(11-12-2015 02:20 AM)Fast Eddie Wrote:(11-12-2015 01:06 AM)Going strong Wrote: Meanwhile in France, in Calais, 29 French policemen have been wounded in clashes with 250 stone-throwing (African) illegal migrants, migrants prodded on by "alter-mondialist" SJWs:
http://www.lefigaro.fr/actualite-france/...calais.php
No migrant has been wounded, because the French policemen of Calais had received orders "not to retaliate in any way"...
And, I noticed that many posters here say "Samseau exaggerates the seriousness of the situation", but hey: French police syndicate leader warns of "something totally crazy about to happen if migrants from Calais keep rebelling"... so I guess he's thinking close to Samseau's line of thoughts...
"Quatre assauts successifs d'illégaux vers la zone portuaire et la rocade de la ville, dont deux dans les dernières 24 heures, ont déjà fait 29 blessés légers côté policiers. Les syndicats de gardiens et d'officiers de police tirent le signal d'alarme. Gilles Debove, responsable local du syndicat Unité SGP Police-Force Ouvrière, met ainsi en garde: «On est inquiets, si un jour on a une révolte au sein du camp, ça va être la folie», redoute-t-il.
Ce mardi, vers 9 heures, entre 200 et 250 migrants ont ainsi fait irruption sur la rocade portuaire, certains jetant des pierres en direction des policiers. L'axe routier a dû être fermé pendant deux heures, avec tous les retards que cela suppose pour le trafic transmanche. «Les dysfonctionnements du lien Eurotunnel font désormais peser une menace sérieuse pour les entreprises qui commercent des deux côtés du channel. En Grande-Bretagne notamment, la production à flux tendu de certaines sociétés est mise en en danger"
For my English friends, I quickly translate part of it:
Production in English factories is under serious threat because Eurotunnel and its transiting commodities are disturbed
SJWs cheering and prodding the migrants, who were busy erecting barricades:
"«Nos collègues CRS ont été durement pris à partie par environ 200 migrants, organisés et armés de bâtons et divers projectiles, ayant érigé plusieurs barricades. Plus de 350 grenades lacrymogènes et de désencerclement ont été lancées cette seule nuit», assure le Syndicat des cadres de la sécurité intérieure (SCSI). Les migrants ont «démonté des panneaux de signalisation pour faire des barrages sur la rocade».
«Ils étaient aiguillonnés par des militants altermondialistes du groupe No Border»"
So, yeah, "civil war is a crazy Samseau's fantasy"... but meanwhile, hundreds of "well-organized" African migrants erect barricades in Calais and throw sticks and stones to our policemen, sending 29, then 13 more, to hospitals... To escape the furious migrants and "break their ranks", French policemen had to throw 350 smoke grenades... 350but, hey, civil war is a fantasy from "out-of-touch" Samseau...
autres témoignages font état d'une centaine de migrants tentant de pénétrer dans des domiciles de riverains et causant des dégradations. Des véhicules poids lourds ont été caillassés. Un ferry ayant accosté n'a pas pu laisser débarquer ses camions tant la situation était détériorée.:
100 migrants have entered private citizens' properties, notably to steal wood poles in order to erect barricades and throw sticks at the police. Trucks were being stoned. A ferryboat had to stop disembarking cars. :
if it's not the beginning of a civil war, what is it??
Have the migrants entered full impunity zone in some parts of France? It seems like if they can erect barricades, wound dozens of policemen and break into private homes with complete ironclad impunity, what is going to stop them from raping any females that catch their eye? Or murder for that matter. They all look the same and there is an ever shifting mass of tens of thousands of them. Unless they get caught red handed during the act itself and by a sufficient number of police to actually be overcome in their marauding bands, not a chance they face any sort of punishment.
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Quote:Die Flüchtlingspolitik müsse auf der christlichen Tradition der CDU/CSU basieren, sagte Glück. Eine uneingeschränkte Aufnahme sei aber "nicht christlich, weil sie unser gesamtes Allgemeinwesen überfordern würde". Da Deutschland nicht alle Flüchtlinge aufnehmen könne, müssten Prioritäten gesetzt werden.
Notwendig seien feste Kriterien dafür, welche Flüchtlinge besonders schutzbedürftig seien. Zu einer christlichen Flüchtlingspolitik gehöre es außerdem, sich stärker mit den Fluchtursachen auseinanderzusetzen. Sittler warnte ebenfalls vor einer unbegrenzten Aufnahme von Flüchtlingen.
"Ein unkontrollierter Zustrom von Millionen Menschen kann nicht christlich sein." Erst recht nicht christlich sei es, so vielen Menschen in Deutschland das Paradies zu verheißen, "um sie am Ende zu enttäuschen".
Quote:Auch von Christen fordert Udo Di Fabio in der Flüchtlingskrise Respekt vor Staatsgrenzen und ihrer Sicherung. "Wir können Grenzen nicht aus einem humanen Imperativ einfach aufreißen", sagte der frühere Bundesverfassungsrichter in Bremen auf der Synode der Evangelischen Kirche in Deutschland (EKD). Das war ein klarer Einspruch gegen die Positionen des offiziellen Protestantismus. Denn zuvor hatte der EKD-Ratsvorsitzende Heinrich Bedford-Strohm das Gegenteil gesagt: "Humanität und Menschenwürde kennen für uns keine Grenzen", proklamierte dieser am Sonntag. "Gegen einen Kurs der Renationalisierung in Europa" sprach sich Bedford-Strohm aus.
(11-12-2015 09:40 AM)Going strong Wrote:(11-12-2015 02:20 AM)Fast Eddie Wrote:(11-12-2015 01:06 AM)Going strong Wrote: Meanwhile in France, in Calais, 29 French policemen have been wounded in clashes with 250 stone-throwing (African) illegal migrants, migrants prodded on by "alter-mondialist" SJWs:
http://www.lefigaro.fr/actualite-france/...calais.php
No migrant has been wounded, because the French policemen of Calais had received orders "not to retaliate in any way"...
And, I noticed that many posters here say "Samseau exaggerates the seriousness of the situation", but hey: French police syndicate leader warns of "something totally crazy about to happen if migrants from Calais keep rebelling"... so I guess he's thinking close to Samseau's line of thoughts...
"Quatre assauts successifs d'illégaux vers la zone portuaire et la rocade de la ville, dont deux dans les dernières 24 heures, ont déjà fait 29 blessés légers côté policiers. Les syndicats de gardiens et d'officiers de police tirent le signal d'alarme. Gilles Debove, responsable local du syndicat Unité SGP Police-Force Ouvrière, met ainsi en garde: «On est inquiets, si un jour on a une révolte au sein du camp, ça va être la folie», redoute-t-il.
Ce mardi, vers 9 heures, entre 200 et 250 migrants ont ainsi fait irruption sur la rocade portuaire, certains jetant des pierres en direction des policiers. L'axe routier a dû être fermé pendant deux heures, avec tous les retards que cela suppose pour le trafic transmanche. «Les dysfonctionnements du lien Eurotunnel font désormais peser une menace sérieuse pour les entreprises qui commercent des deux côtés du channel. En Grande-Bretagne notamment, la production à flux tendu de certaines sociétés est mise en en danger"
For my English friends, I quickly translate part of it:
Production in English factories is under serious threat because Eurotunnel and its transiting commodities are disturbed
SJWs cheering and prodding the migrants, who were busy erecting barricades:
"«Nos collègues CRS ont été durement pris à partie par environ 200 migrants, organisés et armés de bâtons et divers projectiles, ayant érigé plusieurs barricades. Plus de 350 grenades lacrymogènes et de désencerclement ont été lancées cette seule nuit», assure le Syndicat des cadres de la sécurité intérieure (SCSI). Les migrants ont «démonté des panneaux de signalisation pour faire des barrages sur la rocade».
«Ils étaient aiguillonnés par des militants altermondialistes du groupe No Border»"
So, yeah, "civil war is a crazy Samseau's fantasy"... but meanwhile, hundreds of "well-organized" African migrants erect barricades in Calais and throw sticks and stones to our policemen, sending 29, then 13 more, to hospitals... To escape the furious migrants and "break their ranks", French policemen had to throw 350 smoke grenades... 350but, hey, civil war is a fantasy from "out-of-touch" Samseau...
autres témoignages font état d'une centaine de migrants tentant de pénétrer dans des domiciles de riverains et causant des dégradations. Des véhicules poids lourds ont été caillassés. Un ferry ayant accosté n'a pas pu laisser débarquer ses camions tant la situation était détériorée.:
100 migrants have entered private citizens' properties, notably to steal wood poles in order to erect barricades and throw sticks at the police. Trucks were being stoned. A ferryboat had to stop disembarking cars. :
if it's not the beginning of a civil war, what is it??
Have the migrants entered full impunity zone in some parts of France? It seems like if they can erect barricades, wound dozens of policemen and break into private homes with complete ironclad impunity, what is going to stop them from raping any females that catch their eye? Or murder for that matter. They all look the same and there is an ever shifting mass of tens of thousands of them. Unless they get caught red handed during the act itself and by a sufficient number of police to actually be overcome in their marauding bands, not a chance they face any sort of punishment.
Many zones already are no-go zones for the police and normal (legal) citizens, in France, and because of migrants (old or new): not only Calais camps, but also Marseille's northern area ("les quartiers nord"), parts of Roubaix or the 93 department (le 9-3)...
We have had a spat of robberies and sexual assaults since the "migrants crisis", like I reported in other threads (+3% in thefts in one month, according to police statistics; swimming pools being closed after harassments; rapes in parks)...
But the illegal migrants are currently testing the waters, little by little increasing the seriousness of their acts against French women and authority (the police)... not yet in full civil-war mode, just checking what they can or cannot yet do to us French, with impunity... also, winter has not started yet, November being very warm: they will start more home invasions when it's cold...
Reaction of leftist judges: they have ruled... against Calais' mayor, stating she is responsible, because "she failed to install toilets and showers in Calais illegal camps, leading to migrants' wrath"... yes, by law, French mayors now have to give money to install showers facilities in illegals' camps... I mean, we should order the UN to pay for that shit, not French taxpayers!
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These days, European leaders are in Malta for a summit with African heads of State, Europeans being blackmailed and robbed under threat of more invasions. Racketeering Africa has obtained more billions of our money, under a vague promise of "taking back some of its migrants"...
http://www.dw.com/en/eu-african-leaders-...a-18842461
"EU leaders have gathered with African counterparts in Malta, pledging cash in exchange for help to stem the flow of migrants across the Mediterranean. The bloc is being urged to ensure migrants' rights are respected."
A summit of total capitulation by Europe, and of fruitful racketeering by Africa: Africa's young migrating men are its nuclear WMD...
" The European Commission is establishing a 1.8-billion-euro "trust fund" for Africa, partly aimed at tackling causes of migration such as poverty and armed conflict. It has urged member states to collectively match the figure.
The money is, in part, aimed at persuading African leaders to take back more economic migrants"
""We are under incredible pressure of events," EU President Donald Tusk warned a day ahead of the meeting. "EU governments are reviewing over a million asylum applications between them, an all-time record number that would test any developed democracy.""
""With the EU seemingly intent on enlisting African nations as proxy gatekeepers, the Valetta summit is likely to result in a one-sided border control contract dressed up as a cooperation agreement. Refugees and migrants deserve and are entitled to better," said Iverna McGowan, Acting Director of Amnesty International's European Institutions Office."
SJW Iverna McGowan:
(they use our not-young, unattractive, desperate SJW women to receive pity and facilitate their invasion)
(11-12-2015 07:05 AM)FilipSRB Wrote: Military barracks are being prepared for housing the immigrants in Serbia as well (source in Serbian: http://www.danas.rs/danasrs/politika/kas...d=311042). This is obviously being done as per EU's instructions, since we have a complete puppet government here.Nobody, including myself, understates the magnitude of what's happening. Nobody, including myself, ridicules/laughs with with his posts and says it's entirely incorrect. I do agree with him that a civil war can (and probably will) happen, just not as fast as he says it will. I'm always open to change my opinion on this though, again: we're all on the same page on most issues and I respect Samseau's opinion very much. In fact he's one of my favorite posters here. I just don't think it will escalate like that (strictly talking about a full blown race/civil war) in the short term. You can call what I say 'denial' in an arrogant tone, but please motivate why it will certainly happen in the next few years according to you. Again, I am certainly open to change my opinion on this. I just don't see it happen in the near (!) future.
But please tell me again how Samseu is fear mongering.
(11-12-2015 10:33 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote: My God, what a retarded world. If European leaders wanted to get rid of migrants, they would just need to put a moratorium on social support. The flow would then stop as if you had turned off a spigot. Instead, they are continuing the only thing motivating the migrants to come while paying even more to Africa to pretend that it's going to stop them from going to collect money.
Quote:So what are the predictions of the people in this thread?
(11-12-2015 10:57 AM)RaccoonFace Wrote:(11-12-2015 07:05 AM)FilipSRB Wrote: Military barracks are being prepared for housing the immigrants in Serbia as well (source in Serbian: http://www.danas.rs/danasrs/politika/kas...d=311042). This is obviously being done as per EU's instructions, since we have a complete puppet government here.Nobody, including myself, understates the magnitude of what's happening. Nobody, including myself, ridicules/laughs with with his posts and says it's entirely incorrect. I do agree with him that a civil war can (and probably will) happen, just not as fast as he says it will. I'm always open to change my opinion on this though, again: we're all on the same page on most issues and I respect Samseau's opinion very much. In fact he's one of my favorite posters here. I just don't think it will escalate like that (strictly talking about a full blown race/civil war) in the short term. You can call what I say 'denial' in an arrogant tone, but please motivate why it will certainly happen in the next few years according to you. Again, I am certainly open to change my opinion on this. I just don't see it happen in the near (!) future.
But please tell me again how Samseu is fear mongering.
So what are the predictions of the people in this thread? I'd like to hear Zelcorpion's and certainly again Samseau's thoughts on this.
(11-12-2015 11:25 AM)Lizard King Wrote:(11-12-2015 10:57 AM)RaccoonFace Wrote:(11-12-2015 07:05 AM)FilipSRB Wrote: Military barracks are being prepared for housing the immigrants in Serbia as well (source in Serbian: http://www.danas.rs/danasrs/politika/kas...d=311042). This is obviously being done as per EU's instructions, since we have a complete puppet government here.Nobody, including myself, understates the magnitude of what's happening. Nobody, including myself, ridicules/laughs with with his posts and says it's entirely incorrect. I do agree with him that a civil war can (and probably will) happen, just not as fast as he says it will. I'm always open to change my opinion on this though, again: we're all on the same page on most issues and I respect Samseau's opinion very much. In fact he's one of my favorite posters here. I just don't think it will escalate like that (strictly talking about a full blown race/civil war) in the short term. You can call what I say 'denial' in an arrogant tone, but please motivate why it will certainly happen in the next few years according to you. Again, I am certainly open to change my opinion on this. I just don't see it happen in the near (!) future.
But please tell me again how Samseu is fear mongering.
So what are the predictions of the people in this thread? I'd like to hear Zelcorpion's and certainly again Samseau's thoughts on this.
When people say "civil war", they are using a very broad/loose definition.
it won't be a civil war at all. It will be localised street level conflict between natives and migrants(obviously), and the police will quash it very quickly. It is happening already, but will become a bit more frequent in areas of migrant concentration. The natives will be branded far-right or nazi by the media, it will take a while for the consensus to turn against the migrants.
(11-12-2015 11:36 AM)tom Wrote: Even normal middle of the road people are starting realise that the police aren't really interested in preventing immigrant crime, and are the enemy.
(11-12-2015 11:36 AM)tom Wrote: Even normal middle of the road people are starting realise that the police aren't really interested in preventing immigrant crime, and are the enemy.
(11-12-2015 11:33 AM)RaccoonFace Wrote: 'German police force in search for circulators of right wing hatespeech, 60 cops raid & search multiple homes today in Berlin'
http://www.welt.de/vermischtes/article14...ganda.html
(11-12-2015 11:28 AM)tom Wrote:(11-12-2015 11:07 AM)johnfortunebg Wrote: I also predict that a non-insignificant fraction of the actual wealth creators (people in the 75-95 percentile in income) will leave the EU in the next 10 years. This will lead to diminished output and even higher taxation than the current one.
Where to?
(11-12-2015 06:45 AM)Geomann180 Wrote:(11-11-2015 05:58 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote: - We exported our religion, our hate, our culture and destruction across the globe. The US may come in for some shit on this but it is a child in comparison. English, French and Spanish are spoken by millions for this very reason.
We? Speak for yourself.
I didn't export shit.
You can apologize for what you think your ancestors did. Not I.
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(11-12-2015 11:28 AM)tom Wrote:(11-12-2015 11:07 AM)johnfortunebg Wrote: I also predict that a non-insignificant fraction of the actual wealth creators (people in the 75-95 percentile in income) will leave the EU in the next 10 years. This will lead to diminished output and even higher taxation than the current one.
Where to?

(11-12-2015 12:08 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote: My French isn't that great so maybe Going Strong can confirm, but did I understand this correctly? A church in Montargis (northern France) conducted a Muslim prayer?
(11-12-2015 11:50 AM)johnfortunebg Wrote:(11-12-2015 11:28 AM)tom Wrote:(11-12-2015 11:07 AM)johnfortunebg Wrote: I also predict that a non-insignificant fraction of the actual wealth creators (people in the 75-95 percentile in income) will leave the EU in the next 10 years. This will lead to diminished output and even higher taxation than the current one.
Where to?
East Asia and South America primarily. Some will try the States also.
Quote:Der Verein „Refugees Welcome Bonn“ hat sich für die sexuelle Belästigung von Frauen auf einer Feier für Asylbewerber entschuldigt. „Auf der Party wurden unserer Beobachtung nach diverse Frauen von Männern belästigt, ungewollt angefaßt oder unangebracht angegangen“, schrieb der Verein auf seiner Facebook-Seite.
Quote:Refugees Welcome Bonn e.V. and Initiative für Flüchtlinge (IfF) want to comment on the incidents that happened on party on the Township on Nov. 7th and was co-organized by our groups. On the party we observed that some men molested, touched and harassed women. As co-organizers we want to apologize. During the party we tried to identify the offenders and make the leave the venue; also we made announcements where we asked to stop this behavior immediately. However, these measures were not successful. We apologize for that! Those men cast a negative light on our organization as well as on all men and male refugees, who were at our party.