(09-09-2015 04:18 AM)Blick Mang Wrote: This is it, I finally found a girl worth marrying. For all the talk here of the decline of Western women, they're unfit for building families, etc. I have been proven wrong. I will be launching a social media campaign to track this heroic Magyar down and put a ring on it.
(09-09-2015 02:12 AM)phoenix101 Wrote:(09-09-2015 01:02 AM)johnfortunebg Wrote: In other words, my backup plan for learning Spanish and moving to South America in several years is already starting to unfold. I hope I won't have to resort to this but I don't intend to remain ruled by people who (for all practical purposes) hate people like me and will like to see us deleted from the face of this planet.
Which country in S. America were you planning to go to? With only looking at a few countries, it looks like the gender ratio fuckup is international (ie. 15 and under, pre-marriage age starts at on average with 5% excess males, and the singles figure gets worse into the prime relationship ages).
Zelcorpion Wrote:The plan is for Europe to become so diverse, so poor, so violently chaotic that the people will never be able to rise in unison. Also they will accept more easily a 1984 surveillance police state in the future because all those jobless migrants won't be happy sitting at home and playing Playstation. Sooner or later there will be plenty of unrest.Vox Day writes about this and predicts effective rise of nationalism in Europe and eventual deportation of non-natives. I personally think that he is somehow naive in that opinion, not because the illoyal elites are competent (they really aren't; the way they are managing this is idiotic) but because people have been turned into sheep by liberalism.
(09-09-2015 05:00 AM)Glaucon Wrote: I hope this is peak liberalism...
(09-09-2015 01:25 AM)speakeasy Wrote: Will they be given good jobs? What exactly is the plan for integrating them into the society as productive people?
Quote:Only 1 out of 20 immigrants arriving in Munich these days is barely able to speak a few bits of english
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The best way for integration is getting a job which is very often prevented by missing language abilities. A fast solution for the of lack of skilled employees in Germany should not be expected.
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There is an example of a skilled doctor from Syria who is looking for a job for a year now, because of his bad german language skills.
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"Early Interventions" is a program financed by the government looking for unskilled people with immigration background in german cities trying to make them fit for the job market with coaching and german language classes. Although working with about 2000 clients no one got a job afterwards.
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Between august 2014 and august 2015 the number of unemployed germans went down by 6%. The number of unemployed people with a foreign citizenship went up by 9%.
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German isn't an easy language to learn and free german language teachers are basically non existent at this point.
(09-09-2015 06:28 AM)UncleSam Wrote: There is a mysterious number of 500.000 free jobs here in Germany paraded around by business lobbyists which could be filled instantly, they say. Well, if we're doing just the math, we can already see that 500.000 jobs aren't enough to give everyone work, even if we want to and if we're going to believe our wise leaders, we can expect many more to come. Family reunification is a human right, say thay. Not to mention that this number could significantly shrink if an economic downturn hits us in the near future. But who am I to demand from our politicans to plan things a few years ahead? I'm just paying for all of this shit with my taxes.
(09-09-2015 06:28 AM)UncleSam Wrote:(09-09-2015 01:25 AM)speakeasy Wrote: Will they be given good jobs? What exactly is the plan for integrating them into the society as productive people?
A plan? You expect a little bit to much I guess.
There is a mysterious number of 500.000 free jobs here in Germany paraded around by business lobbyists which could be filled instantly, they say.
Quote:Among other concern is how to support these immigrants since the estimated sum required is deemed « impossible »
The main tas know is to see how to properly distribute these refugees among the French territories
Quote:The mayor of Bordeaux agrees that the 24000 share is « fair and moderate »
Quote:Many mayors declared their concern that the government plan’s is not sustainable.
A new law is passing to make communities leaders cooperate with the accomodation efforts. Previously refugees have only been concentrated in the big cities, where they could run into high tension with the locals.
Quote:Concerning jobs though, I think the german government will be fine with say 100k unemployed migrants, if it means 10k german citizens getting a new job as a social worker, language teacher, police officer, bureaucrat etc.
(09-09-2015 08:28 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote: It doesnt work like that. This is exactly the reasoning that got France into this economic shithole. These jobs are a fiscal drain and do not generate any income. They are more like expenses spent to upkeep society, but now its spent upkeeping an alien population. Who pays for teachers, police and bureaucrats? Taxes. Whereas a businessman and farmer actually create values and products, these "fonctionnaires" are just dead weight on a sinking ship made of lead
(09-09-2015 07:57 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote: Please - Germany doesn't have any real job openings. The few real openings that they really have are either created that way because they don't want to pay higher wages or the minimum wage for a shitty job is so close to unemployment benefits and social security, that hardly any local wants to do a shitty 40 hour week for some 200-300 euros extra.
(09-09-2015 08:12 AM)Sgt Wrote:(09-09-2015 06:28 AM)UncleSam Wrote:Concerning jobs though, I think the german government will be fine with say 100k unemployed migrants, if it means 10k german citizens getting a new job as a social worker, language teacher, police officer, bureaucrat etc.(09-09-2015 01:25 AM)speakeasy Wrote: Will they be given good jobs? What exactly is the plan for integrating them into the society as productive people?A plan? You expect a little bit to much I guess.
There is a mysterious number of 500.000 free jobs here in Germany paraded around by business lobbyists which could be filled instantly, they say.

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(09-09-2015 08:28 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:Quote:Concerning jobs though, I think the german government will be fine with say 100k unemployed migrants, if it means 10k german citizens getting a new job as a social worker, language teacher, police officer, bureaucrat etc.
....These jobs are a fiscal drain and do not generate any income. They are more like expenses spent to upkeep society, but now its spent upkeeping an alien population. Who pays for teachers, police and bureaucrats? Taxes. Whereas a businessman and farmer actually create values and products, these "fonctionnaires" are just dead weight on a sinking ship made of lead
(09-09-2015 05:50 AM)johnfortunebg Wrote: Argentina will probably be my goal as they appear to have the most well-developed software industry. Also, if we can trust the CIA factbook, their gender ratios currently are significantly better than the 'New Germany's' will be. They are also somewhat younger which means for me as a late-20s guy there will be more opportunities.
I'll probably fish for information and start a topic in the forum about life in and moving to South America at a certain point if there is not one already.
(09-09-2015 10:42 AM)Samseau Wrote: Anyone else see this pic?
ISIS invasion without a doubt.
(09-09-2015 10:44 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:(09-09-2015 08:28 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:Quote:Concerning jobs though, I think the german government will be fine with say 100k unemployed migrants, if it means 10k german citizens getting a new job as a social worker, language teacher, police officer, bureaucrat etc.
....These jobs are a fiscal drain and do not generate any income. They are more like expenses spent to upkeep society, but now its spent upkeeping an alien population. Who pays for teachers, police and bureaucrats? Taxes. Whereas a businessman and farmer actually create values and products, these "fonctionnaires" are just dead weight on a sinking ship made of lead
As a former social worker, I have to come to our defense-- society isn't as simple as that-- people's roles all fit together to drive society.
If you didnt have say, social workers to keep insane people off the streets they'd be harassing normal citizens and making the quality of life much lower.
You mention police, if you don't have police you have to have armed vigilantes which is worse.
It's like saying the windshield wipers of a car don't help move it forward . so they're just dead weight, it's technically true but the practicality of it is simply unrealistic.
(09-09-2015 10:44 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:(09-09-2015 08:28 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:Quote:Concerning jobs though, I think the german government will be fine with say 100k unemployed migrants, if it means 10k german citizens getting a new job as a social worker, language teacher, police officer, bureaucrat etc.
....These jobs are a fiscal drain and do not generate any income. They are more like expenses spent to upkeep society, but now its spent upkeeping an alien population. Who pays for teachers, police and bureaucrats? Taxes. Whereas a businessman and farmer actually create values and products, these "fonctionnaires" are just dead weight on a sinking ship made of lead
As a former social worker, I have to come to our defense-- society isn't as simple as that-- people's roles all fit together to drive society.
If you didnt have say, social workers to keep insane people off the streets they'd be harassing normal citizens and making the quality of life much lower.
You mention police, if you don't have police you have to have armed vigilantes which is worse.
It's like saying the windshield wipers of a car don't help move it forward . so they're just dead weight, it's technically true but the practicality of it is simply unrealistic.
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What he is saying is expenditures for social services will go up (skyrocket) with zero economic benefit to offset those expenses.