Post: #1851

74 pages?
Ya took me 5 days to go through just 30 posts while I was in Manila.
Somebody gotta summarize all that info right now.

Post: #1852

(08-16-2015 10:55 PM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  

(08-15-2015 06:53 PM)Ben Garrison Wrote:  It's very common in my experience for filipinas that are already engaged with a foreigner to still use the dating sites and be very much DTF, do you guys ever give in to the temptation? It's happened to me, although in my case I wasn't aware until after the deed was done and saw on her facebook that she was engaged.

Occasionally.

I've had different girls tell me they were supported throughout their college years by a foreign sponsor or are currently been "courted" by some chump from _X_ country who will be visiting soon. If the guys don't know what they are getting into then that's their problem.

I personally don't give a fuck about banging some absentee guy's girl and neither should you.

I was told by vets when I first got to the Phils, 1 rule "never trust a filipina, never" that rule comes back to life with every girl I date/screw. If there are some good pinays then you've found your needle in a haystack.

Post: #1853

Agreed.

Many pinays definitely juggle multiple balls at the same time and often have a backup method.

I dumped a girl recently, within 4 days she already had a visa and flight to Europe by some guy wanting to marry her!

One girl I was banging I found her facebook by typing in her phone number in the search. I actually found 2 facebook accounts, one which looked normal, and one with a load of pictures of her (she's 19) all loved up with some older dude (50-60+), apparently they are engaged!

Another one, I was getting a bit too emotionally involved with one girl. I went on a business meeting in Bangkok and decided to stay for a few weeks. She then texted me from a +39 number - her fuck up, she thought iMessage didn't reveal your phone number. Why? I knew her ex-bf was Italian and they had been planning a trip to Europe. She said she'd cancelled everything because she was with me and didn't want to loose me - huh, me going to bangkok for a few weeks means she thinks she could get away with it, an all expenses paid for trip to Italy, while I am in BKK she thinks I'll never know, doesn't that sound nice? Stupid bitch texting me from that number I put the pieces of the puzzle together. When we met up several months later I told her how much of a bitch she was. She's crying and telling me how much she loves me. I'm like, bitch, honey, fuck you. What did you think was going to happen, bitch? She played me and she tried to rope me back in by telling me how much she still loves me etc. no, no, no. She has to go.

I look around and I see with foreigners with Pinay LTRs and I'm just thinking, she's playing you dude. My trust in these girls have diminished to almost zero. Sure they all aren't like that but one needs to be aware of the warning signs because many of them are players and will jump to a different cock at a moments notice if the offer is better. Maybe my pinay LTR game isn't tight enough, or maybe this is just the nature of these girls.

I guess a main reason is because these girls are so desperate to be taken care of. Desperate desperate desperate. They need to juggle and have multiple options because they are desperate. And don't get me started on their family too. They encourage them to be gold diggers because they wanted to be taken care of too! If you want the girl, she's comes as a package. You need to look after her financially and her family too. Yes, to many pinays us white guys are just another walking dollar sign in their eyes and in their families eyes too.

One big red flag is seeing a few foreign guys they are friends with on facebook. They've all probably banged her or at least are orbiters and if they are chumps will be courting her from abroad because they aren't getting laid in their own countries.

So trust these girls? Definitely not. Have a harem, work on your game and increase your notch count? Absolutely. This is the way to go in the Philippines I think.

Post: #1854

While I agree that you have to be super suspicious in the Philippines because many of the girls are in extreme poverty and looking for any way out they can find. Filipinas are not awful girls by any means and most of them are very sweet. I have a hot, 40 year old cougar in my harem there who owns a couple of condos. Although I don't know her well, she seems very legit. If I asked her to commit to me, I am 99.9% sure she would be faithful.

Younger girls are much more likely to ride the cock carousel than older girls in general. This has very little to do with the Philippines. My youngest harem member in the Phils is a super cute 21 year old and I'm just waiting for her to jump to another guy. Not because she's a slut, but she's 21 and sowing her wild oats. That's simply what 21 year olds do. It doesn't matter what culture you are in, younger women aren't much different than young guys, they try on different hats. It's the same in Western countries. In the Philippines the girls are just sweeter more feminine and perhaps better at hiding it. I think this sometimes leads guys to think they have been royally fucked over when a young girl swings with another guy.

Post: #1855

Robert, not having a go at you mate but the age makes no difference, if anything more experienced!

The bird who I thought was a keeper was also a very hot 40 odd year old (I go for older women) and yet she was without doubt the best liar I have come across in my 10 years living here!

Your 40 year old cougar may well be legit, but if she still looks tidy and turns heads then I wouldn't be so sure about it.

I hope it's not the same bird I knew:-)

Post: #1856

(08-25-2015 11:33 PM)PacFan Wrote:  Robert, not having a go at you mate but the age makes no difference, if anything more experienced!

The bird who I thought was a keeper was also a very hot 40 odd year old (I go for older women) and yet she was without doubt the best liar I have come across in my 10 years living here!

Your 40 year old cougar may well be legit, but if she still looks tidy and turns heads then I wouldn't be so sure about it.

I hope it's not the same bird I knew:-)

Thanks for that man. Probably not the same girl. I met her in the supermarket, not online. But by any chance did yours have an almost perfect body with very large, firm breast that are so perfect they almost seem fake?

In any case, she's my 3rd favorite Pinay girl so even if she is full of shit, it's no big deal.

Post: #1857

PM sent RP:-)

Post: #1858

Oh come on, you guys are going to keep us in suspense? You aren't by any chance eskimo brothers? ;-)

Joking aside, in response to the never-trust-a-filipina-they-juggle-multiple-lovers theme here, western women aren't any better, only bitchier and/or fatter.

In my trip there, I frequently got the feeling that the girl and I were playing the same game on each other. If we both get what we want, great. Win-win. I'm just not totally convinced that it's all about dollar signs to them, because I feel a lot of them just want a dirty romp just like we do. Maybe it's because I avoided the ones who whine and complain from the outset, as I felt they were fishing for white knights with deep pockets... I think that's the kind of trap a lot of guys fall into at their peril.

Post: #1859

CS, different women, thankfully:-)

Post: #1860

(08-26-2015 12:09 AM)CleanSlate Wrote:  Oh come on, you guys are going to keep us in suspense? You aren't by any chance eskimo brothers? ;-)

Joking aside, in response to the never-trust-a-filipina-they-juggle-multiple-lovers theme here, western women aren't any better, only bitchier and/or fatter.

In my trip there, I frequently got the feeling that the girl and I were playing the same game on each other. If we both get what we want, great. Win-win. I'm just not totally convinced that it's all about dollar signs to them, because I feel a lot of them just want a dirty romp just like we do. Maybe it's because I avoided the ones who whine and complain from the outset, as I felt they were fishing for white knights with deep pockets... I think that's the kind of trap a lot of guys fall into at their peril.

Yes! As a guy I met there said, "The women here are just as horny and DTF as we guys are."

My experience in the west is if a women wants to sleep with you she will play all kinds of games and try to get you to play games too. In my month in SE Asia if a women wanted me she would follow my lead until she ended up on my bed with her legs spread.

Post: #1861

(08-26-2015 12:09 AM)CleanSlate Wrote:  Joking aside, in response to the never-trust-a-filipina-they-juggle-multiple-lovers theme here, western women aren't any better, only bitchier and/or fatter.

If that is true then I think what might be at play here is that being a westerner in the Philippines we have greater access to girls and the dating scene than we do than back in the west, so we get to see a lot more of women behaviour.

For those guys who have killer game in the west, they probably see the same as what average western dudes do in the Philippines.

Post: #1862

Gents, I'm having a great time in Bali with a 23 y/o Indonesian flight attendant (that I deflowered a while back) and I just received a surprising message from a chick I was seeing in Cebu City last year.

She was asking how I am, and about my daughter (I have a daughter from a previous marriage).

She then sends me a pic of her holding a (very white) 2 month old baby girl.

"Your daughter"? I asked her. "Our daughter" she replied.

I have no idea why she would wait all that time before revealing that information to me.

Feeling very mixed emotions right now. Obviously proud, but also a bit down because it seems she doesn't want me involved in any way (considering she hasn't even asked for any financial support, which I'd be more than willing to do). The odd thing is, I kept in touch with her after I left the Phils last year, even hinting at flying her over here to stay with me for a while (which never eventuated), and all the while she kept this a secret from me.

The other thing is, she travelled to the US to give birth, so my daughter is a US citizen (her and her extended family are now living in NY).

Everything adds up to her being mine, but I'd obviously need to carry out a paternity test to be sure.

Head is spinning a bit right now.

Any insight into child support and process for seeking paternity testing (US based) would be appreciated.

PM if need be.

Post: #1863

WE, interesting post mate and I hope you are ok.

Can I just ask how did the girl in Cebu get into the US? You mention extended family in NY, but from my experience it would only be immediate family (Mother or Father) that would be able to sponsor her visa?

Post: #1864

Thanks PacFan. Yeah, that's what I meant. I think it's her brother and some other relatives that are living there.

She's now back in the Phils, which I imagine is for the purposes of having the baby looked after. She then plans to go back to the US once the baby is a bit older and she has work there.

Post: #1865

^Her actions are shady as fuck @Windom. I dated a pinay (2 actually). Before we broke up, she spoke about being pregnant. Not long after we break up, she's with a new guy and has a kid a year later (earlier this year). I hope all is well with you and that you get things settled. I can imagine that it could be a bit stressful as well.

Post: #1866

@Windom Earle

If you are serious about being involved in this child's life. (if proven to be yours) Then I would first try and do things outside the legal system. Meaning you do the paternity test by simply asking the girl for a paternity test. Express your interest in being a part of the child's life and such.

Then if you are proven to be the father you should consult with an attorney in USA and probably one in Philippines given the child is there now.

Good luck but don't get wound up over it yet given how strange it seems that she wouldn't tell you until now. Maybe another man was involved and now he has dropped off the radar so she think she can get you on the hook.

Post: #1867

Thanks CamelToe.

She has just now confirmed that she's ok for me to organise a paternity test.

Post: #1868

She is clever and well-organized, your Filipina...

She waited until she had a brother able to invite her to the States, in order to go give birth in the US: so now she has an "anchor-baby" (sorry if the word is a bit ugly indeed)...
And, she has a biological US father, to whom she will be able to ask money when needs arise... she won't end up hungry or in the street...

So, basically, she ensured her definitive escape from poverty, by careful planning and timely use of pussy... Kudos to her.

(edit: that is not to say she doesn't have true feelings for you actually, man)

Post: #1869

I'm Australian...and the situation would suggest she is bereft of any feelings towards me.

She told me the test would be "a waste of money", which to me implies that, a. she doesn't want me involved in her life, and b. she is not reliant on me financially for support (she is well educated, also fluent in multiple languages).

I guess the prestige of having a mixed baby is value in and of itself to some Pinays, with the importance of familial connection to a biological father not even factoring in her decision making process.

Post: #1870

(08-26-2015 05:07 AM)Windom Earle Wrote:  I'm Australian...and the situation would suggest she is bereft of any feelings towards me.

She told me the test would be "a waste of money", which to me implies that, a. she doesn't want me involved in her life, and b. she is not reliant on me financially for support (she is well educated, also fluent in multiple languages).

I guess the prestige of having a mixed baby is value in and of itself to some Pinays, with the importance of familial connection to a biological father not even factoring in her decision making process.

Ah, if you are Australian and not from the US, her strategy doesn't make sense to me.

Unless, like you are saying, she has serious family money. Then, yes, having a cute Eurasian baby is enough for her to be happy and proud. She doesn't want more, won't ask for money: lucky you, off the hook!

But, mate, a Filipina who doesn't want money and support from a Western man!!... I have trouble comprehending the concept. Kinda like, I don't know, a dolphin in an aquarium refusing fishes, going veggie... Almost unheard of...

Post: #1871

Yes, the whole situation is bizarre to say the least. I'm pressing for answers regarding her motivations/reasoning, but have to be careful I don't agitate too much, considering she could have kept this a secret without ever telling me at all (and may go radio silent on a whim).

Post: #1872

Seeing how the discussion has taken a baby turn I thought I'd share something.

That filipina I was talking about who's with another guy is carrying a child, now, I'm not saying it's mine necessarily, BUT, she did show off an ultrasound and if I understand the information correctly it looks right in line with when I laid her, it can't have been conceived much more than a week off if it isn't mine, the fetal heart rate is dead on course and the shape and size of the fetus fits the timeline (I spent a while looking into this stuff).

Still, she's doing fine with this other, somewhat doughy guy, maybe he's the father, maybe he's a cuckold, without a paternity test no man can ever really know.

I do suspect however that most kanos are probably wrapping it up, and I, well, don't. Not unless I think she might be a pro.

Uberbicep: about the red flag of their having foreign guys on facebook, I don't think that's always a huge deal, a lot of girls just add friends like they're playing pokemon to get up to a few thousands "friends", so almost all of them will have some. Though if they are making cheeky comments on pictures and the like then yeah I agree. Some of these filipinas, the dumb ones, are quite open about how they get fucked and chucked on their facebook, it's depressing and hilarious in equal measure to see how they're all loved up one week and the next they're depressed and threatening to quit facebook (for real this time!). If they're an 8 or something you can see tons of beta orbiters (never pinoy though) cheerleading them and being an emotional tampon with every single post they make about their sordid affairs.

Post: #1873

(08-26-2015 06:38 AM)Ben Garrison Wrote:  I do suspect however that most kanos are probably wrapping it up, and I, well, don't. Not unless I think she might be a pro.

Maybe its time to change that.

Pinays love babies period, with a foreign guy even better, because having an unplanned baby is a 'blessing', even if they cannot afford it. They probably won't be the ones looking after it either, they'll ship it back to the province and send a few thousand pesos each month. So many girls I meet are doing this.

Many girls I spoke with have no idea what chlamydia is too. I went for a checkup recently, it was 1,400P and the doctor said they had only been offering this for a month or so. The doctor said with his previous patients, he phoned all of the hospitals in the area and none of them offered a chlamydia test. Patients wanting this test had to fly to cebu city! Only recently has this one hospital in the area been offering chlamydia tests. Moral of the story is, girls are unaware of STIs and are unlikely to be able to afford a test, even if their local clinic offers it. So I think there is a high number of undiagnosed STIs in the Philippines.

Post: #1874

Manila is STD Central if you are using online game.

After 75+ notches it was amazing how many girls DEMANDED
me to take the condom off. LOL.

The girls F for sport and don't want to use condoms. Should
we be surprised?

Anyone reading this needs to wrap it up no questions asked.

(08-26-2015 08:38 AM)UberBicep Wrote:  

(08-26-2015 06:38 AM)Ben Garrison Wrote:  I do suspect however that most kanos are probably wrapping it up, and I, well, don't. Not unless I think she might be a pro.

Maybe its time to change that.

Pinays love babies period, with a foreign guy even better, because having an unplanned baby is a 'blessing', even if they cannot afford it. They probably won't be the ones looking after it either, they'll ship it back to the province and send a few thousand pesos each month. So many girls I meet are doing this.

Many girls I spoke with have no idea what chlamydia is too. I went for a checkup recently, it was 1,400P and the doctor said they had only been offering this for a month or so. The doctor said with his previous patients, he phoned all of the hospitals in the area and none of them offered a chlamydia test. Patients wanting this test had to fly to cebu city! Only recently has this one hospital in the area been offering chlamydia tests. Moral of the story is, girls are unaware of STIs and are unlikely to be able to afford a test, even if their local clinic offers it. So I think there is a high number of undiagnosed STIs in the Philippines.

Post: #1875

I've been in the Philippines going on 4 years now and have been in 3 relationships of 6+ months each.

First: I caught her stealing money from me.

Second: I left for 2 weeks to Australia to so see my sister after giving birth to her daughter. I came back and she gave me the clap.

Third: I invested a lot in this girl. Brought her to Australia and other trips abroad. She came back to the Philippines 6 weeks earlier than myself after spending 3 months in Australia together. After returning I woke up one morning to the sound of a phone vibrating in her underwear draw. I found the phone and read 100+ messages between herself and a Swedish guy who lives in Cebu (where she's from) detailing their sexual escapades in the 6 weeks that I was gone.

So, all I can say is, never trust a Filipina. No matter what you believe her to be. I'm 27 years old and all the girls were within a few years of myself.

In the meantime, I'm still here, and I've got a 19 year old college student visiting me after class this afternoon for a quickie before she goes home to her French boyfriend. Do i care? No, I don't.