(09-28-2015 07:39 PM)Sombro Wrote:  

I don't know why this guy is not more popular and put on TV or anything.

Basically he is just pointing out the blatant facts and doing things like, taking this whole 108 page thread and making it into a 6 minute video.

This is the type of guy I want running countries.

(09-29-2015 03:26 AM)Glaucon Wrote:  There might be a hope for Germany after all. Merkel's approval is tanking, and a heart warming protest in Dresden:

German nationalists in Dresden declare "Germany for the Germans."

Very good to see. That looks like quite a lot of people as well.

Meanwhile, as tens of thousands of migrants walk into Europe per day, for the last week or so there has been little-to-no mainstream media coverage of the issue. It looks like they are just trying to sweep it under the rug.

(09-28-2015 05:33 PM)Dan Woolf Wrote:  

(09-28-2015 05:07 PM)johnfortunebg Wrote:  Multiculturalism YES

Quote:A Muslim father in Germany has admitted to strangling his 19-year-old daughter to death after she was caught shoplifting condoms to be with her boyfriend.

Does that mean that when dating a muslim girl one has not only to worry about him being knifed by her brother but also for her being strangled by her family?
Just FYI, they are originally from Pakistan, land of enlightenment, liberty and reason.

I wonder how many honor killings are necessary to turn 1% of feminists against the invasion? I guess a lot more than we are currently seeing.

To be honest, it's a part of their culture and we need to respect that. It might seem crazy, even unacceptable to you because of your upbringing, but to them it's the way of life. We just need to understand them and their customs.

Oh and by the way, offense can't be given, it has to be taken.

Actually, it is not part of culture nor is it any kind of custom. It's nothing more than a crime of passion. Committed out of anger at disobedience and the potential shame it could bring to the family. No one actually believes in the righteousness of the act, not even the ones that commit it. And only a select few actually commit it.

(09-29-2015 03:48 AM)Biologist Wrote:  

(09-29-2015 03:26 AM)Glaucon Wrote:  There might be a hope for Germany after all. Merkel's approval is tanking, and a heart warming protest in Dresden:

German nationalists in Dresden declare "Germany for the Germans."

Very good to see. That looks like quite a lot of people as well.

Meanwhile, as tens of thousands of migrants walk into Europe per day, for the last week or so there has been little-to-no mainstream media coverage of the issue. It looks like they are just trying to sweep it under the rug.

There were 40-50.000 Germans on that demonstration. It was hardly reported in the media.

(09-29-2015 04:36 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

(09-29-2015 03:48 AM)Biologist Wrote:  

(09-29-2015 03:26 AM)Glaucon Wrote:  There might be a hope for Germany after all. Merkel's approval is tanking, and a heart warming protest in Dresden:

German nationalists in Dresden declare "Germany for the Germans."

Very good to see. That looks like quite a lot of people as well.

Meanwhile, as tens of thousands of migrants walk into Europe per day, for the last week or so there has been little-to-no mainstream media coverage of the issue. It looks like they are just trying to sweep it under the rug.

There were 40-50.000 Germans on that demonstration. It was hardly reported in the media.

If you do not report it, did not happen! Magic!

@Zelcorpion

Did any big newspapers write about? I could not find new links for it. Would like to see it in hope to reinstate my hope for humanity. It`s been running thin lately...

According to reports, 48 % of Germans disagree with Merkels refugee politics. Even in her own party many are against her. With ever report of violent actions in refugee camps the wind of welcome blows away. Especially when the violence is committed by intolerant muslims. With reports of child rape and forced prostitution.
Many Germans volunteer to help, with good intention but they are the ones that are the reason why the system did not break down. The state governments and Merkel just talk big stuff and do nothing. No new refugee camps, no plan what should happen in the future. Even president Gauck now say, Germany has a limit.
Bavaria president Seehofer also long disagree with the politics of Merkel and had some talk with Hungary's president.

Many Germans support the idea to help but more and more the question about integration is there. German had before many problems with muslim immigrants and now with even 1 Million more it don't get better. What many Germans feel, there is beside the mentality to help a lack of a plan how to manage this issue long term.

Personal I support that the EU defend the boarders, how can you have Schengen when you are open outside? So many people storm into Germany with no legal registration. EU should build up camps in northern Syria and other places.
Now even the EU criticise Germany because many denied refugees ain't send home for many years. The state authorities did not send them home because its an unpopular issue. Still its a wrong signal. It say, even when you are not accepted as refugee, Germany let you stay anyway.

Biggest mistake is the wrong tolerance. With every issue its never the fault of the immigrants. There will be always someone standing up that Germans should be even more tolerant. As said first, 48 % disagree with the politics.

The question is, what can you do? A revolution? No way. Vote against Merkel? Maybe but there is no one better, a pity. Germany and Europe should not build its hope on sweet dreams. When people from other cultures are storm into Germany and Europe have to make clear what are their values. The wrong tolerance lead to so much more harm and integration problems then any far right wing racist could do. But they are idiots also.

More proof that this is about gibsmedat welfare

Rough translation of the relevant passage:

Quote:Out of 893 kids in the (Bulgarian) refugee camps, only 8 are enrolled in school. They (presumably the parents) cite as a motive for that that they do not want to stay in Bulgaria.

The easiest way to repel the invasion:
No welfare for pseudo refugees.

(09-29-2015 03:26 AM)Glaucon Wrote:  There might be a hope for Germany after all. Merkel's approval is tanking, and a heart warming protest in Dresden:

German nationalists in Dresden declare "Germany for the Germans."

What was the relative age of the crowd?

(09-29-2015 05:25 AM)johnfortunebg Wrote:  More proof that this is about gibsmedat welfare

Rough translation of the relevant passage:

Quote:Out of 893 kids in the (Bulgarian) refugee camps, only 8 are enrolled in school. They (presumably the parents) cite as a motive for that that they do not want to stay in Bulgaria.

The easiest way to repel the invasion:
No welfare for pseudo refugees.

Not easy at all. They'd have to find a way to send a message to the middle east on such a large scale that everybody who lives there can see it. "No more welfare for migrants". Otherwise the migrants would keep showing up anyway, only to turn desperate and violent once they realize they won't get what the smugglers promised them.

(09-29-2015 07:52 AM)armint Wrote:  

(09-29-2015 05:25 AM)johnfortunebg Wrote:  More proof that this is about gibsmedat welfare

Rough translation of the relevant passage:

Quote:Out of 893 kids in the (Bulgarian) refugee camps, only 8 are enrolled in school. They (presumably the parents) cite as a motive for that that they do not want to stay in Bulgaria.

The easiest way to repel the invasion:
No welfare for pseudo refugees.

Not easy at all. They'd have to find a way to send a message to the middle east on such a large scale that everybody who lives there can see it. "No more welfare for migrants". Otherwise the migrants would keep showing up anyway, only to turn desperate and violent once they realize they won't get what the smugglers promised them.

As far as I know, Australia has done it. Orban has also put ads in newspapers in the region about the fence.

Also, if violence is not a sufficient cause for deportation (yes, I know that according to the cultural marxists it is not, but even relatively few incidents of it will turn the natives against them), I do not know what is.

(09-29-2015 05:03 AM)Frekkesen Wrote:  @Zelcorpion

Did any big newspapers write about? I could not find new links for it. Would like to see it in hope to reinstate my hope for humanity. It`s been running thin lately...

There was not a peep in the press. They talked about the previous demonstration with 5000 people, but omitted the bigger one completely. 40.000 and it did not happen. Found out only via alternative channels. Of course most were older, but that is based not on the fact that young people don't support it, but because the young have moved away.

They call it evening walk:

   

   
As you can see the organizers are separating themselves consciously from Neonazis. Of course when 100.000 turn up peacefully and obviously not extremists, then they will just not report it.

You can watch some of the videos here:

https://www.facebook.com/pegidaevdresden...084828548/

What I notice is that despite 8000-10000 migrants per day the media tones down the discussion. And most people in the EU don't notice anything aside from those few who live across the invasion routes.

Most countries seem to be stepping stones. I noticed that the Austrian authorities are getting the hang there of moving the invaders quicker to their nirvana of Germany.

In Germany the opposition is rising, but even there the media has relegated the invasion topic to a 2 minute contribution at the German Tagesschau. The flood will hit Sweden likely the most since Germany is still a formerly 100.000 million people who lost a good part of their population in recent decades. They can fit the people into living quarters - mostly in the east - heh.

So yes - I think that the order is clear - despite 10.000 daily invaders the media has decided to just ignore it. If you don't mention it too much, then it does not exist.

And the flow continues 10.000 per day/ 300.000 per month / 3.500.000 per year as if nothing major happens. Meanwhile they are having a languid discussion about separating the migrants in the camps since recently a fight broke out between Pakistanis and Albanians. I guess they have to separate them all between religions and countries - however since 50% of them are "Syrians", then I wonder how that will work.

Fuck them - Germany and Sweden is doomed - so is Italy, France and Spain via the illegal Africans which continue at numbers of 5.000-10.000 per day as well. The media does not report about them at all anymore - it's as if they have stopped existing. But I did notice that even in the German media footage Somali-looking "Syrians" can be found.

They will have to close the border someday, but that can take years. It seems that they let in as many as possible until most of the population won't take it anymore - becomes violent or votes far right. That can take a decade for most countries. By then they will have their 50 million hostile soulmates and future husbands. At least the Eastern European countries will be still white and even more right-leaning than before.

Then the internal terrorism, mayhem and economic destruction can start for real. The German socialists solution is to run through the refugees faster to asylum so that they can work (with 5.000.000 unemployed) - what a scam.

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(09-29-2015 07:52 AM)armint Wrote:  

(09-29-2015 05:25 AM)johnfortunebg Wrote:  ...
The easiest way to repel the invasion:
No welfare for pseudo refugees.

Not easy at all. They'd have to find a way to send a message to the middle east on such a large scale that everybody who lives there can see it. "No more welfare for migrants". Otherwise the migrants would keep showing up anyway, only to turn desperate and violent once they realize they won't get what the smugglers promised them.

This problem has been successfully dealt with in just about every civilized country in the world for many years already.

I've talked to people from the ex-Yugoslav republics who tried to claim refugee status in some European countries in the 90s and the 00s, and the common feature was that you really needed to persuade the immigration officers that you're a genuine refugee.

This farce that is going on in Europe and Germany in particular is because the German government has ordered it's immigration institutions TO STAND DOWN in their evaluation process.

A few ordinary Syrian born German citizens can be employed as interviewers and they will easily evaluate who speaks Arabic and whether it's a Syrian dialect of Arabic.

This itself will eliminate about 90% of the refugees as being fake.

Now taking into account that in order to reach Germany most refugees spend their lifetime savings which are between $1000 and $5000, imagine what will happen when the word spreads that all fake asylum seekers are refused asylum and will be deported back home.

The flow of migrants will stop in a couple days or so.

This problem is as easily solvable as the ISIS problem: You don't need to defeat ISIS. Just stop recruiting crazy fanatics to join their ranks, stop training them in Turkey and Saudi Arabia, stop providing them money from the US and Saudi budgets, stop calling them "moderate Syrian opposition", and stop providing military and logistic cover for them against the regular Syrian army.

Quote:A few ordinary Syrian born German citizens can be employed as interviewers and they will easily evaluate who speaks Arabic and whether it's a Syrian dialect of Arabic.

This itself will eliminate about 90% of the refugees as being fake.

I read that they're doing this, but with the sheer numbers involved it probably won't be anything more than randomized spot checks.

(09-29-2015 09:33 AM)atlant Wrote:  

Quote:A few ordinary Syrian born German citizens can be employed as interviewers and they will easily evaluate who speaks Arabic and whether it's a Syrian dialect of Arabic.

This itself will eliminate about 90% of the refugees as being fake.

I read that they're doing this, but with the sheer numbers involved it probably won't be anything more than randomized spot checks.

Don't let yourself be fooled. If you think that they are later going to throw out 90% of them out because of not coming from Syria, then you are mistaken. The plan is to let them in. If they had wanted to stop them, then they would send navy ships to the Greek borders.

(09-29-2015 09:37 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

(09-29-2015 09:33 AM)atlant Wrote:  

Quote:A few ordinary Syrian born German citizens can be employed as interviewers and they will easily evaluate who speaks Arabic and whether it's a Syrian dialect of Arabic.

This itself will eliminate about 90% of the refugees as being fake.

I read that they're doing this, but with the sheer numbers involved it probably won't be anything more than randomized spot checks.

Don't let yourself be fooled. If you think that they are later going to throw out 90% of them out because of not coming from Syria, then you are mistaken. The plan is to let them in. If they had wanted to stop them, then they would send navy ships to the Greek borders.

I envision some speeding up of deportations (they are doing them currently but in small numbers) but even then, no more than 20-30% of the pseudorefugees will be deported. Most will stay and in 15 years, apart from the problem with the ones allowed to stay, we will be facing the same problem America has with illegal Mexicans - only with muslims, hence worse.

People keep talking about the Muslims taking over in 10-15 years, but I ask, what's to stop them from taking over RIGHT now? The governments keep the Muslims from being removed or harmed, and the native population is too disarmed and weakened to throw a revolt.

I say Germany doesn't last 5 years. They are going full speed with the Eurabian project.

(09-29-2015 09:41 AM)Samseau Wrote:  People keep talking about the Muslims taking over in 10-15 years, but I ask, what's to stop them from taking over RIGHT now? The governments keep the Muslims from being removed or harmed, and the native population is too disarmed and weakened to throw a revolt.

I say Germany doesn't last 5 years. They are going full speed with the Eurabian project.

Samseau, did we have historical incidence when things like that happen to use as reference?

(09-29-2015 09:41 AM)Samseau Wrote:  People keep talking about the Muslims taking over in 10-15 years, but I ask, what's to stop them from taking over RIGHT now? The governments keep the Muslims from being removed or harmed, and the native population is too disarmed and weakened to throw a revolt.

I say Germany doesn't last 5 years. They are going full speed with the Eurabian project.

The world is not led by a random drunk fool stumbling along. The migrant spigot will be closed one day. The money power has no intention of Europe to become Muslim.

The police and the military - as well as local militias could easily deal with all extremists. But that is not the goal - the Muslims coming in will be at the bottom of the social pole - they won't be even able to unify into one Muslim party. They certainly were not able to do so in countries like France or Sweden where they have a sizable part of the population. They don't believe in democracy - heh.

So no - it won't be the Roman-style destruction of civilization. White people will keep on policing, keep on administrating the 1st world country. And the new arrivals will keep on cashing the checks, raping, rioting, doing crime, selling drugs and draining resources that will be taken from the productive population and from the social services to the local poor. The wealthy will keep on living in 99% white areas with greater police presence and maybe some additional security walls in the future.

Everyone keeps forgetting that each year you need less and less people working to uphold a similar level of civilization. That process will even accelerate in the future with applied robotics, self-driving cars and checkouts.

Assumptions that the EU & US are led by short-sighted greedy CEOs or even politicians are really not overly informed. The migrant crisis is likely in planning since decades already with all possible scenarios factored in.

(09-29-2015 09:45 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  

(09-29-2015 09:41 AM)Samseau Wrote:  People keep talking about the Muslims taking over in 10-15 years, but I ask, what's to stop them from taking over RIGHT now? The governments keep the Muslims from being removed or harmed, and the native population is too disarmed and weakened to throw a revolt.

I say Germany doesn't last 5 years. They are going full speed with the Eurabian project.

Samseau, did we have historical incidence when things like that happen to use as reference?

None that I know of. I am not sure if there is a historical parallel but I don't need one here. I just look at the forces arrayed against Germany and conclude the war is over before it has even started.

Female Police Officer stabbed in asylum camp - Copenhagen Denmark

http://news.yahoo.com/danish-policeman-c...38076.html

Quote:Copenhagen (AFP) - Danish police on Tuesday arrested a Palestinian man suspected of stabbing a policeman at the country's largest reception centre for asylum seekers, which had sparked a manhunt in the area.

The officer was critically wounded after being stabbed three times in the stomach, but after surgery his condition was stable.

"The case is being investigated as an attempted homicide," local police said in a statement.

The suspect was a stateless Palestinian man born in 1990 who was about to be deported from the country. It is unclear how long he has spent in Denmark, or where the authorities planned to deport him to.

Earlier in the day a large area had been cordoned off around the former military barracks at Center Sandholm, Denmark's largest facility for asylum seekers, which currently houses around 600 people.

The centre, which lies around 20 kilometres (12 miles) northwest of Copenhagen, receives newly-arrived asylum seekers as well as those who have had their applications rejected and are due to leave the country.

Since Europe's refugee crisis began spilling into Denmark on September 6, at least 17,700 migrants have entered the country, according to police figures, but most have continued to neighbouring Sweden which has a more generous asylum policy.

Over the past three weeks, around 100 people have been applying for asylum each day, the Danish Immigration Service said.

Quote:You can watch some of the videos here:

https://www.facebook.com/pegidaevdresden...084828548/

Lots of these guys are torn between glorification of the GDR and all kinds of conspiracy theory. Back in the late 80ies, most of these guys wanted to leave their country to live the western/capitalistic lifestyle. After facing the hard capitalistic truth, they´re back on the streets screaming "We're the people".

50k ? A joke! I was there. A sorry crowd. There is no nationalist movement in Germany. Not with these guys from Pegida.

This makes the austerity in Greece even more useless. How long until Greek's realize that their haircuts and payments could technically be going to support these Muslim Migrant Freeloaders? How long until German's realize they fucked over a neighboring society, that at some points made serious contributions to Europe/Western Civ, for the benefit of a bunch of white hating, parasites that will never add value to society? Their gov't was complicit in this.

(09-29-2015 11:12 AM)CameraXL Wrote:  

Quote:You can watch some of the videos here:

https://www.facebook.com/pegidaevdresden...084828548/

50k ? A joke! I was there. A sorry crowd. There is no nationalist movement in Germany. Not with these guys from Pegida.

I can confirm that 50k is too much. Even the organisers themselves did only claim 15.-20.000 max.

As to the age, there have been scientific surveys, I think of the Dresden university. It was claimed that the majority of the protestors would be middle-class people among the 40-50 years range. Which means that quite a lot have experiences with the former GDR.

Perhaps this (rightful) distrust in state authority stems from GDR times. Back then, it was obvious that the state abuses its power deliberately.

Nowadays, the dictatorship is more subtle. Many people like to live with it, since the bad things happen the indirect way. And there is still enough entertainment.