Post: #51

I think you got all the advice, which you need for making it a success. The forum was patient.

My final suggestion:
When she comes over, watch a movie with her on your bed. Then escalate gradually.

If she doesn't want to kiss you this time. Move on the fuck on.

She might play a game now, or she is just a freak.

In both cases, you don't want such a girl in your life. In the long-term, it is too much hassle.

Post: #52

When in doubt whip it out. lol

Your text game was good. Short and light.

It is hard to give you analysis because none of us are there and we cannot see her body language. Her travelling 45 minutes to meet you seems like a really good thing, so she isn't exactly using you. I think she is a virgin, did you ask her if she ever had a boyfriend?

Look at it like this, are you alright with her coming over all the time to hang? If not then make a move or move on to the next prospect.

A lot of girls will play this game of not looking interested and will give you lots of resistance. I had a girl recently tell me she wasn't in a sexual mood, I just grabbed her arm took her to the bedroom. I was shocked to see how wet she was when I got the underwear off.

Post: #53

(08-07-2015 09:28 AM)captndonk Wrote:  As I came back I saw that she called me, and she texted. She wants to come over and pick up her recharger cable (finale she figgered it out).

When she comes over do what Harrison Ford does. He'll you exactly what to do starting at 3:25





Edit: Better yet invite her to watch this movie with you then make you move as soon as Harrison makes his

Post: #54

Last chance here, man. If you can't pull it off this time you need to heed the advice of the guys here and start fishing in another stream.

Post: #55

(08-07-2015 12:45 PM)amusedmastery Wrote:  Last chance here, man. If you can't pull it off this time you need to heed the advice of the guys here and start fishing in another stream.

He's already working other chicks so he's doing well

Post: #56

She comes over in 45minutes again. I told her we watch a movie and she agreed. She is planning to catch the train back 2hours later. But she brings a toothbrush with her^^

Post: #57

(08-07-2015 01:12 PM)captndonk Wrote:  She comes over in 45minutes again. I told her we watch a movie and she agreed. She is planning to catch the train back 2hours later. But she brings a toothbrush with her^^

Good luck to you. And remember make her either bang you or get up and leave. Nothing in between...

Post: #58

(08-07-2015 01:12 PM)captndonk Wrote:  She comes over in 45minutes again. I told her we watch a movie and she agreed. She is planning to catch the train back 2hours later. But she brings a toothbrush with her^^

Make sure to have your condoms ready, massage oil, lube, bathroom clean, trash taken out, no other girls stuff at your place, light bulbs that dim to help the mood, scented candles for the mood, water bottles, mouthwash, soap, fresh clean sheets, and also this time set up your room where she can't sit on the chair example leave something on it that way she is forced to sit on your bed.

Best of luck to you tonight. Were all rooting for you to finally get laid.

Post: #59

Good luck. Remember, it's "put out or get out". I will never consider letting a girl who just denied me sex stay with me. Keep us posted.

Post: #60

See next post I screwed up

Post: #61

(08-07-2015 03:07 PM)AndThenDime Wrote:  

(08-07-2015 02:28 PM)Rawmeo Wrote:  Good luck. Remember, it's "put out or get out". I will never consider letting a girl who just denied me sex stay with me. Keep us posted.

Getting him into this mindset is crucial. If a girl denies me she's leaving within 5 minutes because I'm uncomfortable, and those 5 minutes include getting her things organized to go. This is only after it was impossible to break through LMR with all my tricks. I have actually had girls come back after doing this and bang me. It shows them you are not desperate at all. When acting passively, a weird tension is created that blocks sex.

And the comment about whipping it out is classic. I've been doing that a lot, it works like a charm. Although, I wouldn't recommend pulling that move without a certain level of experience.

Post: #62

Ok fail.

We talked a bit and then started to watch the movie lying in my bed. She crawled into the corner, I pulled her back so that she lied in my arms.
I fondled her legs a bit. She didn't do anything. Later I again tried to kiss her and she turned her head away. I grabbed it and turned it back and kissed her again.
This time, no resistance, but she again didn't do anything. I kissed her for a while and fondled her legs but again she didn't do anything. After some time (i have no idea how long) I stopped. I asked her wheter she feels comfortable. She answered that she is not sure.
After this we watched the movie to the end without any talking or cuddling. Next I put on some music and dozed on my bed (I am tired because of yesterday).
She again didn't do anything. No talking no touching, just nothing. She was just sitting my bed next to me.

Later she get up and told me that she is now leaving and that I should keep dozing.

Maybe my behavior was bad but I had really no idea what to do. I tried my best. I never escalated with so much effort before.

I expect to not see or hear from her again. That's said because she is really cute but based on her responding to my kissing I can imagine what the sex looks like.
Even if she texts me again and tells me she wants to come over, I obviously don't have the skills needed to open her up.

Post: #63

When you say she didn't do anything, are you saying she neither resisted nor escalated? If she's not pushing you away why did you not start taking her clothes off? It sounds like you were looking for her to reassure you verbally the entire way. Unless she was pushing you away or strongly saying 'NO' you need to proceed to get her naked, suck on her breasts, eat her pussy...ANYTHING!

If she's a virgin or inexperienced she's nervous, unsure what to do and was expecting you to lead the situation which you clearly did not....

Post: #64

She didn't do anything than breathing. She didn't move in any way. It was like kissing a doll.

Post: #65

(08-07-2015 04:59 PM)captndonk Wrote:  Ok fail.

We talked a bit and then started to watch the movie lying in my bed. She crawled into the corner, I pulled her back so that she lied in my arms.
I fondled her legs a bit. She didn't do anything. Later I again tried to kiss her and she turned her head away. I grabbed it and turned it back and kissed her again.
This time, no resistance, but she again didn't do anything. I kissed her for a while and fondled her legs but again she didn't do anything. After some time (i have no idea how long) I stopped. I asked her wheter she feels comfortable. She answered that she is not sure.
After this we watched the movie to the end without any talking or cuddling. Next I put on some music and dozed on my bed (I am tired because of yesterday).
She again didn't do anything. No talking no touching, just nothing. She was just sitting my bed next to me.

Later she get up and told me that she is now leaving and that I should keep dozing.

Maybe my behavior was bad but I had really no idea what to do. I tried my best. I never escalated with so much effort before.

I expect to not see or hear from her again. That's said because she is really cute but based on her responding to my kissing I can imagine what the sex looks like.
Even if she texts me again and tells me she wants to come over, I obviously don't have the skills needed to open her up.

Actually I think you can still bang her if you want...it's just a bit longer game and you do have to take the lead. So she's definitely not a slut. It seems to me you're most likely dealing a virgin or very repressed personality. If you do get her opened up you might actually be able turn her into a good fuck or LTR if you want...but you do have to lead If you can crack it you will own her

It sounds like she she likes you...Like others have said you should have plowed on. No means no and yes means yes,,,but with girls silence means yes too. She wants to fuck (it's what humans are meant to do...right?) but she does'nt know how or is afraid to express that desire.

I've had girls like this before and you just have to go caveman on them.

I'd keep her as a project. She comes over to your house so there's no effort or expense right? (Meanwhile your out gaming other chicks, getting numbers, trying to pull tail home anyway). Next time just keep plowing ahead until she tells you stop r balls deep in one of her holes.

Post: #66

(08-07-2015 06:35 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  Actually I think you can still bang her if you want...it's just a bit longer game and you do have to take the lead. So she's definitely not a slut. It seems to me you're most likely dealing a virgin or very repressed personality. If you do get her opened up you might actually be able turn her into a good fuck or LTR if you want...but you do have to lead If you can crack it you will own her

I'd keep her as a project. She comes over to your house so there's no effort or expense right? (Meanwhile your out gaming other chicks, getting numbers, trying to pull tail home anyway). Next time just keep plowing ahead until she tells you stop r balls deep in one of her holes.

That's exactly what I have advocated in my last post.

Post: #67

I agree what has been said but I think a lot of people are missing the basics.

She needs reassurance, talk to her. Tell her she smells nice, tell her you think she is pretty (assuming you think she is).

You didn't fuck up, you made a move. Which is a lot more than you did before.

Lets see when she texts you. I would wait until then and in the meantime game other girls.

Maybe its me but this shit turns me on.

Post: #68

(08-07-2015 11:12 PM)ksbms Wrote:  That's exactly what I have advocated in my last post.

Uh no...not exactly

(08-06-2015 07:51 AM)ksbms Wrote:  Perhaps, If you are really keen to keep her around as it is you could employ a contrarian modus operandi to what has been suggested above - do not escalate at all, just hang out with her as long as you accept the sex might never happen and the time you spend with her for the sake of it is worth it.

Not even close. I would never suggest the the OP be content with "just hanging out" with a girl he's attracted to without attempting to escalate.

What I'm suggesting is that he might actually be closer to banging this chick than he realizes. And since she's delivering herself to his door without ANY effort, time or expense whatsoever then there's no reason to throw out what might be a perfectly good bang...BUT ABC Always Be Closing Because pussy is for closers

Post: #69

Ok, here we go:

1:30 AM (I was already asleep)

She: Sorry
She: I have to tell you something

6:45 AM
I: ?
She: I should have told you earlier. But I am probably the most unexperienced 19years old human on earth.
As you kissed my mouth I was totally overstrained and didn't want to do anything stupid. So I did nothing, which seems to be the most stupid solution.

I didn't answer so far. But she can see I read it. Now what?

Post: #70

"*inexperienced, not unexperienced. Don't worry, I'm a level ten certified English teacher"

Post: #71

Depends who she is though. If she is telling the truth, it's about rapport. Build that bond. Ask her questions. Sell yourself. Create a strong persona. If I was you, I would have pulled on top of me and given her the control. In my experience, those kinds of girls love the dominance and will start to dry hump. That is when you pull her head in and start making out and things escalate from there.

It sounds like being dominant is your success at winning. Build that rapport and the rest should be easy for you. Take control and see where things lead.

Post: #72

Now, I think I should text something back. I think of:

Being inexperienced is no problem.

Post: #73

So this is great!!!!!!!!!

When she told you to sleep, I think she was a little embarrassed by the situation.

Now you got your answer, which you got because you went for the kiss.

Reply and re-assure her everything is fine. Keep it simple, don't over text or over think it.

She is inexperienced which means she is a virgin.

Post: #74

(08-08-2015 12:10 AM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

(08-07-2015 11:12 PM)ksbms Wrote:  That's exactly what I have advocated in my last post.

Uh no...not exactly

(08-06-2015 07:51 AM)ksbms Wrote:  Perhaps, If you are really keen to keep her around as it is you could employ a contrarian modus operandi to what has been suggested above - do not escalate at all, just hang out with her as long as you accept the sex might never happen and the time you spend with her for the sake of it is worth it.

Not even close. I would never suggest the the OP be content with "just hanging out" with a girl he's attracted to without attempting to escalate.

What I'm suggesting is that he might actually be closer to banging this chick than he realizes. And since she's delivering herself to his door without ANY effort, time or expense whatsoever then there's no reason to throw out what might be a perfectly good bang...BUT ABC Always Be Closing Because pussy is for closers

Fine, my misinterpretation. However, to my defense, this was only as long as the OP would accept nothing would have happened as a result. By the way, the ABC from Mamet's Glengarry Glen Ross unforgettable.

Post: #75

(08-08-2015 03:43 AM)captndonk Wrote:  Now, I think I should text something back. I think of:

Being inexperienced is no problem.

Ok good

1. She likes and is attracted to you
2. SHE is afraid SHE is going to do something stupid and blow it with you..That is why she's explaining herself to you Great
3. She sees her inexperience as a weakness...AWESOME

She's a 19 yo virgin who feels weird and insecure because so. She WANTS someone to fuck and teach her....why not you? This is a gift

This is pretty straight forward. Invite her back to your place again. This time she knows what is going to happen, is expecting it and wants it to. Only this time when you start kissing her just tell her what to do She will do it. She's telling you so.

Did you watch the scene with Harrison Ford? Do you see how he TELLS her to TELL him that she wants him to fuck her?

Tell her something like "Relax, it's ok. I'm going to go slow and I will tell you exactly what to do" She will relax because now you're in control. Then just plow forward

This is simple. Don't over think it. All you have to do is what billions of men do with women every day.