Playing 3+ chics at a time...awesome and bad...no guarantees, but great sex

(10-16-2015 01:51 PM)MrXY Wrote:  I've been talking to a girl online for a few days and after some exchanges she informed me she's in a wheelchair. This was not apparent from her pics; there are a couple of pics of her sitting down but you can't tell it's a wheelchair she's sitting in.

I'm not sure where to go with this. She's cute and seems fit; she has legs and they don't look atrophied or deformed. Should I try to bang? I would feel bad about doing a smash and dash on a disabled woman, but would I actually want to date a woman who can't walk? Can she have sex? How would I even bring up the issue? Maybe she just craves some dick and doesn't even care about a relationship. How would I position her for sex? I guess she would know...

Does anyone know anything about this situation?

I think we may have matched with the same chick....or could just be a similar situation lol.

I've become the makeout king. I'll go to a party (I'm still in college), make out with a girl, but not actually get her in bed.

Any advice?

(10-18-2015 02:50 AM)Truth Teller Wrote:  I've become the makeout king. I'll go to a party (I'm still in college), make out with a girl, but not actually get her in bed.

Any advice?

This happened to me for years, and I think I'm starting to get better at converting:
Firstly some quick troubleshoots:
- Does your breath smell good? I was in the habit of eating a subway with onions before going out, and not brushing my teeth afterwards. (Bad breath could be putting girls off).
- Don't necessarily go for the makeup immediately, let the tension build up.
- Be dominant when making out- lift her up, kiss her neck etc.

Those are the main ones that have helped me. Also don't lose the initiative- lead her around etc.

(10-18-2015 05:42 AM)Cyr Wrote:  

(10-18-2015 02:50 AM)Truth Teller Wrote:  I've become the makeout king. I'll go to a party (I'm still in college), make out with a girl, but not actually get her in bed.

Any advice?

This happened to me for years, and I think I'm starting to get better at converting:
Firstly some quick troubleshoots:
- Does your breath smell good? I was in the habit of eating a subway with onions before going out, and not brushing my teeth afterwards. (Bad breath could be putting girls off).
- Don't necessarily go for the makeup immediately, let the tension build up.
- Be dominant when making out- lift her up, kiss her neck etc.

Those are the main ones that have helped me. Also don't lose the initiative- lead her around etc.

Timing is everything. And with making out - you have to show your intent. Make out for a few seconds...then pull her away and go do something else. Go get a drink...play a drinking game...talk to other friends..."go on an adventure."

When you go on a date, you should have a gameplan (or gameset) about where you plan to go, where you will kiss her, when you pull her back to your apartment, and what bait you have at your disposal.

Going for SNL is no different. Yes - there are more variables. You could bang her at the party...at her place...whatever. But you should still have a gameplan.

This is exponentially important when you are in a "short clock" city where bars close at 2 AM. You need to have a plan of where to go and what to do.

"If you fail to plan, you plan to fail."

When I go clothes shopping if there is a sexy girl working, I always grab a shirt or pants that I know that are going to fit too tight and try it on. Then I ask the sexy worker if it looks good mainly just go break the ice and let her get a peak at the muscles. My favorite is with tank tops so they can get a peak of the guns and chest. If she responds well I game on from there.

Does anyone else do this or just me?

(10-18-2015 04:06 PM)realologist Wrote:  When I go clothes shopping if there is a sexy girl working, I always grab a shirt or pants that I know that are going to fit too tight and try it on. Then I ask the sexy worker if it looks good mainly just go break the ice and let her get a peak at the muscles. My favorite is with tank tops so they can get a peak of the guns and chest. If she responds well I game on from there.

Does anyone else do this or just me?

^ Probably just you, if you hadn't been on the forum for a while I suspect people would think that's a borderline troll post.

Not trying to be too negative, just real, it comes off a bit try hard and time intensive.


And in the interest of going beyond criticism, and more problem solving, I would argue that it's best to be congruent and then expand on opportunities.

For example, ask yourself why you're going clothes shopping? New items, a combo for a certain outfit, a vacation to a different climate, etc.

Now, introduce those threads into a conversation with the girl you're interested in while she assists you.

You will probably feel more confident as well compared to playing as "The Beach Is That Way" guy hoping for validation.

^^^

I understand what you are saying but I don't do it in a serious manner. It fits my style in saying I'll put on something that's so obvious that it doesn't fit the goal is to make the girl laugh. It's even more obvious compared to what I wear in the store.

Soooo my gf just sprung the whole "strange unknown number who messages you out of the blue and says you're hot so let's meet! with no profile picture on whatsapp" shit test on me. I knew to 90% that it's her from the first message because which girl ever says you're hot out of the blue, that's some movie level messaging. I played it cool, just trying to establish her identity in case it is a real person and not a shit test, but didn't intend to do anything in my mind. After like 5 messages I tell her I have a gf, bad timing but thx for asking.

Of course gf reveals herself which was no surprise and thinks she "caught" me and tries to give me the whole "I'm disappointed" roundabout. In a woman's mind she has always "caught" you if your first message isn't an immidiate "FUCK YOU NO I HAVE A GF YOU'RE AN UGLY HAG WHO I DON'T KNOW DON'T EVEN MESSAGE ME". Can't even show her how wrong she is but oh well

Cracka next that girl fast, she sounds like nothing but trouble, or slowly get out of there. Sounds like she wants a "I caught you ! So I'm going to break up with you and/or fuck a guy" pass.

Any chick that fakes a account to "catch" you isn't worth being with in my book.


Sad times:

A truly alpha way above average buddy of mine just got burned bad.

When I met him he was single, women LOVED him, I looked up to him. He almost had this Daniel Craig James Bond look to him. He had a player mentality.

I'm pretty sure before he broke up with his LTR and was having fun.

Turns out he ended up tying her down again, began working out of state, then found out he had a kid on the way, his kid is a few years old now.

Guy still works out of state for periods of time - no surprise to find out his lady fucked a married man that was an old friend of his.

Sad times for him, he still has praise for the mother, a friend of hers of course didn't like it when I dropped some hard truths about women these days.

Even the most definitive players can get burned on a whim, hopefully him and his son come out unscathed.

Attended a cousin's wedding this past weekend and got to see one of my game (indirect) mentor's up close and personal- my older brother

Pretty sure he doesn't know the indirect effect he has had on tailoring my own game over the years but here is a guy who has pretty much defied many of the game truths that we kick around here

Example: He has only held down a job for short periods of time over the years - he usually can scrounge up enough cash to hit the casino a few times a week. Probably shaking loose a girl's pocket.

He goes long periods without a vehicle, but of course he has a soft harem for all that.

Dude doesn't even have his place of his own but probably gets laid more regularly than some of these guys out here sponsoring random chicks.

The point I'm driving at is he does more with less than any other player I know, which showed me early that keeping a girl around isn't all about having the perfect setup but more about how you make her feel in the rawest sense.

True enough, most of his shortcomings in life have been self-inflicted but he does a great job of selling who he is without pretenses. He doesn't have much, but what he does have is an innate ability to connect with a chick and bring her into his sphere of influence. Even if a guy isn't her financial equal, because he owns who he is and still possesses a manly pride about himself-she will still stick around to see the end of the movie. It's just funny to watch how he brings out the nurturing gene in these women.

The whole weekend was just a reminder that while I'm out here looking to steadily improved my odds through fitness, lifestyle and the acquisition of money - there is still something raw and organic to attracting women

Took me back to the essence

(10-20-2015 03:46 PM)kaotic Wrote:  Cracka next that girl fast, she sounds like nothing but trouble, or slowly get out of there. Sounds like she wants a "I caught you ! So I'm going to break up with you and/or fuck a guy" pass.

Any chick that fakes a account to "catch" you isn't worth being with in my book.

That's the funny thing though, been going steady for 6 months now and no red flags at all, cooks foods, cleans my place, sex at the ready it's. I'm not going on a "she's special!" tangent here, just surprised. But then again, she has been on her period a couple days and gets really emotional every time. Gonna have a talk with her and give her the ultimatum of "Look, I'm not forcing you to stay with me, so if you don't trust me or don't want to, I'm not holding you, there's the door, feel free to walk away if that's what you want". We'll see how it goes

(10-20-2015 04:28 PM)NO_LIMIT_CRACKA Wrote:  

(10-20-2015 03:46 PM)kaotic Wrote:  Cracka next that girl fast, she sounds like nothing but trouble, or slowly get out of there. Sounds like she wants a "I caught you ! So I'm going to break up with you and/or fuck a guy" pass.

Any chick that fakes a account to "catch" you isn't worth being with in my book.

That's the funny thing though, been going steady for 6 months now and no red flags at all, cooks foods, cleans my place, sex at the ready it's. I'm not going on a "she's special!" tangent here, just surprised. But then again, she has been on her period a couple days and gets really emotional every time. Gonna have a talk with her and give her the ultimatum of "Look, I'm not forcing you to stay with me, so if you don't trust me or don't want to, I'm not holding you, there's the door, feel free to walk away if that's what you want". We'll see how it goes

Don't frame it as an ultimatum, just tell her if she has issues then leave. If not, then she needs to knock that shit off. But girls that play head games aren't worth while in my opinion.

(10-20-2015 04:35 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

(10-20-2015 04:28 PM)NO_LIMIT_CRACKA Wrote:  

(10-20-2015 03:46 PM)kaotic Wrote:  Cracka next that girl fast, she sounds like nothing but trouble, or slowly get out of there. Sounds like she wants a "I caught you ! So I'm going to break up with you and/or fuck a guy" pass.

Any chick that fakes a account to "catch" you isn't worth being with in my book.

That's the funny thing though, been going steady for 6 months now and no red flags at all, cooks foods, cleans my place, sex at the ready it's. I'm not going on a "she's special!" tangent here, just surprised. But then again, she has been on her period a couple days and gets really emotional every time. Gonna have a talk with her and give her the ultimatum of "Look, I'm not forcing you to stay with me, so if you don't trust me or don't want to, I'm not holding you, there's the door, feel free to walk away if that's what you want". We'll see how it goes

Don't frame it as an ultimatum, just tell her if she has issues then leave. If not, then she needs to knock that shit off. But girls that play head games aren't worth while in my opinion.

Well an ultimatum usually includes and "either this or that" demand. This is more of a "Yo, you can leave if you really want. So, what are you gonna do?" question. It still forces a decision, but obviously the path of least resistance for that decision is to stay and submit to the changes to knock it off. But I get what you're saying

Had my brothers bucks party on the weekend and finished the night at the strippers as you do.
I usually avoid the strippers as you just end up spending a lot of money with nothing to show for it but it was my brothers bucks party so i made an exception.

Anyway, I'm standing there with the group watching the stage as a bunch of the girls parade around on it when I realise that one of them looks familiar. I'm trying to place her, look at her a bit longer and then it twigs, I think she's a girl I went to school with, a year or two below me. I pull out my phone and have a look on Facebook and Instagram and BOOM, there she is. I point her out to my brother and he doesn't remember her but agrees that it's definitely the girl I have on Facebook and Instagram.

One of the other blokes comes back from having a lap dance so I ask the girl he was with if there is a girl working tonight called B (girls full real name). Surprisingly and unprofessionally (no stripper code of silence?) the girl tells me yes there is but she goes by Alexia

Having confirmed that it was one and the same girl I was determined to get a lap dance off this girl before I left to see if she remembered me.
So a bit later I see said girl walking by so I call her over and introduce her to the crew I was with. They all know what the deal is and a couple also went to school with her so they're all keen to see what happens. However she plays dumb (or doesn't actually recognise us) and does the usual stripper routine of being faux friendly.

We go for a private dance and just after she gets her tits out she goes to me "You know who I am don't you?" and I go "Yes I do B". Her hamster then goes into overdrive and she starts freaking out and justifying herself telling me how her parents don't know and she's studying her masters and she's bought a house etc etc. The usual stripper justifications.
Then she starts asking me how I'm doing and saying let's catch up in normal circumstances blah blah, gives me her number which incidentally I actually already had from school days.
She then goes to leave and I say "hang on a sec, I'm not pay that kind of money for a catch up, either finish the dance or give me my money back." She ended up giving my money back as she said she couldn't go through with the dance which I thought was unprofessional.

So there you go, a girl from my little country high school became a stripper.

I haven't decided yet if I'm going to bother contacting her or not. On the one hand I could get the stripper notch but on the other hand I'm not sure if I want it.

Lotta good shit in this NY Mag article about campus sex

http://nymag.com/thecut/2015/10/why-cons...e-bad.html

I just don't know how to break out the good parts of it, without the peanut gallery turning it into a typical Red Pill Bitch fest.

WIA

(10-21-2015 07:46 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  Lotta good shit in this NY Mag article about campus sex

http://nymag.com/thecut/2015/10/why-cons...e-bad.html

I just don't know how to break out the good parts of it, without the peanut gallery turning it into a typical Red Pill Bitch fest.

WIA

Quote:“I have so much to drink my memory becomes dark water, brief flashes when I flicker up for air,” Gattuso wrote. “I’m being kissed. There’s a boy, then another boy. I keep asking if I’m pretty. I keep saying yes.” But in the morning, she wrote, “I feel weird about what went down” and was unsure how to express her feelings of dissatisfaction and confusion over “such a fucked-up experience.”

Translation: she got gangbanged and loved it. Then the next day, she regretted it... and writes an article with hamster diarrhea all over it.

(10-21-2015 07:52 AM)CleanSlate Wrote:  

(10-21-2015 07:46 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  Lotta good shit in this NY Mag article about campus sex

http://nymag.com/thecut/2015/10/why-cons...e-bad.html

I just don't know how to break out the good parts of it, without the peanut gallery turning it into a typical Red Pill Bitch fest.

WIA

Quote:“I have so much to drink my memory becomes dark water, brief flashes when I flicker up for air,” Gattuso wrote. “I’m being kissed. There’s a boy, then another boy. I keep asking if I’m pretty. I keep saying yes.” But in the morning, she wrote, “I feel weird about what went down” and was unsure how to express her feelings of dissatisfaction and confusion over “such a fucked-up experience.”

Translation: she got gangbanged and loved it. Then the next day, she regretted it... and writes an article with hamster diarrhea all over it.

^This is exactly what I'm talking about.

There's a "meta" story in the article, about how that Harvard chick thinks as well as the author, as well as all the chicks cited in the article.

They all basically show a flexibility in thought, a willingness to deal with the grey, that Black and White RVF doesn't have.

From the right level of abstraction, the actions of a player look a look a lot like the actions of a hot girl. Mirror Images, two sides of a different coin perhaps? By that "logic", what else can be adapted?

Can guys come at the game with a volume knob instead of a light switch?

I just don't think it's possible. The Red Pill mind just thinks in nails and just hammers everything the same way.

WIA

(10-21-2015 07:46 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  Lotta good shit in this NY Mag article about campus sex

http://nymag.com/thecut/2015/10/why-cons...e-bad.html

I just don't know how to break out the good parts of it, without the peanut gallery turning it into a typical Red Pill Bitch fest.

WIA

Part of what I extracted from this article was the writer realizing that feminism in it's fully realized state, isn't what she/they expected. Instead being liberating, it's constrictive and short-sighted.

One of the hallmarks of feminism is to achieve equal footing with men in matters of sexuality. However, with that comes a great responsibility which is one of the things that "girl power" goes to great lengths to avoid.

ie 'I want to hoe around and make questionable decision - but not be seen as a hoe'

Women haven't fully figured out all the repercussions of this ideology, but for now they will just enforce all the desirable parts and leave the unpleasant ones for another day.

(10-21-2015 07:46 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  Lotta good shit in this NY Mag article about campus sex

http://nymag.com/thecut/2015/10/why-cons...e-bad.html

I just don't know how to break out the good parts of it, without the peanut gallery turning it into a typical Red Pill Bitch fest.

WIA

I don't really get what this chick is after, besides trying to stir up more resentment towards masculine sexuality. She seems to be asserting that women are entitled to some sort of prolonged euphoria and profound fulfillment following every sexual encounter. She must be reading too many romance novels or something. This is not a reality for anyone, male or female.

We have memorable sublime sexual experiences and disappointing ones. Sometimes you wake up with a hangover, the whole world looks a bit gray. So you project this transitory dejection on to the previous night's encounter with the implication that there was something immoral about the fact that he didn't lick your pussy for half an hour?

I get it, guys fuck girls without giving two shits about them, and this hurts their feelings. I am genuinely sympathetic to this fact. I've been guilty of this too and honestly it leaves me feeling pretty shitty/guilty after the fact.

Thing is, deep down these girls know there isn't anything else there. They lie to themselves because they want to get caught up in the fantasy or whatever. Be honest with yourself and take accountability for your actions.

.... or maybe we should all just stop fucking.

edit:

very interested to know which parts are the good parts that you are talking about

WIA,

Alright you got my attention. So I re-read the article. I had scanned it the first time, but I read it closely this time.

1. My goodness, that's horrible writing. She's all over the map. Trying to wade through her rambling and position shifts gave me a headache.

2. Her underlying assumption throughout the entire article is that we are still under a male dominated patriarchy, which creates a big crack through the foundation of her article.

3. She does not realize that we cannot expect every sexual experience to be a toe-curling, brain-scrambling, mad passionate multiple orgasmic tryst. There is good sex, bad sex, mediocre sex, mechanical sex, animalistic sex, funny ticklish sex, role playing sex, marathon sex, quick sex, and the list goes on... yada yada yada. Sexual partners may or may not be compatible, and there's really only one way to find out. Expecting a fantastic sexual experience every time we have sex is only doing ourselves a disservice.

4. She still does not point to the big elephant in the room. Hypergamy. She complains that no sexually desirable guy exclaims "this is unacceptable, there needs to be sex where you always get off!" The fly in the ointment is that the "Sandbergian bad boys", whom the Lean In author advises girls to NOT marry, don't give a rats ass whether she gets off or not. They just pry her legs apart and have their way with her. If she gets off, great! If not, the guy doesn't care. Now, when she finally meets a beta she wants to lock down, the beta is going to lick her pussy for hours to get her off. But since she doesn't get the tingles from this guy to begin with, she's disappointed.

All I see from this article is a deeply entitled WNB academia feminist who wants to further the feminist agenda by sounding intelligent, broadening her positions to bring more people on board, and have her cake and eat it too.

A little bit of a frustrating Tuesday evening

This girl whose engaged texts me ever so often very late nights (she's on blow) of course I'll respond later that day.

She wanted to meet up after work last afternoon - I skip the gym, drive home, I had a feeling she'd flake so I hit up other options.

Of course she sends me a text flaking, I call her about it, I calmly and jokingly attempt to convince her.

It's a no go, at this point i'm irritated. I call the Armenian girl and she missed me but she has midterms, I teasingly convince her. She decides to study instead.

She send me a bondage text saying that this was what was on her mind earlier and she wouldn't get any studying done being around me.

I've noticed that calling a girl and putting her on the spot can quickly filter if she's dtf that day or not and you can move on quickly. Fuck texting.

At this point I said fuck it - 2 blown potential new bangs - I'm going to the gym.

I lift, and let the shorty Eva Green looking plate I'm picking her up.

Eat, shower, pick her up, I bang her once fast and hard, the second round was a fucking marathon. Her leg wouldn't stop twitching on the drive home.

At least I got some play, but the game gods were against me last night.

Weights over plates.

Just told some 22 year old bimbo to GTFO of my apartment.

It was our second date. The first one I got her back here and a decent make out though LMR. Tonight, we had drinks at the pool but her friends were sending incessant cock blocking texts. She told me she was meeting them at a strip club later tonight ( not good when a date plans to see her friends later that night cause that's a pre emptive cock block usually)

We got down to my apartment to do a second drink and sat on the couch. Her phone was blowing up and she was eagerly returning texts. I explained that her friends knew she was with a guy and how women will cock block other women. I used a dance club analogy when girls will cock block a guy talking to one of their girl friends. She laughed and said it's true.

Then, she kept on with the texts and paying more attention to her phone. I said "Honestly Alexis either put that down or get out of here...that's ridiculous"

She said "I'm sorry, I have to go. She scampered off and before walking out said "sorry bye" and I could see her looking at me from my peripheral vision ."

I said not a single word and was looking dead ahead at the TV as I was channel surfing the different espn channels, half sitting half laying on my couch, one of my legs propped up on the coffee table.

On a brighter note, I've got dates planned tomorrow, Friday and Saturday nights. The tomorrow date and Saturday date are with girls where the first dates went quite well and post date texting has been lively.

Having all these others lined up the next few nights helped me kick this one out of my place tonight zero fucks given.

I wouldn't put up with that shit, I've jetted on girls before.

I think it has to do with setting the frame right - I always drop a story about how I left a date in 15 minutes flat cause the bitch was on their phone.

Then I joke that they're lucky if they last that long (look at my watch) with a big smirk - does 2 things: Makes the validate themselves to you, keeps them off their phones.


I haven't dealt with a girl on a date who had her phone out in a long time. I think it also has to do with them being into your stories and letting them do a lot of the talking.

You did the right things telling her to get out, granted she'll learn the lesson for a second, hopefully you've got SMV where she'll hit you up apologizing.

If not, you saved time by not using it on this bitch.