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Libertas · 2015-09-15 12:56:00 · #1326
Well said, quino, but we also have to keep in mind that modern mainstream conservatism is also liberalism (hence the recent term "cuckservative"), with a few different assumptions here and there, but all the important ones (ie: globalism) remain the same.

I am working on a project exposing the history of Year Zero movements, of which the one we face is a long descendant of. This shit actually goes back quite a long time. Hopefully I can have it out by next year.
Glaucon · 2015-09-15 12:59:00 · #1327
"Moroccan Merouance Missaoua lives and works in Vienna. In his free time, he interprets for refugees at the Westbahnhof. He is convinced that many allegedly Syrian refugees are actually from Algeria, Egypt or Morocco. Is this just an opportune moment to come to Europe?

Vienna’s western railroad station is the last stage of a long trip to Germany for thousands of refugees. Merouane Missoua has worked in Vienna for years. He has taken time off and has spent days as a volunteer interpreter for refugees from Syria, helping them to find a place to sleep for the night, or to find the right train to Munich or Passau.

“I come almost every day — every day when I can, to help these people.”

Germany’s actions are absolutely commendable, he says, “but you also have to see the dark side.” Many represent themselves as Syrians:

“In all honesty — I believe, it is my personal estimate, because I have been here day in and day out, that a quarter of the people I have met are not refugees. I have met people from Morocco and from Algeria. I can discover that, because I speak their dialect too and I recognize the accent immediately. Yesterday, for example, two Egyptians came to me. I said to them: You are not Syrian; what are you doing? — Yes, it’s now or never, get into Europe free. It’s now or never.”"


http://gatesofvienna.net/2015/09/its-now...rope-free/
iop890 · 2015-09-15 13:01:00 · #1328
(09-15-2015 09:47 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  Fuck - Finland will be gone soon. The last country with little immigration, sensible gender ratios is being destroyed. I am certain that Sweden will relay as many as possible to Finland, since Norway has real borders and it won't be so easy to pass.

Finland was somewhat of a secret tip for international Players, but that is about to change fast. Never mind that the economic situation was becoming worse especially for young people. That is a given fact, but at least the gender ratios were not bad. After importing 100.000+ of young males the situation will go Malmo soon. When the media talks of 12.000, then you must add a zero to it. It's like a girl telling you her mentally decreased notch count.

Why is Finland just allowing Sweden to dump their trash over the border? You'd think as soon as Sverige started filling up trains and sending them over the Finns would have gotten the picture.

(09-15-2015 07:41 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  [Image: 794a8a85e66d1533675b7bc11adcefb9f73bb489.jpg]

Speaking of Finns, she looks just like a Finnish girl I knew in Bkk. Are there a lot of ethnic Finns in Denmark?
WalterBlack · 2015-09-15 13:01:00 · #1329
(09-15-2015 05:53 AM)CrashBangWallop Wrote:  
(09-15-2015 01:04 AM)dreambig Wrote:  
(09-14-2015 11:58 PM)N°6 Wrote:  However when we look at a map of migration within the EU, we see something about the UK that Farage is strangely silent about:

[Image: immigrants-origin.jpg]

A few facts about India:

* It is the second most populated country on Earth;
* One-sixth of the world's population lives here;
* Its population surpassed one billion in 1998;
* It is projected to surpass China as the world's most populated country by 2025;
* More than 50% of its population is under 25 (65% below 35)
* Immigration to the UK is mostly from India

What's your point? There is no "Indian problem" in the UK.

Our problems started when the Pakistanis took over the mass immigration game. Many of these people are welfare leeches and cause tons of (highly predictable) problems by aggressively attempting to enforce their religion on everyone.

I'd take the hard-working and often highly educated Indian immigrants over Pakistanis, Somalians and Arabs. Every time.

Historically, Britain has taken the cream of the crop when it comes to Indian immigrants. The vast majority integrate into society, are ambitious, extremely entrepreneurial and so on. Sure, no nationality is perfect, but Indians are mostly model immigrants. And I'm sure they are just as pissed off as we are about what is happening. Not least because they get the blame for what Pakistanis are doing.

Europeans aren't against all immigrants. We are against the creeping islamification of our continent. That is what concerns us.

We need to stop all islamic immigration NOW with very few exceptions.

Well said.

There really is nothing negative to be said about Indian immigrants to the UK. They are hard working, respectful, well educated, fun guys and girls. I'd happily have as many as wanted to come here with that attitude, to be honest.

Their presence here has been universally positive. I am happy to call many Indians my close friends. (Nobody who hasn't been on a night out with higher class Indians, let alone those crazy Sikh motherfuckers, can call themselves a party animal!).

As you say, our problem is Islam and its peasants that have filled most of our cities.

British Indian here:

Quoting myself from another thread
(04-24-2015 12:35 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:  UK Indians have been living in UK in large numbers for 50 years now, and they:
  • Have almost zero ethnic tension with the white population
  • Don’t make their religions an issue with anybody
  • Are very entrepreneurial
  • Are highly educated
  • Have above average income
  • Have very low unemployment rate
  • Have very low percentage on welfare
  • Have a high marriage rate, and low level of divorce
  • Have a very low percentage of single mothers.
  • Very low percentage of illegitimate kids. Most kids are born to married parents.
  • Have very strong family values
  • Have a very low level of criminality
  • Have a very low percentage of prison population
  • Have a very low level of drug abuse issues

All of my close family is in the UK and they’re totally against immigration too. They think UK is full and there’s no room for any more people. When my dad arrived in UK in the 1960s job were everywhere, it's not like that now.

It’s considered a disgrace in Indian culture to be on welfare so most Indians try to work for a living.
Turkish Republican · 2015-09-15 13:05:00 · #1330
I don't think Indians are held in very high regard in the anglosphere world. The best way to gauge your value in the international market is to look at how many countries you can travel to visa free.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_requi...n_citizens

Nearly all countries require a visa for Indian citizens.

This is how the world looks at them.
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iop890 · 2015-09-15 13:11:00 · #1331
(09-15-2015 11:13 AM)Dan Woolf Wrote:  [Image: q29ZEk0.jpg]

This is Olle. He's a Swedish man helping the asylum seekers in Luleå to get to Finland.

He probably doesn't understand the irony of serving bananas to African men.

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rudebwoy · 2015-09-15 13:33:00 · #1332
(09-15-2015 01:07 AM)TonySandos Wrote:  Watch the documentary "Tell me and I will Forget" about South Africa if you don't believe it's an utter hellhole now. I have Nigerian friends vouch for this evidence and a few South Africans corroborate it as well.

The South Africa point was debunked, then it moved to Haiti. Most don't have interest in defending existence and rights in a thread plainly stated about the survival of Europe. Debate whether whites are a demon race that deserves to be extinguished or not can be discussed in your other favorite threads, Vice. There's plenty of places available for that brand of talk since there's hardly escape left from it anymore.

So people not trusting all sources and one-sided depictions of evil, white colonialism at face value bothers you? Well, since the early decades of the last century you had infamous communist writers blatantly state that false information should be published and sold as fact in order to degrade certain greater cultures...
So leave us in peace.

The information that was sprouted about Haiti was incorrect, I stated with a source what the reality was.

South Africa has always been a shithole for most of the people living there, so I wouldn't say it was debunked. If you think that place was utopia during Apartheid then I feel sorry for you. It might have been utopia for the small "minority" of white folks, which I guess you have no problem with.

The migrants are mostly Syrian, the stats have shown that. From the look of them a lot can pass for Southern Europeans, but we know they aren't heading for that region.
TheWastelander · 2015-09-15 14:37:00 · #1333
One of the arguments that annoys me is the one you occasionally see made by leftists and cucked conservatives which basically states that since the native population isn't reproducing beyond replacement levels that we need to import foreigners to maintain things. Why is a period of constant growth necessary? To keep the government as large as possible and endlessly expanding? To feed the shallow consumerist culture?

I actually see a lot of benefit to downscaling things. A smaller government, cheaper housing, and one less fucking 7-11 or McDonald's on every corner would be a godsend. It's also something I think would eventually correct itself because people are social animals who would likely gather together and develop more meaningful relationships. Those inclined to breed more than average would do so and things would get back to the same level in a few generations.
MikeS · 2015-09-15 14:46:00 · #1334
(09-15-2015 01:01 PM)iop890 Wrote:  
(09-15-2015 09:47 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  Fuck - Finland will be gone soon. The last country with little immigration, sensible gender ratios is being destroyed. I am certain that Sweden will relay as many as possible to Finland, since Norway has real borders and it won't be so easy to pass.

Finland was somewhat of a secret tip for international Players, but that is about to change fast. Never mind that the economic situation was becoming worse especially for young people. That is a given fact, but at least the gender ratios were not bad. After importing 100.000+ of young males the situation will go Malmo soon. When the media talks of 12.000, then you must add a zero to it. It's like a girl telling you her mentally decreased notch count.

Why is Finland just allowing Sweden to dump their trash over the border? You'd think as soon as Sverige started filling up trains and sending them over the Finns would have gotten the picture.

(09-15-2015 07:41 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  [Image: 794a8a85e66d1533675b7bc11adcefb9f73bb489.jpg]

Speaking of Finns, she looks just like a Finnish girl I knew in Bkk. Are there a lot of ethnic Finns in Denmark?

Not as far as I know. While the last name of that matricidal psycho girl is not a common Danish last name, the mother's last name is Danish.
I was surprised to see that it happened in a small village (less than 500 people) I've been through many times in my life, only around 15 km from the town where I grew up.
Going strong · 2015-09-15 14:52:00 · #1335
(09-15-2015 01:33 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  
(09-15-2015 01:07 AM)TonySandos Wrote:  Watch the documentary "Tell me and I will Forget" about South Africa if you don't believe it's an utter hellhole now. I have Nigerian friends vouch for this evidence and a few South Africans corroborate it as well.

The South Africa point was debunked, then it moved to Haiti. Most don't have interest in defending existence and rights in a thread plainly stated about the survival of Europe. Debate whether whites are a demon race that deserves to be extinguished or not can be discussed in your other favorite threads, Vice. There's plenty of places available for that brand of talk since there's hardly escape left from it anymore.

So people not trusting all sources and one-sided depictions of evil, white colonialism at face value bothers you? Well, since the early decades of the last century you had infamous communist writers blatantly state that false information should be published and sold as fact in order to degrade certain greater cultures...
So leave us in peace.

The information that was sprouted about Haiti was incorrect, I stated with a source what the reality was.

I explained ( https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-50253...pid1110933 ) that Haiti was brutally "stolen" and completely overtaken by Blacks - after having previously been brutally "stolen" and colonized by (first-wave French immigrants) Whites.

The real victims being the genuine, legitimate inhabitants of Haiti (the Arawak Amerindians). (It was to highlight the fact that every race sometimes invade and hurt other races, a sad fact of life and History).

Then you replied (https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-50253...pid1111125 ) by describing a long and colorful list of (alleged) extreme tortures used by "cruel Spaniards", who "poured Taino people full of boiling soap" in Santo Domingo...

How is your answer proving me wrong and "incorrect" on Haiti?

I mean, you can describe me the various ingenuous and disgusting tortures the "bad" Spaniards (allegedly) did to Amerindians, and I can describe you the various ingenuous and disgusting tortures the "bad" Blacks (allegedly, but they sure did it!) did to French farmers and women in Haiti, under the orders of blood-thirsty Toussaint L'Ouverture... and? I guess we both are right... That was my point: all races can and did commit huge crimes dictated by racism.

Anyway, I bet 99% of you never heard of this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1804_Haiti_massacre

... because mainstream media, and Hollywood, and SJW schoolteachers, never speak about that genocide... for, a genocide of Whites (and mixed-blood people) by Blacks, do not deserve any Hollywood movie, or media time, right?...

"1804 Haiti massacre was a genocidal massacre carried out against the remaining white population of French Creoles (or Franco-Haitians) in Haiti by the black population on the order of Jean-Jacques Dessalines ....

The massacre, which took place in the entire territory of Haiti, was carried out from early February 1804 until 22 April 1804, and resulted in the deaths of between 3,000 to 5,000 people of all ages and genders.

Squads of soldiers moved from house to house, torturing and killing entire families. Even whites who had been friendly and sympathetic to the black population were imprisoned and later killed. A second wave of massacres targeted white women and children." Confused
rudebwoy · 2015-09-15 15:03:00 · #1336
^You do realize Haiti and Dominican Republic was one country called Hispanola!

Didn't that not come up in your google search.

To my point of course you have to use the word allegedly twice, like somehow you don't believe it took place. My reference was actually first hand descriptions by the Spanish missionary, I can post more reference points.
Eskhander · 2015-09-15 15:44:00 · #1337
I disagree with some people's criticisms of Farage. He campaigned on immigration depressing wages.

He supports highly skilled immigration only. One can argue that's not much better. Maybe it isn't but I'm currently reading (well okay, after I get back tomorrow I will be reading) some papers purporting that highly intelligent immigrants do improve GDP per capita.

He's also very much pro-nation state and anti-EU. He could still be a globalist in other ways but I don't see them.

And while he does not bash Indians, frankly that's probably because they are brown (therefore protected) and culturally amenable (remember, these are Brahmin). After hearing a lot of his speeches it seems pretty clear he is using dogwhistles to hide anything too racialist. A little known fact about him is that as a kid he had "far right tendencies and beliefs."

At the very least, his reasons for preferring Commonwealth immigration are due to a genuine civic nationalism as they have much greater ties with Britain than the continent does.

But my criticism still remains, unlike Trump he does try to avoid being called racist. Which is a weakness.
AnonymousBosch · 2015-09-15 15:53:00 · #1338
(09-15-2015 12:16 PM)Travesty Wrote:  That is a drain for everyone. I'd rather have a country and economy where high school and college students can find low skill jobs with higher wages so they can pay for their own tuition easier or even start investing in a business sooner rather than compete constantly for scrap wages.

Those high school and college students have been brainwashed since birth into believing they're Special Snowflakes and think those low skill jobs are beneath them. They would never vocalise it publicly, but behind every Leftist Multiculturalism Flag Waver is one motivating thought: "Someone has to clean the toilets, and I'm too good for that." If you've heard SJW's speaking, they always overestimate both their abilities and intelligence: they're arrogant and lack any kind of humility.

Even when these White Kids enter the workplace, they don't want to start at the bottom and work their way up. In more demanding jobs, like Policing or Nursing, there's an increasing-problem of finding people who are emotionally-resilient enough to do unpleasant, demanding jobs, and, as such, there's a huge amount of time and money spent on educating and training people who decide after six months of real world work that the career isn't the right 'fit' for them.

I think I'd mentioned in a previous workplace that they'd come up with an unspoken rule not to hire anyone under 35: it was simply a waste of too much time and resources constantly training apathetic, uncommitted workers, who'll drift off after a few weeks.

White Australia doesn't force any kind of strong work ethic into their children, and, as such, the low end jobs are going to the African and Middle Eastern populations, but the high end jobs, (IT, medicine, dental), are going to Indian and Asian populations.

Having spent some time working with Social Welfare bodies, I'm fascinated by the fact that Asians just don't seem to collect it.
Roosh · 2015-09-15 16:08:00 · #1339
I see that there is a side conversation between a couple members about colonial history. That is not relevant to this thread, so either you can start a new thread or take it to PM. This thread is for migrant invasion news. It's a busy enough thread as is so let's keep replies focused on the topic.
Dusty · 2015-09-15 16:12:00 · #1340
Another Dusty law proposal.

No college/university is allowed to accept any student who does not have two years post high school low skill work experience. This means: cleaning toilets, dishwashing, cutting lawns etc. no school or student is exempt including sons of billionaires and Harvard. No school can accept federal dollars, including student loans, if they are in violation.

The value of this law:

1. Students start college at age 20 and with 2 years of real world experience. They will be more mature. They might have some money too.
2. They might learn something practical.
3. They will learn humility.
4. This experience might turn into something better and they decide they don't need school,
5. More likely to avoid majors such as Gender Studies and will seek something more practical.
TheWastelander · 2015-09-15 16:17:00 · #1341
http://news.yahoo.com/border-free-europe...30875.html

Quote:Hungary shuts EU border, taking migrant crisis into its own hands

By Krisztina Than and Ivana Sekularac

SERBIAN-HUNGARIAN BORDER (Reuters) - Hungary's right-wing government shut the main land route for migrants into the European Union on Tuesday, taking matters into its own hands to halt Europe's influx of refugees.

An emergency effort led by Germany to force EU member states to accept mandatory quotas of refugees collapsed in discord.

Chancellor Angela Merkel appealed for European unity after one of her ministers called for financial penalties against countries that refused to accommodate their share of the migrants, provoking anger in central Europe.

A Czech official described such threats as empty but nonetheless "damaging" while Slovakia said they would bring the "end of the EU".

Under new rules that took effect from midnight, Hungary said anyone seeking asylum on its southern border with Serbia, the EU's external frontier, would automatically be turned back, and anyone trying to sneak through would face jail.

At the border, migrants barred from continuing their long journey north towards a new life in Germany chanted as the sun went down, and one held up a banner saying: "Mama Merkel, please help us!"

Families with small children sat in fields beneath the new 3.5-metre (10 foot) high fence, topped with razor wire, which blocks entry for migrants to the former communist country.

"Strike. No food. No water. Open this border," a woman had written on a child’s dress that she held above her head.

Migrants who tried to apply for asylum in a transit zone of metal containers were swiftly turned away. Macruf Suhufi Abdi Omar, a Somali man, told Reuters he had been refused asylum barely an hour after he gave his fingerprints.

Hungarian officials said they had denied 16 asylum claims at the frontier within hours and were processing 32 more. Police had arrested 174 people for trying to sneak across the border.

Prime Minister Viktor Orban, one of the continent's loudest opponents of mass immigration, says he is acting to save Europe's "Christian values" by blocking the main overland route used by mainly Muslim refugees, who travel through the Balkans and cross his country mainly to reach Germany or Sweden.

Amnesty International accused Hungary of "showing the ugly face of Europe's shambolic response" to the crisis.

The great migration has led to the unraveling of one of the 28-member EU's signature achievements, its Schengen system of border-free travel across much of the continent.

Record arrivals forced Berlin to reimpose emergency frontier controls this week, with several neighbors swiftly following. Austria, next on the road from Hungary to Germany, said tougher border measures would take effect at midnight.

Germany stepped up the pressure on EU states resisting the plan to spread refugees around the bloc under a mandatory quota system. Interior Minister Thomas de Maiziere said the EU should penalize countries that reject quotas.

"I think we must talk about ways of exerting pressure," he told ZDF television, adding that some of the countries that opposed quotas were beneficiaries of EU funds.

Tomas Prouza, the Czech State Secretary for the EU, said the apparent German threat to cut off EU funds was "empty but very damaging to all". Slovak Prime Minister Robert Fico declared his country would never agree to quotas, and threats of financial retaliation would lead to "the end of the EU".

Merkel later called for a special EU refugee summit, and distanced herself from her minister's comments. "We need to establish a European spirit again," she told a news conference. "I don't think threats are the right way to achieve agreement."

EU interior ministers, who failed to agree on Monday on the quota system championed by Germany, will meet again on Sept. 22.

Eastern European countries argue that a welcoming stance encourages more people to come, overwhelming welfare systems and risking the dilution of national cultures.

Under its new rules, Hungary said it had determined Serbia was "safe", and therefore it could automatically deny asylum claims at the border.

"If someone is a refugee, we will ask them whether they have submitted an asylum request in Serbia. If they had not done so, given that Serbia is a safe country, they will be rejected,” Orban was quoted as telling private broadcaster TV2 on Monday.

Serbia called the new Hungarian rules "unacceptable". The United Nations disputed the definition of Serbia as safe, saying the poor ex-Yugoslav state lacked capacity to house thousands of refugees turned back at Europe's gates.

Orban says that by reinforcing the EU's external border his government is merely enforcing EU rules, and that no countries are duty-bound to take in refugees that pass through safe states. Critics at home and in European neighbors say some of his rhetoric has crossed a line into alarmism and xenophobia.

WE HAVE LOST EVERYTHING

At the border, migrants were close to despair. "I don’t know what I will do," said 40-year-old Riad from Aleppo in Syria. “I will wait to see. We have lost everything to reach this point.”

A record 156,000 migrants entered the EU in August, the bloc's border agency Frontex reported, taking the total for the year to more than 500,000. Frontex chief Fabrice Leggeri told Reuters his agency was preparing to speed up identification of illegal migrants and would help to deport them in large numbers.

EU data show just under half of asylum claims were granted last year but less than half of those rejected were deported.

Germany has prepared for as many as 800,000 asylum seekers this year, and some officials say that may be an underestimate.

"We’re on the street now,” said Mouz, a 22-year-old Syrian, who slept on the Hungarian border. Asked if he might consider another route, he replied: “I don’t know. I’m from Syria. I cannot go back.”

Serbia says it is readying more temporary accommodation but will not accept anyone turned back from Hungary.

"That's no longer our responsibility," Aleksandar Vulin, the minister in charge of policy on migrants, told the Tanjug state news agency. "They are on Hungarian territory and I expect the Hungarian state to behave accordingly towards them."
WalterBlack · 2015-09-15 16:27:00 · #1342
(09-15-2015 03:44 PM)Eskhander Wrote:  And while he does not bash Indians, frankly that's probably because they are brown (therefore protected) and culturally amenable (remember, these are Brahmin). After hearing a lot of his speeches it seems pretty clear he is using dogwhistles to hide anything too racialist. A little known fact about him is that as a kid he had "far right tendencies and beliefs."

Most Indians in UK are not Brahmin, in fact very few are. Farage probably has an idea of how succeful Indians are in the UK and he probably doesn't see it as a race issue.

(09-15-2015 01:05 PM)Turkish Republican Wrote:  I don't think Indians are held in very high regard in the anglosphere world. The best way to gauge your value in the international market is to look at how many countries you can travel to visa free.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_requi...n_citizens

Nearly all countries require a visa for Indian citizens.

This is how the world looks at them.
[Image: lyVZMX.png]

Visas are required in all of the Anglosphere for Chinese too. In most Anglosphere countries Indians and Chinese are some of the most successful minorities. Are Chinese not considered high value?

There isn’t of horde of Indians trying to cross into Europe. The populations of immigrants which settle abroad are not necessarily representative of the country they come from. E.g. Los Angeles has a lot of people from Iran, but they are Jewish. Just about all of the Koreans I’ve come across in the US are Christian, but in S Korea most the majority of Koreans are not Christian, they’re either Buddhist or atheist. Most of the Arabs in the US are Christian, but in the Middle East/North Africa they are Muslim.

I’m not gonna derail the thread and talk too much about Indians. They are not the main issue here.

As for the people coming into Europe on boats – let’s just say I would expect there to be a big increase in rape and crime in many countries. The people coming in this way are nowhere near the cream of their countries.
Gopnik · 2015-09-15 16:30:00 · #1343
Two Iraqi "refugees" have been accused of raping an 18 year old girl in Hamm, Germany:

   
Going strong · 2015-09-15 17:19:00 · #1344
(09-15-2015 04:08 PM)Roosh Wrote:  I see that there is a side conversation between a couple members about colonial history. That is not relevant to this thread, so either you can start a new thread or take it to PM. This thread is for migrant invasion news. It's a busy enough thread as is so let's keep replies focused on the topic.

Sorry about this "colonial times in Haiti-Dominican Republic" side conversation. Blush

But I'd like to use, one last time, a Dominican Republic example - albeit, a modern one, and I think relevant to this "migrants invasion" thread (same way people on this thread evoked the Australian way of dealing with migrants) :

Because, starting about 3 months ago, the Dominican Republic has started a huge legal and security fight against illegal migrants (mostly from Haiti). It has reached the point where any Haitian-looking person, has to carry an ID with him on the streets (because of frequent police checks and arrests)...

There have been huge, angry manifestations by illegal Haitian migrants about that, in June, but to no avail... Anyway, the Dominican anti-migrants measures are starting to produce positive results (with a reduction in numbers of illegals present in the country)...

So, this is just to illustrate that: migrants invasion is currently a worldwide problem, and that very strict policies enforced on the ground by a serious, determined police force, can get results. Maybe European countries might learn something from the Dominicans and their police force? We should implement something like they did, in W. Europe:

"On Aug. 1, a 45-day period for undocumented immigrants, who registered their status in the country to submit finalized paperwork, expired. Six days later, the government announced formal deportations had resumed.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/08/15...EE20150815

The following also illustrates what is probably going to happen in a few days, along the Serbian Hungarian border (so it is relevant to this thread): probably we'll see, "limbo-life on the border" and construction of "informal villages" for migrants who couldn't make it past the frontier... So expect to see scenes like that soon in EE:

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-w...06527.html

........................

Meanwhile, Frau Merkel threatens to suspend European funds Dodgy to EE countries who refuse to take illegal migrants in.

Merkel even said that "she won't bring all the torture instruments, as of now" Confused (Stasi-styled thinly veiled threat) (to convince the EE countries to collaborate)

And yes, she used the words, "torture tools", when asked about trying to break EE countries' will - by using monetary retaliation against Hungary-Slovakia-Czek...

Can you imagine if, say, V. Putin had used the words, "torture tools", when asked how to apply pressure on other European countries...? the media would have gone crazy!

http://www.lefigaro.fr/international/201...trants.php

"En évoquant une sanction financière, Berlin reprend une idée émise par le président de la commission européenne Jean-Claude Juncker ou par le gouvernement autrichien. Fin août, la chancelière Angela Merkel l'avait néanmoins écartée: «Je ne veux pas sortir maintenant tous les instruments de torture. Nous voulons trouver une solution en bons camarades», avait-elle déclaré lors d'une conférence de presse"

I won't bring all the torture instruments, as of now. We are going to find a solution as good comrades Exclamation : it is exactly the way a Stasi officer would have spoken...
PainPositive · 2015-09-15 17:48:00 · #1345
(09-15-2015 04:12 PM)Dusty Wrote:  Another Dusty law proposal.

No college/university is allowed to accept any student who does not have two years post high school low skill work experience. This means: cleaning toilets, dishwashing, cutting lawns etc. no school or student is exempt including sons of billionaires and Harvard. No school can accept federal dollars, including student loans, if they are in violation.

The value of this law:

1. Students start college at age 20 and with 2 years of real world experience. They will be more mature. They might have some money too.
2. They might learn something practical.
3. They will learn humility.
4. This experience might turn into something better and they decide they don't need school,
5. More likely to avoid majors such as Gender Studies and will seek something more practical.

You could get the same value and more with mandatory 2 year military service as well.
Libertas · 2015-09-15 17:53:00 · #1346
So I just heard that the Turks are now starting to prevent "refugees" from reaching the Aegean and ferrying to Greece. They're getting butthurt. Laugh Any news? Any more news on stopping the boats in general?

Meanwhile the "refugees" in Hungary are demanding that they be let through but Hungary is telling them to fuck off. Laugh

The Hungarians defending the West from Islamic invasion again, even when the West seems to want it this time.
kaotic · 2015-09-15 18:12:00 · #1347
Since when did it become racist to protect your borders from EVERYBODY ?

Since when did you get fined for that ?

That's such bullshit.

All these men immigrating, why don't you fight for your own country ? You're able to travel and cross the oceans, but can't fight ?

I swear they never fight, give up easily, or surrender immediately.

Gotta thank America for destabilizing the region.
UncleSam · 2015-09-15 18:19:00 · #1348
Beautiful, just beautiful:

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Hotwheels · 2015-09-15 18:19:00 · #1349
The Third Reich only lasted what, 12 years?

Now Germany's EU is starting to flounder after a similar amount of time.

Merkel threatening other EU countries is comical and will end badly for her. I note she has already backtracked on those comments.
Dusty · 2015-09-15 18:21:00 · #1350
(09-15-2015 06:19 PM)UncleSam Wrote:  Beautiful, just beautiful:

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Walls don't work - Yabe Bush
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