(09-12-2015 03:22 PM)Dan Woolf Wrote:  Nigel Farage thinks the United Kingdom's EU referendum will be held in March. And he's never been wrong when it comes to EU stuff.

Some observations about Farage. Yes he has caused Cameron to promise an EU referendum twice (Cameron lied the first time but the voters gave him another chance) and he mentions valid points about the sustainability of the EU. This means that Eastern Europeans and Poles specifically have had some unfair attention.

However when we look at a map of migration within the EU, we see something about the UK that Farage is strangely silent about:



A few facts about India:

* It is the second most populated country on Earth;
* One-sixth of the world's population lives here;
* Its population surpassed one billion in 1998;
* It is projected to surpass China as the world's most populated country by 2025;
* More than 50% of its population is under 25 (65% below 35)
* Immigration to the UK is mostly from India

Economically, Farage's party is neo-liberal. This means cheaper labour to replace former cheap labour is continually needed to sustain 'growth'.

So we can see that the UK which often criticises the continental project of the EU is, and always was, a sponsor of global free-trade and labour extraction and population replacement. It has been since the days of the Whig Party whose international free trade policies caused the famine in Ireland.

(09-14-2015 09:40 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:  ^ So you are stating that NO people have right to any land? Does that include Europeans in Europe or that logic only apply to people outside of Europe.

We saw much more violence in South Africa before the blacks got into "Power", also don't kid yourself the Elites that run that country are still white.

White South Africans have gladly been embraced into other Anglo countries, therefore I wouldn't call them migrants.

Who is going to fight in Europe? Are you going to fight?

@Rudebwoy -- There's no point in arguing with these people. There's no logic or consistency to their arguments. If you say something and even provide a source, they'll just say the source is "too leftist" or "liberal" or "[insert x buzzword here]". Meanwhile we're told to believe their anecdotal bullshit at face value.

Some of the people in this thread are all about how white males are so oppressed and then these very same people in the very next hour will go post about the 'White God Factor' in the Travel forum. The lack of self-awareness is comical.

Shake your head and move on. Engaging with them is a waste of time, man. Their views aren't going to change.

(09-15-2015 12:31 AM)Vice Wrote:  

(09-14-2015 09:40 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:  ^ So you are stating that NO people have right to any land? Does that include Europeans in Europe or that logic only apply to people outside of Europe.

We saw much more violence in South Africa before the blacks got into "Power", also don't kid yourself the Elites that run that country are still white.

White South Africans have gladly been embraced into other Anglo countries, therefore I wouldn't call them migrants.

Who is going to fight in Europe? Are you going to fight?

@Rudebwoy -- There's no point in arguing with these people. There's no logic or consistency to their arguments. If you say something and even provide a source, they'll just say the source is "too leftist" or "liberal" or "[insert x buzzword here]". Meanwhile we're told to believe their anecdotal bullshit at face value.

Some of the people in this thread are all about how white males are so oppressed and then these very same people in the very next hour will go post about the 'White God Factor' in the Travel forum. The lack of self-awareness is comical.

Shake your head and move on. Engaging with them is a waste of time, man. Their views aren't going to change.

People did provide a source for South Africa being more violent

(09-14-2015 11:58 PM)N°6 Wrote:  However when we look at a map of migration within the EU, we see something about the UK that Farage is strangely silent about:



A few facts about India:

* It is the second most populated country on Earth;
* One-sixth of the world's population lives here;
* Its population surpassed one billion in 1998;
* It is projected to surpass China as the world's most populated country by 2025;
* More than 50% of its population is under 25 (65% below 35)
* Immigration to the UK is mostly from India

What's your point? There is no "Indian problem" in the UK.

Our problems started when the Pakistanis took over the mass immigration game. Many of these people are welfare leeches and cause tons of (highly predictable) problems by aggressively attempting to enforce their religion on everyone.

I'd take the hard-working and often highly educated Indian immigrants over Pakistanis, Somalians and Arabs. Every time.

Historically, Britain has taken the cream of the crop when it comes to Indian immigrants. The vast majority integrate into society, are ambitious, extremely entrepreneurial and so on. Sure, no nationality is perfect, but Indians are mostly model immigrants. And I'm sure they are just as pissed off as we are about what is happening. Not least because they get the blame for what Pakistanis are doing.

Europeans aren't against all immigrants. We are against the creeping islamification of our continent. That is what concerns us.

We need to stop all islamic immigration NOW with very few exceptions.

Watch the documentary "Tell me and I will Forget" about South Africa if you don't believe it's an utter hellhole now. I have Nigerian friends vouch for this evidence and a few South Africans corroborate it as well.

The South Africa point was debunked, then it moved to Haiti. Most don't have interest in defending existence and rights in a thread plainly stated about the survival of Europe. Debate whether whites are a demon race that deserves to be extinguished or not can be discussed in your other favorite threads, Vice. There's plenty of places available for that brand of talk since there's hardly escape left from it anymore.

So people not trusting all sources and one-sided depictions of evil, white colonialism at face value bothers you? Well, since the early decades of the last century you had infamous communist writers blatantly state that false information should be published and sold as fact in order to degrade certain greater cultures...
So leave us in peace.

With the majority of these migrants skewing heavily and predominantly toward young males, these migrants are not even economic opportunists -- they are simply pussy opportunists/migrants and as such not much different than many of us here.

So for anyone who wants to dillute Europe as fast as possible make sure to promote this picture in Africa at all times.



In fact, whoever first published this picture in mass media probably has blood on their hands. I'm quite certain that some of these migrants died trying to reach Europe with this image as driving force in their minds.

The one thing I agree with Vice is white guys on the internet and in general whine too much. Just stick up for yourself, be a man, and accept the consequences might get you into trouble sometimes, but you'll end up better for it.

White males are discriminated against, but we also have many advantages to overcome it.

Were smarter, better looking, and get the highest quality pussy in the world. We can emigrate very easily because were not a problem population.

Also, even if we're discriminatee against, its very easy to out compete other races if you go into a new field because there not as smart or as industrious, save, Mexicans whose work ethic is, well, pretty freakin good.

There is opportunity for white men all over the world, but still, whites need to be more vocal in standing up for their speech rights and standing up for themselves in general and to be more ruthless with our women who have gotten out of control.

(09-15-2015 01:19 AM)rhino Wrote:  With the majority of these migrants skewing heavily and predominantly toward young males, these migrants are not even economic opportunists -- they are simply pussy opportunists/migrants and as such not much different than many of us here.

So for anyone who wants to dillute Europe as fast as possible make sure to promote this picture in Africa at all times.



In fact, whoever first published this picture in mass media probably has blood on his hands. I'm quite certain that some of these migrants died reaching Europe with this image as driving force in their minds.

Damn, look closely at the left one's eyes. Bitch's face looks like a goblin that just stole your pot of gold.

It is interesting Vice's lament that white men aren't swallowing the propaganda that they should prostrate themselves to others while accepting that other groups are allowed to be proud of their heritage and work for better futures, while, whites aren't allowed to do the same.

I am seeing that lament everywhere among leftists. The gamergate thing turned a lot of leftists or people on the fence into moderates or rightists, and the Alt Right is gaining A LOT of momentum in their support and legitimacy.


European's peoples enemies or even just people who prefer European's to be gigantic pussies don't like the collective rebuff of the current cultures weak values, and the ascendancy of pride among Europeans, but their just going to have to get used to it.


Were not the dominant majority anymore, so, be mad at the liberals for making white people more ethnocentric, it wasn't the far right who made abortion illegal and flooded America and Europe with third worlders, if you want to made at anybody for the rise in European ethnocentrism, be mad at the white liberals who have set the stage for these battles among different groups by weakening the European majorities.

(09-15-2015 12:31 AM)Vice Wrote:  Some of the people in this thread are all about how white males are so oppressed and then these very same people in the very next hour will go post about the 'White God Factor' in the Travel forum. The lack of self-awareness is comical.

There's nothing comical about it. These are two mutually exclusive things.

Martin Armstrong tells how it is again:

We are looking at the economy turning down very hard and the blame will be directed at the immigrants fleeing because of ISIS. We will see war rise because of this issue, as they are blamed for the economic decline in Europe. With unemployment among the youth already at 50% on average in many areas, accepting this many migrants who will also be unemployed will topple the economic system in Europe. We are seeing the seeing for this turning point of 2015.75 unfold before our eyes. As always, domestic populations will blame the migrants for the economic decline.

soruce: http://www.armstrongeconomics.com/archives/37172

Taiwanese animated news at it again:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivk8pYkq05Q

(09-15-2015 01:33 AM)Glaucon Wrote:  As always, domestic populations will blame the migrants for the economic decline.

Populations at large are ALWAYS bunch of misdirected wholesale morons.

Merkel bombs Syria, then invites the whole country of Syria to freely move to Germany, then poses for selfies with them -- but predictably, the idiots in German democracy will STILL blame Syrians for their woes.

That's like that moron who kills his wife's lover because she cheated. Most people are just born, not made, dumb.

(09-15-2015 12:31 AM)Vice Wrote:  @Rudebwoy -- There's no point in arguing with these people. There's no logic or consistency to their arguments. If you say something and even provide a source, they'll just say the source is "too leftist" or "liberal" or "[insert x buzzword here]". Meanwhile we're told to believe their anecdotal bullshit at face value.

Some of the people in this thread are all about how white males are so oppressed and then these very same people in the very next hour will go post about the 'White God Factor' in the Travel forum. The lack of self-awareness is comical.

Shake your head and move on. Engaging with them is a waste of time, man. Their views aren't going to change.

If you're going to attack other members at least address them directly. Don't pretend to be addressing a single person and then take potshots at other members. That post would have made much more sense as a PM, but you needed everyone to see you get your passive-aggressive jabs in. That's feminine behavior.

"Some of the people in this thread...", Who?

I've noticed this type of posting is a trend among the more SJW-like posters here.

Merkel is to blame sure, but at the end of the day if your a native german after a big depression hits, and syrians come to steal your food, their your enemy too, even if they are only there because of Merkel.

(09-15-2015 01:38 AM)Requiem Wrote:  Taiwanese animated news at it again:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivk8pYkq05Q

I love these.

(09-14-2015 11:58 PM)N°6 Wrote:  However when we look at a map of migration within the EU, we see something about the UK that Farage is strangely silent about:

This map can not be understood by those who do not live there.

For example in the case of Hungary migrants come from Romania for sure, but they are Hungarians coming from Transylvania.

Transylvania was part and parcel of the Hungarian Kingdom, or an independent Hungarian Principality for over a thousand years.

Besides a few scattered ruins of Roman fortifications, destroyed by the retreating Roman legions in 271 A.D., no sign of any kind would indicate a trace of an older established culture preceding the arrival of the Hungarians. Not even the legends, folk tales, ballads or folk songs of any one of the cohabiting ethnic groups suggest anything of this kind, except the oldest Hungarian (Székely) legends which date back to the time of Attila and the empire of the Huns.

It was separated from Hungary after the first world war, and there is a huge amount of Hungarians living there, as minority, treated as shit by Romania. Of course they want to move back to Hungary.

(09-15-2015 01:38 AM)Requiem Wrote:  Taiwanese animated news at it again:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivk8pYkq05Q

Goodness, whomever made this is a genius par excellence!

Liked and subscribed.

(09-15-2015 01:04 AM)dreambig Wrote:  

(09-14-2015 11:58 PM)N°6 Wrote:  However when we look at a map of migration within the EU, we see something about the UK that Farage is strangely silent about:



A few facts about India:

* It is the second most populated country on Earth;
* One-sixth of the world's population lives here;
* Its population surpassed one billion in 1998;
* It is projected to surpass China as the world's most populated country by 2025;
* More than 50% of its population is under 25 (65% below 35)
* Immigration to the UK is mostly from India

What's your point? There is no "Indian problem" in the UK.

Our problems started when the Pakistanis took over the mass immigration game. Many of these people are welfare leeches and cause tons of (highly predictable) problems by aggressively attempting to enforce their religion on everyone.

I'd take the hard-working and often highly educated Indian immigrants over Pakistanis, Somalians and Arabs. Every time.

Historically, Britain has taken the cream of the crop when it comes to Indian immigrants. The vast majority integrate into society, are ambitious, extremely entrepreneurial and so on. Sure, no nationality is perfect, but Indians are mostly model immigrants. And I'm sure they are just as pissed off as we are about what is happening. Not least because they get the blame for what Pakistanis are doing.

Europeans aren't against all immigrants. We are against the creeping islamification of our continent. That is what concerns us.

We need to stop all islamic immigration NOW with very few exceptions.

No6 writes "Farage's party is neo-liberal. This means cheaper labour to replace former cheap labour is continually needed to sustain 'growth'." And forgets the other side of the equation: labor that seeks higher wages, or dependents that seek greater welfare benefits.

Notice anything consistent about the map? It is interesting that the most frequent fact about the largest groups immigration - at least until the past 20 years or so - is composed of former colonizers or colonists.

This suggests the importance of politics and history for making good matches of labor demand and supply. And therefore to neglect this fact - as Germany is now doing - is likely to prove more disruptive and unsettling, and possibly threatening to other nations!

The crackdown has begun:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2...n-refugees

Quote:Facebook Inc. said it would step up efforts to target racist posts on its German website after the government called on the social network to crack down on a surge in xenophobic outbursts against refugees.

They have completely lost control of the narrative. No matter how much BS the media shoves down our throats, people are pissed about the situation. So now they are stepping in to censor free speech!

An elite minority is forcing their will on the people and countries of Europe, and clamping down on our rights to make it happen. So tell me: who are the real Nazis?[/quote]

BTW for those of you who argue Facebook is a private platform, so who cares, remember that this is the biggest speech platform being used by our generation at this point. There are no other social networks to go to, and social media is de-facto the primary method of disseminating information for people these days. By censoring it, you are cutting off dissent at the knees.

Any similarity to Stasi is purely coincidental...

Short video without commentary from the hungarian-serbian border, mood seems to be non-tense.

https://video.xx.fbcdn.net/hvideo-xpt1/v...e=55F7F5FD

That graph is completely off frankly - they probably calculated decades old immigrants for that or an even longer time-frame. Also as others have noted - Indians don't cause problems in the UK just as well as 1-2 mio. Poles in recent years were at best a nuisance, but not overly problematic.

Not all immigrants are equal as we all should acknowledge here.

As far as guys bringing up examples from the history - yes - all countries are up for grabs by the strongest, most developed party. American Indians have been killing each other before the arrival of the Europeans and blacks have been doing genocide before the colonization of their continent. In a way might makes right, but I would like to differentiate between different forms of conquest.

The Greeks, Romans and even the 18-19th century Europeans brought great advances of technology, science, infrastructure, medicine - so all of it was not bad. There were other times in history where migrants of less developed peoples destroyed a higher civilization by sheer force (end Roman times). The current influx of "diverse" migrants is not contributing anything to Europe, but only taking away. If suddenly Earth got colonized by an advanced intergalactic species, then as long as we would not get exterminated en masse - it might prove even beneficial to us as they would bring free electricity, advanced tech, healing of diseases, end of hunger, interstellar travel etc. There wouldn't be only negatives attached to it all.

That however won't be happening this time - the current elite may be traitors and scumbags, but they are not stupid and they ARE NOT THE POLITICIANS. Merkel does as she is ordered to do.





I think it will be as Max Igan here says - there will be austerity, greater poverty for all, civil unrest, internal terrorism and then a crushing Orwellian police state, because that is what the elite actually wants. It's a setup and not the destruction of civilization.

How is this going to be financed?

Well - some German "experts" are spilling the beans: https://mopo24.de/nachrichten/rentenalte...rauf-11995
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GaiNejPINE

There will be cuts in social expenditures for the German poor, pension cuts, infrastructure cuts, taxes will rise for the bottom 99,9% too of course. So essentially you have a transfer of wealth from the bottom 95% to the 3rd world immigrants.

That is exactly how the UN can hope to attain their 2030 "end poverty" goals:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-2015_...ent_Agenda
https://sustainabledevelopment.un.org/co...0World.pdf

Quote:Leave No One Behind. After 2015 we should move from reducing to ending extreme poverty, in all its forms. We should ensure that no person – regardless of ethnicity, gender, geography, disability, race or other status – is denied basic economic opportunities and human rights.

What "Leave No One Behind" means is pure socialism and simple transfer. Don't assume for one moment that the UN is for real organic growth and prosperity. This is not how globalists think. They don't want to industrialize Africa and let them become rich. In fact they are doing their best to destroy wealthy African countries like South Africa, Libya or Syria.

Also - there are already signs of how great multi-culturalism is - not only was there a recent stabbing in a Swedish Ikea, but there was this little incident in Germany:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edlrArLcvAE
http://wochenendspiegel-online.de/cms/as...schuss-ab/



Here you have two lovely immigrants trying to steal in a German discounter when they were interrupted by the preposterous security guard. They fled, but came back armed with a pepper spray and a machete. When the police arrived they arrested one man and gave off a warning shot. The machete guy came back later and threatened the employees with head-cutting motions.

I am sure you will see more of this in the future as those diverse cultures will enrich their new host countries which they somehow seem to hate.

I personally think that we all as Soul deep within are equal, but the personal consciousness and the social consciousness of a given country or group can be very different. Not all countries and peoples at all times are equal.

RamZ Paul proposes a more radical solution:





I am sure that the elite will stop it sooner or later, but I think that they will allow 50-150 million to enter within the next decades - enough to cause a ruckus and help them create their Orwellian police state, but not enough to utterly destroy the current civilization. Also - don't think for a second that the US and Canada are safe. The plans for North America are identical.

(09-15-2015 02:11 AM)Glaucon Wrote:  

(09-14-2015 11:58 PM)N°6 Wrote:  However when we look at a map of migration within the EU, we see something about the UK that Farage is strangely silent about:

This map can not be understood by those who do not live there.

For example in the case of Hungary migrants come from Romania for sure, but they are Hungarians coming from Transylvania.

Transylvania was part and parcel of the Hungarian Kingdom, or an independent Hungarian Principality for over a thousand years.

Besides a few scattered ruins of Roman fortifications, destroyed by the retreating Roman legions in 271 A.D., no sign of any kind would indicate a trace of an older established culture preceding the arrival of the Hungarians. Not even the legends, folk tales, ballads or folk songs of any one of the cohabiting ethnic groups suggest anything of this kind, except the oldest Hungarian (Székely) legends which date back to the time of Attila and the empire of the Huns.

It was separated from Hungary after the first world war, and there is a huge amount of Hungarians living there, as minority, treated as shit by Romania. Of course they want to move back to Hungary.

Actually part of the Kingdom of Dacia as far as history goes back. Hungary merely held power for a few centuries. At the end of ww1 only 30% were hungarians so it was given to whom it belongs.

Kingdom of Hungary had a good run for a few centuries, but ultimately lost most of their conquered territories. Such is life, time to move on, its 2015.

Rather pointless to bring this up, same as Columbus and Hispaniola or South Africa and Apartheid. Absolutely irrelevant to current events.

Topic should be about the current migration, and situation in the Middle East that led to these events.

Afghanistan was surveyed by the US after the recent war, and estimates of rare earth elements are around 1 trillion, besides oil and other resources. Seeing how China holds 90% of the "mineable" rare earths and technology is going to skyrocket in the next decades... well, perhaps we can get some angles on this if somebody has some info.

Another issue that Id like to bring up is, how this migration might increase surveillance in EU. Im sure recent Paris attacks ramped it up a little bit, but I fear the current situation will further accelerate surveillance.

There is a meeting taking place in the Hungarian government about the migrant crisis.

-They announce state of emergency on two counties in Hungary.

-The biggest group of migrants in the last 3 months are the Syrians (or who said they are Syrians), with 66896, the second largest Afghans with 32979, there was 3231 Bangladeshi 3630 Iraqis. 300 has been granted the refugee status. Since 1st of August the border fence has been damaged 73 times.

-There has been a significant decrease of illegal border crosser since the new measures has been taken.

-It cost 200 Million EUR to fortify the border already, the EU had given 7 million.