Post: #1

Link To Video

Quote: …undocumented illegal immigrants who have been assigned to the position of commissioner.

The Huntington Park City Council is being paid with taxpayers’ money to do a job within rules and regulations. According to your board behind you, it says, “Where there is no vision, the people perish.” I want to paraphrase that and say: Where there is no law, the people perish.

In the U.S. we have one rule of law. I also want to talk about the Fourteenth Amendment, which was added to the Constitution in regards to blacks being given birthright citizenship because blacks helped build this country, including the White House—twice.

(Interjection: Right on!)

Please do not tarnish the name of black slaves by comparing them to your plight. There’s no comparison. None.

Black slaves did not break into this country, okay. They were brought here against their will. Also, black slaves are not immigrants. Immigrants are people with a choice, they come here by choice. Black slaves didn’t have choice.

That’s offensive to me because I’m a descendant of a black slave. And trust me, Ancestry.com works and I can trace my people back from when they landed here on the boat. I know the village where my people came from in Africa, OK? So please, do not try to get away with using that. That’s very offensive.

This country has been good to illegal immigrants. You have been given jobs, houses, tax money, free tax money, welfare, Social Security, they open up business for you guys, et cetera.

None—I don’t know of any illegal aliens who have been hung from a tree. I don’t know of any of them illegal aliens who have dogs been sicced on. So that’s very offensive for you to sit up here and allow these people to say that and get away with it. Things that people are going to feel sorry for. That’s very offensive, OK? Do the right thing.

My people get three strikes. I have a nephew in jail now–22 years!–for something he didn’t do.

My people commit a crime, they go to jail. You people commit a crime, they get amnesty. It is wrong…

(Cheers, applause)

And we’re not going to have it. We’re not going to have a set of laws for you people and a set of laws for us.

And if you can’t follow the law, talking about “perish,” your job needs to perish.

You get paid with taxpayers’ money and you are misappropriating taxpayers’ money when you pick up your check.

(Cheers, applause)

Trump is going to win in a landslide.

Finally, European Americans have an alliance with another group against the anti-American, anti-middle class, anti-rule of law, elite of this country.

Post: #2

Great to see.

I read some where that the strongest move that the Black Lives Matter movement could make would be to start a move to keep African Americans from voting lock step with Democrats. If they really want their voices to be heard and their concerns to be considered, they need to show that their vote cannot be taken for granted.

Glad to see that more people are waking up to the reality that faces this country.

Post: #3

Its good to see more people turning, but at the sametime. That lady or her immediate family weren't slaves, or chased by dogs or lynched. Thats like me saying "My great x4 grandparents were tarred and feathered and run out of america to canada for being british loyalists. So when you say things bad about the english, its offensive to me"

Its still the victim olympics, but at least the outcome is the way I want it to go.

Post: #4

(08-19-2015 09:18 AM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  Its good to see more people turning, but at the sametime. That lady or her immediate family weren't slaves, or chased by dogs or lynched. Thats like me saying "My great x4 grandparents were tarred and feathered and run out of america to canada for being british loyalists. So when you say things bad about the english, its offensive to me"

Its still the victim olympics, but at least the outcome is the way I want it to go.

Yes but many African Americans today are impacted by America's racist policies from the past. The thanks we get from this country that we helped build.

Post: #5

(08-19-2015 09:18 AM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  Its good to see more people turning, but at the sametime. That lady or her immediate family weren't slaves, or chased by dogs or lynched. Thats like me saying "My great x4 grandparents were tarred and feathered and run out of america to canada for being british loyalists. So when you say things bad about the english, its offensive to me"

Its still the victim olympics, but at least the outcome is the way I want it to go.

I too grow weary of the narrative that the entire US owes the descendants of slavery, which has been abolished for 150 years, a tonne of deference and free goodies.

That said, what appears to have set this woman off was someone comparing the plight of modern illegal immigrants to black slaves in the US from ages gone by.

She attempted to contextualize her rant:

Quote:What I said last night was not my intention. What kind of disturbed me is when someone got up and talked about slavery. There is no comparison. They need to stop pretending like they are being mistreated. They have pushed and disturbed the community. They have 95% of the jobs and they still act like they are mistreated.

Yes I am black, but I’m an American. They are getting away with murder. I was in Sacramento recently, and I protested about Kate Steinle. Then they get a get-out-of-jail-free card, and my nephew is in jail. They release them–30,000, if not more–every year. They put them right back on the street and it’s not right.

The black community–we’re tired of them citing civil rights because of people like Al Sharpton. They are being treated better than American citizens with our tax money.

I’m just tired. I lost my job. I was told I did not speak Spanish and I was terminated from my job. Even now it’s difficult to get a job. They told me I was fired for not being able to speak Spanish. I applied to McDonald’s and they told me that they don’t hire blacks–and it was a black owner. I filed with EEOC (Equal Employment Opportunity Commission). I have my documentation. I was denied a job….But they didn’t do anything. They are putting illegal immigrants before blacks. I applied for three jobs with the County of L.A. and they didn’t give me a job, and when I filed a complaint they called me a racist. I ended up homeless.

We have a rule of law. Why can’t they obey the law? Little do they know they are making us [Americans] closer. We are standing as Americans, as all races and colors. They want to throw out the race card. We are tired of being abused, and it’s got to stop.

Our politicians are giving them the power in the fight against us–the people using our tax money, writing these laws and using them against us….

Yes, black lives matter, but if we had jobs we wouldn’t be put in these situations to be attacked. A lot of parental rights have been restricted and are being taken away. There’s a lot in the black neighborhood that needs to be worked on. We need to get our house in order first and we need to get jobs back to get back on track.

We have no recourse. We are not being represented. Now we’re in the shadows, we are being buried in the shadows.

When put in that context, I understand her reaction quite a bit more. It is a genuine reaction from many poor Americans - i.e. how can someone who is not here lawfully get a job, get welfare and released early from jail?

Post: #6

(08-19-2015 09:58 AM)MdWanderer Wrote:  

(08-19-2015 09:18 AM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  Its good to see more people turning, but at the sametime. That lady or her immediate family weren't slaves, or chased by dogs or lynched. Thats like me saying "My great x4 grandparents were tarred and feathered and run out of america to canada for being british loyalists. So when you say things bad about the english, its offensive to me"

Its still the victim olympics, but at least the outcome is the way I want it to go.

Yes but many African Americans today are impacted by America's racist policies from the past. The thanks we get from this country that we helped build.

This part is key to the discussion and her argument. In order for people to continue to improve their lives despite that, they need opportunity to fulfill that. If immigrants are taking up all the opportunities she and others in her position need in order to get their daily needs met, it should be the duty of the state to balance those interests, preferably in her favor because like she said before, she was born here and had no choice to come here.

This country needs to take care of it's own. It's not a difficult concept to grasp or understand. Most countries in the world pursue the interests of it's people. America is unique in a sense because the people who run it now, genuinely have zero interest in the well being of it's own citizens. The US government's interests do not align in anyway shape or form with the people born here. They represent the interests of the corporations, plutocrats, and other vested financial interests they wantonly allow in here. Immigration has historically been very financially lucrative here. They would want it even more so nowadays because nuclear family is not a priority at all and hedonistic behavior produces nothing of value.

This black woman is fed up and you can tell. I recall another thread with another thread, (maybe Korben posted as well I do not remember now), where she went on a rant in from of the local news crew about illegal immigrants. That makes me wonder about a few things:

1. Will any of these people have a red pill epiphany and mentally check out of the system like all of us and other similar people have? When will black people as a whole understand that the world will never be truly fair and this is a dog eat dog country and they need to drop all the blind loyalty bullshit and look after Number 1? Again that is more redpill.

2. Will this ultimately do nothing, then when the next wave comes from (I dunno, Africa or other Central and South American places?), will Mexicans and any remaining destitute blacks continue to complain?

3. Will these continuing events help shape the already in progress rift of black people in regards to black politics? Can or will it shift a majority off the democrat party, or will it cause most to utterly reject both parties for collusion?

4. At some point, votes are votes. All politics are local. TPTB of this false 2 party system cannot bite the hands that feed them. Unless they can get around that pesky voter issue with something more elaborate than blatant vote fraud, they find themselves in a position that reverses control somehow. I would not hold my breath on that though.

Post: #7

Democrats have done absolutely zero to help blacks as a whole and only get their votes by stirring up resentment. I would suggest all blacks that would usually vote Democrat vote for Trump in this election and see what happens.

What do they have to lose? If their lives don't improve with Trump then by all means I would say go back to voting for the Democrats.

Post: #8

(08-19-2015 09:58 AM)MdWanderer Wrote:  

(08-19-2015 09:18 AM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  Its good to see more people turning, but at the sametime. That lady or her immediate family weren't slaves, or chased by dogs or lynched. Thats like me saying "My great x4 grandparents were tarred and feathered and run out of america to canada for being british loyalists. So when you say things bad about the english, its offensive to me"

Its still the victim olympics, but at least the outcome is the way I want it to go.

Yes but many African Americans today are impacted by America's racist policies from the past. The thanks we get from this country that we helped build.

You've got to be kidding me. Please tell me about at least 3 of the racist polices of the past that are holding back ONLY black people today. The 'racist policies of the past' didn't seem to stop us from having a black president. It doesn't seem to have stopped Ben Carson, Colin Powell or Herman Cain either

If its racist policies of the past that keep black people poor, then why are there so many poor white people in appalachia? and when I say poor, I mean shoeless kids in a trailerpark with no family car poor. Shouldn't they be drinking mint juleps on the porch handed to them by black butlers because of the white privilege afforded to them by the 'racist policies of the past'

I live in a former KKK stronghold, where people burned and blew up things in opposition to de-segregation. If black families were still 'held down' they would be held down HERE more than anywhere else in america. So then why do I have black neighbors in my white bread as shit suburban cul-de sac? Shouldn't the 'racist policies of from the past' mean that the 3 cops on my street should be beating them for resisting arrest on a daily basis or at least lighting up crosses on their lawns at night?

I mean maybe the black US citizens that were imprisoned in internment camps in WWII are still suffering today...Oh wait WHAT?! Those people were japanese not black?! Thats impossible black people are the only people ever abused by the government! Why aren't there #japaneselives matter protests today, why aren't they all living in ghettos and suffering from 'racist policies of the past'.

However, I do agree that black people have the most to gain from the deportation of illegal aliens. The question is, will they actually seize the opportunity if it opens to them? I think not, for the same reason that the native indians in Canada don't rule the country despite tax immunity and virtual criminal immunity. They want to be victims. They will lose their self identity if they don't see themselves as being persecuted by the white man and actually have to pull themselves up by their own bootstraps like the irish did or any other immigrant group did, Koreans if you want a really good modern example.

Post: #9

This lady is full of shit. Especially while standing in the middle of SoCal.

Talking about slavery etc. Fuck you. She's as much a slave as Barack Obama is a slave.

Mexicans and Mexican Americans have done waaay more to build and contribute to what Southern California has become than blacks can ever dream of doing. They started thousands of years ago.

Why is it when you go to skid row you see thousands and thousands of blacks begging and living in squalor, but hardly any other race. Yet, two blocks away you'll see Mexican and Central American men hustling for work at Home Depots, or selling anything oranges, watermelons or nuts or ice cream, or other treats to make $$$ for their families instead of begging.

Why was South Central one of the worst areas in the US just 20 years ago? And now the crime rate there is the lowest its ever been.

Oh yeah, 20 years ago is was mostly black. Now, it's becoming working class Hispanic.

That being said, there needs to be a huge change in immigration policy. Close down the borders, better monitor the number coming in.

Post: #10

(08-19-2015 12:56 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  America is unique in a sense because the people who run it now, genuinely have zero interest in the well being of it's own citizens. The US government's interests do not align in anyway shape or form with the people born here. They represent the interests of the corporations, plutocrats, and other vested financial interests they wantonly allow in here. Immigration has historically been very financially lucrative here.

this is what me and many who would be called "leftists" ( an unnacceptably vague term for serious policy and political discussion) have been saying, and it's where "Red Pill" and "Leftist" meet. If there were such a thing lolzlz.

The government is now of the corporations, by the corporations, and FOR the corporations.

The place where the duped masses can't ignore this any longer is in immigration, which I still don't understand well enough economically ( probably no one really does because any controlled experiments with immigration would be very complex and take decades) to see why our owners want it.

Is it as simple as more bodies to boss around? That seems too obvious, but if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, looks like a duck...

Post: #11

(08-19-2015 08:10 PM)HeyPete Wrote:  This lady is full of shit.

That being said, there needs to be a huge change in immigration policy. Close down the borders, better monitor the number coming in.

So you ( and I) agree with her on the bottom line. Maybe you can explain to her separately why she is full of shit after all three of us ( Libruls, Right Wing, and Blacks) force honest immigration policies on an unwilling Gubmint.

It might be kind of hard to get her to cooperate with you if you focus on the shit thing.

What really bugs me is the dishonesty, and ignoring the laws. I, and most Americans, could tolerate (maybe not like, but tolerate) a wide range of HONEST immigration policies. Maybe let the smart ones in, amnesty for some percentage but with a Wall and serious penalties for business who hire illegals. I DON'T think Americans want a lot of violence disrupting our lives in order to have a very harsh immigration policy.

IDK enough about it. You can't issue a pronouncement from your armchair without some study. As long as we're not at the extremes of leaving anchor babies orphaned and starving or, as we are now letting EVERYONE in, I'd be happy.

But we should have some kind of rules and follow them.

Post: #12

(08-19-2015 04:21 PM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  You've got to be kidding me. Please tell me about at least 3 of the racist polices of the past that are holding back ONLY black people today. The 'racist policies of the past' didn't seem to stop us from having a black president. It doesn't seem to have stopped Ben Carson, Colin Powell or Herman Cain either

If its racist policies of the past that keep black people poor, then why are there so many poor white people in appalachia? and when I say poor, I mean shoeless kids in a trailerpark with no family car poor. Shouldn't they be drinking mint juleps on the porch handed to them by black butlers because of the white privilege afforded to them by the 'racist policies of the past'

Was the CIA's crack cocaine experiment during the 1980s, the Great Society, the War on Drugs, or the piss poor representation of blacks in the media aimed at these folks? In the 1960s, when blacks were poorer than they are today and had to deal with Jim Crow laws, the out-of-wedlock birthrate was around 27% for African Americans. It is now over 71%. The government told inner-city blacks in order to qualify for welfare, no father must be present in the home and more kids=more money until welfare reform came in the 1990s. This is an excerpt from an article by former NFL player Garry Cobb, who ran for Congress in New Jersey

Quote: We started out poor,” Cobb said. “As a kid I could remember eating mayonnaise sandwiches, ketchup sandwiches and drinking sugar water, but we were able to go out and do better than our parents and that’s what my parents dreamed of.”

A major reason his family succeeded: his dad was around.

“All my brothers and sisters have gone to college,” Cobb said. “The reason we were able to have some success was our dad was there, there was some discipline in the home.”

While Cobb said he was a Democrat in his youth, he has since realized that many other black families did not have a father in the home because of the actions of Democrats.

He pointed to President Lyndon Johnson’s “Great Society” anti-poverty programs, saying that since single mothers were afforded more aid under the programs than intact couples, many black fathers were tacitly encouraged to leave their families.

Now I will say that there are a good amount of blacks that need to take responsibility for their own actions. Not all blacks should be pulling the victim card. But a lot of inner city blacks don't have the resources to "pull themselves up by the bootstraps" when their family and social environment is toxic.

Post: #13

(08-19-2015 08:10 PM)HeyPete Wrote:  Why was South Central one of the worst areas in the US just 20 years ago? And now the crime rate there is the lowest its ever been.

Here's why:

http://www.southcentralhistory.com/crack-epidemic.php

Quote:The Effect
The Crack Epidemic started in South Central, and spread throughout the US. It had a terrible effect. People became addicted. This led to families being broken up into pieces. Many people grew up without one or both parents because someone in their family was addicted. Later, this would lead to the end of the epidemic as fewer people started using cocaine because they saw the effects of it. Crime also increased dramatically during this time. Many low skilled workers lost their factory jobs in South Central because many factories closed during this time. They turned to drug dealing to support their family. The popular myth of a drug dealer is that they are young gang members. In fact, most gangs were not organized enough to control the drug trade. Most crack cocaine dealers were not distributing cocaine through a gang. Many were ordinary people trying to support their family. Many of these people fought over prices and territory though, and this led to a surge in the number of homicides. In addition, those that became addicted did whatever was necessary to supply their habit. This often resulted in robberies. This increase in crime is what led to many bars being put up on windows, and metal fences being built around apartments and houses.

Post: #14

(08-20-2015 06:55 AM)MdWanderer Wrote:  Now I will say that there are a good amount of blacks that need to take responsibility for their own actions. Not all blacks should be pulling the victim card. But a lot of inner city blacks don't have the resources to "pull themselves up by the bootstraps" when their family and social environment is toxic.

The problem is, much of this toxic environment, and I agree with you, the inner city is very toxic, is created by the Democrat party pushing the welfare state to buy voters. The Democrat party has pretty much decided its platform would be to break up families, make their lives miserable and dependent on the govt., give them some scraps from the table, and keep the main portion for themselves and their elite masters. And the people left paying for it are the good middle class people who just want a better life for their kids and are struggling badly.

I'm not a Republican, and I am not telling people to vote Republican. Look to a third party, look to see if there are any Democrats who really want to support the family unit and squash entitlements. But the toxic environment of the inner city is created by the people there voting for toxic leadership.

Post: #15

(08-20-2015 06:55 AM)MdWanderer Wrote:  

(08-19-2015 04:21 PM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  You've got to be kidding me. Please tell me about at least 3 of the racist polices of the past that are holding back ONLY black people today. The 'racist policies of the past' didn't seem to stop us from having a black president. It doesn't seem to have stopped Ben Carson, Colin Powell or Herman Cain either

If its racist policies of the past that keep black people poor, then why are there so many poor white people in appalachia? and when I say poor, I mean shoeless kids in a trailerpark with no family car poor. Shouldn't they be drinking mint juleps on the porch handed to them by black butlers because of the white privilege afforded to them by the 'racist policies of the past'

Was the CIA's crack cocaine experiment during the 1980s, the Great Society, the War on Drugs, or the piss poor representation of blacks in the media aimed at these folks? In the 1960s, when blacks were poorer than they are today and had to deal with Jim Crow laws, the out-of-wedlock birthrate was around 27% for African Americans. It is now over 71%. The government told inner-city blacks in order to qualify for welfare, no father must be present in the home and more kids=more money until welfare reform came in the 1990s. This is an excerpt from an article by former NFL player Garry Cobb, who ran for Congress in New Jersey

Thanks for replying with some actual examples, let me rebutt.

1. The crack cocaine experiment, I would include as part of the 'war on drugs' so it is part of that policy not its own unique one.
2. The great society/no father in the household to get the gravy train of social benefits....that requirement still exists today and its not based on race. Its not "white fathers in the home are ok, but not black ones" its a family destroying policy, not a race based one
3. The war on drugs...sweet lord...have you ever heard of Meth? aka hillbilly heroin aka the driving force of commerce in small town appalachia, those poor white people are synonymous with meth and the subsequent war on drugs.

3.5 "piss poor media representation" I don't really think thats a policy but I don't recall 50's rock and roll and soul icons being reprsented poorly? Also, in the 1980s at 'peak crack' every white person in the world was watching 'the cosby show' they were rich, well adjusted people and no one was smoking crack on that show.

So, I asked for 3 policies that targeted blacks only and you gave me 1/2 of one, which is the crack portion of the war on drugs. Everything else impacts poor white people as much as it does poor black ones. The policies impact POOR people, not BLACK people.

Post: #16

I thought at first glance that the thread was about people from other planets who did not get a Green Card.

Post: #17

(08-20-2015 07:22 AM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  

(08-20-2015 06:55 AM)MdWanderer Wrote:  

(08-19-2015 04:21 PM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  You've got to be kidding me. Please tell me about at least 3 of the racist polices of the past that are holding back ONLY black people today. The 'racist policies of the past' didn't seem to stop us from having a black president. It doesn't seem to have stopped Ben Carson, Colin Powell or Herman Cain either

If its racist policies of the past that keep black people poor, then why are there so many poor white people in appalachia? and when I say poor, I mean shoeless kids in a trailerpark with no family car poor. Shouldn't they be drinking mint juleps on the porch handed to them by black butlers because of the white privilege afforded to them by the 'racist policies of the past'

Was the CIA's crack cocaine experiment during the 1980s, the Great Society, the War on Drugs, or the piss poor representation of blacks in the media aimed at these folks? In the 1960s, when blacks were poorer than they are today and had to deal with Jim Crow laws, the out-of-wedlock birthrate was around 27% for African Americans. It is now over 71%. The government told inner-city blacks in order to qualify for welfare, no father must be present in the home and more kids=more money until welfare reform came in the 1990s. This is an excerpt from an article by former NFL player Garry Cobb, who ran for Congress in New Jersey

Thanks for replying with some actual examples, let me rebutt.

1. The crack cocaine experiment, I would include as part of the 'war on drugs' so it is part of that policy not its own unique one.
2. The great society/no father in the household to get the gravy train of social benefits....that requirement still exists today and its not based on race. Its not "white fathers in the home are ok, but not black ones" its a family destroying policy, not a race based one
3. The war on drugs...sweet lord...have you ever heard of Meth? aka hillbilly heroin aka the driving force of commerce in small town appalachia, those poor white people are synonymous with meth and the subsequent war on drugs.

3.5 "piss poor media representation" I don't really think thats a policy but I don't recall 50's rock and roll and soul icons being reprsented poorly? Also, in the 1980s at 'peak crack' every white person in the world was watching 'the cosby show' they were rich, well adjusted people and no one was smoking crack on that show.

So, I asked for 3 policies that targeted blacks only and you gave me 1/2 of one, which is the crack portion of the war on drugs. Everything else impacts poor white people as much as it does poor black ones. The policies impact POOR people, not BLACK people.

Good points but I find it kind of fishy that the government aims these programs at the poor and African Americans, who made up the majority of America's poor back in the 1960s, have been impacted by them the most. In the media and popular culture the black face is poor, from a single parent home, and ghetto/ignorant, while its not like that for whites. Many Americans don't even know about poor Appalachian whites because they don't have their own shows on MTV nor record labels having sing about how life is so good up in the mountains. We have not been fully integrated in American culture when we still have our separate culture, food, dialect, etc. I leave the U.S and people refer to me by my nationality, while here I'm a black man first and an American second.

And I'm not trying to complain about the U.S. For all of its faults with women and culture that we discuss here, it is still a good place to live. But socially and economically we still have some ways to go.

Post: #18

I don't get her point. Because she shares some genes with the ancient dead victims, she inherits their victimhood? Do those who share genes with the dead perpetrators inherit their evil? What if someone shares genes with both groups, can you be an evil victim?

Babies are born innocent. Therefore, none of that stuff is relevant to anything other than "make sure no one does it again".

Post: #19

(08-20-2015 11:34 AM)MdWanderer Wrote:  

(08-20-2015 07:22 AM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  

(08-20-2015 06:55 AM)MdWanderer Wrote:  [quote='Dr. Howard' pid='1093784' dateline='1440019286']
You've got to be kidding me. Please tell me about at least 3 of the racist polices of the past that are holding back ONLY black people today. The 'racist policies of the past' didn't seem to stop us from having a black president. It doesn't seem to have stopped Ben Carson, Colin Powell or Herman Cain either

If its racist policies of the past that keep black people poor, then why are there so many poor white people in appalachia? and when I say poor, I mean shoeless kids in a trailerpark with no family car poor. Shouldn't they be drinking mint juleps on the porch handed to them by black butlers because of the white privilege afforded to them by the 'racist policies of the past'

Good points but I find it kind of fishy that the government aims these programs at the poor and African Americans, who made up the majority of America's poor back in the 1960s, have been impacted by them the most. In the media and popular culture the black face is poor, from a single parent home, and ghetto/ignorant, while its not like that for whites. Many Americans don't even know about poor Appalachian whites because they don't have their own shows on MTV nor record labels having sing about how life is so good up in the mountains. We have not been fully integrated in American culture when we still have our separate culture, food, dialect, etc. I leave the U.S and people refer to me by my nationality, while here I'm a black man first and an American second.

And I'm not trying to complain about the U.S. For all of its faults with women and culture that we discuss here, it is still a good place to live. But socially and economically we still have some ways to go.

Quote:In the media and popular culture the black face is poor, from a single parent home, and ghetto/ignorant, while its not like that for whites.

I still don't get this comment. I'd say on youtube, liveleak and worldstar hip hop that is the 'face of black culture' but on normal television its that show 'black ish' a black president, a black secretary of state, a black charismatic republican candidate. I think popular culture does its best to show a positive black image, its bitches getting whipped with a metal rod at mcdonalds on youtube aka reality that undermines it.

Quote:Many Americans don't even know about poor Appalachian whites because they don't have their own shows on MTV nor record labels having sing about how life is so good up in the mountains.

Right, because the ENTIRE country music industry didn't originate in appalachia. (nb, country AND western music werent' and aren't the same thing.)

As for TV shows




See also Honey Boo Boo.

Quote:we still have our separate culture, food, dialect, etc. I leave the U.S and people refer to me by my nationality, while here I'm a black man first and an American second.

Separate weird Dancing...check




Separate weird Dialect that doesn't sound like the evening news...check




Separate food...this is a great one. When I go to a church picnic, with all white southerner's guess what is on the table? ribs, fried chicken, okra, watermelon, collared greens, etc. Yep..all these white folks eatin' "black food" because guess what its southern in origin much more than it is 'black'

Again, I'm not seeing how there is this unique 'black struggle' today. There is more than one color of poor in this country with a unique culture. Poor people of all kinds belong at the top of the victim pyramid, not just the black ones.