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RE: The Philippines thread
(09-06-2015 02:00 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  Btw the meat in the Philippines, especially in the supermarket is low grade. They have "aussie" beef at cocaine per gram prices available but you really need to know a quality local butcher or someone who owns a decent piggery to get real quality.

This may vary by region, because I haven't had a problem with the meat in Davao.

In fact, I consider the cheap, delicious pork one of the perks of living here.

But the meat I buy is all sourced from Mindanao.
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(09-06-2015 03:34 AM)Enigma Wrote:  Guys say a lot of shit in Tagalog/Bisaya, it doesn't matter if you're with a girl or not.

Most girls will not even volunteer that information to avoid problems.

Why would you take some random hecklers as an indication of the consensus thought of an entire country?

I'm not. You are stretching that point a little.

I'm saying that you will sometimes get stared down, your girl will feel uncomfortable and that is a factor at play when dating girls out here in the provinces. They are shamed by locals (and who knows probably relatives) and it does affect things. It's a factor to consider. No more no less.

(09-06-2015 03:34 AM)Enigma Wrote:  
Quote:All that said, when you are getting hate it often means you are doing something right. Back in Japan the only time I got stared down was when I was with particularly attractive girls. Nobody gave a damn about the 6s and 7s.

Yes, I'm also assuming you speak Japanese and weren't dating poor girls.

I do speak Japanese. There are no poor girls in Japan so it isn't a factor.

(09-06-2015 03:34 AM)Enigma Wrote:  How many guys in the West use terms like "slut", "douche", etc. when they see a guy dating a girl they want?

In front of the couple? Not many. Unless they are looking for a fight.

Like you mentioned, there does seem to be more of a shit talking culture here though. People shout "Walang forever" pretty often like it's the funniest joke in the world. I just let it slide.

(09-06-2015 03:34 AM)Enigma Wrote:  
Quote:In Manila I dated a couple of middle-class girls, although they came with their own problems. Out here I haven't ran into many except the students who mostly keep to their own tightly-knit social circles.
Then move to a major city.

That might be what I decide to do next time. But I wouldn't move back to Manila just for girls. Based on people's reports, I think Davao might be the good compromise city.

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Quote:One definition of the Filipino middle class I read was anywhere between $2-40k in income. That's a big fucking range! I'd personally consider someone earning below $5k as pretty poor and that's the majority of the population by far.

Bro, what? $5k per month is enough to live like a king in any city in SEA. An entire family could live off that very comfortably.

I am talking annual figures. $5k a year is middle-class here but we would still regard that as pretty poor.

(09-06-2015 03:34 AM)Enigma Wrote:  
Quote:I'm in agreement that it makes sense to target a better-off demographic of girl, although this still says a lot about the country when the average person is basically undateable for foreigners. You don't hear the same horror stories about your average Vietnamese chick for example. Why is that?

First off, this is just a fantasy mentality. Guys just want to get off the plane, close their eyes and spin around in a circle, and the girl they land on is their wife.

Dude, calm down. That is the last of my intentions. I'm just making observations. I've dated a ton of girls here from various regions, in different occupations, and the vast majority are not LTR prospects. Not even close.

And that is fine. I'm not looking for a wife, but I can't help but join up the dots that I see here on a daily basis.

Now, middle/upper class may indeed be the way to go, but see my next point.

(09-06-2015 03:34 AM)Enigma Wrote:  Average chick? Where in the world would you want to have a serious relationship with just any random girl you stumble across?

I don't. Like I said, it's just an observation. Your average Filipino is poor. Many are very poor. And the vast majority of these groups are not dateable in a serious way. So guys visiting need to know that vast swathes of the country are basically ruled out for anything beyond a few bangs.

If you go to a country and you need to date the upper classes just to find a decent girl with values then your "average" girl is not quality. And that says something about the general culture. That's all I'm saying.

(09-06-2015 03:34 AM)Enigma Wrote:  Secondly, you don't hear the same horror stories about Vietnam because you don't have thousands of foreigners flocking there in the hopes of easy pussy. You don't have millions of guys around the world messaging Vietnamese girls on FB, DIA, etc.

Maybe. But I do think there is a strong cultural difference at play. Vietnam is actually poorer than the Philippines and yet you rarely hear the scammer stories. I'm sure they exist, but it doesn't seem to be ingrained into their culture to the same extent.

There are dirt poor Chinese girls in China, but how many are targeting rich westerners for dishonest financial purposes? I've never heard a Chinese scam story where a foreign guy marries up a local girl and gets taken to the cleaners. Again, I'm sure there are some isolated examples but this kind of thing is rare. It's practically commonplace and tolerated in the Philippines.

The attitude of most onlookers is "Well it's a foreigner. He's rich anyway so why not let her steal from him? He won't miss the money."

Yes these foreigners may be dumb and naive, but many were just looking for a good wife to have a family with.

(09-06-2015 03:34 AM)Enigma Wrote:  Go meet a Vietnamese girl, marry her and bring her to the UK after knowing her for 6 months and let me know how that works out.

Obviously you are saying this in jest. But yes, Vietnamese girls are known for being good LTR material. That doesn't mean I would marry up any random girl from there. But based on all the reports I've heard, they don't have the same scam mentality as many chicks here and they aren't nearly as hypergamous. It's cultural.

And dude, this is a message board. People are going to have different experiences and opinions. If I posted every time I disagreed with a particular point someone made I wouldn't have any time left in the day. Just sayin'. Laugh

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(09-06-2015 02:00 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  
(09-06-2015 01:39 AM)dreambig Wrote:  Fruit and vegetables are surprisingly expensive

Surprisingly enough, fruit and vegetables aren’t that cheap compared to what you’d expect in such a tropical country. Many Filipinos seem to barely eat any fruit or vegetables. It’s just meat, rice and junk food. You can find OK prices in the markets, but the stores really take the cake with their pricing. I’m not sure what the reason is for this. You’d think that fruit would be easy to grow here.

I agree with mostly everything else but I don't think this is true. I actually found people who would provide me with free coconuts.

Nutritious and vitamin rich vegetables are almost nothing cost wise unless you're shopping for kale and spinach. Swap that for malunggay, chayote, morning glory, chili leaves, other native vegetables. They are equally nutritious. It's dirt cheap.

Fruit is not more or less expensive than neighboring countries. You need to go by seasons. Mango season is about 2 months March-April in Thailand. I think it's slightly longer in the P.I.

Go shop at the fresh markets too. You'll find a lot of good stuff for give away prices. Just get your little filipina to do the shopping and negotiating Smile.


Btw the meat in the Philippines, especially in the supermarket is low grade. They have "aussie" beef at cocaine per gram prices available but you really need to know a quality local butcher or someone who owns a decent piggery to get real quality.

The SM meat is really shit..tough, occasionally strange tasting, and not even what is advertised at times. Bored and low paid backroom workers have been known to dump in ground chicken, pork, and beef together at the end of the day giving it a stir reselling it the next.

You'd be way better off getting the butcher at the fresh market slicing you off a rump. The part where flies don't land on that is.

Admittedly I've been lazy about seeking out the better deals on fruit and veg. That's some good info you posted there. All the supermarkets seem to charge western prices (or more) which surprised me.

As for the meat, my local Robinsons is pretty legit. They sell pretty much anything you can think of, including plenty of meat-on-the bone, my personal favourite. Most lechon manok joints have been great also.

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(09-06-2015 05:08 AM)Enigma Wrote:  
(09-06-2015 02:00 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  Btw the meat in the Philippines, especially in the supermarket is low grade. They have "aussie" beef at cocaine per gram prices available but you really need to know a quality local butcher or someone who owns a decent piggery to get real quality.

This may vary by region, because I haven't had a problem with the meat in Davao.

In fact, I consider the cheap, delicious pork one of the perks of living here.

But the meat I buy is all sourced from Mindanao.

Most definitely the closer you are to the source the better the meat will be. Sort of like the girls. Banana The ingredients in most farming provinces is usually better because it's direct from small farms a lot of times. Whereas when you shop in supermarkets in Manila a lot seems to be sourced from some big ass agri plantation farmed by poorly paid slaves and such.

Just regular rice from the rural provinces tastes way better too. Plus the small farms don't spray chemicals everywhere as much. When you shop for vegetables at fresh markets a little bit of holes in the leaves is a pretty good sign of limited spray.
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(09-06-2015 06:28 AM)dreambig Wrote:  Admittedly I've been lazy about seeking out the better deals on fruit and veg. That's some good info you posted there. All the supermarkets seem to charge western prices (or more) which surprised me.

As for the meat, my local Robinsons is pretty legit. They sell pretty much anything you can think of, including plenty of meat-on-the bone, my personal favourite. Most lechon manok joints have been great also.

I've never shopped at Robinsons so it might be better. It really depends, even at the big supermarkets it's inconsistent.

The best thing about the fresh market is the fresh seafood too. You can buy live crab, live shrimp, get fresh coconut milk made, etc.. for less than the supermarket.
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(09-06-2015 06:04 AM)dreambig Wrote:  And dude, this is a message board. People are going to have different experiences and opinions. If I posted every time I disagreed with a particular point someone made I wouldn't have any time left in the day. Just sayin'. Laugh

Really, man? Not too long ago you were PMing me for Phils advice, now I'm not even allowed to reply to you in threads? Huh

I actually agreed with most of what you said in my original post to you. You brought up some interesting points that I wanted to flesh out or add a different perspective to.

I'm just having a conversation. If you didn't want to have a discussion, why post your thoughts in an almost 80-page-long general country thread?

I don't know what it is about these Phil threads that causes the game, self-improvement, red pill, etc. themes from the rest of the forum to go out the window.
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^^Haha. Maybe I was reading things that weren't there.

Things can come across differently in writing and it's been a long week. By all means keep it coming mate.

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CleanSlate returns to the Philippines in 2 months!

This time it will be less of a bang mission, but more of a relaxing trip to the remote islands of Palawan. I need to decompress and unwind. I'll probably take a girl with me, too.

Most likely I will not be putting up the numbers that I did in my first trip, and it will be a shorter trip overall... only 10 days this time. That said, few of those days will be in Manila. Any RVFers there at the time, we should meet up and get a beer.

I'll post specific days and times later.

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(09-10-2015 10:09 AM)CleanSlate Wrote:  CleanSlate returns to the Philippines in 2 months!

This time it will be less of a bang mission, but more of a relaxing trip to the remote islands of Palawan. I need to decompress and unwind. I'll probably take a girl with me, too.

Most likely I will not be putting up the numbers that I did in my first trip, and it will be a shorter trip overall... only 10 days this time. That said, few of those days will be in Manila. Any RVFers there at the time, we should meet up and get a beer.

I'll post specific days and times later.

Will most likely be there (between Davao, Bohol & Palawan) in 2 months as well! Will PM you when I firm up my travel plans.

You mentioned you have 10 day? Try and spent most of it in Palawan if your able!
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Just a heads up for the last two posters CS and RC who are planning coming over in 2 months

Try and avoid arriving in/out of Manila between 15th & 20th November

The APEC Economic Leaders' Meeting is being held in Manila from November 18 to 19th.....as such security is on high alert which in turn will make travel a nightmare. As part of the security measures, the government has already declared November 18 and 19, as special (non-working) days in Metro Manila.

I'll be getting away over to Thailand while this is on
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Shit. I just booked my trip to palawan from Manila on November 15, coming back to Manila on 19. Should I go to the airport extra early?

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^ Always. No need to tell you how traffic is in Manila even on regular days. When I took my flight out I took a taxi early, but not early enough to arrive without stress. Just go way early, and sit at the airport sbux while you wait for your flight.
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(09-11-2015 12:19 PM)Malo Wrote:  ^ Always. No need to tell you how traffic is in Manila even on regular days. When I took my flight out I took a taxi early, but not early enough to arrive without stress. Just go way early, and sit at the airport sbux while you wait for your flight.

I like the famale security guards at the airport. The uniform with the white shirt and blue pants. The pants are tight and sexy.

Take care of those titties for me.
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(09-11-2015 12:47 PM)Dusty Wrote:  
(09-11-2015 12:19 PM)Malo Wrote:  ^ Always. No need to tell you how traffic is in Manila even on regular days. When I took my flight out I took a taxi early, but not early enough to arrive without stress. Just go way early, and sit at the airport sbux while you wait for your flight.

I like the famale security guards at the airport. The uniform with the white shirt and blue pants. The pants are tight and sexy.

Well, if I'm running late for a flight, charming those female security guards to allow me to bypass the line is always an option, isn't it? Laugh

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^ Doing it my way, you can chat up the chicks in sbux. Some crazy Asian hotties there when I was sitting there. So, either way haha.
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You should be ok flying domestic on the 15th but I would expect delays

Arriving back in Manila on the 19th should be ok if in the morning....if in the afternoon good luck!

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Thanks PacFan, looks like I'm ok on the 15th morning. Flying back on 19th in the evening... I'll just roll with the punches.

Sbux = starbucks.

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Yep starbucks, not my favorite at all but a good airport solution.

The drink I like the most in Manila is the Pandan juice they sell at Zagu (they're everywhere). Give it a try if you haven't.

Their Ube drink is also nice but not as much. The other drinks they have are disappointing in my opinion.
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(08-30-2015 04:07 AM)RawGod Wrote:  
(08-29-2015 07:19 PM)DejudeandRice Wrote:  *Cue "the twilight zone" theme music* - Imagine if you will, a lifetime of struggle for eons until one day a spaceship lands in the Phils, alien gets out and like a santa clause from Mars, starts whipping out millions of space aged gagits that links poor 3rd world filipinas with leaders of the free-world aka "heaven on earth" (america/uk/etc). The only thing that is necessary is for English to be comprehensible and lie believable. If so, a whole family (generation) could be saves from dire poverty.

To you, that might seem like "over kill" in my analogy but they are "this close!" to winning the lotto, (a lottery that soooo many other filipinas have already won, showing off green cards, citizenship, jewelry, houses, cars..etc.
Hell, they will "play" as many "tickets" as they can to win. The only loyalty is that of their family/tribe. Lie, steal, cheat, play you for years only to ditch you in the end.

Facebook is Not an innocent tool for attention, it is the vice (that's why they have 2+ accounts that they will rarely tell you about) they use (along with about 10 others) to track down their pray.

If you let that sink in for a while, you will understand its a sex war. They give it up not because they are whores (just look to the HISO kinds that won't give it up), they are whores or sacrifices for their families.

So as long as you understand they're after a prize with much more determination than one can ever imagine.

It is staggering until you see it at first had - a 20 year old girl from the provinces with no money and no education, snagging (relatively) rich guys from the other side of the world, to the point of marriage and being swept off to the land of milk and honey.

They do it armed with just a cheap phone and a hard-wired cunning and persistence. They'll be contacting a dozen guys at once, calling them honey and babe, just the most simple-minded stuff imaginable. And it works, for the lucky ones.

It's kind of an inspiration for marketers like myself.

A lot of truth inside this post.
I agree also with the people who say that the only way to win the game in the Philippines, but also in most countries of SEA is to create a harem, keeping it rotating and never never never fall into the trap of starting a serious LTR in SEA (only exception might be with a woman from the upper class, but surprise^^ - in a high %-tage those women are not after foreign men due to certain aspects like that as a foreign men you lack social and family power, which are both very important parameters in SEA. In addition to that, there is some social stigma, as well).

That means, if you really should recognize that you get emotional attached to a member of your harem, you should in my opinion immediately cut any further contact off, period.

I just wonder how you should adjust your game then?
I mean, clearly it should be a little softer then in the western world, but I am starting to wonder if you should maybe even go extreme, when it is only about banging the lowest value women in SEA (for all travellers in this thread: sorry, but I am speaking about your hookups from tinder, DIA, pinalove, FCP, etc... - no offense though, there is nothing wrong about that and I am doing this as a longtime expat myself. But for your own sake, please be aware of it and do not bullshit yourself like many toutists are doing it by thinking that you are the big deal a d a kin of a rockstar in SEA.)

What do I mean with going extreme regards to the game you are using in SEA, especially in the Philippines?
I am talking about faking that you are a total beta nice guy who would be the best white knight in the world, so that you can trap as many "white knight"-hunters into your bed and then dump and drop them , or potentially include them in your harem and keep them for a while there, but of course never get seriously involved.

I really think that such an approach might, as crazy as it sounds, even increase your "successrate" regards to this lowest value women in SEA, within this special environmental situation.
I personally would not do it though, because I am absolutely not willing to pay the price to give up the selfdevelopment-component which game brings especially for us men and also then the whole process would loose most of the joy for me.

But I wonder what your opinion on this thoughts are?
No offense, but I would appreciate answers, especially from game-aware men, who also are living longtime in SEA, that means that by all respect, I am a little bit less interested into opinions of people who are not very SEA-experienced (yeah, here I mean also you, who have visited 1 or 2 times PH for a 2-4 weeks vacation^^)
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(08-18-2015 04:55 PM)the-dream Wrote:  I recently returned from 8 months in the Philippines, 5 of which were in Manila. I'm 2000 words deep into writing a datasheet and I'm trying to make it as extensive as possible so let me know if there's any topics that you would like including in it.

I cannot help myself but I feel the urge to answer it, but do not take it offensive and personally.
Please do not write a datasheet and the reason is simple:

For sure you are a better candidate to write a datasheet about SEA, than many people here who have already done so after their 3-4 weeks vacations (those people also set totally wrong expectations to forum members who then will read those creations), because you at least have been 8 months here, but 8 months are in my opinion just not enough to really have enough clue in order to be qualified to provide here solid material.
Again, please do not take this offensive.

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Quick update on budget living in Davao. Renting a 3 story, 4 bed, 3 bath townshouse (took my dependent expenses out as i have kids).

Budget September 2015 (in PHP)

Electricity...5000
Water...500
Phone...600
Food...16000
Taxi...3000
Internet...1700
Rent...25000

Total...51800 (~$1127)

Give or take a few pisos depending on how you want to live. No entertainment or extra expenses, just the basics. You're welcome.
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(09-24-2015 01:20 PM)Haxton Wrote:  
(08-18-2015 04:55 PM)the-dream Wrote:  I recently returned from 8 months in the Philippines, 5 of which were in Manila. I'm 2000 words deep into writing a datasheet and I'm trying to make it as extensive as possible so let me know if there's any topics that you would like including in it.

I cannot help myself but I feel the urge to answer it, but do not take it offensive and personally.
Please do not write a datasheet and the reason is simple:

For sure you are a better candidate to write a datasheet about SEA, than many people here who have already done so after their 3-4 weeks vacations (those people also set totally wrong expectations to forum members who then will read those creations), because you at least have been 8 months here, but 8 months are in my opinion just not enough to really have enough clue in order to be qualified to provide here solid material.
Again, please do not take this offensive.

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I think as long as person prefaces their data-sheet with detailed stats about themselves, and their data-sheet is detailed, forthright, and introspective, it would be valuable to all.
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I was going to reply to this troll Haxton that it's not his place to try to shut anybody up, but I see that he is already banned.

But to respond to his trollish comments about whether or not visitors are qualified to write datasheets, here is why I think the answer is yes:

-Visitors can give the latest specific info about the hottest night clubs, bars and other spots.
-Provide visitor's perspective. For example, Filippino Cupid may may not be very useful for a resident but is definitely good for visitors.
-Comparisons with other cities visited recently - which ones are better?
-Finally, locals are not going to write regular updates on everything that's happening in a particular city or country, neither are they expected to, so the more information the better
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Tagbilaran, Bohol, Philippines Metro Area
(Includes Panglao Island and surrounding areas)


Tagbilaran
City of Friendship
Population 110,000 and surrounding area 200,000 within 15km of the city center.
Capital of Bohol(population 1.35million).
8 colleges and Universities




Getting Here:
Tagbilaran Port has 11 daily fast ferries that come from Cebu and vice versa everyday. The trip takes 1 hour 45 minutes to 2 hours. Weesam Express/OceanJet, Supercat, or 2GO. Some of the ferries have wifi (hit or miss) and most play movies on the TV screens so you can past the time. There is also a fast ferry that goes to Dumaguete 3 times a day and vice versa.
You have slower ferries and RoRo ferries that go to many of the major Philippine Islands (Luzon, Mindanao, Panay, etc.) and smaller tourist destinations in the area Camaguin and Apo Island

Tagbilaran Airport has 8 daily flights to Manila and back. The airlines that service here are Air Asia. Cebu Pacific, and Philippine Airlines. The cost for a one way ticket can range from 400 pesos to 2500 pesos depending on when you buy it and if they are having a sale. The rule of thumb with Air Asia and Cebu Pacific is the earlier you buy it the cheaper flight ticket.

Tagbilaran Airport is currently is in the process of being replaced by the New Bohol International Airport (under construction) on Panglao Island by Alona Beach. The expected completion date is mid to late 2017.

Transportation:

The frequent modes of transportation are the trike, jeepney, or motorbike. In the past year, I have seen the number of cars here on the road increase by at least 30 percent (which are replacing motorbikes as the main mode of transport for families in Bohol).

The cost of transportation is cheap around the city or to outside the city.

Trike in the city: 35 pesos max
Trike to ouside the city: 200 pesos max (ie Alona Beach area) from Center, Airport or Port.

Taxi or Van Transport to Alona Beach area: 425 pesos to 600 pesos max.

Jeepney from Alona Beach to Tagbilaran 20-30 pesos max
Jeepney in Tagbilaran 10-15 pesos max

Out of all the transportation modes available I recommend renting or buying a motorbike. Allows the ease of getting around and not having to pre arrange transportation. It allows you to filter through traffic in Tagbilaran instead of sitting.
To rent or buy a motorbike is inexpensive. To buy a used one one cost 13000 pesos and up. A new one starts from 40000 pesos and up.
To rent a motorbike cost about 300-800 pesos per day depending on the type of bike. Monthly rentals start at 3000 pesos and up.

Another plus with a motorbike is stopping to talk to a cute girl that you see walking or one that waves to you. More about that later on.

When negotiating prices stick with the price that you first give out, especially when you are in a area with many trikes and habal-habal(guys that give you a ride on the back of their motorbike). The same goes for renting a motorbike. Somebody will take the bait. They are all competing for your business plus uncoordinated unlike Thailand with the taxi mafia setting prices (Phuket example) and no taxi driver going under that price.


Where to Stay:

Short term:
Center of Tagbilaran

Places to stay in the center
Casa Juana (beside Metro Centre Hotel)
City Lodge
Nisa Travelers Hotel (on top of BDO, diagonal to BQ Mall),
Uptown Lodge,
Regent Plaza Hotel,
Darunday Manor Hotel (across the street from Plaza Rizal),
Soledad Suites
Bohol Tourist Inn(beside Univeristy of Bohol)
Metro Centre Hotel
Bohol Tropics Resort(you can see it when you pull in the fast ferry terminal) Big green building with tinted windows)
Plus many pension houses and more hotels.

All the places I mentioned mostly stay under 2000 pesos a night except the Metro Centre Hotel(regular rate).
If you stay at the Metro Centre Hotel (Garcia Ave the main road in the center) then you are 300 meters one way BISU(Bohol Island State University), University of Bohol, Bohol Institue of Technology. Across the street is STI College and PMI College, 300 meters the opposite way is BQ MAll, Tagbilaran City Square, Alturas Mall(newest mall, currently under expansion), Holy Name University downtown campus. at the end of Garcia Ave is Plaza Rizal in front of Saint Josephs Cathedral.
Just a note that Metro Centre mall and Bohol Tropics both have clubs during the night time. Quality depends on who is patronizing the places at the time, plus you have the gringo hunters and semi pros. I stay away from those girls but whatever floats your boat.

If you are pipelining then staying in Tagbilaran is best because its easy for girls across the province to reach you by bus. Most of them come to Tagbilaran at least once a week to do their grocery shopping, go to the bank, and doing other miscellaneous things. Another option to meet girls is at Island City Mall on the edge of the city. This is where the air conditioned buses from around the province has a terminal (Southern Star). Plus its where the City Market is located. To get to Island City Mall is only 10 minutes from the center via Clarin Ave.

Short term stay as a tourist:
Alona Beach (main tourist beach on Panglao Island)

You have many options opening up every month to stay. So its impossible for me to keep up with all of them. 4 new large resorts are coming online in the next two months. One of them over 450 rooms (Hennan Resort). Check Agoda for the best prices.
The best place you can stay for your money is Panglao Regents Park which on Agoda is usually around 1500 pesos and up. The rooms are large, good access to the beach(only 150 meters), pool, gym, restaurant, bar, and free wifi. You can find places cheaper, all the way up to the major four and five star resorts close to Alona Beach that charge 5000 pesos and up.

Other beaches are:

Doljo Beach
Dumaluan Beach (the best beach on the island)
Danao Beach
Momo Beach
San Isidro Beach
Bikini Beach
Panglao Beach

Clubs and Bars coming online at a rate of one every 2 months.
Many water sports activities in the area.
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RE: The Philippines thread
(09-24-2015 11:52 PM)calwinston Wrote:  Short term stay as a tourist:
Alona Beach (main tourist beach on Panglao Island)

Hey Calwinston,

Thanks for the details on this report. Actually, your timing with this report was good since I will be heading to Davao in 12 days for a few weeks of training then perhaps head to Bohol for the 5i50 Triathlon (https://vimeo.com/107676852) in Nov.

Regarding Panglao Island, I know it is a flat race course but could you shed some light on the road conditions on Dauis-Panglao Road? It would help to know if the conditions of the roads are very poor (cracked, bumpy, heavy w/ debris) or freshly paved? The video above shows me mixed results.

I am bringing my TT bike but may pack my Aero 808's or stock wheels depending on the road conditions. Can't bring both.

Also, how long will you be staying there before you head to EE?

Thanks
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