In reply to Frekkesen's post:

A large part of the answer, to me, lies in creating and participating in alternative economies which in turn create a base for the alternative nation to rise from. Like any minority group operates inside other nations, you act in tribal associations in spending, creating and funding. This accomplishes creating a culture that you know will vouch in your interests, even if you don't personally know these people.

If you act as a minority group enforcing the benefit of your group in a country that's outwardly claimed to be yours but really promotes a multi-cult order; you help a base for your needs grow over time, you attract more like minded individuals with greater ease and provide the conditions needed for the political birth in the future. You keep the economic behaviors separate from your overt political strategy as to not go the way of the Branch Dravidians-small social organizing that's easily dismantled by the government for it's open rebellion. In the political realm, think of Jack Donovan's Co-Op gym.


This falls into a smaller scheme of how my personal philosophy has been rapidly evolving as of late.

My proposed answer lies in looking at things in the perception of the philosophical economies: the social, the information and the cultural economies.

Intentionally spending and creating for the benefit of tribal means bolsters the financial and cultural economy for you and others. When the wider economy is structured to diffuse and squander our greater aspirations, a synergistic effort provides means to attempt pioneering businesses, militias social organizations, etc. that would've not been possible. Where you live and who you choose to associate with improves your harnessing of the cultural and social economy. Tribal spending also widens the social economy by attracting more pre-selected individuals to be absorbed into your social spheres influence. It's the grass roots basis of the political future. Our sharing of ideas here improves our positions in the information economy and plants seeds for those outside of this sphere who are willing to listen, but after a certain rate of information is shared among this finite group, we begin to stagnate-just as this thread has come to a lull as of recent. Our social and informational economy's depth or ceiling is revealed. In order to increase our capital, we must forge more in raw labor(intellectual reading, skill building and networking). Networking outside of this social sphere will be one of the most critical arenas for success, but is currently under utilized at the moment. I recommend a thread dedicated to direct action or another forum altogether.

After my anti-Milanović comments on two top refugee stories in Croatian media became the most popular, the comment section was mysteriously closed

(09-26-2015 03:53 PM)memcpy Wrote:  Drone footage from Polands anti-immigrant protest:

It was organized by a large Polish Youth Organisation - not a far right group - 27.000 online supporters and thousands of participants. They are about to do it across the entire country in all cities:



http://katowice.naszemiasto.pl/artykul/m...id,tm.html

92% of all readers of the Katowice site above are in support of it according to a survey.

That's more or less correct when I talk to young guys who again talk with others.

The disconnect to the media is massive. The media reported they asked the city whether it would have been possible to forbid it. The city Katowice replied that it is not possible.

So they confined themselves to reporting that guys used torches and ominous Polish flags and that they were surrounded by police forces. Heh - those police forces were very small in comparison to the crowd and the protest was peaceful.

Fuck the media... they are global banking proxies under their full control. At least more and more people are mistrusting them.

I like it. The "refugees" are going to see it too and will do their utmost to not be moved to Poland. Those 12.000 will either keep a very silent profile or simply pack and move back to Western Europe as soon as possible.

Britain first is becoming wildly popular among my military facebook friends. I'm not sure if they know the reputation of the group in the UK or don't care. I wonder how much this sentiment represents the active duty army. Maybe we'll straighten things out here early enough to fight along side Europe. Hope keeps faintly winking at us.

There was an anti-Islamic demonstration in the middle of Wroclaw lately. Wroclaw is one of Poland's more progressive cities.

Politicians will not make a difference.

From the Daily Mail

Quote:Germany in a state of SIEGE: Merkel was cheered when she opened the floodgates to migrants. Now, with gangs of men roaming the streets and young German women being told to cover up, the mood's changing

• Thousands of economic migrants are posing as refugees to reach Europe
• David Cameron said this week that Europe must said failed asylum claimants back to their countries
• Demands for Germany's 'open doors and windows' policy to be scrapped
• Women said rape and child abuse were rife in Giessen's refugee camp
  

Quote:On the busy shopping street in Giessen, a German university town twinned with Winchester, migrant Atif Zahoor tucks into a chicken dish with his brother and cousin at the curry restaurant Chillie To Go.

They have left good jobs back in Karachi, Pakistan, and now want to be Europeans.

Quote:Atif is well-dressed and speaks perfect English. He used to be a transport manager at Karachi airport and is from a well-to-do family. Between mouthfuls of curry, he adds: ‘But there is violence between political gangs in Karachi. Lots of people are leaving for Europe. The trafficker decided that Germany was the place for us because it is welcoming refugees.’

Yet the raw truth is that Atif is not fleeing war or persecution. He is one of thousands of economic migrants getting into Germany as the EU’s immigration crisis grows bigger each day.

Quote:Yesterday, the Mail reported how social workers and women’s groups in Giessen wrote a letter to the local state parliament claiming that rape and child abuse were rife in the refugee camp. The allegations were corroborated by Atif over his curry. ‘The camp is dangerous,’ he agreed. ‘Men of different nationalities fight and women are attacked.’

The letter says the camp, far from being a peaceful haven for those fleeing war, is a dangerous melting-pot, where there have been ‘numerous rapes and sexual assaults, and forced prostitution’.

There are even reports of children being raped and subjected to sexual assault, it adds.

‘Many women have felt the need to sleep in their clothes... they won’t go to the toilet at night because rapes and assaults have taken place on their way to, or from, there. Even in daylight, a walk through the camp is fraught with fear.

Controversially, the letter suggests that in the migrants’ culture, women are viewed differently: ‘It is a fact that women and children are unprotected. This situation is opportune for those men who already regard women as their inferiors and treat unaccompanied women as “fair game”.’

Many migrant women have fled here to escape forced marriages or female genital mutilation, which are rife in some African and Middle Eastern countries. ‘They believe they have found safety in Germany,’ says the letter, ‘and realize it’s not the case.’

Quote:Locals in Giessen are appalled by the rape allegations. But many are also increasingly worried about the effect of the migrants — some 6,000 Syrians, Iraqis, Pakistanis, Kurds, Eritreans and others are housed in the camp, which was expanded last year — on their everyday lives.

Some complain that the migrants have taken over the town, which is famous for its botanical gardens and dotted with pretty boutiques and flower shops. You cannot miss the new arrivals, wandering the streets in large groups.

At the Lidl supermarket a few hundred yards from the camp, a well-dressed German woman packing her shopping into a Mercedes saloon rolls her eyes at me as a group of Middle Eastern youths walk by. ‘What do we do?’ she asks. ‘It has happened now and it will never be the same again.’

Some of the tales being told in Germany may just be xenophobic scaremongering. But there is no doubt that the country is grappling with a major culture clash as migrants pour in at the rate of 100 an hour or more.

At other camps among the 2,000 that have sprung up in Germany, I hear various lurid complaints about the arrivals, 80 per cent of whom are Muslim, single and male.

At a former U.S. military base housing some 2,000 migrants in Bayernkaserne, on the outskirts of Munich, women’s rights groups say there is forced prostitution and rape every day. Men, women and children sleep next to each other in tents and, according to one social worker interviewed on local TV, the camp is ‘the biggest brothel in the city’ where the price for sex with a female migrant is €10 (£7).

Quote:The guards hired from a private company by the German government to provide security at the huge site were found by police to be trafficking drugs, guns and knives among the migrants as well as turning a blind eye to prostitution.

Yards from the camp, I talk to a Somali girl of 18, wearing a hijab. ‘We are scared some nights,’ she says solemnly, clutching her charity clothes in a white plastic bag.

In other parts of the country, Germans are being told to adapt their lifestyles when migrants arrive.

Police in the Bavarian town of Mering, where a 16-year-old girl was reportedly raped this month, have warned parents not to allow their children outside unaccompanied.
Girls and women have been told not to walk home alone from the railway station because it is near a migrant centre where the rapist may live.

At Pocking, another well-kept Bavarian town, the headmaster of the grammar school wrote to parents telling them not to let their daughters wear skimpy clothing. This was to avoid ‘misunderstandings’ with 200 migrants who were put up in the school’s gymnasium over the summer, before being moved on this month.

The letter to parents said the migrants were ‘mainly Muslim, and speak Arabic. They have their own culture. Because our school is directly next to where they are staying, modest clothing should be warn... revealing tops or blouses, short skirts or miniskirts could lead to misunderstandings.

Quote:A 19-year-old waitress at a coffee bar in the town tells me: ‘We saw them [the migrants] walking around and they saw us. Of course, we were worried. We were told to be extra careful when they were here.’

A local politician, who refuses to be named, is quoted in Die Welt, one of the most respected German newspapers: ‘These Muslim teenage boys come from a culture where for women it is frowned upon to show naked skin.

'They will follow girls and bother them without realising it is not acceptable. Naturally, their behaviour generates fear.’

At yet another migrant camp in Detmold, a city in central Germany, a 13-year-old Muslim girl was raped by a fellow migrant. The child and her mother had fled to Europe to escape a ‘culture of sexual violence’ in their own country.

Astonishingly, police kept silent about the rape, which took place in June. Only this month, after a local newspaper revealed that it had happened — and claimed German authorities are not ‘going public’ about crimes involving migrants because they don’t want to ‘give legitimacy’ to critics of mass migration — did they confirm it had taken place.

The area’s police chief, Bernd Flake, insists the official silence was meant to protect the rape victim. But he adds: ‘We will continue this policy (of not informing the public) whenever crimes are committed in migrant facilities.’

Quote:Meanwhile, the migrants keep arriving. Many have deliberately thrown away their passports on their journey through Europe, so they can pretend to be Syrian refugees rather than economic migrants.

The authorities, now being urged by both the EU and Germany’s leaders to return those who aren’t genuine, are completely overwhelmed.

At Freilassing, on the border with Austria, I see hundreds of migrants waiting in teeming rain to reach Mrs Merkel’s promised land. Wrapped in see-through charity macs, they queue excitedly for soup. Most have travelled for weeks, from Turkey by boat to Greece, then via Macedonia, Serbia and Croatia to Austria.

Quote:‘When I lost my job, I set out with six friends,’ he says. ‘There is every nation in the camp — a lot from Pakistan, like me. I chose Germany because they want us here.’

I dare not tell Ali this is not entirely true. Unless he is lucky, he won’t be given refugee status, as he is an economic migrant.

It is the same story when I meet Janaid Jamshad, a 25-year-old former student.

Also from Lahore, he has been here for ten days. ‘I came to Germany first in 2013 and they pushed me out again,’ he says with a laugh. ‘I came back when I heard Mrs Merkel was opening the doors. I have claimed asylum and they are processing my application. Because I am young, I hope they will take me.’

Not that everything is rosy for him now. ‘The camp is overflowing,’ he says. ‘I have just been to the doctor in the shopping centre because I have a headache. Even there, there are queues of migrants waiting. The doctors at the camp will only give one pill at a time. So we find other places for medical help, and pay for it.’

Back in the Giessen curry house, I continue talking to asylum claimant Atif. ‘We think having children will help us,’ he says. ‘Our house is very big, and they give us money, too.’

I point out that Karachi, despite the political violence there, is not in a war zone.

He still hopes to persuade the authorities he is a genuine refugee, though, and hopes he won’t be returned to Pakistan because he now has no official national identity — in a deal with the smuggling gang, he handed them his own passport and those of his family when they arrived in Germany. They were the ‘payment’ in exchange for the family’s fake visas and will be used again to smuggle more customers into Europe.

‘My children deserve a better life than in Pakistan,’ says Atif. ‘They will grow up happy in Germany.’

Some key ideas to take note of:

• As I said before, Europe is now awake or is in the process of waking up from liberal utopia dream that was destined to fail. There is still hope for Europe.
• Diversity never works.
• The average migrant might be tougher than the average European, but he is just as delusional and stupid.
• The rise in fear amongst native European women will probably lead to the return of patriarchy. Feminism might end soon.
• The current elites have no control over the migrants and are slowly losing control over the native population. Their reign of power is coming to an end.
  

Ukrainian woman fluent in Arabic talks about migrants casually discussing whether or not to rape her on a train.






Religion of peace, diversity is our strength, etc.

Orban speaks for the people - And i'm sure he knows he has the support of many Europeans, both in the west and east.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnew...alism.html

Quote:Hungary has defended its opposition to Brussels' plans for compulsory migrant quotas, saying it did not wish to repeat the West's "failed experiments" in multiculturalism.

In a defiant rejection of diktats from Europe's high command, the country's right-wing government said it was not interested in "lectures" from the European Union about taking in Middle Eastern refugees.

Frans Timmermans, the Dutch vice-president of the European Commission, said that "diversity was the future of the world," and that Eastern European nations would just have to "get used to that."

In an interview with The Sunday Telegraph, Mr Orban's spokesman, Zoltán Kovács, responded by saying that integration in much of Western Europe had been at best a limited success. Hungary, he said, felt neither the wish nor the obligation to follow suit.

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Just a question to guys here.

Do you want none of this cultural invasion? Or would you prefer it to stay a while and destroy the feminist and welfare utopia that is eroding the insides of the US and EU?

(09-26-2015 08:46 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  Just a question to guys here.

Do you want none of this cultural invasion? Or would you prefer it to stay a while and destroy the feminist and welfare utopia that is eroding the insides of the US and EU?

I'll take continued feminism over a potentially disastrous islamic invasion any day. As for the so called welfare utopia - whether you're taking about tax funded healthcare and education, or various unemployment benefits - I've benefited from that at many times or through periods of my life (in my original country) so I'm not one to complain about that (more than the common grumblings about high income taxes) , and I don't think it's necessarily too high a burden on a society when it's not being stressed past the breaking point - like during an islamic invasion for instance.

(09-26-2015 08:46 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  Just a question to guys here.

Do you want none of this cultural invasion? Or would you prefer it to stay a while and destroy the feminist and welfare utopia that is eroding the insides of the US and EU?

It's a tough choice for sure.

But if it's between a "Brave New World" progressive future or a moderate/conservative Islamic society, i'll go with the Muslims.

I'm a traditional Social conservative so i'll have more in common with them, than the deviants currently in control of the west.

Why do so many of the migrants claim to have engineering degrees?

Even before this I've met plenty of them..

Can change Iphone battery = Electrical engineer 8 year degree from university of Damascus.

(09-26-2015 10:06 PM)uncledick Wrote:  It's a tough choice for sure.

But if it's between a "Brave New World" progressive future or a moderate/conservative Islamic society, i'll go with the Muslims.

I'm a traditional Social conservative so i'll have more in common with them, than the deviants currently in control of the west.

Brave New World is by far superior to a Sharia world set in the Middle Ages. At least you don't have to be re-creating the world from the stone age again.

Fast Eddie - banking utterly destroyed the Japanese economy and they are still recovering from the 1990s crisis. Also who told you that they are owning it themselves - the state debt is owned by Japanese, but the banks majority shares?

The essential ownership structure across the globe is pretty uniform with minor fluctuations.

Usury and fractional reserve banking is at the center of it all - it is simply a force that is able to accumulate almost all the wealth in the hands of a few - given enough time. And it has been given now centuries. Also - it's a mathematical impossibility to pay back the debts which necessities wars and total annihilation of currencies once every few decades.

The current baby is Satanic and swims in sulfur. You have to throw it away and put in a new healthy baby in the water - meaning interest free money creation and banks operating under a full reserve system just facilitating transactions and not having such a power as to be able to own the entire planet.

(09-26-2015 10:13 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  Why do so many of the migrants claim to have engineering degrees?

Even before this I've met plenty of them..

Can change Iphone battery = Electrical engineer 8 year degree from university of Damascus.

It's widely known that most people educated outside western countries may hold engineering credentials, but at best, their degrees are the equivalent of an associates degree in the US from a so-so community college.

(09-26-2015 03:04 PM)UncleSam Wrote:  "The Elite" is taking further steps to control the narrative:

Merkel Confronts Facebook's Zuckerberg Over Policing Hate Posts

Quote:German Chancellor Angela Merkel confronted Facebook Inc. Chief Executive Officer Mark Zuckerberg on how his company is progressing in efforts to curtail racist posts, after her government complained the social network wasn’t doing enough to crack down on recent xenophobic outbursts.

Attending a luncheon on the sidelines of a United Nations development summit in New York on Saturday, Merkel and Zuckerberg were overheard on a live transmission broadcast on the UN website as participants took their seats.

After Merkel briefly queried Zuckerberg about the hate-post affair, the Facebook CEO is heard responding that “we need to do some work” on the issue.

“Are you working on this?” Merkel asked in English. “Yeah,” Zuckerberg responded, before the dialog was cut off by introductory remarks to those present.

Zuckerberg is a Bilderberger member now. There is of course, a reason for this.

Honestly it sounds like zuck is resisting.

Remember he is very much nouveaux riche.

Yesterday 9200 invaders arrived at the Hungarian border. The number are constantly between 9000 and 11000 in the last 2 weeks. That is 30,0000 invader a month, almost 1 million in 3 month, and 4 million in a year.

How many people until German welfare state collapses experiment will soon have the results.

(09-26-2015 08:46 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  Just a question to guys here.

Do you want none of this cultural invasion? Or would you prefer it to stay a while and destroy the feminist and welfare utopia that is eroding the insides of the US and EU?

A lesson from history tells us that if a group invites or allows an outside group into its land to help it deal with an internal issue, the outside group will become stronger than the two warring internal groups combined.

Churchill invites the Americans into Europe to fight Germany: Where is the British Empire and traditional European geopolitical power now? Somewhere in Washington DC where diktats on de-nationalisation originate.

One of the competing Irish clans invited the Normans to help it fight the other clans and still today Ireland's upper tier has French surnames like in the rest of the British Isles.

I could go on and on.

You are also assuming that feminists are against the invasion of 'soulmates' and 'future spouses'.

(09-26-2015 10:06 PM)uncledick Wrote:  

(09-26-2015 08:46 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  Just a question to guys here.

Do you want none of this cultural invasion? Or would you prefer it to stay a while and destroy the feminist and welfare utopia that is eroding the insides of the US and EU?

It's a tough choice for sure.

But if it's between a "Brave New World" progressive future or a moderate/conservative Islamic society, i'll go with the Muslims.

I'm a traditional Social conservative so i'll have more in common with them, than the deviants currently in control of the west.

Sounds like you'd have liked Libya and Syria before they were bombed to pieces by Western 'progressives' which unleashed its Jihad assets against them.

Moderate Muslims are as much of a target than traditional Christian or secular Europeans.

War of the Worlds: The Eve of the War Wrote:No one could have dreamed we were being scrutinized, as someone with a microscope
studies creatures that swarm and multiply in a drop of water. Few men even considered
the possibility of life on other planets and yet, across the gulf of space, minds
immeasurably superior to ours regarded this Earth with envious eyes, and slowly and
surely, they drew their plans against us.

Forever Autumn Wrote:JOURNALIST: For three days I fought my way along roads packed with
refugees, the homeless, burdened with boxes and bundles containing their valuables.
All that was of value to me was in London, but by the time I reached their little
red-brick house, Carrie and her father were gone.

The Spirit of Man Wrote:There must be something worth living for,
There must be something worth trying for,
Even some things worth dying for,
And if one man can stand tall,
There must be hope for us all,
Somewhere, somewhere in the spirit of man.

(09-27-2015 02:16 AM)N°6 Wrote:  Sounds like you'd have liked Libya and Syria before they were bombed to pieces by Western 'progressives' which unleashed its Jihad assets against them.

Moderate Muslims are as much of a target than traditional Christian or secular Europeans.

They are and militant Islamists always want to take power and go back to the stone age.

Essentially Libya, Syria and even Iraq were secular states that battled non-stop against militant Islam. I knew guys who grew up in Iraq in the 1970s until early 1980s and they described Baghdad as a wonderful place to live in (spent their childhood in Baghdad). Many Westerners enjoyed their life there with their families. Personally I would not call those countries even Muslim countries since the government was secular. Some Middle Easterners do understand that little tidbit. The "reform" of Islam is to push it back and limit it to the religious function - and even then support mainly the good sides of it.

Rulers like Gaddafi, Assad or the king of Jordan understood that contrary to Western moronic liberals who think that "letting them be" is going to work out via magic.

I notice a lot of that magical thinking with Ex-Muslims. They think they can debate and reason the maladies away.