I can't quote the guy Walker who replied to me, im on a phone.

This was in private conversations over Facebook. Three people. Yes most Germans tend towards social democrat. They all reply to me like its a civic duty they are OK with putting up with, like their little gift to the world.

I dont like to see the natural German proclivity for hospitality get abused. They think they have a lot to prove to the world about being inclusive and tolerant. I have to respect their big hearted but naive gesture. Once enough Germans figure themselves swindled its going to be very bad. The culture will probably never be the same.

I don't think so Hades. Once they get a little abused we can expect Germany to quickly start getting their balls again.

Frankly i'm tired of this limp wristed German behavior. Wake up Deutschland!

The altruism and high trust societies that's been associated countries such as the Nordic ones and Germany has been quite the double-edged sword. On the one hand, it's what allowed them to build the prosperous civilizations they live in. On the other, it's also what leaves to vulnerable to being exploited the way they are right now.

Progressives in the United States love to always point out how Europe is so much more civilized then United States especially with all their social services and welfare benefits while suggesting that America by adopting a similar model would reap the same benefits. Something they fail to account for is that these systems only work when everyone plays by the rules and return tit for tat. In societies where everyone trusts each other we can expect the majority of people to do so. Now these countries are getting people who come from environments where everyone always has to watch their own backs and have no qualms about taking everything while giving nothing back. I wonder how long all the free goodies will keep coming.

Why do progressives and Europeans have such a blind spot to this? It's because to admit that would be to admit that not all cultures are the same which would contradict the prevailing dogma of our times: that all cultures are equal and that the only differences is that some people like kebabs and some people like croissants.

And now finally Sweden admits that Sweden is full and they can not longer guarantee shelter for immigrants.

Winter is starting, and the government is panicking when they are finally realizing what's happening.

2016 is going to be rough.

(11-06-2015 04:41 AM)Chaos Wrote:  And now finally Sweden admits that Sweden is full and they can not longer guarantee shelter for immigrants.

Winter is starting, and the government is panicking when they are finally realizing what's happening.

2016 is going to be rough.

On the other hand one guy claimed publicly that if Swedes were forced to rent out all free spaces they have - unused appartments, houses and tourist facilites - then there would be 2 million spaces "created" that way.

It seems to me that they calculated the 8 guest rooms in large affluent houses to achieve that miracle.

People mix up justice with equality a lot these days. Not to mention that the retirement system is already under pressure with more older then younger people. And now all those people that will need social welfare as well.
The mood is changing, you almost don't hear super optimistic voices any more. Of course no extreme voices are there, at least just a few. The mood is kind of sceptical positive.

(11-06-2015 05:18 AM)Parzival Wrote:  People mix up justice with equality a lot these days. Not to mention that the retirement system is already under pressure with more older then younger people. And now all those people that will need social welfare as well.
The mood is changing, you almost don't hear super optimistic voices any more. Of course no extreme voices are there, at least just a few. The mood is kind of sceptical positive.

This is what mainstream media is trying to gloss over or pretend won't happen, which any coherent analysis of these people shows that the vast majority will be on welfare, with a high percentage of them remaining on welfare for decades, draining the middle classes dry.
(And this is without mentioning the con job of massively underreporting how many millions are coming, until now)
Take this article for instance.
The only way this isn't a piece of insidious propaganda is if the 'modest boost' to economies they're talking about, is restricted to the soulsucking "refugee industry" of which Zelcorpion outlined a few pages back.
While this refugee industry benefits, the other 90%+ of society pays for it through significantly increased taxes, more crime, more delinquent behaviour, more rape, overwhelming already stretched health services in some countries, less social trust generally and worse educational outcomes for kids as the educational system tries to adapt to the migrants' needs (rather than vice versa)
http://www.politico.eu/article/migrant-c...7-finance/

A very good article (and blog) made me think: ( I was having the same thoughts on this to be honest)

link: http://www.thisblogisdangerous.com/the-s...-not-want/

Quote:Rome then and Europe today

A society of shrieking single mothers and wayward, dissolute men is not a society at all. If a nation cannot do the basic job of reproducing itself while in the presence of a highly fertile and fiercely patriarchal alien culture then it doesn’t deserve to exist, and in time it won’t. If a nation does not produce the men who are willing and able to take ownership of their nation then it will find itself unable to stand against the march of men who will.

Radical Islam is not the problem. It’s a problem, but it’s not the problem. It is not even a symptom of the problem. Radical Islam has appeared and prospered in the West as a natural reaction to our declining society, and our failure to address and correct the problems. Islam is merely one possible solution, albeit a solution we would prefer not to happen. A healthy society should not fear barbarians at its gates.

The sack of Rome by the Goths and then the Vandals was the result of a dying and defective society. Rome was riddled with problems of its own making which it wasn’t willing to solve. The Roman Empire did not so much fall as it was instead fixed. It was not the barbarians who were the problem, but the Romans themselves. The barbarians were the solution.

This would not have been much comfort to those Romans who were killed or enslaved, but with hindsight we can see that if Rome were to survive then it would have needed to have fixed itself long before the barbarians laid siege to Rome. By then it was too late. The solution had been provided for them, although it wasn’t the solution they wanted.

Reading Edward Gibbon’s History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire makes one realise just how deep the parallels run between the last days of Rome and Western civilisation today. In the fall of Rome we have our warning from history. Today, Islam is the solution we do not want.

Things have reached the maximum temperature in Croatia:

(11-04-2015 10:37 PM)greekgod Wrote:  ...

The data is 2 years old but its worth noting the standing reserves as well. No European country has even .5% population active or reserve military combined. That is some scary shit.

...

Out of principle, I have to disagree and say that Funland actually has that amount of reserve personnel by quite a large margin.

But that's neither here or there. Today a dude was caught in front of migrant housing with a submachine gun and a handgun. At least two molotov attacks have also been committed against housing of the migrants. Shit's getting wacky, yo.

Recently, a german news channel asked a professional survey institute what Germans think about "refugees" after having personal contact with them instead of just watching them on TV for example.

They found out that people view "refugees" as a BIGGER threat afterwards.

I guess another myth surrounding "refugees" bites the dust then. According to public TV and our political elite direct contact will soften bias and "misinformation" but it seems it's just another lie.

Here the german video:

A conservative is a liberal mugged by reality.

   

(11-05-2015 06:10 AM)achromaticmike Wrote:  

(11-05-2015 06:00 AM)Ollave Wrote:  

(11-05-2015 02:07 AM)Roosh Wrote:  7 day ban for Blick. You can disagree, but no personal attacks.

Can we get a clarification on this on this Roosh?

Blicks reply was pretty heated, it's an emotional topic. But after scanning it the closest thing I could see that directly attacks Samseau is this:

(11-05-2015 01:49 AM)Blick Mang Wrote:  You have absolutely zero fucking clue what you're talking about.

The punishment seems a little excessive for the crime.

Blick's contribution to this thread has been pretty substantial. If he is getting 7 days for this, I'm wondering what's left if he were to open up on Samseau with 4 letter expletives.

Unless of course, this is a culmination of previous transgressions.

His contribution has been minor at best; he's derided everyone else's opinion while attempting to claim authority based on a picture showing that he lives near the refugees.

I've been beat up and had a Rolex stolen by them. I've seen their numbers multiple tenfold seemingly overnight. ....and I've been working in the part of the Middle East these people are coming from for 7 years.

If he's living right next to the refugees; he's obviously giving the view from peasantville on the outskirts of town where the poorest Europeans already lived.

The major change is how these people are ruining the town centers -- not the outskirts. If you would have told me five years ago that I'd get beat up after bar close and have my Rolex stolen near the center of Munich I would have laughed at you.

Samseau's posts are a bit "doomsday-esque" and I believe Europe will check the migration before it reaches that point; but Blick Man's posts were head totally in the sand and contributing nothing. A plane ticket to go see for yourself isn't really that expensive. If you're scared of the plane ticket price; than just ask yourself what you'd expect happens when mass groups of people from an anti-Western warzone known for Islamic extremism move into Europe virtually unchecked/unscreened...It shouldn't be that hard to guess.

I forgot to ask Mike, but when you got robbed did you go the police afterwards? What response did you get?

In theory, in the center of a major center like Munich, there should have been video cameras installed on the street and suspects and arrests should have been made.

In practice, my guess is you did nothing because you realized it would be futile or you did go to the police and they told you they couldn't do anything.

Do tell please.

(11-06-2015 02:21 PM)Samseau Wrote:  I forgot to ask Mike, but when you got robbed did you go the police afterwards? What response did you get?

In theory, in the center of a major center like Munich, there should have been video cameras installed on the street and suspects and arrests should have been made.

In practice, my guess is you did nothing because you realized it would be futile or you did go to the police and they told you they couldn't do anything.

Do tell please.

I went to the police because I needed a police report so I could provide the watch serial number to Rolex -- not because I thought they'd recover the watch somehow. Who knows; maybe 10 years from now someone will send it in for service and I'll get it back. I don't know what the police have done exactly but they haven't contacted me since. They definitely took the report and asked a lot of questions.

This is a hard watch, balls on that old dude really but I couldn't get through it all.

Sorry for double post but this warrants its own post, Germany is now closing its borders apparently:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/no..._b-gdnnews

Oh shit.

In other news Syrians now allowed to join the German Army WTTTFFF:

http://www.zeit.de/politik/deutschland/2...an-brigade

That can't be real lol.

I'll treat this with some cautious optimism.

You still need to stop the boats from coming and engage in a mass deportation, not a cuck deportation like seen previously where any asshole can simply say "I am an unwilling occupant" and the plane doesn't take off.

If it all goes through, Merkel probably knew that she would not survive given her own government started to turn against her.

We'll see. We'll see. The biggest danger is actually getting complacent again. The invasion paradoxically has been the best thing to ever happen because it makes more people see the truth than ever. Committed Europhiles in many cases now want the EU gone.

This thread is one of the most depressing things I've ever read on this forum.

Hopefully the above news means that common sense will eventually prevail.

If nothing else, This thread shows how left-leaning ideologies fundamentally misunderstand human nature.

Merkel is actually responsible for a lot of those drowning in the Agean by encouraging people to make the hazardous journey. And she gets a Nobel Peace Prize for it.

She did not win the Nobel Peace Prize.

I've read about that piece in the Guardian and they say it's not exactly the case and there was some sort of mistake.

Someone translated this from German:

Quote:For what it's worth, here is a sketchily translated piece from Der Speigel on the confusing announcements. Regardless of what the real truth is, I recommend it's last two paragraphs:

"Just one year residence and no family reunification - which should apply to Syrian refugees, Thomas de Maizière declared. In the Chancellery apparently nobody knew about it. Shortly thereafter, the Home Office withdraws the notice.

Syrian civil war refugees should lose the right to bring their families to Germany. Moreover, they should only receive a residence permit for one year instead of three years - which had CDU Interior Minister Thomas de Maizière announced on Friday.

Shortly after the correction comes from the Ministry of the Interior: The decisions of the Federal Office for Migration and Refugees (BAMF) has not changed. "All changes are discussed above in the coalition."

The Germany radio had De Maizière said: "Other countries give in such situations even a security for a stay for a limited time and that we will do in the future with the Syrians also, by saying them. You will receive protection, but the so-called subsidiary protection - that is limited in time and without family unification ".

Previously receive refugees from Syria almost always primary protection.

Subsidiary protection - this is a state that only applies to people who are not recognized under the Geneva Convention or the asylum-fundamental rights, but are allowed to stay in Germany - because they can establish that they are threatened with serious harm in their home countries. This was previously only to a small circle of refugees, this year to about 1,400 people.

Refugees from Syria received so far in almost all cases, so-called primary protection - mostly a legal status as a refugee according to the Asylum Procedures Act and thus the right to stay for three years and to family reunification.

In August a total of 55,600 asylum applications were decided by Syrian citizens, the "FAZ", citing information provided by the Federal Office for Migration and Refugees (BAMF) had reported. 38 650 thus received a legal status as a refugee, only 53 to niedrigrangigeren subsidiary protection.

Surprise at the Chancellery

As reported by the Ministry of the Interior came to want to change the existing rules for Syrian asylum seekers - representing a significant change to the current German refugee policy would have meant - can probably only explain the interior minister himself, his tightest environment and its spokesman. Until that happens, can only be speculating about the genesis.

To hear any case that the announcement by the Interior Ministry, which first of all the "Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung" had reported (FAZ), made ​​in the federal government for a big surprise. Thus we read of the SPD circles of the coalition, this was discussed with anyone - not even with the Chancellor's Office. There they reportedly occurred after surprised by de Maizière's announcement.

During the evening was then apparently phoned in the federal government eagerly back and forth, but a direct contact with the Home Secretary failed initially apparently because this was still on the flight from Albania. After landing succeeded then, de Maizière take to correct the notice.


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As the Home Secretary had earlier confirmed this and explained in Tirana over the "Radio Germany" itself, it seems impossible that the advance was a mistake. It is conceivable, then actually only that the Home Secretary acted arbitrarily - although this would mean a breach of faith with Prime Minister Angela Merkel and her chancellery chief Peter Altmaier, the refugee coordinator of the coalition.

Or, as another possible explanation, the interior minister was sent from the Union to launch a kind of test balloon and await the reaction of the SPD. Speaking against that de Maizière is not the type allow such shenanigans - any more than the Chancellor.

Even if one may dismiss the process as a farce - that the situation is far too serious. And parts of the population are already confused what is exacerbated by such a zigzag communication. "

What I'm gathering is that nothing has changed, but these changes have been proposed, and Merkel is beginning to lose support from her own government.

Let us pray that there's a coup. Even in the best case she needs to go.

What I gathered is that this De Maizére has retracted the statement afterwards, so yes indeed nothing seems to have changed in practice. But if it did change, this would be an acceptable way to do it.

(11-06-2015 05:39 PM)NewMeta Wrote:  



This is a hard watch, balls on that old dude really but I couldn't get through it all.

That was an unpleasant watch.

This is why I think good anytime I hear one of these migrant boats sinking and all the people on board dying.

Maybe all of this is exactly what the high-level "eskimos" want, but man fuck those guys.

Do you think certain countries will take advantage of the coming winter to secure borders and implement stricter control points? This seems like the perfect opportunity to get ahead of the massive influx before the next round in summer 2016; they were unprepared in 2015.. but now they have no excuse not to take action. I can't see Germany or other western countries doing much, but I think for those in the East it would be mandatory.

Winter will be the biggest advantage to gaining control over the whole situation.