attack on a capital city.
I figured they would have kept their attacks to the countryside because the traitorous left would have been able to cover up the crimes as millions were looted, raped, and murdered.
However, this major attack within the heart of Paris, which nearly killed Hollande, forces the left to potentially make enemies with the Muslims for a large number of reasons.
First, the publicity of the attacks make it clear that the "far-right" parties were totally correct. Everyone is paying attention now. For the left to continue with multikulti bullshit just makes them look like retards, and elections are right around the corner. The only way to preserve their power is to go hard against Islam, or hope their brainwashing is successful enough to have people ignore these attacks. Either way, the left has their backs against the wall and must alter their narrative or lose control.
Already we see many leftists trying to state the reason for the attacks was due to our poor treatment of Muslims in the Middle East but I'm not sure how convincing it will be to the majority of brainwashed cucks in France, Germany, Sweden, or Britain.
Scenario #1: This could cause a political turnaround back to the "right" (i.e. self-preservation). Deportation, nationalism, encouragement of high birthrates through family-first policies, etc.
Scenario #2: The left successfully hijacks this event to somehow further consolidate their power and continue to use muslims as a pawn to keep power. In this event, WW3 continues unabated and the deaths of millions are all but guaranteed. People who don't want Islam or people raping their daughters or invading their homes will form groups and just start killing Muslims everywhere they can find them once the desperation sets in, while the left will work to protect them by attacking "the right" and providing weapons to the "refugees" for "resisting the right."
Scenario #3: The left "becomes" the right by doing all the things the right wants: deportations, closing of borders, no more immigrants, banning of Islam, etc. The left does this to keep power, but also, the left knows they are going to lose the Islamic vote no matter what if they close the borders, so they just go full Nazi. There is no way the France can close its borders without being ready to use serious violence to stop the invasion, and is the left ready to start shooting Muslims? I don't think so, so this third alternative is the least likely.
I'm no prophet - just a very well read man. The three above scenarios are how things could play out, and we will know after the elections are over how things will fare for Western Europe. The elections are all happening within a year. From France to USA regime change is coming - will democracy survive and vote in people to preserve itself or will it commit suicide?
Before the Sept. 13th attacks, it would have been a victory for the left and Islam in all of Western Europe, but these attacks got worldwide attention and have seriously scared the shit out of everyone in the West, not just in Western Europe. And that this is all happening on an election year ups the ante by 1 million.
Since I am a betting man, my money goes on option 2: the left will hijack the narrative, win their elections by combining the White left with the Muslims. Meanwhile Eastern Europe and America goes hardcore right, setting up a major WW3 between populations all over Western Europe, the Middle East (including both Russia and China fighting there), and Northern Africa.
The other big unknown is how American elections will turn out, but Trump's popularity grows everyday and after these Paris attacks 8 out of 10 Americans will want a President who is strong against Islam and strong against illegal invasions. I think Trump's chances of getting elected have crossed the 50% chance mark so we will see America go "right." This is good for Western Europe's survival and bad for Islam. But again Americans may be just as cucked as Europeans, we shall see. I still have hope for the warrior Christian spirit of America.
The Muslims could have had a guaranteed victory but by being too aggressive it is possible they have overplayed their hand and will force the left to become their enemies or cause a right-wing victory. The Muslims sheer arrogance is easily their biggest weakness. These losers think they are invincible and that Allah is real, so their pride leads them to a fall.
Even when given every advantage to succeed, these Muslims still manage to jeopardize their position. Again, the Muslims were given:
- Free food, housing
- Stationing in Military bases around small towns and villages in Western Europe
- Unlimited immigration
- A large criminal network to provide them with weapons
And even with all of these advantages they may be now throwing it all away with some big flashy terrorist Allah Akubar retard attack. Islam continues to prove why they aren't capable of being a true world power. Just a bunch of monkeys.
Quote:The possibility that one of the attackers was a migrant or had posed as one is sure to further complicate the already vexing problem for Europe of how to handle the unceasing flow of people from Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan and elsewhere. It could also lend weight to the xenophobic arguments of right-wing populists like Marine Le Pen, the leader of the National Front party, who on Saturday held a news conference to declare that “France and the French are no longer safe.”
(11-14-2015 03:56 PM)Samseau Wrote: So how do the terrorist attacks in Paris of Sept. 13th change things, politically?
First, I want to state at just how brazen and foolish these Islamic invaders are. They truly are low IQ. If they were intelligent and wanted to guarantee total victory, they would have waited for another 4-5 million more "refugees" to enter the country before making a major attack on a capital city.
I figured they would have kept their attacks to the countryside because the traitorous left would have been able to cover up the crimes as millions were looted, raped, and murdered.
However, this major attack within the heart of Paris, which nearly killed Hollande, forces the left to potentially make enemies with the Muslims for a large number of reasons.
First, the publicity of the attacks make it clear that the "far-right" parties were totally correct. Everyone is paying attention now. For the left to continue with multikulti bullshit just makes them look like retards, and elections are right around the corner. The only way to preserve their power is to go hard against Islam, or hope their brainwashing is successful enough to have people ignore these attacks. Either way, the left has their backs against the wall and must alter their narrative or lose control.
Already we see many leftists trying to state the reason for the attacks was due to our poor treatment of Muslims in the Middle East but I'm not sure how convincing it will be to the majority of brainwashed cucks in France, Germany, Sweden, or Britain.
Scenario #1: This could cause a political turnaround back to the "right" (i.e. self-preservation). Deportation, nationalism, encouragement of high birthrates through family-first policies, etc.
Scenario #2: The left successfully hijacks this event to somehow further consolidate their power and continue to use muslims as a pawn to keep power. In this event, WW3 continues unabated and the deaths of millions are all but guaranteed. People who don't want Islam or people raping their daughters or invading their homes will form groups and just start killing Muslims everywhere they can find them once the desperation sets in, while the left will work to protect them by attacking "the right" and providing weapons to the "refugees" for "resisting the right."
Scenario #3: The left "becomes" the right by doing all the things the right wants: deportations, closing of borders, no more immigrants, banning of Islam, etc. The left does this to keep power, but also, the left knows they are going to lose the Islamic vote no matter what if they close the borders, so they just go full Nazi. There is no way the France can close its borders without being ready to use serious violence to stop the invasion, and is the left ready to start shooting Muslims? I don't think so, so this third alternative is the least likely.
I'm no prophet - just a very well read man. The three above scenarios are how things could play out, and we will know after the elections are over how things will fare for Western Europe. The elections are all happening within a year. From France to USA regime change is coming - will democracy survive and vote in people to preserve itself or will it commit suicide?
Before the Sept. 13th attacks, it would have been a victory for the left and Islam in all of Western Europe, but these attacks got worldwide attention and have seriously scared the shit out of everyone in the West, not just in Western Europe. And that this is all happening on an election year ups the ante by 1 million.
Since I am a betting man, my money goes on option 2: the left will hijack the narrative, win their elections by combining the White left with the Muslims. Meanwhile Eastern Europe and America goes hardcore right, setting up a major WW3 between populations all over Western Europe, the Middle East (including both Russia and China fighting there), and Northern Africa.
The other big unknown is how American elections will turn out, but Trump's popularity grows everyday and after these Paris attacks 8 out of 10 Americans will want a President who is strong against Islam and strong against illegal invasions. I think Trump's chances of getting elected have crossed the 50% chance mark so we will see America go "right." This is good for Western Europe's survival and bad for Islam. But again Americans may be just as cucked as Europeans, we shall see. I still have hope for the warrior Christian spirit of America.
The Muslims could have had a guaranteed victory but by being too aggressive it is possible they have overplayed their hand and will force the left to become their enemies or cause a right-wing victory. The Muslims sheer arrogance is easily their biggest weakness. These losers think they are invincible and that Allah is real, so their pride leads them to a fall.
Even when given every advantage to succeed, these Muslims still manage to jeopardize their position. Again, the Muslims were given:
- Free food, housing
- Stationing in Military bases around small towns and villages in Western Europe
- Unlimited immigration
- A large criminal network to provide them with weapons
And even with all of these advantages they may be now throwing it all away with some big flashy terrorist Allah Akubar retard attack. Islam continues to prove why they aren't capable of being a true world power. Just a bunch of monkeys.
(11-14-2015 03:56 PM)Samseau Wrote: First, I want to state at just how brazen and foolish these Islamic invaders are. They truly are low IQ. If they were intelligent and wanted to guarantee total victory, they would have waited for another 4-5 million more "refugees" to enter the country before making a major attack on a capital city.
If you know, who is behind ISIS, then you know, why this happened now. The members of ISIS might actually be fanatical jihadists who just simply want to kill the infidels, but those who control them are not. This incident won’t stop those states who are already taking in the migrants from continuing with their policy of madness. At the same time, it will allow NATO full intervention in Syria to do themselves, what ISIS was supposed to accomplish but couldn’t because of Putins intervention. NATO will thereby produce even more migrants - or rather actually genuine refugees. So it will lead to additional islamization of Europe, thus destabilization of Europe while at the same time gaining control over the strategically very important area called Syria. Let’s summarize: Christians in Europe lose, Muslims in the Middle East lose. - Now who is left that could possibly profit from this?
You’re one of my favourite posters, but please don’t start drawing conclusions too quickly or underestimating the enemy.
Quote:Despite what you hear on Fox News (and for that matter from Islamic extremists), available data suggests that the Muslim minority is relatively well integrated and increasingly secular.
I can say with great confidence that the Paris attackers have allies and accomplices in the West, and I do not mean among the Muslim population (who are likely to suffer the effects of Friday’s events as much as anyone). But the real allies and accomplices of ISIS are too dumb or too deluded to understand whose ends they serve. I’m not talking about American conservatrolls who tried to turn the Paris tragedy into an excuse to bash immigrants and college activists and even, in the inimitable case of Newt Gingrich, gun control. (Newt has not looked at the relative murder statistics of France and the United States, it would appear.) Those people are too ignorant and small-minded to require rebuttal.
But those who equate a handful of murderous militants with all of Islam, first of all, are fundamentally on the same side as Friday’s attackers.
It appears France is thoroughly cucked. Scenario #2 I listed definately seems the most likely.
In this video, which was posted today, a group of young Frenchmen are protesting in the streets against the Islamic threat. Police quickly arrive. Mobs form and start yelling and screaming at them, probably calling them racists or fascists in French.
Then the police eventually surround them, take them all down and make arrests while the mob cheers on the police.
Goodbye France, I am so glad I got to visit you before you turned into a Muslim shithole. You were so beautiful. But ultimately too many of you were weak little faggots, it was nice knowing you.
(11-14-2015 04:56 PM)Samseau Wrote: It appears France is thoroughly cucked. Scenario #2 I listed definately seems the most likely.
In this video, which was posted today, a group of young Frenchmen are protesting in the streets against the Islamic threat. Police quickly arrive. Mobs form and start yelling and screaming at them, probably calling them racists or fascists in French.
Then the police eventually surround them, take them all down and make arrests while the mob cheers on the police.
Goodbye France, I am so glad I got to visit you before you turned into a Muslim shithole. You were so beautiful. But ultimately too many of you were weak little faggots, it was nice knowing you.
This is pretty funny:
There is a really good point in there which has been addressed in a comic that was posted before.
If all those peaceful muslims were so shocked and appalled as they say they are, the streets of Paris should be full of them soon in silent marches holding up "we're sorry" signs.
You know, like college kids singing songs about dropping bombs on Japan. Or politicians to this day visiting war monuments in other countries to mourn and pay their respect. They didn't have anything to do with that either, but they decided to send a message.
How many muslim leaders are paying their respects at ground zero?
Do their kids have to visit New York or Paris, like I had to visit Auschwitz?
Are these peaceful muslims actively working hard to find common ground?
You think it should be easy to infiltrate or keep tabs on those extremists when there are so many of them disagreeing with what they do.
I wonder how many anonymous tips about extremism the police gets from other muslims vs from Christians. I would just really love such a statistic and then see who really cares about peace.
If someone did something so atrocious in the name of something I care deeply about I would be printing T-shirts right now, planning silent marches and reaching out.
And while exactly those things are happening right now it's the cucked westerners doing it.
Almost literally fighting for something that hurts them, while those responsible get away with a muttered comment of "not agreeing with that".
I DON'T CARE YOU DON'T AGREE. DO SOMETHING.
But they won't. Because while "not agreeing" is fine with their belief, actively fighting the muslim expansion is not. They would just fucking love to take over here.
What's so funny to me is that leftists have basically created their own religion without realizing it. The "religious freedom" at all cost is something they pursue ever bit as fanatically as muslim extremists pursue their agenda.
(11-14-2015 04:56 PM)Samseau Wrote: In this video, which was posted today, a group of young Frenchmen are protesting in the streets against the Islamic threat. Police quickly arrive. Mobs form and start yelling and screaming at them, probably calling them racists or fascists in French.
Then the police eventually surround them, take them all down and make arrests while the mob cheers on the police.
Goodbye France, I am so glad I got to visit you before you turned into a Muslim shithole. You were so beautiful. But ultimately too many of you were weak little faggots, it was nice knowing you.
To be honest, it takes some balls to yell "Islam out of Europe" in France, because of the soft dictature we live in. "Antifa" can be violent and agressive, they always have the aura of "justice" with them.
But it is less and less the case. Trust me, I come from a true leftist family, in the last 10 years I saw political discussions during family reunions change completely.
People are changing their mind, they don't talk out too much because the repercussion can be severe (as far as loosing your job), but the "Front National" is now the first french party in term of votes. Something is happening.
PS: to be fair, the police stopped them because since the attack all protests are forbidden in the whole country (even the leftists protests)
French media blackout about french anti islam protests
That video is three years old today.
I know, it's just an example of what french medias don't show. When you watch french tv it seems like everyone here is a leftist, and that it's the correct way of thinking if you want to be accepted by the society. And yet the far right party is now the first party of France. In the mean time no one admits voting fot them.
Yeah, I guess I shouldn't have posted it without comment. I took it straight from r/European and didn't bother to check because in the end I didn't really care if it's a joke. This type of argument WILL be used. Just a matter of when, where and how.
The other article is using it already.
The picture of dozens sandpeople trecking alongside animals is probably a give away. True leftists would've posted some sad-looking, yet well-dressed school children mourning the fact they can't go to Uni in Munich to study astrophysics.
I did some number crunching around what total population would theoretically be required if the radicalized Male Muslims were to carry out a murder in the name of Islam knowing that 72 virgins await...
Global Population 7,151,510,000
Total Muslim Population 2,038,040,000
Muslim global percentage 28.50%
Male Muslims 50%
Radicalised men min 15%
Radicalised men max 25%
Theoretical amount of Men range from 152,853,000 to 254,755,000
If 72 Virgin Muslim females are required per Man , we need a current population of 11,005,416,000 to 18,342,360,000 Virgins
Global population therefore would need to be between 77,236,308,000 (77 Billion) to 128,727,180,000 people* (128 Billion)
*Assuming
1. the radicalised 25% are willing to give up their life
2. They are all male, not sure what happens with 72 virgin females for women???
3. Muslims only want Muslim virgin females
Times current world population Minimum 10.8 to 18 times the current population.
Please feel free to correct any math mistakes
(11-14-2015 08:04 PM)Bazzwaldo Wrote: I did some number crunching around what total population would theoretically be required if the radicalized Male Muslims were to carry out a murder in the name of Islam knowing that 72 virgins await...
Global Population 7,151,510,000
Total Muslim Population 2,038,040,000
Muslim global percentage 28.50%
Male Muslims 50%
Radicalised men min 15%
Radicalised men max 25%
Theoretical amount of Men range from 152,853,000 to 254,755,000
If 72 Virgin Muslim females are required per Man , we need a current population of 11,005,416,000 to 18,342,360,000 Virgins
Global population therefore would need to be between 77,236,308,000 (77 Billion) to 128,727,180,000 people* (128 Billion)
*Assuming
1. the radicalised 25% are willing to give up their life
2. They are all male, not sure what happens with 72 virgin females for women???
3. Muslims only want Muslim virgin females
Times current world population Minimum 10.8 to 18 times the current population.
Please feel free to correct any math mistakes
This reminds me of a thought I had recently:
(not attacking your post, I like the numbers)
Muslims don't believe in 72 virgins.
If they REALLY believed in 72 virgins for blowing themselves up somewhere we would have days like the 13th in Paris EVERYDAY, EVERYWHERE.
The male muslim life expectancy would be 16. Or pretty much whenever they reach puberty.
But not even they are that stupid. They know full-well that it's better to be alive living off welfare than to build bombs and die.
It's only the easily manipulated ones that end up doing it, and I'm certain they are being heavily pressured by their "brothers". Having talked themselves so deeply into radical ideas that they can't back out anymore without losing all respect, friends or family.
For a real war they can win a lot more youngsters. But it's for the excitement, the money, the women, the brotherhood with other men and similar "earthly human needs and motives". They just use their religion to pursue those needs recklessly. To be absolved of questions of morals.
They don't actually want to die. I've seen footage of ISIS fighters getting bombed to dust and in the last second before impact (leading to death with 100% certainty) they all ran.
No one stood there welcoming their reunion with Allah and 72 virgins.
So they are either all cowards, or they don't actually believe in this stuff.
It's only when they want to satisfy their urges that the Quran is holy. But when it asks for things that aren't convenient to them it gets straight up ignored.
(11-14-2015 08:04 PM)Bazzwaldo Wrote: Global population therefore would need to be between 77,236,308,000 (77 Billion) to 128,727,180,000 people* (128 Billion)
*Assuming
1. the radicalised 25% are willing to give up their life
2. They are all male, not sure what happens with 72 virgin females for women???
3. Muslims only want Muslim virgin females
Times current world population Minimum 10.8 to 18 times the current population.
Please feel free to correct any math mistakes
The houris that Jihadists are promised in heaven are actually devas, some form of angelic creature, they're not actually humans; remember, according to Mohamed, very few women make it into heaven.
Where areas the majority of Christians speak about Heaven using metaphors, the Muslims are extremely literal; their Holy Book threatens them with Hell if they think about the writings (since thinking is just one step away from doubt, right?), so they lack the ability to engage in critical thought or theology. The closest they come is Imams who make political pronouncements about who should be killed, and how.