In order to move forward and not be impinged by the word Nazi, we must confront European history during the 20th Century. How can we be expected to stand up and assert our vision of the future if we are constantly cowering and apologizing and lack the spiritual and moral base to do so?
I can assure you the truth of what I found was NOT what was taught to me in school in America.
Since we live in a system dominated by 2nd generation Marxism in the west, Cultural Marxism, I think it is imperative that we understand the hidden force behind Marxism and the Russian Revolution. It is only by understanding that, that we can understand the movement to save Europe (National Socialism) from the malevolent force of Communism that sought world domination. It is important to recognize that National Socialism did not have the ambition to rule the world, as we are so commonly told, where as Jewish Communism did and now Jewish Capitalism does in the form of globalism and Zionism.
The following videos will help enlighten you as to the true nature of communism.
Winston Churchill exposes forces behind Communism
Vladimir Putin on jews in Soviet Union government
Under the Sign of the Scorpion - Jewish Communists
Jura Lina - The Jewish Hand in Bolshevism/Communism Not Mentioned at School (Full Movie)
The Peace Ship was the common name for the ocean liner Oscar II, on which American industrialist Henry Ford organized and launched his 1915 amateur peace mission to Europe; Ford chartered the Oscar II and invited prominent peace activists to join him. He hoped to create enough publicity to prompt the belligerent nations to convene a peace conference and mediate an end to World War I, but the mission was widely mocked by the press, which referred to the Oscar II as the “Ship of Fools” as well as the “Peace Ship”. Infighting between the activists, mockery by the press contingent aboard, and an outbreak of influenza marred the voyage. Four days after Oscar II arrived in Norway, a beleaguered and physically ill Ford abandoned the mission and returned to the United States.
ADV - "Resistance to Jewish Power: Henry Ford, part 1"
"It was the Jews themselves who convinced me of the direct relationship between the international Jew and war. In fact, they went out of their way to convince me. On the peace ship were two very prominent Jews. We had not been at sea 200 miles before they began telling me of the power of the Jewish race, of how they controlled the world through their control of gold, and that the Jew and no one but the Jew could end the war. I was reluctant to believe it but they went into detail to convince me of the means by which the Jews controlled the war, how they had the money, how they had cornered all the basic materials needed to fight the war and all that, and they talked so long and so well that they convinced me. They said, and they believed, that the Jews started the war, that they would continue it as long as they wished, and that until the Jew stopped the war it could not be stopped. I was so disgusted I would have liked to turn the ship back."
-- Henry Ford, in a Christmas day interview with the New York Times, 1921
And following is an absolutely critical interview with Benjamin Freedman at the Williard Hotel in Washington D.C., 1961. Benjamin Freedman was a New York merchant, a Zionist defector and Christian convert who spent his fortune trying to warn of the events he witnessed first hand in New York and Europe related the events of WWI, Zionism, and WWII.
Critical Video to understand WWII and the rise of Hitler and the Third Reich:
(10-01-2015 05:41 AM)durangotang Wrote: It is clear that Europe is occupied territory.
Quoted for truth. I might add, especially Germany. Just an example, Germany is one of the most anti-nuclear-anything countries in the world. Nevertheless, in case the US declares war on some country and decides to nuke it, German pilots will be handed American nukes and deliver the blow. So yeah, the US is the Empire and Germany is its vassal.
They are all truly great, but here are several that stand out:
1. We demand the unification of all Germans in the Greater Germany on the basis of the people's right to self-determination.
4. Only a member of the race can be a citizen. A member of the race can only be one who is of German blood, without consideration of creed. Consequently no Jew can be a member of the race.
5. Whoever has no citizenship is to be able to live in Germany only as a guest, and must be under the authority of legislation for foreigners.
8. Any further immigration of non-citizens is to be prevented. We demand that all non-Germans, who have immigrated to Germany since 2 August 1914, be forced immediately to leave the Reich.
11. Abolition of unearned (work and labour) incomes. Breaking of debt (interest)-slavery.
17. We demand a land reform suitable to our needs, provision of a law for the free expropriation of land for the purposes of public utility, abolition of taxes on land and prevention of all speculation in land.
18. We demand struggle without consideration against those whose activity is injurious to the general interest. Common national criminals, usurers, profiteers and so forth are to be punished with death, without consideration of confession or race.
19. We demand substitution of a German common law in place of the Roman Law serving a materialistic world-order.
21. The State is to care for the elevating national health by protecting the mother and child, by outlawing child-labor, by the encouragement of physical fitness, by means of the legal establishment of a gymnastic and sport obligation, by the utmost support of all organizations concerned with the physical instruction of the young.
24. We demand freedom of religion for all religious denominations within the state so long as they do not endanger its existence or oppose the moral senses of the Germanic race. The Party as such advocates the standpoint of a positive Christianity without binding itself confessionally to any one denomination. It combats the Jewish-materialistic spirit within and around us, and is convinced that a lasting recovery of our nation can only succeed from within on the framework: The good of the state before the good of the individual.
Hitler was elected Chancellor of Germany on January 30th, 1933.
Judea declares war on German on March 24, 1933:
International Jewry wasted no time in issuing a general boycott of German goods in order to dictate policy to the German people and, if need be, to starve them out. It is important to note that Germany did not grow enough food to feed her population at the time, and relied on it's export business for survival. It had recently suffered hyperinflation, starvation, and was mired in a great depression at the time.
"The Anti-Nazi Boycott of 1933 was a boycott of German products by foreign critics of the Nazi Party in response to antisemitism in Nazi Germany following the rise of Adolf Hitler, commencing with his appointment as Chancellor of Germany on January 30, 1933. Those in the United States, the United Kingdom and other places worldwide who opposed Hitler's policies developed the boycott and its accompanying protests to encourage Nazi Germany to end the regime's anti-Jewish practices."
The Haavara Agreement (Hebrew: הסכם העברה Translit.: heskem haavara Translated: "transfer agreement") was an agreement between Nazi Germany and Zionist German Jews signed on 25 August 1933. The agreement was finalized after three months of talks by the Zionist Federation of Germany, the Anglo-Palestine Bank (under the directive of the Jewish Agency) and the economic authorities of Nazi Germany. The agreement was designed to help facilitate the emigration of German Jews to Palestine. While it helped Jews emigrate, it forced them to temporarily give up possessions to Germany before departing. Those possessions could later be re-obtained by transferring them to Palestine as German export goods.
Thus Hitler facilitated the peaceful transfer of Zionist Jews from Germany to Palestine with the ability to transfer the wealth as well. This ended the boycott.
Obviously the breadth and scope of the struggle taken upon by the National Socialists in Germany is too great to be entirely summarized in a mere post or two.
Filmmaker Denis Wise created a truly terrific documentary series titled:
I highly recommend that everyone watch the documentary series. If you are anything like me for your entire life you have been presented with one side of a story, don't you think you should hear the other side?
I think a good place to entice the reader to watch the series is a video near the end of the documentary.
Tens thousand migrants are reaching the European continent per day (not including the sub-Saharan Africans reaching Italy), and there are anti-migrant protests taking part in Germany where tens of thousands of people are attending. However, the mainstream media isn't even mentioning a word.
All I am hearing is how Putin and the Russian armed forces are creating chaos in Syria
(10-01-2015 09:00 AM)durangotang Wrote: Hitler's speech declaring war on the United States:
Your links are interesting and there is some truth to it, however we should not exalt Hitler here as a glorious humanitarian. The Nazi party did plenty of negative things and went on a rampage across Europe.
Also the NSDAP program especially when usury was concerned only went half-mast. On the Realcurrencies website the economic issue was looked in detail and Hitler later fired the main anti-usury economist who wrote most of the Nazi economic program before getting elected. They applied some of his interest-free rules only to big corporations.
You might want to open a thread on the Nazi time & regime - truth vs fiction, but I would recommend doing it only after asking Roosh. It would have to be moderated more heavily or it would quickly move towards pure anti-semitism (accusing all Jews of being devils just by virtue of being born Jewish) or pure worship of everything Nazi (let's face it - they were certainly not angels even if there were some exaggerations and lies by the usual forces).
This may surprise you, but I think the Holocaust is one of the worst things in human history!
Not because it actually happened, which it didn't, that is to say a deliberate gassing of Jews in a so-called "final solution" - but because it is being used as the most insidious psychological weapon to disposes and genocide white Europeans through guilt! Unimaginably evil.
I'd like to direct your attention all of the newspaper articles talking about the 6 million Jews predating the so-called Holocaust:
Next, I would like to direct you to the court-case of Ernst Zundel:
(10-01-2015 09:00 AM)durangotang Wrote: Hitler's speech declaring war on the United States:
Your links are interesting and there is some truth to it, however we should not exalt Hitler here as a glorious humanitarian. The Nazi party did plenty of negative things and went on a rampage across Europe.
Also the NSDAP program especially when usury was concerned only went half-mast. On the Realcurrencies website the economic issue was looked in detail and Hitler later fired the main anti-usury economist who wrote most of the Nazi economic program before getting elected. They applied some of his interest-free rules only to big corporations.
You might want to open a thread on the Nazi time & regime - truth vs fiction, but I would recommend doing it only after asking Roosh. It would have to be moderated more heavily or it would quickly move towards pure anti-semitism (accusing all Jews of being devils just by virtue of being born Jewish) or pure worship of everything Nazi (let's face it - they were certainly not angels even if there were some exaggerations and lies by the usual forces).
Besides - it's too much off topic here.
Agreed that they weren't angels and Hitler was just a man, who very clearly made mistakes.
Honestly, I am not interested in debating or writing about NSDAP minutia right now. Perhaps in the future I will participate. I am not opposed to it. Frankly, I took all the time to post these things because the Spectre of Nazi Germany still looms in the psyche of Europeans and it is high time that it is confronted. These hordes of foreign invaders need to be turned back, and how can we expect that to happen when people can't even defend themselves because they are afraid of being called a word? I was never taught the opposite side of the story. I don't think a lot of people were, hence my posts.
From my perspective the great evil were the war mongers in the United States, England and the Jewish regime in the Soviet Union - not the Germans.
Quote:Honestly, I am not interested in debating or writing about NSDAP minutia right now. Perhaps in the future I will participate. I am not opposed to it. Frankly, I took all the time to post these things because the Spectre on National Socialist Germany still looms in the psyche of Europeans and it is high time that it is confronted.
I can't help but think this thread is not the best place for that discussion. Most of those posts seem to have a tenuous connection (at best) with the current reality of the migrant crisis facing Europe today.
It seems that under durangotang's expert guidance this thread is degenerating into the Forum's very own Adolf Hitler Appreciation Thread, complete with faggotty-ass Celine Dion serenades to the Führer. Could this shit be shovelled over to stormfront where it belongs?
*** Ecclesiasticus 44:1 Let us now praise famous men, and our Fathers that begat us.
(10-01-2015 10:19 AM)Blaster Wrote: I can't help but think this thread is not the best place for that discussion. Most of those posts seem to have a tenuous connection (at best) with the current reality of the migrant crisis facing Europe today.
The connection is more than obvious. The reason why we are in this mess
is directly related to the outcome of the two great wars.
The elite is sensing that Germany is too strong (again)
and their greatest fear is that Germany and Russia
might start cooperating (again) - see Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact.
To understand the current US (Zionist) foreign policy:
The only real link between any of that to the current situation is that the people he correctly identified for being partly responsible for a lot of the West's ills and tried to remove won. He lost for a variety of reasons and whether that was ultimately good or bad has little to do with this thread.
Now they're at it again far worse than ever and it's illegal to point that out in many parts of the world. They're doing their usual divide and conquer shit. We fight their wars for them that create situations like the migrant crisis, they destroy our culture with degeneracy and inculcate our people with white guilt and in the end they waddle away laughing at our stupidity with their fat stacks of cash. The fact that such a relatively small group of people, along with their traitorous allies whose god is money, can manipulate the masses into fighting and destroying each other pretty much everywhere except Asia is detestable. They're very good at spotting weaknesses in other peoples and exploiting them since they had to do that to survive in this world as an essentially homeless, rootless tribe for thousands of years.
Obsessing over severely flawed men who failed to stop them in the past does nothing to solve the present problem. In fact, their failures and shortcomings provide a pretty good guideline of some important things not to do going forward. I do think some of their successes, especially economic, social, and political should be studied for further use because in some respects we are finding ourselves in similar situations.
The answer to this migrant crisis must come from below, because it will never come from the top controlled by the elites who profit off it. Commercialism, left-wing ideology and its guilt, left-wing obsession with destroying European nations with mass immigration and corrupt capitalism's love of cheap labor, have gone a long way in destroying our nations as well as our cultural consciousness and heritage. These are the evils that have led to where we are today and they're really the same as they were then, just in different forms with different names.
The nationalist parties of Europe are the only ones who can stop this and, in extreme cases, perhaps just nationalists in the militaries of these nations who would be willing to carry out their proper role in protecting their people.
Quote:Migrant Cap Would Violate International Law, Says EU Official
German minister had earlier said the EU should agree on fixed quotas
BRUSSELS—Capping the number of refugees coming to the European Union would violate international law, a top EU official said Thursday after the German government floated the idea as part of its efforts to manage thousands of migrants arriving daily.
“We need to agree on fixed, generous contingents for taking in refugees,” German Interior Minister Thomas De Maizière told the lower house of the German parliament Thursday morning. These contingents, the German minister explained, would limit how many people are taken in.
But Frans Timmermans, who is in charge of defending the rule of law and fundamental rights in the EU, said such a cap would violate the bloc’s and international law.
“It is clear to me that Europe is incapable of accepting all the refugees of the world. Having said that, our international obligations and laws are very clear: Refugees who apply for asylum have the right to have their applications reviewed. Those people who have the right to asylum will get asylum and there is no cap on that,” Mr. Timmermans, vice president of the European Commission, the EU’s executive, said in a news conference.
Mr. Timmermans also warned about the rise of anti-Muslim sentiment in the 28-country bloc. The majority of the 500,000 refugees and migrants who have arrived in Europe since the beginning of the year are Muslim. But Mr. Timmermans said it was wrong to equate Islam with fundamentalism and terrorism.
“It is our responsibility as leaders to provide safety for our citizens but also to stop the generalization, accusing a whole community of being a threat to the other community,” he said. “The overwhelming majority of the Muslim community in Europe—both the ones who have been here for a long time and those who are coming now—are absolutely no threat to our society but render our society stronger.”
Earlier Thursday, Germany’s Mr. De Maizière presented a series of measures in the Bundestag proposed by the German government in response to the unprecedented wave of refugees and migrants arriving in the country. They include cuts to benefit and a speeding up of Germany’s asylum procedures, which some politicians have said act as incentives for migrants to come to the EU’s biggest economy.
The measures still need to be approved by Parliament and haven’t yet been notified to the commission, a spokeswoman for the EU executive said.
If a country doesn’t implement EU asylum rules correctly, the commission can start legal proceedings, including by taking a country to the bloc’s top court and demanding fines. Germany is already under scrutiny for not having communicated how it transposed into national law EU rules on asylum procedures and on conditions for refugees, such as food and shelter.
The commission has also asked Berlin for explanations on why it registered just 156,000 people in the EU-wide EURODAC data system for asylum seekers, out of the 218,000 asylum requests filed in Germany in the first seven months of this year.
Germany expects 800,000 people to arrive this year with the intention of applying for asylum—roughly 1% of the population—and several officials have said the number could easily rise to more than a million. Over the past week, about 8,000 to 10,000 people were arriving daily, even though the government recently reintroduced identity checks at its border with Austria.
Many Germans are getting increasingly worried about how all these refugees will integrate into society. A survey published Thursday shows that 51% of respondents said that integration won’t work, while 43% said it would be a success. In eastern Germany, where anti-immigrant sentiment is more widespread, 68% were convinced that refugees can’t get integrated. The survey, conducted by TNS Emnid institute, asked 1,008 people between Sept. 26 and Sept. 28.
While overall the reception of refugees has been generous, Germany has also seen a rise in hate crime, including arson attacks on shelters for asylum seekers. The latest figures from the Federal Criminal Police Office, known as BKA, show the number of criminal offenses committed against such shelters—including arson attacks—reached 427 between Jan. 1 and Sept. 21, more than twice the 198 recorded during all of last year.
So while we are all sitting here praising Hitler and hoping that he would come back and all that. I'll just add my thoughts on the subject:
So Germans are made to feel guilty from birth "because of history". And because of this history, they have to allow this migrant Invasion...
Well, there is a little more to history than "boo hoo two world wars were started here".
If you read the works of Count Arthur de Gobineau, particularly An Essay on the Inequality of the Human Races, which was written in 1853.
Hitler quotes this over and over in Mein Kampf, he pretty much borrowed the whole nazi version of Die Ubermensch (the master race) from here.
It is all about how cultures fell to shit once they were mixed with other cultures and races. Giving hundreds of examples from all over the world.
It is just something to think about. Because it is going to become very relevant, very soon.
Something I always point out is: Obviously it was impossible for Hitler to just snap his fingers and convince 60 million people that it was a great idea to kill all minorities. Which is what most people believe happened, probably because it is too politically incorrect to say that the majority of the population probably already had a problem with the minorities in Europe.
(10-01-2015 12:00 PM)TheWastelander Wrote: ...The fact that such a relatively small group of people, along with their traitorous allies whose god is money, can manipulate the masses into fighting and destroying each other pretty much everywhere except Asia is detestable. They're very good at spotting weaknesses in other peoples and exploiting them since they had to do that to survive in this world as an essentially homeless, rootless tribe for thousands of years.
I wouldn't call it detestable. It's extraordinary, really. Magical, even. The pattern has existed since biblical times, the last 5000 years, in countless empires and geographies. What these people have been able to accomplish is mind blowing.
We can try to boil down their strategy to "get rich, subvert, and divide and conquer" but that's just ridiculous. Ok, you've got the blueprint now, too, so go execute! But of course you can't. It's not easy. Yet these people have done it, again and again. Empires have risen and fallen and these people have always been there, ready to adapt and nearly always at the top, close to the money and the power.
If they didn't exist, you'd have thought there is no way they COULD exist. It's just too far out there to believe. But they are real! Chosen people, indeed. They should be admired not hated.
With that said, the admiration should by no means prevent us from pursuing our own self interest, regardless of whether that self interest is at odds with others, even those others whom we admire.
(10-01-2015 09:41 AM)TheWastelander Wrote: Alright, but what does that have to do with the current invasion?
The proper way to deal with being termed a nazi is the same as when they call someone a racist, misogynist, xenophobic, etc.
"So what? Who cares?"
Discussing the finer points of national socialism is falling into their frame. It's not something a rational man can discuss with an indoctrinated person, so ignore it or attack back.
(10-01-2015 09:41 AM)TheWastelander Wrote: Alright, but what does that have to do with the current invasion?
The proper way to deal with being termed a nazi is the same as when they call someone a racist, misogynist, xenophobic, etc.
"So what? Who cares?"
Discussing the finer points of national socialism is falling into their frame. It's not something a rational man can discuss with an indoctrinated person, so ignore it or attack back.
(10-01-2015 12:00 PM)TheWastelander Wrote: ...The fact that such a relatively small group of people, along with their traitorous allies whose god is money, can manipulate the masses into fighting and destroying each other pretty much everywhere except Asia is detestable. They're very good at spotting weaknesses in other peoples and exploiting them since they had to do that to survive in this world as an essentially homeless, rootless tribe for thousands of years.
I wouldn't call it detestable. It's extraordinary, really. Magical, even. The pattern has existed since biblical times, the last 5000 years, in countless empires and geographies. What these people have been able to accomplish is mind blowing.
We can try to boil down their strategy to "get rich, subvert, and divide and conquer" but that's just ridiculous. Ok, you've got the blueprint now, too, so go execute! But of course you can't. It's not easy. Yet these people have done it, again and again. Empires have risen and fallen and these people have always been there, ready to adapt and nearly always at the top, close to the money and the power.
If they didn't exist, you'd have thought there is no way they COULD exist. It's just too far out there to believe. But they are real! Chosen people, indeed. They should be admired not hated.
With that said, the admiration should by no means prevent us from pursuing our own self interest, regardless of whether that self interest is at odds with others, even those others whom we admire.
It's not as impressive when you consider the fact that, for some reason, a lot of societies allowed them to be involved in finance. That's the last area they should've ever been allowed into. Those with the gold rule.
Letting ethnic mafias go into finance and law is a terrible idea.
I think it is good to get some perspective on WW2, particularly the great evil and great threat of the Sovjet empire, which was just as bad and worse than the Nazis, the forgotten Holomodor genocide and so on.
It IS very important to make people understand the context for the growth of the Nazi party, a response to jewish-bolshevism and understanding that history is played forward but only understood backwards. The Sovjet Union was an apocalyptic threat in the 20s for Europe. Remember that the Sovjets began genocides long before Hitler.
That said, Nazism is dead and buried, and the Nazis did a lot of evil things, regardless of your view on the Holocast. The Nazis were massively totalitarian and their take on eugenicism and 'racial purity', is one I find abhorrent (despite it living on in abortion and sperm banks!).
That kind of totalitarianism doesn't sit well with me. I strongly prefer and strongly believe that American Henry Ford patriotic capitalism, based on religious values and some support network, is the utmost societal model we should strive for. As far as improving the country and stock, I believe in soft eugenicism from having a system which rewards hard working, intelligent, courageous men. This is the model that made the US hugely successful and it can again.
This model of society is of course very suspectible to the kind of nefarious media and money influence, so I can understand why some people consider liberal capitalism as a failed model. I personally think a Russian model of free market capitalism with a patriotic political 'dictator' is a good future model.
There is a need to formulate ideologies which can take over after EU and the socialist states fail, but I think it is a mistake to think the 30s fascist movements hold the key. Roosh' Neo-Masculinity is a good beginning.
(10-01-2015 12:25 PM)TheWastelander Wrote: Letting ethnic mafias go into finance and law is a terrible idea.
Hmm yes terrible indeed. Yet they are involved in crafting culture and pop media, finance (controlling inflow/outflow of capital), historical narration, and foreign policy.
Nothing wrong here for the American public of course. Don't change horses midstream etc..
(10-01-2015 09:41 AM)TheWastelander Wrote: Alright, but what does that have to do with the current invasion?
I don't know, I'm sort of getting convinced that this guy is deliberately trying to stir up trouble like that plant at Trump's rally last week.
Yeah, you absolutely need to stop letting the buzzwords cow you into submission, but Hitler apologia isn't going to help either and is going to give the enemy ammunition.
Meanwhile, I saw someone saying that Germany's constitution basically mandates that anyone who can claim refugee status will be given asylum, without regard to number.
Can any German members here validate this?
Some were saying that Merkel was very reluctant but her hands were tied legally as to what she could do.
Though I'm not sure I buy this because the answer is very simple - defend Europe's borders and stop the boats from coming.