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That article is a grand slam! A must read! I love it.

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(08-04-2015 09:46 AM)zombiejimmorrison Wrote:  It's such faux outrage, its not about the dentist, they're angry with their lives...

I'm angry as all fuck about this, please don't lecture me as to how it's "faux outrage" and I'm "angry with my life." Total bullshit.,
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(08-04-2015 09:46 AM)zombiejimmorrison Wrote:  It's such faux outrage, its not about the dentist, they're angry with their lives...

I'm angry as all fuck about this, please don't lecture me as to how it's "faux outrage" and I'm "angry with my life." Total bullshit.,

Find more important things to get angry about.

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(08-04-2015 11:20 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  Some woman with a face not even Botox could cure is using a Giraffe as some sort of trophy? How impressive!

Bitch please. My dad shot a mink going full run with a pellet gun at 20 feet and he isn't even a hunter. Attention whores don't even put in any effort whatsoever these days.

Not sure what I'd rather face, a charging giraffe or a charging mink. They're vicious little fuckers, I've shot a few and you learn to knock em down before they know you're there.

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Killing a male Lion isn't going to endanger the species. Even if Cecil was a pride patriarch some other male will step up to the alpha role and take his place.

And, Lions are not vegetarians. They live by ripping their prey to pieces in an often horrific death ( unless a quick bite to the neck kills them first). And a male Lion will usually end his life in a violent manner, either killed by another male Lion or alone, ripped to bits by Hyenas.

A gunshot wound to the head seems a quick and painless end compared to the usual demise of a male Lion.

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(08-05-2015 03:08 PM)TheWastelander Wrote:  I was with him until the last bit, which just sounds like a whiny appeal for more coverage and money.

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(08-04-2015 09:46 AM)zombiejimmorrison Wrote:  It's such faux outrage, its not about the dentist, they're angry with their lives...

I'm angry as all fuck about this, please don't lecture me as to how it's "faux outrage" and I'm "angry with my life." Total bullshit.,

Find more important things to get angry about.

People are capable of being angry at more than more issue at any given time. Your weak-assed straw-man argument ("these people need to direct their anger at something more important, as you "can only be angry one issue at a time") is fucking lame.
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I read yesterday that the dentist self-identified as a crocodile, so who are we to judge?





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(08-06-2015 10:17 AM)StudebacherHoch Wrote:  
(08-05-2015 06:57 PM)TheWastelander Wrote:  
(08-05-2015 04:46 PM)StudebacherHoch Wrote:  
(08-04-2015 09:46 AM)zombiejimmorrison Wrote:  It's such faux outrage, its not about the dentist, they're angry with their lives...

I'm angry as all fuck about this, please don't lecture me as to how it's "faux outrage" and I'm "angry with my life." Total bullshit.,

Find more important things to get angry about.

People are capable of being angry at more than more issue at any given time. Your weak-assed straw-man argument ("these people need to direct their anger at something more important, as you "can only be angry one issue at a time") is fucking lame.

Exactly. You're going to be extremely offended and very concerned for a week or two then you'll have forgotten about it by the end of the month....and you will have changed the world, the exact same way that Coexist bumper stickers ended religious violence.
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(08-06-2015 04:02 PM)Easy_C Wrote:  
(08-06-2015 10:17 AM)StudebacherHoch Wrote:  
(08-05-2015 06:57 PM)TheWastelander Wrote:  
(08-05-2015 04:46 PM)StudebacherHoch Wrote:  
(08-04-2015 09:46 AM)zombiejimmorrison Wrote:  It's such faux outrage, its not about the dentist, they're angry with their lives...

I'm angry as all fuck about this, please don't lecture me as to how it's "faux outrage" and I'm "angry with my life." Total bullshit.,

Find more important things to get angry about.

People are capable of being angry at more than more issue at any given time. Your weak-assed straw-man argument ("these people need to direct their anger at something more important, as you "can only be angry one issue at a time") is fucking lame.

Exactly. You're going to be extremely offended and very concerned for a week or two then you'll have forgotten about it by the end of the month....and you will have changed the world, the exact same way that Coexist bumper stickers ended religious violence.

Buddy, when you get to be sixty - THEN you can lecture me about how "I'll feel about this in a month". I was standing up for issues like this before you were even a gleam in your daddy's eye - so please, don't even fucking GO there.
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(08-06-2015 04:37 PM)StudebacherHoch Wrote:  
(08-06-2015 04:02 PM)Easy_C Wrote:  
(08-06-2015 10:17 AM)StudebacherHoch Wrote:  
(08-05-2015 06:57 PM)TheWastelander Wrote:  
(08-05-2015 04:46 PM)StudebacherHoch Wrote:  I'm angry as all fuck about this, please don't lecture me as to how it's "faux outrage" and I'm "angry with my life." Total bullshit.,

Find more important things to get angry about.

People are capable of being angry at more than more issue at any given time. Your weak-assed straw-man argument ("these people need to direct their anger at something more important, as you "can only be angry one issue at a time") is fucking lame.

Exactly. You're going to be extremely offended and very concerned for a week or two then you'll have forgotten about it by the end of the month....and you will have changed the world, the exact same way that Coexist bumper stickers ended religious violence.

Buddy, when you get to be sixty - THEN you can lecture me about how "I'll feel about this in a month". I was standing up for issues like this before you were even a gleam in your daddy's eye - so please, don't even fucking GO there.

I'm sorry that lion got kilt - I was sad to hear about it myself. But don't even fucking GO to the faux-shaming bullshit on this forum, kind sir. You cannot threaten anyone here on anything...as if your years of 'caring about this' means a hill of beans in the grand scheme of things. You got a logical argument, then put it on the table and discussion can occur. But NO ONE cares about your Sierra-Club butthurt. Bring facts - not feewlings.

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(08-06-2015 04:37 PM)StudebacherHoch Wrote:  Buddy, when you get to be sixty - THEN you can lecture me about how "I'll feel about this in a month". I was standing up for issues like this before you were even a gleam in your daddy's eye - so please, don't even fucking GO there.

Standing up for what, exactly? If it's the protection of endangered species, why are you angry about the trophy hunting of lions, which through perverse financial incentives has caused a population boom in recent years? I'd have thought islandisation of natural habitats by logging routes is the kind of thing you should be getting angry about.

And if it's just that people killing animals leaves a bad taste in your mouth, then I hope you don't like bacon, because you won't believe where it actually comes from.

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(08-06-2015 04:50 PM)LeeEnfield303 Wrote:  
(08-06-2015 04:37 PM)StudebacherHoch Wrote:  
(08-06-2015 04:02 PM)Easy_C Wrote:  
(08-06-2015 10:17 AM)StudebacherHoch Wrote:  
(08-05-2015 06:57 PM)TheWastelander Wrote:  Find more important things to get angry about.

People are capable of being angry at more than more issue at any given time. Your weak-assed straw-man argument ("these people need to direct their anger at something more important, as you "can only be angry one issue at a time") is fucking lame.

Exactly. You're going to be extremely offended and very concerned for a week or two then you'll have forgotten about it by the end of the month....and you will have changed the world, the exact same way that Coexist bumper stickers ended religious violence.

Buddy, when you get to be sixty - THEN you can lecture me about how "I'll feel about this in a month". I was standing up for issues like this before you were even a gleam in your daddy's eye - so please, don't even fucking GO there.

I'm sorry that lion got kilt - I was sad to hear about it myself. But don't even fucking GO to the faux-shaming bullshit on this forum, kind sir. You cannot threaten anyone here on anything...as if your years of 'caring about this' means a hill of beans in the grand scheme of things. You got a logical argument, then put it on the table and discussion can occur. But NO ONE cares about your Sierra-Club butthurt. Bring facts - not feewlings.

Can you be any more hypocritical? This entire ISSUE is about "opinions" not facts - I stated my OPINION, and was taken to task for it in a snarky manner. I "faux-shamed" no one.
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(08-06-2015 04:51 PM)Ocelot Wrote:  
(08-06-2015 04:37 PM)StudebacherHoch Wrote:  Buddy, when you get to be sixty - THEN you can lecture me about how "I'll feel about this in a month". I was standing up for issues like this before you were even a gleam in your daddy's eye - so please, don't even fucking GO there.

Standing up for what, exactly?

- Standing up against was in hindsight one of the WORST mistakes we've made defensively - the Viet Nam War. That was probably before your time.

- Standing up against the oil companies in the early '70s who were complete knuckleheads, causing massive oil spills of the coast of California. Remember the Spill of '69? Oh yeah, that was before your time...

As for your ass-umption that I'm against eating meat or hunting - utterly lame. Did you really just go there? I enjoy a steak just the the next guy, and I have NO problem with people hunting to keep numbers down and to eat.

No - my problem is jerk-offs who don't want to play by the rules, get fucking BUSTED for doing so, and then still think they are so special that they do it again. You want to shoot a fucking lion? Then do it by the books...don't be a pussy and draw a lion out of preserve, then try to cover your tracks and/or plead ignorance.

Palmer is an asshole, and his actions are indefensible. If he had any balls at all, he wouldn't be in hiding - he'd be on the next plane to Zimbabwe to clear his name.
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(08-06-2015 04:57 PM)StudebacherHoch Wrote:  
(08-06-2015 04:50 PM)LeeEnfield303 Wrote:  
(08-06-2015 04:37 PM)StudebacherHoch Wrote:  
(08-06-2015 04:02 PM)Easy_C Wrote:  
(08-06-2015 10:17 AM)StudebacherHoch Wrote:  People are capable of being angry at more than more issue at any given time. Your weak-assed straw-man argument ("these people need to direct their anger at something more important, as you "can only be angry one issue at a time") is fucking lame.

Exactly. You're going to be extremely offended and very concerned for a week or two then you'll have forgotten about it by the end of the month....and you will have changed the world, the exact same way that Coexist bumper stickers ended religious violence.

Buddy, when you get to be sixty - THEN you can lecture me about how "I'll feel about this in a month". I was standing up for issues like this before you were even a gleam in your daddy's eye - so please, don't even fucking GO there.

I'm sorry that lion got kilt - I was sad to hear about it myself. But don't even fucking GO to the faux-shaming bullshit on this forum, kind sir. You cannot threaten anyone here on anything...as if your years of 'caring about this' means a hill of beans in the grand scheme of things. You got a logical argument, then put it on the table and discussion can occur. But NO ONE cares about your Sierra-Club butthurt. Bring facts - not feewlings.

Can you be any more hypocritical? This entire ISSUE is about "opinions" not facts - I stated my OPINION, and was taken to task for it in a snarky manner. I "faux-shamed" no one.

Bullshit. "When you get to sixty...." The "I was crying about this issue before you were a shitstain in your dad's pants?" "I was against the Viet Nam war before yall knew who Walter Cronkite was?" You think that helps your cause?

Not impressed. None of that is an argument. Being older than most here isn't an argument. You know what the requirement is to "get to sixty?" HINT: Not dying before fifty-nine.

And, to your later post.....what evidence do you have that this dentist is lying when he says he didn't know it was illegal?

Please share. Prosecutors the world over would love to get this information.

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(08-06-2015 05:49 PM)LeeEnfield303 Wrote:  And, to your later post.....what evidence do you have that this dentist is lying when he says he didn't know it was illegal?

What evidence do you have that he didn't - NEITHER OF US DO. I'm stating my opinion, just like you stated your opinion. Period.

My opinion is based upon his prior actions - that is - his fucking felony record for doing the same sort of bullshit here in the US. Yes, Lee - he's a fucking FELON. But noooooo...how could he possibly do the same thing twice? Do you realize how stupid that sounds?

"Palmer was charged with knowingly making false statement to an agent of the Department of the Interior, U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, having "falsely stated that he thought the bear had been killed legally" during interviews with officials the next month."

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/cecil-...ny-n400226

Keep defending this asshole until your face turns blue - I've said my peace, this guy is disgusting and I hope he is extradited.
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(08-06-2015 05:49 PM)LeeEnfield303 Wrote:  And, to your later post.....what evidence do you have that this dentist is lying when he says he didn't know it was illegal?

What evidence do you have that he didn't - NEITHER OF US DO. I'm stating my opinion, just like you stated your opinion. Period.

My opinion is based upon his prior actions - that is - his fucking felony record for doing the same sort of bullshit here in the US. Yes, Lee - he's a fucking FELON. But noooooo...how could he possibly do the same thing twice? Do you realize how stupid that sounds?

"Palmer was charged with knowingly making false statement to an agent of the Department of the Interior, U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, having "falsely stated that he thought the bear had been killed legally" during interviews with officials the next month."

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/cecil-...ny-n400226

Keep defending this asshole until your face turns blue - I've said my peace, this guy is disgusting and I hope he is extradited.

So you advocate US citizens being extradited to corrupt, third world countries?

You seem rather excitable.

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(08-06-2015 06:42 PM)kaotic Wrote:  Jesus get ahold of your emotions

You're entirely right - I'm getting too worked up over it. I was ready to give the guy the benefit of the doubt until the past conviction came to light. This is someone who apparently thinks rules don't apply to himself - I just don't dig it.
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(08-06-2015 05:49 PM)LeeEnfield303 Wrote:  And, to your later post.....what evidence do you have that this dentist is lying when he says he didn't know it was illegal?

What evidence do you have that he didn't - NEITHER OF US DO. I'm stating my opinion, just like you stated your opinion. Period.

My opinion is based upon his prior actions - that is - his fucking felony record for doing the same sort of bullshit here in the US. Yes, Lee - he's a fucking FELON. But noooooo...how could he possibly do the same thing twice? Do you realize how stupid that sounds?

"Palmer was charged with knowingly making false statement to an agent of the Department of the Interior, U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, having "falsely stated that he thought the bear had been killed legally" during interviews with officials the next month."

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/cecil-...ny-n400226

Keep defending this asshole until your face turns blue - I've said my peace, this guy is disgusting and I hope he is extradited.

He had a bear permit, and killed one a little outside the area with a large group of guys? Welcome to hunting. It's a lot better than spot lighting deer from the highway.

I did a job with an old family friend a couple days ago who has hunted with Palmer (small world), and said Palmer is a fairly straight arrow but just has more money than sense, which translates to street smarts for the youngins.

Dude just kind of goes along with the flow, and pumps a lot of money into local economies, which I'm guessing is a lot more than damn near everyone that hates the guy.

That, and low level 'contributions' are normal in the third world, where the laws don't matter, you just know you have to grease the important people in the chain.
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(08-06-2015 06:48 PM)StudebacherHoch Wrote:  
(08-06-2015 06:42 PM)kaotic Wrote:  Jesus get ahold of your emotions

You're entirely right - I'm getting too worked up over it. I was ready to give the guy the benefit of the doubt until the past conviction came to light. This is someone who apparently thinks rules don't apply to himself - I just don't dig it.


I like how you say that my "is there ANY evidence here?" = "defending an asshole." *snicker* Rule of law...you should look into it.

Didjuh know...that being guilty of a previous crime DOESN'T automatically mean he's guilty of this one? True shit. No lie. Saw it on CSI:Miami one night.

This chode could very well be guilty as homemade sin....but I'm a crazy American...I just want to see some actual evidence before he's hung from the nearest tree. Too much to ask?

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(08-06-2015 07:50 PM)LeeEnfield303 Wrote:  This chode could very well be guilty as homemade sin....but I'm a crazy American...I just want to see some actual evidence before he's hung from the nearest tree. Too much to ask?

I agree with you entirely, Lee - and I also agree that he'd never have a fair day in court in Zimbabwe. Guess we'll just have to wait & see how it plays out, and I apologize (to all) if it seems like I'm a bit thorny on this issue. Anyone who has read my posts know that I'm not "the arguing type" - this just rubs me the wrong way on multiple levels. Smile
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