Quote:Adequate financing is critical. The EU should provide €15,000 ($16,800) per asylum-seeker for each of the first two years to help cover housing, health care, and education costs – and to make accepting refugees more appealing to member states. It can raise these funds by issuing long-term bonds using its largely untapped AAA borrowing capacity, which will have the added benefit of providing a justified fiscal stimulus to the European economy.
Quote:It is equally important to allow both states and asylum-seekers to express their preferences, using the least possible coercion. Placing refugees where they want to go – and where they are wanted – is a sine qua non of success.
He mentions Orban, which means that very soon we will witness some sort of colour revolution in Budapest.
Quote:Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán has now also produced a six-point plan to address the crisis. But his plan, which subordinates the human rights of asylum-seekers and migrants to the security of borders, threatens to divide and destroy the EU by renouncing the values on which it was built and violating the laws that are supposed to govern it.
(09-30-2015 12:24 PM)PhDre Wrote: This indoctrination has been running for the past 7 decades (and definitely went into overdrive the last 10 to 20 years) and the message is very clear: if you subscribe to any of these ideas or vote for a party that wants to enforce them, then you are a monster that approves of the holocaust and wants to repeat it.
Did it work?
For me, there can only be two reasons why the FPÖ achieved only 30% in the latest regional election:
1) The large majority of Austrians are mentally handicapped. They are unable to make observations, connect cause and effect, generalize their findings and vote for the people that want to deal with the problems they indentify.
2) The indoctrination has worked.
In a sane country, with mentally healthy people, the only normal result under the given circumstances would be an 80%+ score for the far-right party.
And Austria is not alone.
There is Front National in France, Vlaams Belang and Front National in Belgium, PVV in the Netherlands, NPD in Germany, Sverigedemokraterna in Sweden,…
All of these parties have a hardcore group of voters of around 5-10% which rises to (and caps at) 20-30% in crisis situations as we face now.
If you go to any of these countries and you question the inhabitants, you will find that a lot of them agree on nearly all of the points that I mentioned above (or at least on the ones concerning migration). However, once they learn from their politicians, academics and quality media that these viewpoints are racist, facist and Nazi, they will feel guilty about their real opinion, they will hide it and they will certainly not vote for a party that wants to enforce it – lest they be the enablers of a new holocaust.
I think that we will not see an electoral majority for a far-right party in Europe until we reach Syria-like levels of poverty and violence. And by then, the far-right parties will already be outlawed and banned, as happened to the Vlaams Blok in Belgium in 2004 after they became the most popular party in Flanders and one of the most successful far-right parties in Europe.
You make a few really good points. Like I said before, the real enemy is not the Jews, the bankers, the globalists, or even the invading migrants. It is the current order or system in power, namely liberal democracy. I don't discount the theory that the Jewish elite or the globalists have agenda to destroy European civilization. However, the problem I have with these "conspiracy theories" is that they fail to mention how the current liberal elite got their power. For the most part, they got power legitimately. Furthermore, if the aforementioned groups were suddenly to completely disappear, European civilization will still be fucked because liberal democracy enables parasites such as the liberals, bankers, globalists, etc. to legitimately get positions of power and go on a "long march through the institutions of power," thus perverting and destroying the main culture.
Anyhow, the far right in Europe is playing a loser's game at the moment. It is unlikely that they win the votes because the crowd always pick the easiest and most comfortable choice, not the best one. Even if the far right gets elected they won't be able to save Europe from itself, unless it completely gets rid of liberal democracy.
As for the current elites in the EU, they are doomed. History tells us that whenever the elites lose sight of reality, they lose power and are usually exiled or killed.
(09-30-2015 03:32 PM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote: Serious question: do these people ever do anything other than tapping away at their phones?
They are trying to fit in... show how well they are already assimilated to 14 year old white girls. Happy wife - happy life! Also - let's not forget the joy of posting selfies from Europe on Facebook for their poor pursued relatives back at home to admire and envy.
Face looks defeated and look at his hands in his pocket. I remember him.
Emasculated bitch.
Honestly these faggots need to start getting beaten up.
Emasculated yes, faggot yes, but - I don't know how his face looks defeated? His face could be less soft for sure, but I don't see the "defeat" in his eyes.
I know guys like this, and many of them are pretty much in "Flow" now. They believe they're in a good fight against evil "Nazi" forces, that time and the grand scheme of things are on their side, that the world is changing for the better... they don't see any negative consequences. I have contact with guys like this one and I'm trying to find an angle how to discuss with them without making me their target. Today I was making the point to one that I don't trust governments in general to do what is right, but that politicians always act for their own good and that they will just put a moral "spin" on their decisions. He was pondering what I said and then replied that he believes that there may be some politicians who will act like that, but that the majority of politicians really want to do good... these people are so delusional in their beliefs.. the current situation makes me feel more defeated than them
@Sgt I used to think the it was mostly the Millenial generation and women who fell for the indoctrination handed down to them by media and academia, but there's a stubbornly large cohort of men of my generation, born in the 70s or late 60s who are if anything, the biggest cucks of all.
In a sense, they have no excuse, because they were brought up in less politically correct times and were exposed to both sides of the coin, and still have chosen to embrace the r-selected loser wallowing in their lower consciousness.
What we're dealing with here is the Echo Chamber effect, writ large, on a global scale.
Take for instance, I was in Berlin recently, was in a number of bars, cafes, a couple of hotels.
Not all of them had free newspapers or magazines to read, but for those that had, it was either magazines like 'Die Spiegel'(unashamedly liberal) or 'The Guardian', 'the New York Times' or one of the German broadsheets(pretty much all strongly liberal).
So for anyone that picks up one of these publications, they're going to get an (un)healthy dose of reality denying #refugeeswelcome propaganda, which unless you're someone who's 'aware', will seep it's way into your subconscious.
It's not much better in Ireland, and with all that Catholic guilt programmed into us for generations, many people are only too willing to buy into the exploitative and emotionally manipulative messages played daily on our media channels.
When, 90% of what you're seeing and hearing is pro-refugee/economic migrant propaganda, chances are you're going to buy into it and be negative (or even hostile) towards anyone going against that narrative.
This is the challenge that Europe is facing and I fear it could be insurmountable.
Of course, there's always the danger that us here on RVF could fall victim to the Echo Chamber effect too.
After the last Facebook post, which got such a negative response from some well meaning perhaps, but ultimately very cucked colleagues, I began to question myself too. "Am I xenophobe? a bigot? Do I hate foreigners? Am I really an Islamophobe? Am I just a nasty piece of work, a bad person?!"
Have to say I really doubted myself, felt really low for several days afterwards and shut down my Facebook account and toned down much of what I was saying on Twitter too.
The reality is that many people are just too indoctrinated right now to see sense on this matter.
There really is no talking to them.
Some will gradually 'wake up' over time, but I fear that many will stay ignorant and continue on their societal destructive path of pathological altruism.
How much more pussified could western European men possibly get(guys on this forum excluded of course)? How many of their women have to get raped by men that think of themselves as invaders before they get their shit together and stop making excuses for this human garbage?
I'm losing hope that the cucks will ever wake up. These goatfuckers could bulldoze the Cathedral of Cologne tomorrow and there would be a crowd of Germans behind them cheering and thanking them.
(09-30-2015 03:32 PM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote: Serious question: do these people ever do anything other than tapping away at their phones?
They've got to pass the time somehow while they wait for their 6 year old wives to turn 9 so they can bang.
(09-30-2015 06:21 PM)amity Wrote: @Sgt I used to think the it was mostly the Millenial generation and women who fell for the indoctrination handed down to them by media and academia, but there's a stubbornly large cohort of men of my generation, born in the 70s or late 60s who are if anything, the biggest cucks of all.
In a sense, they have no excuse, because they were brought up in less politically correct times and were exposed to both sides of the coin, and still have chosen to embrace the r-selected loser wallowing in their lower consciousness.
What we're dealing with here is the Echo Chamber effect, writ large, on a global scale.
Take for instance, I was in Berlin recently, was in a number of bars, cafes, a couple of hotels.
Not all of them had free newspapers or magazines to read, but for those that had, it was either magazines like 'Die Spiegel'(unashamedly liberal) or 'The Guardian', 'the New York Times' or one of the German broadsheets(pretty much all strongly liberal).
So for anyone that picks up one of these publications, they're going to get an (un)healthy dose of reality denying #refugeeswelcome propaganda, which unless you're someone who's 'aware', will seep it's way into your subconscious.
It's not much better in Ireland, and with all that Catholic guilt programmed into us for generations, many people are only too willing to buy into the exploitative and emotionally manipulative messages played daily on our media channels.
When, 90% of what you're seeing and hearing is pro-refugee/economic migrant propaganda, chances are you're going to buy into it and be negative (or even hostile) towards anyone going against that narrative.
This is the challenge that Europe is facing and I fear it could be insurmountable.
Of course, there's always the danger that us here on RVF could fall victim to the Echo Chamber effect too.
After the last Facebook post, which got such a negative response from some well meaning perhaps, but ultimately very cucked colleagues, I began to question myself too. "Am I xenophobe? a bigot? Do I hate foreigners? Am I really an Islamophobe? Am I just a nasty piece of work, a bad person?!"
Have to say I really doubted myself, felt really low for several days afterwards and shut down my Facebook account and toned down much of what I was saying on Twitter too.
The reality is that many people are just too indoctrinated right now to see sense on this matter.
There really is no talking to them.
Some will gradually 'wake up' over time, but I fear that many will stay ignorant and continue on their societal destructive path of pathological altruism.
I absolutely understand what you mean! There is no question that this is how the system is designed to work.
It is called demoralization. It is a psychological process where society begins to accept and internalize the propaganda of the enemy, that is why you doubt yourself. The ultimate goal of demoralization is when a person cannot arrive at an understanding of reality despite himself experience an abundance of true information. Demoralization takes between 15-20 years to accomplish, because a new generation must be raised with a subverted value system received through corrupted institutions that shape public opinion (education, religion, media, etc). In the west we have been living under ever increasing amounts of demoralization, which is ironically referred to as progress, since World War II.
You do not live in a free society, in the formerly Christian west. You do not have leaders devoted to your interests in what will soon be the formerly European west (unless it is stopped). You have no valid history or identity in formerly racist west. You exist under enemy occupation, in the formerly heteronormative west.
If you disagree you are a racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, anti-semite, nazi, fascist - who wants to kill six million jews.
The technical name for this form of psychological warfare systematized in the Soviet Union, is Active Measures (активные мероприятия). If anyone caught the latest Putin interview on 60 minutes, he is asked a question regarding Syria arming Isis at the 3:30 mark and he honestly brushes it aside as "Active Measures" or psychological warfare.
The program required to subvert and subjugate an enemy society through Active Measures proceeds in four steps. First is Demoralization, then is Destabilization, next is Crises, and finally is the cynically named "Normalization" (where a degraded state of affairs is stabilized and becomes the new normal).
A Soviet defector of the KGB fled to Canada, Yuri Bezmenov, and carefully outlines the exact process of subversion in that poses a threat to the West. The speech is a must watch, and actually quite humorous. Towards the end, he shows how to reverse the process of demoralization:
It's encouraging to see some really good and level-headed analysis in this thread. Right now, a new generation of pro-European thinkers and activists is being forged.
I've sifted a bit through the media - Germany, Eastern Europe. TV stations - even main ones - barely mention the migrants.
On the German Tagesschau they just spoke about the "refugees" who will join the labor market and that they need to quickly give them asylum, so that they can "start work".
Meanwhile Pat Condell gives a good explanation why Muslim are 80% unemployed in the EU (many of them having already become citizens):
It explains clearly why employers will avoid hiring them, even avoid inviting some for an interview since there have been cases where Muslims have sued and won for having been invited, but not hired.
Also one might add that most don't come to Europe to clean toilets or work at the asparagus harvest. They spent 5.000-15.000$ on their travel and now expect a different life - which explains why they complain about the Hummus. The food by the way can be explained by the fact that many European kitchens are badly suited to cook Halal food. It's likely that they did not want to "insult" them, so they did not serve them potatoes, meat and gravy - or some gulasz and bread - the usual mass kitchen products in Europe (which are nutrient dense, but again might be viewed as racist).
Condell also has a good vid:
He states correctly that they are importing barbarism, importing war.
But as I mentioned - they are toning it down in the media - in some Eastern European countries they don't mention the topic at all as if it had stopped existing.
Quote:But as I mentioned - they are toning it down in the media - in some Eastern European countries they don't mention the topic at all as if it had stopped existing.
Yep, Croatia is getting even more migrants per day than before, but there is scarcely any info about it in the newspapers. It's as if someone pulled the plug.
After losing the "war of minds" and realizing that most of the people see through the bullshit, the next step of a totalitarian regime is to clamp down on all information.
Right now, all news regarding Syria is about how the eeeeeevil Russia is supporting the dictator Assad and causing "enormous amounts of civilian victims". Not a peep about the migrants.
Quote:But as I mentioned - they are toning it down in the media - in some Eastern European countries they don't mention the topic at all as if it had stopped existing.
Yep, Croatia is getting even more migrants per day than before, but there is scarcely any info about it in the newspapers. It's as if someone pulled the plug.
After losing the "war of minds" and realizing that most of the people see through the bullshit, the next step of a totalitarian regime is to clamp down on all information.
Right now, all news regarding Syria is about how the eeeeeevil Russia is supporting the dictator Assad and causing "enormous amounts of civilian victims". Not a peep about the migrants.
I've just searched for the word 'refugees' on the front page of several of the better known Western broadsheets (and a couple of Irish ones).
Most have 0 hits, 'The Guardian' has two mentions of the word but nothing like the coverage of recent weeks.
And like you said, Russian involvement in Syria is one of the leading, if not the leading story today almost across the board.
It really is like you said, almost like a global concensus across the Western press, 'Ok guys, we got word from above, lose the 'migrants/refugees' stories and replace it with 'Russia causing havoc in Syria' headlines.'
Is it just me or does the woman look like she's instantly regretting it?
It's you.
She has that typical "excited German" horse poker face.
Though she's kind of strangely hot, in that low 7 who's doing all the wrong things for all the wrong reasons way. You can't help but want to dick-slap some sense back into her, because that "boyfriend" thing next to her is useless in every possible way.
^Look at them^ fiddling smugly with those laptops. In the old days her man would be shoving his member down her throat on that same balcony. Nowadays they are apart even when together, sipping on their "fair trade" coffees, pretending they lead important, fulfilling, trendy lives.
The inspiration for the Fluechtlinge Willkommen project came about when Geilinge, had been travelling and living in Cairo: “Whilst out seeing sluttying the world I was immersed in a variety of cultures cocks, Cairo was a stop of place for many immigrants bums hoping to make it to leech off Europe, so when I came back here and saw refugees sole mates struggling to integrate penetrate, I had to do something get some.
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^Hamsters^ don't even realize how their hum is humming so close to surface.
(09-30-2015 12:24 PM)PhDre Wrote: She’s maybe obsessed with them, but I think the constant Nazi references have a clear goal in this article: to steer undecided voters away from the FPÖ.
For the past 70 years, Western politicians and media have been labeling every political party and movement that wants to:
- preserve and reinforce the national identity and strengthen the country
- promote and reinforce the nuclear family as cornerstone of society
as Nazi.
You only accept immigrants with a job offer and sufficient savings? Nazi
You exclude immigrants from welfare and free healthcare until they’ve worked and paid taxes for multiple years? Nazi
You send criminal immigrants back to their country of origin? Nazi
You expect immigrants to adapt to our culture? Nazi
You demand that immigrants learn our language? Nazi
You refuse to fund the construction of massive mosques with taxpayer money? Nazi
Government restaurants don’t serve halal food? Nazi
You call out immigrants on their astonishing crime rates and welfare leeching? Nazi
You refuse to give muslims the right to violate our laws because they are in conflict with their religion? Nazi
You don’t enforce positive discrimination of women and minorities? Nazi
You impose strict divorce laws to avoid frivorce? Nazi
You impose strict abortion laws? Nazi
You prohibit gay marriage and gay child adoption? Nazi
You prohibit gender reassignment surgery? Nazi
You declare trans-sexuality a mental illness? Nazi
You prohibit gay propaganda parades? Nazi
This indoctrination has been running for the past 7 decades (and definitely went into overdrive the last 10 to 20 years) and the message is very clear: if you subscribe to any of these ideas or vote for a party that wants to enforce them, then you are a monster that approves of the holocaust and wants to repeat it.
Did it work?
For me, there can only be two reasons why the FPÖ achieved only 30% in the latest regional election:
1) The large majority of Austrians are mentally handicapped. They are unable to make observations, connect cause and effect, generalize their findings and vote for the people that want to deal with the problems they indentify.
2) The indoctrination has worked.
In a sane country, with mentally healthy people, the only normal result under the given circumstances would be an 80%+ score for the far-right party.
And Austria is not alone.
There is Front National in France, Vlaams Belang and Front National in Belgium, PVV in the Netherlands, NPD in Germany, Sverigedemokraterna in Sweden,…
All of these parties have a hardcore group of voters of around 5-10% which rises to (and caps at) 20-30% in crisis situations as we face now.
If you go to any of these countries and you question the inhabitants, you will find that a lot of them agree on nearly all of the points that I mentioned above (or at least on the ones concerning migration). However, once they learn from their politicians, academics and quality media that these viewpoints are racist, facist and Nazi, they will feel guilty about their real opinion, they will hide it and they will certainly not vote for a party that wants to enforce it – lest they be the enablers of a new holocaust.
I think that we will not see an electoral majority for a far-right party in Europe until we reach Syria-like levels of poverty and violence. And by then, the far-right parties will already be outlawed and banned, as happened to the Vlaams Blok in Belgium in 2004 after they became the most popular party in Flanders and one of the most successful far-right parties in Europe.
It is clear that Europe is occupied territory.
70 Years of Active Measures have taken it's toll. Nazi, Nazi, Nazi, Nazi!
The attempt to support anything normal and healthy, with a positive self image, or in the genuine interests of the people themselves, is labeled Nazi.
That should tell you something.
Despite so many people knowing and supporting common sense policies to enable the very survival of their children, they are paralyzed in fear of being called a name. This is the result of relentless psychological warfare.
Does it ever occur to you that ✡ the powers that be ✡ in Europe and America have created a society so sick that the social repercussions of cutting your dick off and pumping yourself full of female hormones are less than having an honest conversation about your history? A transvestite would be better received in most social circles in the west than a National Socialist.
If that doesn't tell you everything you need to know about who rules you, then I don't know what to tell you.
To my European brothers, how long do you plan on living in the psychological frame of a hostile oppressor? How long do you plan on apologizing?
Do you really think that will do any good?
It is time for Europeans to confront this psychological warfare head on and examine just why the term Nazi has been so demonized by your enemies. You might be surprised.