I don't get those of you who claim 'woe is me, Europe is lost'. It certainly isn't. There is nothing in history to prove your point. Europe will change for sure. The West is decadent, weak and degenerate. The East is young, strong and has the will to power.
I am fine with collateral damage taking out leftists and traitors first. These people lack proper risk avoidance genetics and will therefore feel the consequences first and hardest. These last 5 or so years have really proven without a doubt what a destructive, selfish and ugly influence leftists are. I do not feel sympathy for them. They are destroyers.
Europe will certainly change, what definitely won't happen is that it becomes muslim or third world.
(09-26-2015 09:46 AM)iknowexactly Wrote: Don't howl about liberalism, it's what lets you post whatever you want here.
That's true.
However, liberalism paved the road for Marxism, Cultural Marxism, communism, socialism, multiculturalism, and feminism.
It also played an important in the development of the loss of culture, heritage, and tradition in the West, incompetent governments ruled by inept politicians who's main goal is popularity, the destruction of the family unit, proliferation of sluts and weak men, the rise of globalist elites and corporations whose only goal is money, political correctness, and the real possibility of the complete and total eradication of Western Civilization.
(09-26-2015 10:10 AM)nomadbrah Wrote: South Africa? Bangladesh? Nope, slum town in Malmo, Sweden.
But, but, I thought that shanty towns existed because of South African Apartheid? What the blazes is Sweden which funded the ANC and South African Communist Party doing with them?*
(09-26-2015 10:24 AM)nomadbrah Wrote: Europe will certainly change, what definitely won't happen is that it becomes muslim or third world.
At what point would you consider it lost then? It seems like for you it might be when Muslims make the majority vote and start trying to change fundamental laws of society.
I think it may be lost much before that. In the same sense America has been lost in a way. America used to be if you worked hard and integrated you as a man could raise a family of 3 or 4 children if you chose and have a stay at home wife without much worry.
That is very hard nowadays for most middle class people even on two good salaries and choosing only to have two kids. Therefore I would say America has been lost and is only trekking deeper into the forest as we speak.
Most people that have 3 or 4 kids in America are now lower class Mexican immigrant families that pile 8 people into a 2 BR apartment. That is all well and fine, America though worked to get past that stage in the average citizen's lifestyle probably back somewhere in the 1940's or earlier.
I'd be suspicious of this source... there's already enough legitimate ammo against the migrants and cuck authorities, we don't need to resort to fakes.
(09-26-2015 10:10 AM)nomadbrah Wrote: South Africa? Bangladesh? Nope, slum town in Malmo, Sweden.
Shanti towns will be on the uptick. The reason for this is simply the fact that the authorities won't give everyone refugee status. Many - probably hundreds of thousands or millions across Europe will be trying to avoid deportation by living off the grid. (Plus you have the ever popular gypsies moving there.)
In Spain and Italy they are already replacing Eastern European agricultural workers and doing back-breaking labor for 1 EUR/hour. So far hiring illegals is punishable by law in the EU (heavy fines), so companies are generally avoiding it. It's not as crazy as in the US, where companies can keep any slave labor and if the slaves are found, then they are deported and the corporation hires the next batch of illegals.
10 Algerians attacked a couple of black immigrant Christians - Eritreans. We shouldn't forget that many central African blacks are Christians and it seems that many Muslims are even less tolerant when they see a Middle Eastern or Black being Christian.
The Algerians threw insults at the Eritreans. Then a fight broke out and one Algerian started hitting the Eritrean repeatedly with a glass bottle. Also his pregnant wife was beaten by the glorious desert warriors. Then as the police approached the enriching migrants disappeared.
But the funny thing is that the police arrested the Eritrean since he "behaved aggressively" - probably could not calm down due to his woman being beaten - which is understandable. So the 10 soul mates got away and the victim was taken into custody.
Germany sounds like great multi-kulti fun now.
Quote:Roosh [email protected] 4 hrs4 hours ago
Strobe Talbott was a close friend of Bill Clinton and an adviser in his administration. The globalist rot runs deep.
I wonder how those buggers have "foreseen" what would happen. If politics was random then they might have assumed that some countries would behave like Japan towards migrants. But somehow they were sure that nation states would "disappear".
I'd be suspicious of this source... there's already enough legitimate ammo against the migrants and cuck authorities, we don't need to resort to fakes.
It looks like it was. Quick search brings up original photo.
(09-26-2015 10:24 AM)nomadbrah Wrote: Europe will certainly change, what definitely won't happen is that it becomes muslim or third world.
At what point would you consider it lost then? It seems like for you it might be when Muslims make the majority vote and start trying to change fundamental laws of society.
I think it may be lost much before that. In the same sense America has been lost in a way. America used to be if you worked hard and integrated you as a man could raise a family of 3 or 4 children if you chose and have a stay at home wife without much worry.
That is very hard nowadays for most middle class people even on two good salaries and choosing only to have two kids. Therefore I would say America has been lost and is only trekking deeper into the forest as we speak.
Most people that have 3 or 4 kids in America are now lower class Mexican immigrant families that pile 8 people into a 2 BR apartment. That is all well and fine, America though worked to get past that stage in the average citizen's lifestyle probably back somewhere in the 1940's or earlier.
I've never known a Europe without the muslim problem. They caused a lot of problems when I was a kid too. They have been there as long as I recall. Sadly, the Europe before mass immigration has never existed for me, likewise white women without feminism and 'you go girl'. It's sad but what can you do, I do not see these last 20 years of Western society worth saving. It is not something I will fight for.
Something new will come from the struggle and ashes and it can only be better since our generation will have a say in it. I have found almost everything I want in Eastern Europe and Asia. I knew it already the first time I dated a Polish girl long before finding the manosphere.
Salvation will have to come from Eastern Europe. I am sure Italians and Greeks wish they could get their glory days back but it is over, just like the heritage from Rome moved to Germany with Charlemagne, likewise will the heritage of Charlemagne move to Poland, Hungary, Czech.
I will still do my part when anything can actually be done, but it is imperative that the corrupt leftist welfare states die. It can't be avoided.
(09-26-2015 10:24 AM)nomadbrah Wrote: Europe will certainly change, what definitely won't happen is that it becomes muslim or third world.
At what point would you consider it lost then? It seems like for you it might be when Muslims make the majority vote and start trying to change fundamental laws of society.
I think it may be lost much before that. In the same sense America has been lost in a way. America used to be if you worked hard and integrated you as a man could raise a family of 3 or 4 children if you chose and have a stay at home wife without much worry.
That is very hard nowadays for most middle class people even on two good salaries and choosing only to have two kids. Therefore I would say America has been lost and is only trekking deeper into the forest as we speak.
Most people that have 3 or 4 kids in America are now lower class Mexican immigrant families that pile 8 people into a 2 BR apartment. That is all well and fine, America though worked to get past that stage in the average citizen's lifestyle probably back somewhere in the 1940's or earlier.
I've never known a Europe without the muslim problem. They caused a lot of problems when I was a kid too. They have been there as long as I recall. Sadly, the Europe before mass immigration has never existed for me, likewise white women without feminism and 'you go girl'. It's sad but what can you do, I do not see these last 20 years of Western society worth saving. It is not something I will fight for.
Something new will come from the struggle and ashes and it can only be better since our generation will have a say in it. I have found almost everything I want in Eastern Europe and Asia. I knew it already the first time I dated a Polish girl long before finding the manosphere.
Salvation will have to come from Eastern Europe. I am sure Italians and Greeks wish they could get their glory days back but it is over, just like the heritage from Rome moved to Germany with Charlemagne, likewise will the heritage of Charlemagne move to Poland, Hungary, Czech.
I will still do my part when anything can actually be done, but it is imperative that the corrupt leftist welfare states die. It can't be avoided.
It's pretty naïve to think that a few Eastern European states are going to stand up to the pressure Western Europe will exert on them through economical and societal means.
If they had Russia in their corner, maybe they could retain their identities, but that partnership ain't ever going to happen.
A guy currently living in the Bronx interviews an American who immigrated to Norway about 8 years ago and opened up his own MMA academy along with the American's two Norwegian MMA students. The Bronx guy asks about how immigration has changed the face of Norwegian society. This is a first-person source so of interest to me.
(09-26-2015 10:24 AM)nomadbrah Wrote: I am fine with collateral damage taking out leftists and traitors first. These people lack proper risk avoidance genetics and will therefore feel the consequences first and hardest. These last 5 or so years have really proven without a doubt what a destructive, selfish and ugly influence leftists are. I do not feel sympathy for them. They are destroyers.
That article might have been taken down. Here is the cached version.
I have already started monthly financial support to one of the alternative media-sources in Norway. They focus on the problems related to Islam and immigration, and they are steadily growing. Now the leftist are suggesting to cut funding them through the county-budget. If that actually happens I will up my contribution even more. One thing is for sure, you need someone full-time on debating the PC-media and also provide quality sources to write articles. We are still many years away to find big demonstrations against Islamists and immigration here in Norway, and the only serious podium to bring it up will be through discussions in social media/forums/online.
Quote:German Chancellor Angela Merkel confronted Facebook Inc. Chief Executive Officer Mark Zuckerberg on how his company is progressing in efforts to curtail racist posts, after her government complained the social network wasn’t doing enough to crack down on recent xenophobic outbursts.
Attending a luncheon on the sidelines of a United Nations development summit in New York on Saturday, Merkel and Zuckerberg were overheard on a live transmission broadcast on the UN website as participants took their seats.
After Merkel briefly queried Zuckerberg about the hate-post affair, the Facebook CEO is heard responding that “we need to do some work” on the issue.
“Are you working on this?” Merkel asked in English. “Yeah,” Zuckerberg responded, before the dialog was cut off by introductory remarks to those present.
(09-26-2015 02:27 PM)Wutang Wrote: Long video but worth watching
A guy currently living in the Bronx interviews an American who immigrated to Norway about 8 years ago and opened up his own MMA academy along with the American's two Norwegian MMA students. The Bronx guy asks about how immigration has changed the face of Norwegian society. This is a first-person source so of interest to me.
Great video, but it's hard to find sympathy for people gushing out with pride about how wonderful it's been to make women so "equal" and provide all sorts of "free" social benefits to the masses when this is the exact root of their current situation. They created the pile of shit that's now attracted the flies - what else did they think would happen?
The idea that government pays for this-and-that is dishonest on its face. Government doesn't pay for anything with money not first taken by force from someone who actually produced value. These socialist transfer artists went on for decades after WW2 blowing (forcibly confiscated) money on ridiculously generous social programs while the US paid the freight for their safety during the cold war. Scandinavian men saw their roles as producers and providers reduced by government mandate while their domestic employers did everything possible to mitigate losses from operating costs. Twat-centric social policy looked like it worked for a while but it was riding an artificial wave and leaving the doors open for anyone who wanted to participate, such as the current crop of "refugees."
We're seeing similar things in the US, except diverted cash is not going so much to mass social programs (though we still have ones we cannot afford), it's going into the pockets of billionaire twats l like Zuckerberg via the H1B program.
Nice vid about Muslims in Belgium - Brussels - the center of the snake surrounding itself with multi-kulti:
Good points made there:
+ Sharia is Islam and there is no separation of that according to this one cleric (we can discuss that since there are some countries which are more moderate) - by the way - a recent survey among US Muslims showed that 51% were for Shariah law at least replacing US law for Muslims. When they are in the majority the same guys will likely not fight against extremists demanding Shariah law for everyone - even if 49% are not Muslims and the Constitution is completely contrary to it. https://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/...iah-jihad/
+ Islam is a fascist ideology that has religion as an added point in it which makes it more dangerous than fascism or communism
Well - cannot argue with that really, since Mohammed made it up partly as he went along during his conquest. That's what happens when you base a religion on the statements of a conqueror and not a saint or at least spiritual leader first.