http://www.welt.de/wirtschaft/article148...-2015.html

Quote:Das Institut erhöhte seine Schätzung der Kosten für den Staat auf 21,1 Milliarden Euro allein für 2015 unter der Annahme, dass bis zum Jahreswende 1,1 Millionen Menschen nach Deutschland flüchten.

For 2015 and economical institute calculate 21.1 billion Euro for 1.1 Million refugees.
All by taxpayer money.

Quote:60 Prozent der syrischen Flüchtlinge hätten weniger als acht Jahre Schulbildung genossen, schreiben die Experten in ihrer Präsentation. "Wann sollen wir sie alle ausbilden? Wir haben gar nicht so viele Ausbildungsplätze", erklärte Sinn.

60 % of syrians have a lower education, and there are not enough jobs to bring them all in.

Quote:Die Umfrage ergab allerdings auch, dass im Schnitt nur 41 Prozent der befragten Arbeitgeber daran glauben, die Flüchtlinge als Hilfsarbeiter effizient einsetzen zu können.

Just 41 % of companies think, they can use the unskilled workers for helping jobs.

(11-10-2015 06:05 PM)Kdog Wrote:  Seems all the pro pot people who voted in Trudeau forgot about this other bullshit election promise he made.

I know some people who work for Immigration (Federal Gov't), and for them it`s a double bonus - Prime Minister Zoolander is going to keep all their benefits *and* they're giddy with the prospect of all the overtime they'll be making. FFS.

(11-10-2015 06:05 PM)Kdog Wrote:  On Facebook, CBC news keeps posting articles on Canada's role. We are apparently taking in 25k before the end of the year. About 500 per day. When they post these stories the comment section explodes and the general attitude (I would say 80% at least), is that people do not like this happening. There is the occasional lefist bullshit comment but it gets lost in the overwhelming majority.

I know the numbers that are going to come into Canada is nothing compared to Europe, but this is still insanity and it is absolutely mind boggling that the government doesn't listen to the very people who elected them.
Seems all the pro pot people who voted in Trudeau forgot about this other bullshit election promise he made.

At least we don't have the so called Nazi guilt here so if we speak out we aren't immediately labeled Neo Nazis and what not.

This is going to be interesting. Fuck you Justin Trudeau.

I have noticed the same thing. After all the pandering to the left that the Canadian media has done, the sentiment in the media has been quite opposite when dealing with potential refugee crisis.

One thing is that Canada is specifically working with Lebanon to take some of the burden off them. So Canada is very likely to actually get Syrians as refugees. Real Syrians, not the fake ones rolling into Europe.

Also, most Syrians that could, are already in Canada. Due to Canada's history of immigration in letting in only the educated and wealthy the Syrians in Canada have been here for ages and when things went down, they just hopped a plane and walked into Canada on their Canadian passport.

This is different though, these are going to be refugees and they will be the economic class that could not afford to get out to somewhere decent, have no family from abroad that can help them out.

Canada has also said they will be taking 40% children. If this is the case, and Canada sticks to its policy and is able to muster the manpower to administer this, its not a bad plan.

I am not against immigration, or even refugees (I have Vietnamese, Nicaraguan and Chilean buddies who are from refugee families). But the rules must not be broken due to left wing pressure and potential hurt feelings.

(11-10-2015 07:23 PM)ed pluribus unum Wrote:  

(11-10-2015 06:05 PM)Kdog Wrote:  Seems all the pro pot people who voted in Trudeau forgot about this other bullshit election promise he made.

I know some people who work for Immigration (Federal Gov't), and for them it`s a double bonus - Prime Minister Zoolander is going to keep all their benefits *and* they're giddy with the prospect of all the overtime they'll be making. FFS.

(11-10-2015 01:52 PM)quino_16 Wrote:  The European Union will pay African countries to take back their economic migrants

Quote:European leaders are expected to offer African countries billions of euros in exchange for repatriating migrants that have moved to Europe in search of work, not to escape war. At a migration summit in Valetta, Malta this week the European Commission is expected to announce a 1.8 billion euros ($2 billion) in development funds for African nations that agree to the plan.

The fund is part of a larger list of initiatives to send some thousands of migrants that have entered the EU back to Africa or to keep them from entering the regional bloc at all. Incentives include more educational exchange scholarships, reduced travel restrictions, and more work permits for skilled immigrants. African countries will be asked to strengthen their pre-screening centers and refugees camps as well as re-admit failed asylum seekers, according to a draft of the plan.

It’s not a new strategy. Last month, the EU offered Ankara 3 billion euros in aid, as well as easier visa rules for help controlling the flood of refugees from Syria and elsewhere entering the EU from Turkey.

More than 773,000 migrants seeking asylum or job opportunities have entered the EU this year, a figure that could reach 3 million by 2017, according to EU estimates. Critics of the EU plan say that human rights will suffer as a result of more people are kept in transit camps or detainment centers. Others say that even if African nations agree, they are unlikely to be able to enforce any meaningful limits on migration to Europe.

Je Suis Charlie. Not Charlie Hebdo -- Charlie Sheen. They're not paying refugees to fuck the EU, they're paying them to leave.

Could Americans on this thread kindly refrain from bringing your gun agenda into every argument? It's not very relevant and it's getting old. If the time comes, Europeans will find a way to defend ourselves. We are still a long way from that.

What's more, the British army will not betray its own natives. If you had ever met British servicemen then you would know this. You severely underestimate us if you think we are going to let some 3rd world savages defeat us in warfare. If push comes to shove, the Muslims will be wiped out in a matter of months.

Samseau, you are completely out of touch with the reality on the ground in Europe.

(11-10-2015 10:24 PM)dreambig Wrote:  Could Americans on this thread kindly refrain from bringing your gun agenda into every argument? It's not very relevant and it's getting old. If the time comes, Europeans will find a way to defend ourselves. We are still a long way from that.

What's more, the British army will not betray its own natives. If you had ever met British servicemen then you would know this. You severely underestimate us if you think we are going to let some 3rd world savages defeat us in warfare. If push comes to shove, the Muslims will be wiped out in a matter of months.

So:

(11-10-2015 10:24 PM)dreambig Wrote:  Could Americans on this thread kindly refrain from bringing your gun agenda into every argument? It's not very relevant and it's getting old. If the time comes, Europeans will find a way to defend ourselves. We are still a long way from that.

What's more, the British army will not betray its own natives. If you had ever met British servicemen then you would know this. You severely underestimate us if you think we are going to let some 3rd world savages defeat us in warfare. If push comes to shove, the Muslims will be wiped out in a matter of months.

Samseau, you are completely out of touch with the reality on the ground in Europe.

I disagree, as an European. Gun laws and self-defense are totally relevant to this thread.

"Europeans will find a way to defend ourselves" : pray tell, which way? Fighting bare-handed gangs of brutes, thieves and other desperate migrants?

Little Dark doesn't need guns. But we lesser people do need them.

As to the "diversified" British police (or army), how many of them will side with migrants, their "brothers", "if push comes to shove"?

European governments fuck with us just as much as they want, because we have no guns. Plain and simple.

"more educational exchange scholarships, reduced travel restrictions, and more work permits "

So, European strategy will be: No need to come illegally, we'll let you come legally by every possible way.

Good news for airlines companies. Bad news for European citizens, as usual...

^^ The British army is still 95% native. Look it up.

Guys, don't lose touch with reality. We are still a long way from losing this war.

(11-09-2015 03:01 AM)Wrec Wrote:  Pepper sprays out of stock in Germany.

Demand for pepper sprays has grown by 600%.

Guess why?

Pepper spray demand 600% increase

And Mr. Viktor Orbán brilliant as always.

I have only watched his first few lines, and he is indeed brilliant. Excellent choice of words. He puts the euro-cucks down with aplomb.

(11-09-2015 01:01 PM)Veloce Wrote:  Take special note at how CLEARLY MULTICULTURAL that orchestra is.

There were a couple of spergy Asians in the string section, but otherwise the Berlin Philarmonic needs some diversity ASAP!!!

(11-10-2015 11:05 PM)dreambig Wrote:  ^^ The British army is still 95% native. Look it up.

Guys, don't lose touch with reality. We are still a long way from losing this war.

That is why I also spoke of the British police, and on that, you chose not to respond... so, please tell us: what about British police? still "95% native"? I don't think so... try, 70%...

And, French army went from 99% native down to 60 or 65% native in thirty years... same thing will happen to your army, my British friend...

(11-10-2015 11:01 PM)Going strong Wrote:  

(11-10-2015 10:24 PM)dreambig Wrote:  Could Americans on this thread kindly refrain from bringing your gun agenda into every argument? It's not very relevant and it's getting old. If the time comes, Europeans will find a way to defend ourselves. We are still a long way from that.

What's more, the British army will not betray its own natives. If you had ever met British servicemen then you would know this. You severely underestimate us if you think we are going to let some 3rd world savages defeat us in warfare. If push comes to shove, the Muslims will be wiped out in a matter of months.

Samseau, you are completely out of touch with the reality on the ground in Europe.

I disagree, as an European. Gun laws and self-defense are totally relevant to this thread.

"Europeans will find a way to defend ourselves" : pray tell, which way? Fighting bare-handed gangs of brutes, thieves and other desperate migrants?

Little Dark doesn't need guns. But we lesser people do need them.

As to the "diversified" British police (or army), how many of them will side with migrants, their "brothers", "if push comes to shove"?

European governments fuck with us just as much as they want, because we have no guns. Plain and simple.

English, Scottish and Welsh are not European, nor are Irish.

They live on a separate land mass.

They(we) are forced to be Euro politically. It will end one day.

Dude, at least do some basic research before posting.

Quote:"There were 6,715 Minority Ethnic police officers in the 43 police forces on 31 March 2014. This represents 5.2 per cent of the police officer total, a rise of 0.2 percentage points compared with a year earlier"
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicatio...march-2014

Also, no offence but Britain is not France. We did not capitulate to the Germans or to anyone in the last few centuries of warfare in Europe. For all our weaknesses and stupidities, we know how to fight when backs are against the wall.

(11-10-2015 11:14 PM)dreambig Wrote:  Dude, at least do some basic research before posting.

Quote:"There were 6,715 Minority Ethnic police officers in the 43 police forces on 31 March 2014. This represents 5.2 per cent of the police officer total, a rise of 0.2 percentage points compared with a year earlier"
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicatio...march-2014

Also, no offence but Britain is not France. We did not capitulate to the Germans or to anyone in the last few centuries of warfare in Europe. For all our weaknesses and stupidities, we know how to fight when backs are against the wall.

I do not believe official statistics, I believe my eyes. I went to London, full of "ethnic" policemen and policewomen...

Well, France did not easily capitulate to Germans in any of the world wars. This is a huge, ugly historic mistake.

France won, almost alone, the 1st World War by heroically stopping the Germans in Verdun.

France fought valiantly at the beginning of the 2d world war, losing in fierce battles hundreds of thousands of men (210.000 soldiers losing their lives), more than the Brits did in the 4 following years, and then, France had to cleverly compromise by giving half its territory to Germany, whereas Hitler (who got played) could have gotten all of it...

quote from wiki: "The military participation of the French ground armies, navies and air forces on the Allied side in each theater of World War II (1939–1945) before, during and after the Battle of France, even though it was on various degrees, secured France's acknowledgment as a World War II victor and allowed its evasion from the US-planned AMGOT;"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_...by_country

Other data points to a crushing military defeat, not an easy-way-out capitulation:

May-June 1940, the losses of French army

...nobody could know precisely how many French soldiers died between 10 May and 25 June 1940.

The best you can get about it was an estimation and it varied from one source to another between 92,304 to 129,466 killed and 120,000 to 250,000 wounded. in just 6 weeks

(11-10-2015 11:05 PM)dreambig Wrote:  ^^ The British army is still 95% native. Look it up.

Guys, don't lose touch with reality. We are still a long way from losing this war.

The right to bear arms is relevant but you are right that Americans don't need to remind Europeans about it. However a lot of modern rifle-bearing in the US is symbolic. An armed citizen is barely more defended than an unarmed one against one of Obama's predator drones being controlled by a nerd in the comfort of his air-conditioned Las Vegas 'war room'.

If Europeans had arms, the Open Foundation and other NGO Invasion Guides would have told the invaders which countries and regions of Europe to avoid. I suspect that a lot of our craven curs of leaders would secretly like an angry citizen to pull the trigger to dissuade even more migrants from making the hijrah.

Do you know how the Lee Rigby ritual murder affected the British Army's rank and file? The media obviously downplayed any natural reaction to a public beheading to ensure that the exotic food that multiculturalism sends to their gated communities each evening isn't compromised by controversy.

(11-10-2015 11:24 PM)Going strong Wrote:  

(11-10-2015 11:14 PM)dreambig Wrote:  Dude, at least do some basic research before posting.

Quote:"There were 6,715 Minority Ethnic police officers in the 43 police forces on 31 March 2014. This represents 5.2 per cent of the police officer total, a rise of 0.2 percentage points compared with a year earlier"
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicatio...march-2014

Also, no offence but Britain is not France. We did not capitulate to the Germans or to anyone in the last few centuries of warfare in Europe. For all our weaknesses and stupidities, we know how to fight when backs are against the wall.

I do not believe official statistics, I believe my eyes. I went to London, full of "ethnic" policemen and policewomen...

Well, France did not easily capitulate to Germans in any of the world wars. This is a huge, ugly historic mistake.

France won, almost alone, the 1st World War by heroically stopping the Germans in Verdun.

France fought valiantly at the beginning of the 2d world war, losing in fierce battles hundreds of thousands of men, more than the Brits did in the 4 following years, and then, France had to cleverly compromise by giving half its territory to Germany, whereas Hitler (who got played) could have gotten all of it...

You think that the British government are falsifying easily verifiable statistics? Come on mate, we are on the same side, but it is possible to go too far with the cynicism.

London is not the whole of the UK. The vast majority of policemen are indeed white. Spend some time in the regions. There has been a push for more minorities in policing and the military of course...but as of now, there are very few Muslims indeed.

Truth be told, the Brits still hold some bitterness for the French capitulation to the Nazis. There were no doubt many French patriots who fought and died, but the speed of the French surrender and their collaboration were not forgotten by many Brits. You are included as a token participant in VE Day celebrations despite doing your best to lose your part of the war in record time.

Mais bon, il ne faut pas réveiller le chat qui dort. I for one believe that the French and Brits should put our differences aside. Let's hope that Europeans can be more unified against our latest common enemy.

(11-10-2015 11:05 PM)GUNSAREIRRELEVANT Wrote:  ^^ The British army is still 95% native. Look it up.

Guys, don't lose touch with reality. We are still a long way from losing this war.

Can you describe the racial and ethnic make up of your company to start? I'm just a silly yank who needs to know more about the continent across the pond

(11-10-2015 11:12 PM)Lizard King Wrote:  

(11-10-2015 11:01 PM)Going strong Wrote:  

(11-10-2015 10:24 PM)dreambig Wrote:  Could Americans on this thread kindly refrain from bringing your gun agenda into every argument? It's not very relevant and it's getting old. If the time comes, Europeans will find a way to defend ourselves. We are still a long way from that.

What's more, the British army will not betray its own natives. If you had ever met British servicemen then you would know this. You severely underestimate us if you think we are going to let some 3rd world savages defeat us in warfare. If push comes to shove, the Muslims will be wiped out in a matter of months.

Samseau, you are completely out of touch with the reality on the ground in Europe.

I disagree, as an European. Gun laws and self-defense are totally relevant to this thread.

"Europeans will find a way to defend ourselves" : pray tell, which way? Fighting bare-handed gangs of brutes, thieves and other desperate migrants?

Little Dark doesn't need guns. But we lesser people do need them.

As to the "diversified" British police (or army), how many of them will side with migrants, their "brothers", "if push comes to shove"?

European governments fuck with us just as much as they want, because we have no guns. Plain and simple.

English, Scottish and Welsh are not European, nor are Irish.

They live on a separate land mass.

They(we) are forced to be Euro politically. It will end one day.

How can Anglo-Celts (as the Australians correctly describe themselves and the population of the British Isles) not be European?

You can also be European and be anti-EU. The secret talks by unelected EU functionaries which has made most of Europe a tributary state to the Third World which has achieved very little in recent history must be taken down. Failing that the US and other EU states must secede.

If the UK seceded, then what? Most of its replacement level immigration comes from the highly fertile Indian sub-continent. In other words, the population of a sub-continent is being poured into small islands off the coast of northern Europe.

(11-10-2015 11:36 PM)N°6 Wrote:  The right to bear arms is relevant but you are right that Americans don't need to remind Europeans about it. However a lot of modern rifle-bearing in the US is symbolic. An armed citizen is barely more defended than an unarmed one against one of Obama's predator drones being controlled by a nerd in the comfort of his air-conditioned Las Vegas 'war room'.

I usually find your posts incredibly informative, but this is undoubtedly off and I have first hand knowledge to prove it.

Warfare has not advanced so greatly that an antagonist can subdue a people without having a footing on the ground. Until airborne leviathans that can loom over cities for a month and bombard daily are invented, you'll have to beat armed ground forces with armed ground forces.

Drones have small load capacities and can be shot down my small arms. No air force existing can track an entire division size of forces omnisciently or even target most for that matter. Once guerilla engineers either invent or duplicate surface to air weaponry to tackle each threat, the war is over.

Bottom line;

The conspiracy theorists are right about foreign armies guided by the UN being the real threat on American soil.

Guns are as relevant as ever.

(11-10-2015 11:14 PM)dreambig Wrote:  Dude, at least do some basic research before posting.

Quote:"There were 6,715 Minority Ethnic police officers in the 43 police forces on 31 March 2014. This represents 5.2 per cent of the police officer total, a rise of 0.2 percentage points compared with a year earlier"
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicatio...march-2014

Also, no offence but Britain is not France. We did not capitulate to the Germans or to anyone in the last few centuries of warfare in Europe. For all our weaknesses and stupidities, we know how to fight when backs are against the wall.

Oh, no. The UK version of WW2 (which seems to be the only aspect of history that the British - especially English - people know about) is too much. They can point to the defeat of France, ignoring that the British Army deserted the French but they don't seem to remember the fall of garrisoned Singapore to a much inferior Japanese army. The rule of all European colonial governments in SE Asia died on this day with such an ignominious surrender.

If the UK's final statistics after WW2 is anything to go by, then it is doomed. It is not a coincidence the UK is the first European state to have a native minority in its capital. The British people's real love is not history and tradition but usury, property and capital gains speculation. Immigration is great news for the landlord, the banks needing more hands to put credit cards into and of course the governments which cannot invest in infrastructure without using more people as collateral for future usurious borrowing.

I doubt that even 1% of British people see the significance of Roosevelt's Land Lease Act which mortgaged the British Empire before the US foreclosed it.



The end of the Empire was coded, 1776, and dated a mere six months after the Churchillian 'victory' at Dunkirk.

(11-11-2015 12:01 AM)TonySandos Wrote:  

(11-10-2015 11:36 PM)N°6 Wrote:  The right to bear arms is relevant but you are right that Americans don't need to remind Europeans about it. However a lot of modern rifle-bearing in the US is symbolic. An armed citizen is barely more defended than an unarmed one against one of Obama's predator drones being controlled by a nerd in the comfort of his air-conditioned Las Vegas 'war room'.

I usually find your posts incredibly informative, but this is undoubtedly off and I have first hand knowledge to prove it.

Warfare has not advanced so greatly that an antagonist can subdue a people without having a footing on the ground. Until airborne leviathans that can loom over cities for a month and bombard daily are invented, you'll have to beat armed ground forces with armed ground forces.

Drones have small load capacities and can be shot down my small arms. No air force existing can track an entire division size of forces omnisciently or even target most for that matter. Once guerilla engineers either invent or duplicate surface to air weaponry to tackle each threat, the war is over.

Bottom line;

The conspiracy theorists are right about foreign armies guided by the UN being the real threat on American soil.

Guns are as relevant as ever.

I don't disagree with what you say. I doubt that the UN or NATO would ever use its full martial power against some of the most productive tax paying cash cows in the world even when the Fed is inventing money out of clean air.

If Europeans had rifles, the migration strategy would be very different. However, when I look at Switzerland, where citizens are expected to carry arms and be trained in their use, it also is experiencing replacement level migration with as much passivity as the disarmed nations.

(11-10-2015 11:24 PM)Going strong Wrote:  

(11-10-2015 11:14 PM)dreambig Wrote:  Dude, at least do some basic research before posting.

Quote:"There were 6,715 Minority Ethnic police officers in the 43 police forces on 31 March 2014. This represents 5.2 per cent of the police officer total, a rise of 0.2 percentage points compared with a year earlier"
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicatio...march-2014

Also, no offence but Britain is not France. We did not capitulate to the Germans or to anyone in the last few centuries of warfare in Europe. For all our weaknesses and stupidities, we know how to fight when backs are against the wall.

I do not believe official statistics, I believe my eyes. I went to London, full of "ethnic" policemen and policewomen...

If you're not willing to believe the statistics, why should anyone take your opinion seriously? You're like a conspiracy theorist that shoots down any evidence that conflicts with your view, all without presenting any real evidence of your own. An anecdote from your trip to London doesn't mean anything, especially considering London is by far the most multicultural part of the UK.

There have been massive pushes to make institutions in Britain (including the police) more ethnically diverse. It's in the interests of these institutions to publish numbers that are as high as possible, not to make it seem like there are fewer minorities in the police than there really are. Not everyone in "the establishment" is committed to diversity, multiculturalism and mass immigration -- most people toe the line because they have to.

The British police and army are patriotic and won't turn on their people. A few months ago a British general even threatened a mutiny if Labour (the left wing party) won the next election and attempted to weaken the military: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/pol...09742.html

We're all on the same team and opposed to what's going on in Europe, but people that think there will be a massive civil war within a year or two with tens of millions dead are hopelessly out of touch with reality and delusional.

(11-11-2015 12:33 AM)N°6 Wrote:  If Europeans had rifles, the migration strategy would be very different. However, when I look at Switzerland, where citizens are expected to carry arms and be trained in their use, it also is experiencing replacement level migration with as much passivity as the disarmed nations.

Look at their lack of ammunition. Due to the relationship between weapon carrying by lawful citizens and criminals, the migrants actually have the advantage over the gun-carrying Swiss. The natives follow the rigorous gun laws that only allow unloaded and shouldered possession. The migrants don't respect the native law in the first place. They'd be hard pressed to find ammunition, but more probable to lack apprehension on firing on others. To the migrants, the Swiss are softer targets at acquiring fire power than other EU locales. They'd be hypothetically safer without guns since they won't get off their asses to illegally possess ammunition and rebel against the state powers.

Just found this on Red Ice. Surely not!

Quote:Swedes could become a minority among 16 year-old boys as early as 2016

Doing some simple maths shows us that if nothing is done, Swedes will be a minority among the 16 year-old boys demographic in 2016.



Currently, 30% of this group are non-Swedish.

There is a daily intake of 309 “unaccompanied children” and 91% are boys. 32% (or 90) of those 281 boys a-day are 16 years old.

If it continues for a year, that’s 33,000 16 year-old illegal immigrants – 38% of this group, currently.

38% + 30% = 68%. So that’s 3 out of 5 16-year-old boys who could be non-Swedish by the end of 2016.

http://redicecreations.com/article.php?id=34705